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Community Projects => Contests => Topic started by: Alex on April 19, 2004, 11:43:43 AM

Title: Community contest: the draft
Post by: Alex on April 19, 2004, 11:43:43 AM

I was thinking something... And here you can see the draft!
http://charas-project.net/contest_community.php

What do you think?
The idea is simple (and probably with at least 7-8 months as deadline) and i think it would be very funny, to give communities a way to show what they can REALLY do.
Around the net, i'm so tired to see just "talking communities": so much blahblah but at the end, nothing.
We're passionate game developers? Well, let's make a game!
We need a target to do this? Well, the target is this contest!

We can use our "Charas power": we're international and known everywhere, so i think we can really propose something like this.

Any comment/idea is appreciated, i'd really like to turn this into reality!

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Post by: moiledzep on April 19, 2004, 11:49:51 AM

And we'll represent Charas-Project among some other communities?

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Post by: Alex on April 19, 2004, 11:55:30 AM

Of course, Charas will be one!
I really hope we can find users who'd like to "fight for Charas's honor", no? ;)

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Post by: SMB on April 19, 2004, 12:45:44 PM

What about the differents languages?
There're Italian communities, French ones, German etc...
Maybe German Com. program in English, more difficult for Italians I think, or we must have international judges who can speak all languages?

Beautiful idea, if realiable... (J)

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Post by: moiledzep on April 19, 2004, 01:07:50 PM

I'm ready to defend Charas from the beginning to the end, I'm here and I'll defend our honor!!!

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Post by: Alex on April 19, 2004, 01:09:24 PM

Uhm, i guess we should add an "only english" rule....
I know that for someone this may be a limit, but on the other hand the games must be understandable by everyone.

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Post by: White Dwarf on April 19, 2004, 02:59:03 PM

if only english i'll do it

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Post by: Alex on April 19, 2004, 03:07:04 PM

That's cool!
Anyhow, before looking for who'll made the Charas game, we should define well the rules.
What do you think of the draft?
We need to finish it before doing anything else.

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Post by: moiledzep on April 19, 2004, 05:31:35 PM

I think this is a great idea, a battle between communities by game contest, Great!!!

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Post by: Alex on April 19, 2004, 05:50:21 PM

I understand this is a great idea.
BUT NOW I NEED HELP ON COMPILING ITS RULES!

Thanks! ;)

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on April 20, 2004, 12:34:50 AM

I just noticed something about the rules... it says every resource must be original, right? That could be a MAJOR problem for music, sound effects, and chipsets. Maybe it would be a good idea to change that rule a bit for those resources? :-/

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Post by: Alex on April 20, 2004, 12:49:06 AM

That's true, i thought about this.
But, on the other hand, i'm looking at a target: games really built from scratch by partecipants.
I don't know the status of users in other communities, but have i really to imagine they have not one single user able to do some midis? Or some chipsets?

I know it's hard, but i'd like to see real works, this time. And this means creations too.

I agree that sound effects could be "imported", but music and chipsets are definitively IMPORTANT things in a game. How may i allow imports of them in order to judge a complete game, which is the final target?

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Post by: SMB on April 20, 2004, 06:10:17 AM

Alex says true, every community have many people members and everyone is able to do something, so graphics like musicians, sound effects maybe imported, midi's must be originals!
Let's do something special with this battle, right? :jumpin:

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Post by: Darkfox on April 20, 2004, 07:54:43 AM

Oi, well... Since I'm a mere Spriter in Training I'm going to be pretty useless in the graphics department. Having no idea how to work with midis I'm going to be useless in the music area...

sound effects... the best I've ever done was celeberity impersonations... so that would be useless as well... darnit... I guess I better think of somthing...

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Post by: X-F3R on April 20, 2004, 08:18:28 AM

things that should be discussed first. if not, there could be a shortage of hands/recruitment.

Storyline
Victorian style? Modern Style? Futuristic Style? A mix of Victorian and Futuristic? (FF)
Plot
Character(s)
Character Design
Races
Music Style
Battle Style
Names of almost everything. items, skills, towns.. etc

if we can't use rm2k3 then that means a CBS for rm2k cuz that's what the majority of what charas' members use. it could be really really good. i mean really good stuff. lookie.. CBS = anything could be in it. let's try something else and animate the monsters this time. this was something i wanted to do but i was too lazy.. lol.. meaning that monsters would also have charsets if a CBS was made.

i could do original charsets.. but i can't right now.. i promised myself that i'd do all my stuff first before doing stuff for others.

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Post by: moiledzep on April 20, 2004, 09:11:45 AM

Hey Alex, maybe we could work by team of 2 or 3 persons to make a game, no?

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Post by: X-F3R on April 20, 2004, 09:45:57 AM

2-3 people making an entire game from scratch (with RM2K) would be really hard.

so let's do some organizing here.. as Darkfox said, departments. there should be a few set up.

