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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Grandy on February 16, 2010, 04:19:44 PM

Title: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 16, 2010, 04:19:44 PM
 Speaking to Lucas over MSN, I find out he can edit Brawl skins. The idea popped in my head instantaniously.

 I don't guarantee the idea will ever take of, but here are some random ideas we had:


Sai'Kar - Zelda/Sheik (It's a male whose female avatar occasionaly pretends to be male!)
Warxe - Isaac (Assist trophy)
Grandy - Ike (Only character whose body fit)
Lucas - Pokemon Trainer
Xen - Charizard
Archem - Mr. Resetti (Assist Tropy and the only character that fit archem's body)
Alex - Lyn (Assist Trophy and bishounen)
Raffles - Ganondorf
Darkfox - Star Fox


Around this time we kind of ran out of ideas.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 16, 2010, 04:31:14 PM
ZeroKirbyX - Kirby
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 16, 2010, 04:35:58 PM
How I forget that?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 16, 2010, 04:44:52 PM
That is a good question.

Cerebus - Fox/Wolf! (the gaz mask will look terrible =D)
X_marks_the_ed - Falco (the only bird character)
StinkyBot - R.O.B. (just kidding)
SMB - Mario (oh man, so much change needed!)
Bluhman - Snake (?)

Also, maybe Lucario could fit Darkfox more since, from what I remember, his character doesn't wear any... clothes or something. Well at least not a jacket.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: MissingName on February 16, 2010, 05:02:56 PM
This idea sounds extremely amusing.

...how can he edit Brawl skins?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 16, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
This idea sounds extremely amusing.

...how can he edit Brawl skins?
With a knife and a brawl disk. I need to scratch the disk on the right places. Scratches of about 0.01mm each.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 16, 2010, 05:05:38 PM
It's quite a sight to see, really.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 16, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
MSLash - bowser obviously
Fisherson - Link?
Drak - Meta knight? (His avatar kinda reminds me of meta knight's mask only a lot more demonic)
Zuhane - Lucas? Jeff? (got the hair and no real melee attacks)
FFL1&2 - Cpt Falcon? (if we want the castelvania guy or whatever he was)
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 16, 2010, 06:17:11 PM
Also, maybe Lucario could fit Darkfox more since, from what I remember, his character doesn't wear any... clothes or something. Well at least not a jacket.

Renard Ferdinand Lightway does too wear clothes! But Dafauks doesn't, though he's a toon. XD
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on February 16, 2010, 06:54:36 PM
Ooh! Ooh! Can I be Mr. Game and Watch?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 16, 2010, 07:19:15 PM
I was trying to figure out who I best would fit in as, and I didn't even think about that.
(you know, with Kyoob and stuff).
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 16, 2010, 07:26:49 PM
If you could change Mr. Game & Watch's appearance to be more square-ish, it would fit perfectly with the colours.
But I highly doubt you can.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 16, 2010, 07:29:51 PM
I was thinking more of an "in spirit" type deal.
'else I'd probably be...can't remember his name, he's the giant polygon face in Starfox.
He would spit out Kyoob's and look like a general badass.

EDIT: Also, I generally draw (http://fruckert.deviantart.com/art/Myrdia-Slyth-Sketch-152946353) like Toon Link is shaped.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: SaiKar on February 16, 2010, 07:51:51 PM
Zelda's dress and magic attacks are actually prolly pretty close to how Sai would fight too. Approve.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 16, 2010, 10:25:14 PM
Fruckert's thinking of the Andross assist trophy.

Chisoku - Captain Falcon
Dragonium - Ike
Elecrusher - Pikachu
Prplmage - Ganondorf
CoasterKrazy - Game and Watch

This game needed a character that wore a suit, dammit.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 16, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
What? A thread on this?

Is this really necessary? Oh well, I always need moar **** to skin.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Emerates on February 16, 2010, 11:45:16 PM
If you go off the Character Profile thread I posted in, my namesake would probably be closest to Tabuu, unless you could make someone else transluscent glowy blue.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 17, 2010, 04:07:18 AM
Archem - Mr. Resetti
Are you calling me a spammer?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Fortet on February 17, 2010, 04:58:33 AM
i can haz brall karakter?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HobomasterXXX on February 17, 2010, 06:13:23 AM
Why do none of the Brawl characters have tophats and large beards?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 17, 2010, 06:23:55 AM
Why are there no smelly hobos in Nintendo?

Oh wait, who's going to be Samus?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 17, 2010, 07:05:52 AM
Why are there no smelly hobos in Nintendo?

Oh wait, who's going to be Samus?

You can be wario with an almost top hat.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 17, 2010, 12:06:12 PM
i can haz brall karakter?

Luigi or Ness?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 17, 2010, 04:01:07 PM
Oh wait, who's going to be Samus?
Gemini for Samus and Val for ZSS. :P
Oh and.
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7138/rainbowscreenshots.png)
I'm fixing that box around the eyes but once I finish fixing it I will be too lazy to take new screenshots
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 17, 2010, 04:58:01 PM
Doesn't look dumb enough, needs more dumb face
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Valiere on February 17, 2010, 06:25:27 PM
Oh, I think that looks plenty dumb.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 17, 2010, 06:43:32 PM
He totally has a mustache when looking up.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Ben on February 17, 2010, 07:14:47 PM
thats what she said
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 17, 2010, 07:16:39 PM
and thus archem was a girl.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 17, 2010, 07:28:19 PM
Bigger mouth, smaller 'stache.

EDIT: Also, more space between the eyes.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: zuhane on February 17, 2010, 07:36:51 PM
Two random questions:

1. How on earth do you skin SSB:B?

2. Would getting a 480p cable make much difference to the quality?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 17, 2010, 07:49:52 PM
Bigger mouth, smaller 'stache.

EDIT: Also, more space between the eyes.

Place the eyes right above the corners of the mouth. That should do it.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 17, 2010, 08:50:51 PM
Can't change where the eyes are.
Can't change the mouth size either, just do that thing I did.
Two random questions:

1. How on earth do you skin SSB:B?

2. Would getting a 480p cable make much difference to the quality?
1- I just edit the textures and then import them back in.
2- What?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 17, 2010, 09:57:51 PM
Can't change where the eyes are.
Why? Are they treated as a separate texture/decal?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 17, 2010, 10:36:57 PM
Yes. The face is not just one big texture, several pieces are scattered on the sheet, and the game itself assembles the face of squirtle. Every character has only one eye texture (per form), and Brawl just duplicates it on both sides.

By per form, I mean there is a single eye texture for normal form, and one eye for when the character has a smash aura.



The most that can be done to models themselves at the moment is to remove bits and pieces. I, forinstance, just finally managed to get off Falco's headpiece for my own Chicken Man skin.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 17, 2010, 10:51:17 PM
Maybe, but those eyes are just specks. Can't you move them to the outward edges of where the squirtile's much larger eyes are meant to be (which, by the way, reaches just to the corners of the mouth)?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 17, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
Or, perhaps, place them on the base face texture, leaving the eyes blank?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 17, 2010, 11:18:37 PM
I don't know how Squirtle's skin works exactly, as I've never toyed with it, but most likely, moving the pupil would probably affect both eyes the same.

Example:

Old:      ' _ '
New:      '_  '


Unless they're mirrored, then it's possible.




Archem: To do that would require the knowledge of where exactly that massive blob of blue has the spots you would use.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Legacy of Elecrusher on February 17, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
Archem: To do that would require the knowledge of where exactly that massive blob of blue has the spots you would use.

Or trial and error.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 17, 2010, 11:53:31 PM
I don't know how Squirtle's skin works exactly, as I've never toyed with it, but most likely, moving the pupil would probably affect both eyes the same.

Example:

Old:      ' _ '
New:      '_  '


Unless they're mirrored, then it's possible.




Archem: To do that would require the knowledge of where exactly that massive blob of blue has the spots you would use.

I'm pretty sure they're mirrored. Either that, or the 2 eyes are present on the same texture map.