Music Department (i'm sure Moiledzep would be in it. and also Alex! he makes good midis)

then there's the Graphics Department. this should be the biggest one cuz if you plan on making a game/team then you should know that graphics are very important.
-Charsets
-Chipsets
-Battle Animation
-System(s)
-Monsters
-Panorama
-Title

then a Codings Department. there are lots here.
CBS
Map Codings
etc

then the daddy of all this is the Head Department
-Storylines
-Plots
-Character Designs
-Map Designers
-and all the stuff i mentioned in my first post here

so there should be at least 20 people in a game making team or whatever. of course, 8 months is a long period of time so maybe 3 people are ok.. but there should be at least 2-3 months time of re-arranging.. etc etc.. i'm pretty useless, i guess.. so far i've made NOTHING yet.. wehehe.. but i know what it takes to make stuff.

8 months starting May or now?

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Post by: moiledzep on April 20, 2004, 10:17:06 AM

You mean that teams of 20 people will be better? I'm ok, but that's a lot...

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Post by: X-F3R on April 20, 2004, 11:41:07 AM

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You mean that teams of 20 people will be better? I'm ok, but that's a lot...

ermm.. what do you mean by teams? departments?

it all begins with the Head Department. The Head Department decides the resources first and the basic outline of the story. Then after the decision making by the Head Department is finalized and completed, that's where all the other departments make their stuff. The Head Department starts writing the story and decides what type of side quests and add ons to make.

Then the Graphics department would show samples to the Head Department. maybe for each charset, 3 of the same kind. the head department would choose one of the 3 to be completed. so maybe by the 3rd month, all of the sample choosing would be finished and start finishing them.

Then in the start of the 5th month, every resource should be finished. then 2 weeks would be the finalization of everything. 2 1/2 weeks of beta testing and the last month for ammendments.

There are many ways to increase efficiency (did i say that right?). Like.. when the completment of resources are starting, make the ones at the beginning of the game first. then progressing to the end of the game. that way stuff would be faster cuz map designers could make the maps with civilians in it first, then move on as new resources are handed in.

Not only that. even within departments, there should be assigned groups.

Charsets-
Heros
Villains
Civilians
Monsters
Objects

Chipsets-
Interior
Exterior
World Map
Dungeons
Wilderness

basically, the more people, the better.. that's why i said at least 20 people.. lol.. if less, then it would take longer for a well planned game. actually it all depends on how much there is in the game :D

I could work for the Storyline Group since i'm pretty useless in making graphics.. but i only do Midieval-Style-Epic Storylines.. Suikoden-ish types of games.. wehehe

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oh yeah.. the voting system, i think it would be better if communities' can't vote for the games they made. Like the one charas is gonna make, we can't vote for it. it would be more fair that way.

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Post by: White Dwarf on April 20, 2004, 03:11:11 PM

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oh yeah.. the voting system, i think it would be better if communities' can vote for the games they made. Like the one charas is gonna make, we can't vote for it. it would be more fair that way.

How? if all the outher communities vote for themselves and we vote for someone else, charas would have 0 everbody else would have 1 and one (the winner) would have 2 (unless everbody was told the trouth)

and would we be able to use the charas generater or not
and if I did it I would be working on the storyline and my brouther could work on the maps (as he is great at doing maps,but he is not a member) (this is Nick the unblooded Red)

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Post by: X-F3R on April 20, 2004, 03:55:33 PM

chey! that's not what I meant! LOL!!! I HAVE A TYPO!!! BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG *inhales* BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG TYPO!!!

EG: Community A, Community B, Community C

A could vote for B and C
B could vote for A and C
C could vote for A and B

get it? i'm not saying the charas community is the only one who can't vote for the game they made! that's what i meant to say! hehe sorry! i was in a hurry when i wrote that!

 

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oh yeah.. the voting system, i think it would be better if communities' can't vote for the games they made. Like the one charas is gonna make, we can't vote for it. it would be more fair that way.

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Post by: Alex on April 21, 2004, 11:06:25 AM

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Originally posted by X-F3R

8 months starting May or now?

8 months starting when we'll finish the rules and when we'll find out who will partecipate.

Anyhow, i agree with X-F3R: a large "team" is surely better because we should present a work in name of the whole Charas community.
So, more peoples means also more "Charas" inside.
If the group is well coordinated and who will be into it will work, then we will really create something good in every sense.
This is very diffucult with just 2-3 members.

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Post by: X-F3R on April 21, 2004, 12:33:47 PM

8 months right after the rules draft is confirmed eh? I say give it 1 - 2 months before the starting of the contest.

If Charas was to propose a contest while we already have the staff, then it wouldn't be fair now, would it? :D so after the draft is confirmed, Charas proposes it to a few other communitie1s and a month later, Charas will check if any of them are interested. If there are 2 or more (competing 1 on 1 is boring.. lol..) then it's a game. but by the time they have confirmed their entrance to the competition, they should have a complete team already. So for us, Charas, who knows their active members well, we should have a team ready 2 weeks before the deadline of the "Team Check". Cuz it'll be really embarassing if we proposed it and haven't a team.. lol..