(EDIT: After checking, yes, those eyes definitely look mirrored.)
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 18, 2010, 12:01:31 AM
I'm just going by how every other character's eyes work. :/


BTW:

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/X_marks_the_ed/chickenman4brawl_small.png)


Now that ourselves are out of the way, we can move onto other members. =D
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 18, 2010, 12:18:15 AM
So...Gemini is going to be a tranny Val?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 18, 2010, 12:22:59 AM
I hope to learn enough of moveset coding to be able to remove the transformation part of Samus' final smash, keeping the lazer, but ditching the generation of throwable items and the transformation itself, making the two seperate characters.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 18, 2010, 02:58:55 AM
Yes. The face is not just one big texture, several pieces are scattered on the sheet, and the game itself assembles the face of squirtle. Every character has only one eye texture (per form), and Brawl just duplicates it on both sides.

By per form, I mean there is a single eye texture for normal form, and one eye for when the character has a smash aura.



The most that can be done to models themselves at the moment is to remove bits and pieces. I, forinstance, just finally managed to get off Falco's headpiece for my own Chicken Man skin.

Can't he remove the eyes altogether and add dots to the cheeks or something?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 18, 2010, 04:52:51 AM
That's basically what I suggested.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 18, 2010, 02:20:24 PM
Yeah, and it wouldnt work. It would get all stretched.
I'm going to *TRY* to drag the eyes all the way to the side. But even if it works the way you guys think it does... There's only a few pixels that I can move them.
EDIT: No difference. Remember that squirtle's eye are right on top of his OLD mouth. I made his mouth wider, but I still cant change the eyes location.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 18, 2010, 04:33:36 PM
Eh, alright then.

EDIT: OH! But you should remove his arms.

I know it's possible, because I've seen many skins with removed body parts/clothes, like removing the cape from Ganon or Peach's skirt. You should be able to remove squirtle's arms.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 18, 2010, 04:47:30 PM
If you could remove his arms but leave his hands, it would be good too, considering your current avatar do have hands. Or even better, removing all, but having his hands appear only when he has to use them, but that I guess would be either too complicated or just impossible to do.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 18, 2010, 04:57:19 PM
Those are hands?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 18, 2010, 05:29:03 PM
Looks like he's "Bye-Bye"-ing behind him with his right hand while his left just move as he run. If it's not his arms, then I wonder what else it could be.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 18, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
Eh, alright then.

EDIT: OH! But you should remove his arms.

I know it's possible, because I've seen many skins with removed body parts/clothes, like removing the cape from Ganon or Peach's skirt. You should be able to remove squirtle's arms.
No, thats not how it works.
Some pics allow transparency, like DK's fur. So you could have a bunch of transparent holes in DK if you wanted to.
Squirtle's textures, on the other hand, don't.
And removing the hand would take knowledge of 3D models, which I don't have.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: SaiKar on February 18, 2010, 07:37:04 PM
Oh wait, there's actual retexturing and stuff happening? I would kill for a Sai Zelda mockup. KILL! Or love. Whichever you want really.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Valiere on February 18, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
Gemini for Samus and Val for ZSS. :P

And screw that, dibs on DK.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 18, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
Oh wait, there's actual retexturing and stuff happening? I would kill for a Sai Zelda mockup. KILL! Or love. Whichever you want really.
Hahaha. Ed will probably do it since it takes a bit more than recoloring and small edits.
And screw that, dibs on DK.
Zuhane gets to be DK. :P
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 18, 2010, 10:54:25 PM
No, thats not how it works.
Some pics allow transparency, like DK's fur. So you could have a bunch of transparent holes in DK if you wanted to.
Squirtle's textures, on the other hand, don't.
And removing the hand would take knowledge of 3D models, which I don't have.

I talked to Ed, and it seems quite possible. It's a little more complicated than just retexturing, but basically he says it'd be possible to move the poligons on characters slightly. Squirtle's arms could be moved to inside it's shell, or just have the poligons all stand in the same pixel as to be invisible.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 18, 2010, 11:08:26 PM
I talked to Ed, and it seems quite possible. It's a little more complicated than just retexturing, but basically he says it'd be possible to move the poligons on characters slightly. Squirtle's arms could be moved to inside it's shell, or just have the poligons all stand in the same pixel as to be invisible.
If he does it, sure. I don't even have the stuff that does that. X]
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Fortet on February 18, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
Luigi or Ness?

Ness :)
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 19, 2010, 01:56:41 AM
Ness :)

Noted. In fact, here's my current roster list:

Missingname = Mario
? = Luigi
Sarah C. = Peach
? = Bowser
Zuhane = Donkey
? = Diddy
? = Yoshi
Hobomaster = Wario
Fisherson = Link
Sai'Kar = Zelda
Sai'Kar = Sheik
Prpl Mage = Ganondorf
? = Toon Link
Gemini = Samus
Valiere = Fanservice Samus
? = Pit
? = Ice Climbers
? = ROB
Fruck = Kirby
ZeroKirbyX = Meta Knight
? = King Dedede
Coreystranick = Olimar
? = Fox
Xmarkstheed = Falco
Cerebus = Wolf
Chisoku  = Captain Falcon
? = Pikachu
Lucas = Pokemon Trainer
Darkfox = Lucario
? = Jigglypuff
Dragonium = Marth
Grandy = Ike
Fortet = Ness
? = Lucas
Archem or CK = Game and Watch
Bluhman = Snake
? = Sonic

Any more suggestions, feel free to make them. And, so it's known, I choose my projects by randomly clicking on a line. Hobo's is next.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 19, 2010, 01:58:27 AM
I'm Kirby?
...why?

EDIT: On a side note, I totally thought that this topic was for a contest at first.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 19, 2010, 02:02:27 AM
I'm Kirby?
...why?

EDIT: On a side note, I totally thought that this topic was for a contest at first.

1. Because I have a feeling that by playing around with his square brick model, I can make it his real model, and by then, I'll have a good idea of the moveset coding.

2. Nah, really, it was just a hobby I had for a while, which Lucas got into, spread to Grandy, I think, and then Lucas and Grandy concieved the idea, and I have absolutely nothing better to do with my time.


My real goal is to create a decent-sized roster, complete with character select, in-battle, and name graphics for all of the members involved. (But really, I just want to see how badly I can mess up Nintendo's current greatest game (besides Melee.))
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 19, 2010, 02:13:37 AM
You can just give out Pit blond hair, red toga and a grin and that'll be my avatar. Infact I just noticed how Pit's body resembles Viral's a bit. Side from the  proportion, wings, and blade. But if Gurren Lagan made Viral a rockstar why cant I make him into a sort of underwordly winged creature.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 19, 2010, 02:15:09 AM
You can just give out Pit blond hair, red toga and a grin and that'll be my avatar.

Awesome. And it'll work, because Pit's mouth consists of nothing but changing to a large black sphere on his face. X)
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 19, 2010, 02:22:02 AM
Oh, I actually didn't expect Cerebus to be on the list. Shweet!
And Sarah C. as well, nice! Though will it be possible to change Peach's clothes to match Sarah's?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Uberpwn_w00t on February 19, 2010, 02:23:11 AM
All the swordsmen seem to be taken. How inconvenient.

I guess there's toon link, that would be pretty funny. If only he didn't have that silly hat.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 19, 2010, 02:28:22 AM
Cool, I would really like to see DF's retexture. I really do think Lucario is a bit close to his character's body structure. Although not totally.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 19, 2010, 02:47:30 AM
All the swordsmen seem to be taken. How inconvenient.

I guess there's toon link, that would be pretty funny. If only he didn't have that silly hat.

Characters have multiple costumes. You could easily probably fit into another Ike slot. Or marth.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 19, 2010, 02:53:29 AM
Actually I just found out you can take off Pit's Wings off entirely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3l3MHRjfm8&feature=related
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 19, 2010, 11:50:43 AM
Actually I just found out you can take off Pit's Wings off entirely.

We've been discussing stuff like this for the past few pages. Notice my own skin. I was able to remove Falco's headpiece.