Also, if you want a team then you'll need a team who has A LOT of free time. A friend of mine said a game with 20 hours worth of gameplay could be made within 2 weeks, using made resources if that person really puts all his effort on it. And a person who would make all the resources for his game made from scratch would take 2 months using RM2K. again, using all his/her effort in making the game.

Why 2 months? at first i didn't believe him but then i did cuz i made 3 individual charsets (One person only) in one day. And, a skilled spriter could make an individual charset in less than 1 hour. A determined skilled spriter could make at least 16 individual charsets (2 complete sets) in one day.

So here's the List of departments that will be needed in a team-

Head/Development Department
-Storyline/Plot
-Character/Map Design
-Music/Battle Style
-Name Decision

Graphics Department
-Battle Animations (Animating)
-Charsets
-Chipsets
-System(s)
-Monsters
-Title
-Panorama
-Backdrop (Not really needed cuz I guess it's better if Chipsets were used to make Backdrops)

Codings Department
-CBS
-CMS
-Common/Map Events

Music Department
-title says it all

Beta testing Department

Basically, the Head/Development Department is just one group cuz that group will have to debate, agree and disagree on the main frame of the game. and usually, it's the story writer's job to check all resources and provide sketches to graphic makers. In this game development, words won't be enough.

i also guess "choosing" would be more better than "Volunteering". Volunteering wouldn't hurt tho.. lol.. each Volunteers should either be recognized if he is good in that field or provide 2 samples of what he/she could do.

where's TheBrave? :D i think he'll have a major role in the Game Development. Ghost Clown is also a pretty good spriter.  Battle Animations could be a problem tho.. lol.. we've got a few good MIDI composers.. me? oh i'm just here to talk.. lol..

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 12:56:55 PM

In fact, there will be only one team per community?

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Post by: X-F3R on April 21, 2004, 01:29:19 PM

Depends.. if they got alot of talented members then they could also join. we have a shortage of hands so i guess it'd be best if we stay as one group.

I could help out in story writing and plot. since that's all i'm probably good at. Also Character Design.. if it's Midieval tho.. lol.. maybe futuristic too.. modern stuff is where i sux0rz to the fullest.

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Post by: Psycho_Chick on April 21, 2004, 01:57:17 PM

ok I guess I would be useless.  I can do a few edits, but since they are not allowed then I am nothing important.  I can't make midis.  The only thing I could maybe do is help with a story line. :|

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Post by: X-F3R on April 21, 2004, 02:04:24 PM

*looks at name*

Starving Artist! Panoramas! Character Design!

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 02:16:42 PM

lol, I think it will be better to make only one big team on Charas, but I don't know about the other communities...

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on April 21, 2004, 02:29:44 PM

I like these ideas!  :)  I can't wait till the contest starts! :D

BTW, I'm teaching myself to draw charsets, and they're coming along well! I'll try to get better by the time the contest starts!  ;)  Here's a charset of Mario that I drew! (but Tiny Mario is a rip/edit)

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 02:32:12 PM

To draw on this kind of stuff is very hard, and your work looks good!!!

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Post by: X-F3R on April 21, 2004, 02:38:49 PM

omg.. SMB's gonna like that! lol..

anyways, first we discuss the rules, then appointment of jobs to members who would like to volunteer. once that member is in, he should be officially in the "Charas RPG Making Crew" or whatever you wanna call it. :D

i guess part time volunteers wouldn't hurt.. but for each Department, 2/3 of the people in each department should be Full Time resource makers..

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 02:46:54 PM

We need volunteers, now???  (Z)

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Post by: X-F3R on April 21, 2004, 02:57:35 PM

yeah! who's up for it? i'm up for it only part time! lol.. i can design characters too.. i'm gonna take a Graphic Designing and Animation course in University soon cuz i'm pretty good at those.. lol..

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 03:00:53 PM

Maybe could I be the Midis department leader, being the team leader...? I don't know what do you all think...

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Post by: X-F3R on April 21, 2004, 03:16:57 PM

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sorry, i was in a hurry so i just wrote nonsense there.. lol

anyways, the only leader will be the story writer. he will check everything from time to time. he is king while all the others are slaves.. lol.. get the point? :D

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 03:20:57 PM

Yeah, but Alex can't control all the work alone, we need a leader in each department, who could control the work of each maker...no?

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Post by: Red Giant on April 21, 2004, 05:51:53 PM

Cool, a great idea. I can draw some graphics sorta good, provide a few midis and help out with the plot a little... do I have to be in just one department?! I can't decide!! :D

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Post by: Pedro Lion on April 21, 2004, 06:11:18 PM

Is there something that i can do?

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Post by: moiledzep on April 21, 2004, 06:52:02 PM

If you're volunteer, sure!!!
If you can make something very well, you're welcomed!!!

to X-F3R: just as I said it's the same for a story writer, he can't control all the work alone...

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Post by: Alex on April 21, 2004, 10:08:32 PM

Ok then.
Here is the "final" draft:
http://charas-project.net/contest_community.php
Tell me if everything sounds ok to you.