By the way, Hobo's top hat is well on it's way.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HobomasterXXX on February 19, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
By the way, Hobo's top hat is well on it's way.
Wait I stop reading this thread, come back and see this? You are officially awesome.
EDIT: I'm Wario. I should probably be offended by this? I'm not really. Wario is awesome.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 19, 2010, 12:59:22 PM
You get a bike, and you're in top tier. Pretty sweet deal, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 19, 2010, 02:29:17 PM
All the swordsmen seem to be taken. How inconvenient.

I guess there's toon link, that would be pretty funny. If only he didn't have that silly hat.
Okay. Your old avy kinda looked a bit like him, and we don't have anyone else for him.
Cool, I would really like to see DF's retexture. I really do think Lucario is a bit close to his character's body structure. Although not totally.
I will probably work on it later today.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: MissingName on February 19, 2010, 03:09:37 PM
I'm Mario?  ...it'll be interesting to see how that turns into a cranky Soviet soldier.

Also:

Felix = Fox
Drakyith = Bowser or Dedede

...and that's all I can really think of.  How the hell are the Ice Climbers going to work out?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 19, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
Archem should be the ice climbers.
Seriously. Paint them all black with green eyes, and a white... Clothing thing. Not the whole thing. Just that... Thingy thing around their faces. You know what I mean.

Him, or MIC.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 19, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
Archem should be the ice climbers.
Seriously. Paint them all black with green eyes, and a white... Clothing thing. Not the whole thing. Just that... Thingy thing around their faces. You know what I mean.

Him, or MIC.

No, they're partners so they should obviously be Red and White. Just paint a skull in one and give the other fangs, if theres a top hat all the better.


EDIT: You know what this thread reminds me?

A certain Doom edit that was never finished because I stoped menacing the maker at knifepoint.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 19, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Lmao. True.
About both things.
Not sure if I can make the top hat. But ed might. And the idea is cool.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 19, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
Who will be the girl?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 19, 2010, 04:25:50 PM
Cool, I would really like to see DF's retexture. I really do think Lucario is a bit close to his character's body structure. Although not totally.

Which one? Dafauks my mascot or Renard my persona? XD If we are going by avatars, that would be Dafauks.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 19, 2010, 05:55:01 PM
This one.
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3765/al1002191543binout.jpg)
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Valiere on February 19, 2010, 06:16:44 PM
That's pretty cool!
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: carmen on February 19, 2010, 07:49:40 PM
I've never played brawl.


fail. =c
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 19, 2010, 07:58:07 PM
Its the best wii game ever.
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2214/zuhane.png)
Actually joining one of the projects here and doing for the community, it feels pretty good, I tell ya. I think I didn't join any of the other ones like chain games and stuff. I joined some but left them all. Maybe I can finish this one?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 19, 2010, 08:44:57 PM
I know this is walking too fast and that's what usually kills these things, but there's also a Custom Song program for all of ye who want to have their own themes in the game.

I myself don't care that much for personal themes, but am doing a little modifications of my own because I dislike the song choises of many stages. Goodbie Tetris B, welcome Super Mario World Ghost House.

Edit:

And definetely Goodbye "25 M" and a very hearty welcome to Angry Video Game Nerd's Theme 8-bit version.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: MissingName on February 19, 2010, 09:16:52 PM
I know this is walking too fast and that's what usually kills these things, but there's also a Custom Song program for all of ye who want to have their own themes in the game.

I myself don't care that much for personal themes, but am doing a little modifications of my own because I dislike the song choises of many stages. Goodbie Tetris B, welcome Super Mario World Ghost House.

Edit:

And definetely Goodbye "25 M" and a very hearty welcome to Angry Video Game Nerd's Theme 8-bit version.

Mine would have to be either the Soviet national anthem or Spanish Flea.

Everything looks awesome.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 19, 2010, 09:49:35 PM
I know this is walking too fast and that's what usually kills these things, but there's also a Custom Song program for all of ye who want to have their own themes in the game.

I myself don't care that much for personal themes, but am doing a little modifications of my own because I dislike the song choises of many stages. Goodbie Tetris B, welcome Super Mario World Ghost House.

Edit:

And definetely Goodbye "25 M" and a very hearty welcome to Angry Video Game Nerd's Theme 8-bit version.
You do know you can turn songs off in the game without any programs, right? :P
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 19, 2010, 10:00:29 PM
Oh I'd love to hear Viral theme.