If so, it will be time to inform other communities: some advert will be needed! ;)

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on April 21, 2004, 10:58:07 PM

I just read the draft, and everything looks good!  :heart:  Here are a couple places to advertise the contest (besides Charas's affiliates):

http://www.gamingw.net
http://www.rpgarena.com/neonsoft

 
(BTW, I can also make Systems for the contest)

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Post by: Reain_ on April 22, 2004, 12:59:53 AM

IM IN!!! ok as every one knows i am a beta tester so i work with story lines all the time and now that i only get one hour on the net so i get alot of time on my hands so i can do the plot type stuff like

-Story line (the heart of the game)

-Characters
-Races
-wepons (stats and stuff)
-and any thing else thats with stats or text

i could make the stats of monsters and characters,spells,wepons or work with the story line
I have many storys in my head still and i try to make games but when i do a new story comes along then i start a new game but this contest will help me make a story and see it finished of corse i know im not alone on this and others will have to agree but thats fine with me

so i can work in this section seeing how im not good in coding and graphics but i can do story lines and make up stats and characters

and after it becomes some what done i can gather my team up and we can test it out

so tell me if im good to start cooking up some ideas or not

Reain_

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Post by: Alex on April 22, 2004, 01:07:35 AM

Ok then.
The rules are considered DEFINITIVE!
I'll contat basically charas affiliates Admins only, so feel free to advert this everywhere you go, if you want someone to fight with ;)

You can still discuss and prepare yourselves for the event: June 1th (the date the contest will officially begin) i'll create a new Team section for it, where to work for real.

So get ready, advert, advert, advert, and... have fun!

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Post by: squirreldestiny on April 22, 2004, 01:34:48 AM

I would like to join this contest too.  I would LOVE to be in the story department.  My natural talent is to lighten up the mood a little bit, with puns and stuff.


I also made a cool battle animation of a machinegun crossbow, and I thought of a REALLY cool miniquest puzzle where you have to go through a maze, then a minefield, and then a dumb block pushing thing.  THen you fight the ghost of this warlord Ratufa Indicus, and when you win, you open his chest, where the ghost of Ratufa Indicus is.  There are Four different ghosts claiming to be true, and there is a way to tell which one it is, if you pay attention.


I come up with creative ways to link character stories togetherand often have ideas for cool concepts, such as a light/dark combination magic form(i call it astra).

MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
  I got the following things to make perfect sense in a game:
1. hijack a tank and drive it into YOUR orphanage.
2. put a crystal ball worth a fortune in a sewer
3. eat pie in the middle of a fight
4. play with a cat while you should be doing your homework
5. jump off of a cliff into a giant mass of tornadoes
6. ask the final boss on a date(not really)
7. spit in your own face

That is how powerful I am when it comes to storywriting!

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Post by: X-F3R on April 22, 2004, 05:19:10 AM

 

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Yeah, but Alex can't control all the work alone, we need a leader in each department, who could control the work of each maker...no?

OK lets put it in this way:

Story Writer(s): Church
Leaders: King
Members in each department: Knights

I don't mean to put it in these ways but i guess it's a good way to give the example i wanna spit out.

Church teaches it's preachings to the King while the King's Knights carry out the duties assigned by the King. We need a supervisor too.. lol..

Firstly, we look for a member who has the perfect storyline for us. then, the person who wrote the storyline would then choose a few more members (including Alex, unless the story writer is Alex) for the Head Department. We have to limit this cuz I think too many people in the Head Department is a bad thing.

Then, members who would like to volunteer for resource making may ask if they could do it, with 2 or more samples of what they do. Chipset makers could hand in just one.

Here's what I suggest.. disagree if you want, but I believe this is the best way for now since we are in shortage of hands:

Head - 5 full time, 2 part time (Story Writer, Admin, the rest are chosen to assist the Story Writer for extra stuff.)
Graphics - at least 7 Full time, X part time (we'll need all the help we can get)
Midi - LOL! Obvious isn't it. Our midi maker, Moiledzep is officially a full time MIDI maker for charas.. lol.. anyways, part time MIDI makers should also be welcomed
Codings Department - 1 Full Time, 1 Part Time (codings are basically simple, only frustrating and confusing)
Beta Testing Department - Assigned by the story writer. Must be fair.. and.. errr.. errr... think RRWP!(sorry for using ur name, but you're the best example for the moment :D)

Holy Crap! I forgot the Sounds! How on earth do we make it? Mic + Mouth Sound Effects? lol..

Note, we must be serious in arranging members. Having a huge group in the head department (cuz everyone wants to be in storyline) isn't good.

Now, I just wanna say stuff to all story writers that want to participate in here. KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING! you can't just barge in with a storyline without characters or whatever. You must come in prepared with everything! :D

Then, for a storyline type:
Heroic Fantasy: ZZZzzzzZZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzzzZZZZ
Epic Fantasy: BOOYA!

You'll know why when you read these articles by Craze in GamingW:
http://gamingw.net/articles/497
http://gamingw.net/articles/498

Heroic Fantasy.. ooo i'm so big and muscular! lol.. Epics are good cuz it has more stuff in it other than a goal like in Heroic Fantasy. The Basic Outline of a Heroic Fantasy is Revenge or a Quest, just focusing on that. totally boring! lol.. RPGs like that sux0rz. they're better off as platformers or ARPGs.

as for now, start writing and read those articles!

btw, Alex, this could be war! lol.. make a private section in the forums in case Spies are around.. lololol.. it's a joke, but hey, it may be true.. hahahaha

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Post by: moiledzep on April 22, 2004, 09:40:18 AM

When the definitive Charas team will be chosen, could someone make a list of all volunteers with their name and title (church, king, knight, if you prefer...)

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Post by: X-F3R on April 22, 2004, 09:58:56 AM

i'm only good at some forms of designing such as character designing and map designing. i don't have proper tools for map designing tho.. lol.. as in sketches and such.. :D

once alex sets up the private forums then we could make the list there and update it whenever someone volunteers. :D

we also have to set a limit.. 1 month from now, maybe, members that were here for a month or more could join it. members who joined later than march 22nd can't join.. lol.. (spies..) hahahahaha

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Post by: SMB on April 22, 2004, 10:01:48 AM

I think it will be soon necessary to make:
1) A list of volunteers
2) Divide them about their best capacities
3) Make a different topic where talk about ideas, the Story before all but also Battle Systems ecc...
Then make different topics to talk about various things, one for Charsets, one for Midis ecc...

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Post by: moiledzep on April 22, 2004, 10:08:35 AM

And I think that we'll need a special space where we'll can work for the contest...

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Post by: Alex on April 22, 2004, 10:15:21 AM

That space will be the new section under "teams".
But to be correct i should wait for some other community to subscribe, before creating that.

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Post by: X-F3R on April 22, 2004, 10:34:18 AM

yep..

when 2 communities join. 1 on 1 sux.. lol.. triple threat rules! fatal four way is better than triple threat and a 5 (or more) community battle royal is the best! lol..

and also, choosing members that would work for full time is the best option. volunteers would only become part time members unless the Head Department chooses him/her to be a full time member.

as for "Population Control", we have to set a number for the Head Department. as i said before, 5 Full Timers and 2 Part Timers. I wish to work for Character Designing, Part Time cuz i'm gonna go to university soon.. lol.. but that's your choice, not mine :D

we'll need all the help we can get for graphics.

For now:
Graphics - Don't know yet..
Midi - Moiledzep
Codings - I'd like to recommend Warxe or Rowan but it's their choice whether to join or not.

one question, how do we make sound effects? lol..

smb, if we have a list of volunteers, then most of them would prefer to go to Storyline making. the story writer should choose 3 more members for the head commitee. Alex is automatically in cuz the Admin definetly has to be in the Head Department. Unless the storyline will be written by Alex, he will choose 4 members for the head. then the 5 would choose 2 part time workers.

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Post by: moiledzep on April 22, 2004, 10:39:38 AM

I just put a link to the advert for the contest on a french RPGmaking site...maybe they'll join, but I'm not sure

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Post by: X-F3R on April 22, 2004, 12:05:54 PM

=3= can they translate the game into english? :D

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Post by: moiledzep on April 22, 2004, 09:34:43 PM

I think they'll not join, they think english is boring for them, and they didn't made any game since a long time...

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Post by: X-F3R on April 23, 2004, 02:50:01 AM

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I think they'll not join, they think english is boring for them, and they didn't made any game since a long time...

mmmkeh..

anyways, since someone from the music department is here right now, let's not waste time and discuss what to put in the game..

do you guys think that Character Intros are neccessary?

i think i've got a good storyline.. i only have a basic outline.. i'll give it to alex if it's the one we'll be using.. i can't be around full time.. i'll tell you guys later on why.. hehe

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Post by: Reain_ on April 23, 2004, 07:58:03 PM

Well im in for the story line and things like that all the brain work right here trust me i can do this also it will allow me to work off the net and the comp so i can get it done quicker and i have already started

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Post by: moiledzep on April 23, 2004, 08:21:52 PM

I'v got an answer from the neonsoft site:

http://neonsoft.rpgarena.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=643

http://neonsoft.rpgarena.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=641

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 05:08:21 AM

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Well im in for the story line and things like that all the brain work right here trust me i can do this also it will allow me to work off the net and the comp so i can get it done quicker and i have already started

hmmm.. then you might be facing about 2-3 other story writers here.. hehe.. wait.. a deadline of handing in the outline of storylines! hmmm.. 2 weeks starting monday or what? we got one reply already and i guess 1 on 1 isn't that bad.. better than nothing :D but if no one joins, let's still do this! lol..

i think the NeonSoft is good in graphics.

hey, i think this is a good time to start developing good relationships with other communities. charas could get more Affiliations.. be more recognized.. all that jazz. :D

GHOSTCLOWN212!!! REPLY PLEASE!!! charas will need you to make charsets for this! :P i've got an idea for triggering battles.. but i'll just post it in the private forums.

first, let's discuss a timeline. Victorian (Midieval), Modern or Futuristic? i'll be getting some stuff ready in wednesday so maybe finish 2morrow afternoon? :D there's still the other side of the world (USA) and right now it must be around 6:00 AM in central Euroupe.. i think.. lol..

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Post by: Reain_ on April 24, 2004, 05:12:11 AM

well acttually would more than one writer be better any way we could disscuss it and combine ideas because we dont want just a story of one person or it be more like there game just others making it

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 05:26:22 AM

that's why the storywriter chooses a few more dudes to help him out with his stuff. just the basic outline of the game first. then continue and continue and discuss how to do this and that to the player.

no one has to get too excited or anything.. once the thing officially starts, that's when we do our stuff! so next next monday! well, not a very good sign for me.. i'll tell you later! :D

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Post by: Alex on April 24, 2004, 10:51:43 AM

A small update:

GGZ replied to me they will not join (too busy)
But as you can see in the rules page, RPG Infinity is in!
Other threads about our proposal in various communities (as far as i know):

http://neonsoft.rpgarena.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=643
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=59219
http://forums.rpginfinity.com/index.php?showtopic=4150

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Post by: Reain_ on April 24, 2004, 12:30:26 PM

i posted up at B*B but im not sure if there in or not yet i got 3 admins aims so i will contact them about it some want to others dont understand the rules but i think they might join

http://www.m2kbrothers.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=608 <--------------Post i made

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 01:19:29 PM

BOOYA! I'm all hyped up now! lol.. but too bad my hype will be forced to end. hehe.. well, i won't be an important factor in this.. i think but anyways i'll fill ya in later on why i'm always saying i'm can't do much.. no, i'm not dying! hahahaha

anyways, until march eh.. i'll make a schedule.. trust me, and it will be VERY effective. Alex, can you make a private forums for now? maybe 2.. 1 for discussion and 1 for enrollment.. lol.. i'll post the schedule there. it WILL work even if we have just one person in each department.. lol.. maybe at least 3 in the graphics department =P

so it's.. 1 *may*, 2 *june*, 3 *july*, 4 *august*, 5 *September*, 6 *Octombre*, 7 *Novembre*, 8 *Decembre*, 9 *javier*(ok, why am i doing this in french? oh well.. hope my french teacher sees this.. lol), 10 *fevrier* et 11 *mars*

so that's 11 months.. we.. erm.. you (i'll tell you later why.. hopefully it'll be "we" again :D) should have a month to discuss and a month and a half to 2 months to re-check everything. last 2 weeks is the beta-testing period and the last 3 days is the packing of all this and that.. hehe.. so that leaves 8 months of resource making. maybe a few weeks longer if the discussion was quicker. :D

ok, how would you want this game to be like? would it be an Area-Focused game (like suikoden) or World (Final Fantasy) based? timeline? epic? heroic? etc

i vote for.. Area-Focused + Epic + Victorian

anyone who wants to object, do so.. but here are my reasons why i chose those

Area Focused:
-Saves Time
-Chipsets would have to be more similar, giving the chipset maker less work (chipsets are really hard to make if ya ask me)
-Charsets would also be pretty "One-Based". Civilian Charsets' styles will be similar.

Epic:
-More interesting IMO
-Plot Twists

Victorian:
-Swords, Shields and Arrows RULE! I mean look.. futuristic.. bleh.. Lazer Swords.. Plasma Shields.. etc etc.. zzzzz

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Post by: Reain_ on April 24, 2004, 02:49:19 PM

well seeing how im working with story i have decided to creat polls and have votes on time era and stuff like that

but i also thought to my self what most rpg's have and i want to try and minimal common things in rpg's like......

-hero falling in love with girl (see this to many times and its boring)

-villan wants world controll (againg another common boring subject)

-Hero never fails (we could keep this but mabey we could add a few twist like he is actually ben the evil one this whole time)

these are things i see alot in rpgs that bore me and sure it bores others

what we need are twist and turns and unexpected things (like hero is acctually the bad guy in the end or instead of world power the villan wanted a borito (well not that stupid ) but u get what im saying)

oh and who else is working on story line cuz i would like to contact them so we can get things all together

im already working on storys right now so we get a head start but i wont submit anything till it begings

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Post by: Red Giant on April 24, 2004, 02:59:57 PM

How about a FEMALE main character? HUH?!?!
Nononono.... what we need is a very interactive game... multiple endings, character selection etc. Basically anything that will give the player reason to re-play.

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Post by: Reain_ on April 24, 2004, 03:01:57 PM

Acctually thats not a bad idea u mean like a D&D type make your own character?

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Post by: WarxePB on April 24, 2004, 03:05:20 PM

Me & Drunk know a few forums, we'll go advertise there.

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 03:08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Red Giant
How about a FEMALE main character? HUH?!?!
Nononono.... what we need is a very interactive game... multiple endings, character selection etc. Basically anything that will give the player reason to re-play.

hahaha relax! a female character.. interesting.. but if we plan to make her a hero in heroic then she must be this tough yiddy yaddish chick who sooner or later falls in love with a certain someone...

and yes! that's a really good idea! so it's like.. if we make a game based on suikoden.. as in a lot of people, then you have to choose between 2 characters. 1 character has this story and that character has that story.. nice one!

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Post by: Red Giant on April 24, 2004, 03:15:57 PM

Yes, something like that. Or maybe alot of choices that you get in the game that reflects the final outcome.

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 03:18:43 PM

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Originally posted by Red Giant
Yes, something like that. Or maybe alot of choices that you get in the game that reflects the final outcome.

nah.. not that.. too much work.. lol.. well, maybe not but for major questions.. set a var and add it up as you make good decisions, minus as you make bad decisions and nothing when you make fair decisions. hehehe.. but still.. *jamacan accent* it be wierd man.. lol..

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Post by: moiledzep on April 24, 2004, 05:19:25 PM

I thought maybe to be original, the hero could be for one time, twins...

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 05:37:34 PM

twins.. nah.. lol.. not good.. one goes to the opposing side if it's a war kind of story. :D pretty predictable.. and if the twin is gonna stay on your side, zzz.. lol.. but hey, we'll think of something.. don't focus on the hero just yet.. focus on the story first.

let's make this a Suikoden Type thing? who's up to it? :D

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Post by: Red Giant on April 24, 2004, 05:42:51 PM

And multiple endings, c'mon YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!!
Whaddabout a game where you get to pick your first character, but the rest can only be found by decision making. That way, you can't easily pick all your favourite characters.

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on April 24, 2004, 06:03:28 PM

We need a secret dungeon, too. I was thinking it could be like the secret dungeon in Star Ocean 2; it has 13 floors, and each floor has a puzzle and and boss, and lots of treasure. I could help think of more ideas for this.

And yes, multiple endings is a must!  :sweet:

And about the timeline, IMO it shouldn't be Medievil with kings and stuff; it's way overdone.

Also, here's another community someone can advertise at:

http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/gentopic.asp?board=32170

However, there's a problem: No admin. The admin of GameFAQs runs the entire site, and if someone contacts him about the contest, he won't care, mainly because RM2k is illegal. So I guess the only way for them to sign up is if the majority of the people want to participate.

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Post by: X-F3R on April 24, 2004, 06:10:02 PM

4 endings?

Bad, Neutral, Good and Best Ending! :D

AHA! i was idle for about 5 mins after that :D up there.. lol..

MOILEDZEP! you tha man! twins! i've thought about it and yeah.. if this was a war between this army and that army then hey.. i've got one right here! PLUS, i've got something good planned..*evil laugh* Mwahaha Mwahahaha MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA *inhale* MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahaha... *bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

c'mon alex.. lol.. make the forum already :P i'm hyped up again! but i guess we'll need pro coders! Warxe, got the magic for that? :D or anyone else?

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And about the timeline, IMO it shouldn't be Medievil with kings and stuff; it's way overdone.

but still effective.. i've got something in mind.. not sure if we should include kings and queens in it but heck, it'll be Victorian..

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Post by: Reain_ on April 24, 2004, 09:44:02 PM

Well the story writers will get ideas and creat the story using your opinions i will creat topics in the all of all for your opinions

aslo i have advertised in these places

(B*B)  http://www.m2kbrothers.com/invision/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=608

(RPG2K.NET)  http://www.rpg2knet.com/forum/topic.php?post=46720&start=0&span=15#p46720

(Sky Towers)  http://www.skytowergames.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=chat;action=display;num=1082840935;start=0#0

(X-RPG)  http://x4.invisionfree.com/xrpg100/index.php?showtopic=1008

B*B seems that they might go in to this competition because they have replyed and some want to do this

the others last time i checked no replys

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Post by: Alex on April 25, 2004, 01:22:25 AM

Good job, thanx to anyone!
In the meanwhile:

- Dark dominion joined the contest. The now are 3 splitted communities, but within a couple of months they should be glued into one

- Forum for the contest created! It's the first under the Teams section, so go there, read and post ;)

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Post by: oooog on April 25, 2004, 01:31:06 AM

not sure if this is in here al ready, only got to this thread today so i read the first page only, but from what, i believe is was moil or smb, they said that thing about ripping being a problem, if it still is, im pretty good at editing files aswell as ripping, given time of course, and if you still need the help.

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Post by: sicsicboi on April 25, 2004, 04:08:48 AM

Hey, Hey! I'd like to thank all of you guys for organizing this contest! We at RPGi are all excited :)

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Post by: sicsicboi on April 25, 2004, 04:09:21 AM

Hey, Hey! I'd like to thank all of you guys for organizing this contest! We at RPGi are all excited :)

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Post by: moiledzep on April 25, 2004, 11:06:12 AM

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Originally posted by X-F3R
MOILEDZEP! you tha man! twins! i've thought about it and yeah.. if this was a war between this army and that army then hey.. i've got one right here! PLUS, i've got something good planned..*evil laugh* Mwahaha Mwahahaha MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA *inhale* MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahaha... *bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

Does it mean that my idea about twins was a good idea?

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Post by: Reain_ on April 25, 2004, 11:21:13 AM

Well i think B*B has decided to join they should be sgning up soon because they made a whole section for the comunity challenge and are getting thier team together

http://www.m2kbrothers.com/invision/index.php?act=idx

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Post by: X-F3R on April 25, 2004, 11:57:55 AM

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Originally posted by moiledzep

quote:

Originally posted by X-F3R MOILEDZEP! you tha man! twins! i've thought about it and yeah.. if this was a war between this army and that army then hey.. i've got one right here! PLUS, i've got something good planned..*evil laugh* Mwahaha Mwahahaha MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA *inhale* MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahaha... *bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

Does it mean that my idea about twins was a good idea?

HELL YEAH! u tha man!

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Post by: moiledzep on April 25, 2004, 12:43:13 PM

Oh, I'm happy!!!!
And more, I think that twins is an original element for a RPG style

Title: "fight for Charas's honor"
Post by: Frosty on April 25, 2004, 08:09:02 PM

"fight for Charas's honor"
This is what Bravesoft was made for...This is our purpous!!!
We will serve charas!!!!!!!!!!
4LIFE

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Post by: Frosty on April 25, 2004, 08:13:16 PM

I would also like to join this thing...
Lmao

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Post by: Alex on April 25, 2004, 08:36:10 PM

UPDATE:
Gaming World and Likwid RPG Makers are officially in!

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Post by: moiledzep on April 25, 2004, 08:53:02 PM

I asked to the Yume Team, a great french, but in reality, I think they are very bad, and bored guys...they'll not join I think

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Post by: X-F3R on April 26, 2004, 10:07:02 AM

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Originally posted by moiledzep
I asked to the Yume Team, a great french, but in reality, I think they are very bad, and bored guys...they'll not join I think

lol let them read that post and i guess they will join =P

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Post by: moiledzep on April 26, 2004, 10:26:19 AM

No, I think it's definitive, they'll not join, they are only wrong guys...

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Post by: GaryCXJk on April 26, 2004, 12:01:43 PM

Sorry but I won't help you guys. I'm considering entering with Multiverse Works, and all-round site (Flash, games, art, sprites).

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Post by: aoikiwi on July 01, 2004, 03:17:16 AM

Okay, I don't know if this goes here, but I just wanted to ask:

I'm aoikiwi and I'm on the STG staff team. Our staff's been working really hard on this project and we've spent many hours making original resources, so I just wanted to know before we got any further what the probability is, of several communities pulling out finished, totally original games by the deadline.

I don't mean to insult anyone's motivation or anything like that, but since we're investing so much time in this i just wanted to make sure there won't end up being, like, 2 or 3 communities participating in the end, or no one with a finished game.
If we do this, we want it to be competetive, up against some awesome games, and have our game be worth what we put in it. I'm sure all communities seriously into the competition feel the same way about this.

So please, tell me if you think there's going to be enough communities that take this seriously, pull through and finish, for us to put our all into it!

Thanks,
-Aoikiwi

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Post by: Alex on July 01, 2004, 10:40:14 AM

Don't really know how many, evenif i hope everyone.
This is something only staffs of other partecipating communities may reply to.
As for Charas, main contest staff members seems to be really involved, i think i can say we're in!
Anyhow, i sent a PM to contest's team leader, to come here and say how's Charas going.

About the other comunities, i'm afraid you can only ask them directly (evenifi saw movement here and there on contest's subject)

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Post by: carmen on July 02, 2004, 04:14:56 AM

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Originally posted by aoikiwi
Okay, I don't know if this goes here, but I just wanted to ask:

I'm aoikiwi and I'm on the STG staff team. Our staff's been working really hard on this project and we've spent many hours making original resources, so I just wanted to know before we got any further what the probability is, of several communities pulling out finished, totally original games by the deadline.

I don't mean to insult anyone's motivation or anything like that, but since we're investing so much time in this i just wanted to make sure there won't end up being, like, 2 or 3 communities participating in the end, or no one with a finished game.
If we do this, we want it to be competetive, up against some awesome games, and have our game be worth what we put in it. I'm sure all communities seriously into the competition feel the same way about this.

So please, tell me if you think there's going to be enough communities that take this seriously, pull through and finish, for us to put our all into it!

Thanks,
-Aoikiwi

Dear Aoikiwi,

               I'm not sure about other sites but I know ours will be there for the finish ^_^, some of our members have been working very hard as well. We're having some trouble finding motivation, but we're doing good over all. Especially since last week, we've really started going! But like I said before, I'm not sure about other sites, but we'll be at the finish line with you ^_-

                        --Carmen
     Character Creator Admin./Community Contest direc.

Title: Question
Post by: Majin-alucard on July 23, 2004, 10:33:54 PM

Is it too late to sign up? I think i could do good on charsets/battle sets. I've been spriting for about a year and i have experience making sprites for games (not RPGM2k). I think i would  do good and this seems like fun.