Also who here even owns Brawl besides the obvious folks retexturing
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: MissingName on February 19, 2010, 10:01:49 PM
I wish I had it.  But I know a bunch of friends who do.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 19, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
You do know you can turn songs off in the game without any programs, right? :P

But not change them to an 8-Bit version of AVGN's theme.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 19, 2010, 10:22:30 PM
Also who here even owns Brawl besides the obvious folks retexturing
I do.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 19, 2010, 10:32:23 PM
I own it.
Haven't turned on my Wii in like half a year though.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 19, 2010, 10:56:00 PM
Same. It's not that I don't have anything fun to play, I just enjoy playing my PC and Xbox 360 games more.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 19, 2010, 11:17:47 PM
The top hat is giving me a bit of trouble. First, I created a large spike jetting out of Wario's head, and now I've got a divot in it, like a dented car door. So, progress for me is pretty slow, Hobo. D=



As for the red/white combo idea, that sound great, a bit iffy because Popo and Nana share the exact same faces. I have heard rumors of a modified version to support different faces, though, I may look into it after my little model work.


And that suggestion of putting the top hat on Red, I'm afraid, is not doable. In order to put something on a character's head, there must already be something there to replace, and I don't know if the Ice Climbers have any polygons atop their heads.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Ben on February 19, 2010, 11:37:44 PM
honestly, if you guys sent or posted some of the textures Id be more then happy to help
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 20, 2010, 12:21:17 AM
Okay. Just tell me what characters you want and I will send it on msn or something.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Nandez on February 20, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
This is very interesting and entertaining.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Ben on February 20, 2010, 02:48:07 AM
Honestly, I want them all.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 20, 2010, 02:49:31 AM
All of our current work, or all unedited .pacs? :/
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 20, 2010, 03:47:14 AM
As for the red/white combo idea, that sound great, a bit iffy because Popo and Nana share the exact same faces. I have heard rumors of a modified version to support different faces, though, I may look into it after my little model work.

I've seen two Naruto ones using that dog ninja person and another person who was not the dog ninja person. They had faces.

Take that sentence out of context and tell your friends.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Drakiyth on February 20, 2010, 03:56:51 AM
I could see a bowser model as demonic as my avatar's face.  That would look sick as hell.   Here is a better picture for you to work with.




This is from my game.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/drakiyth/DrakiythPresents.png)









Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Ben on February 20, 2010, 04:21:07 AM
all unedited.
Where can i find them?
 There are quite a few models that i could do things with
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 20, 2010, 07:05:35 AM
This one.
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3765/al1002191543binout.jpg)

Renard then. =D I've been staked! D= I kept telling them I wasn't a vampire, but damn it, did they listen?!

Suggestion: Blacken the whites of the eyes if possible.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 20, 2010, 01:33:48 PM
Can't edit the white of the eyes on most characters.
Gem, try this.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230551
You're gonna need brawlbox to extract the textures though. You can find it here.
www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=238861
You can also use it to preview stuff, import textures back, and even export models if you know how to edit them.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 20, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
and even export vertices if you know how to edit them.

Fixed.

There is currently no way to import edited MODELs back into Brawl at the moment. You can, however, export and import Vertices back into Brawl. Vertices are the corners of models, so shifting them around will change the model's structure. However, there is currently no way to edit models clearly. The best you can get is moving dots around on a map, and hope you're moving the right ones.


Rumor is that a model injector is well on it's way, once it is complete, vertices editing will be obsolete, and we'll be able to edit actual models.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 20, 2010, 02:53:57 PM
Rumor is that a model injector is well on it's way, once it is complete, vertices editing will be obsolete, and we'll be able to edit actual models.

If that's true it's going to be the sweetest sweet sweetie that ever sweeted... sweets.


Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 20, 2010, 07:47:27 PM
If that's true it's going to be the sweetest sweet sweetie that ever sweeted... sweets.



Yep.
I can't wait to remove falcon's nose and scarf (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6141/captaindeadpool.png).
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 20, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
Can't edit the white of the eyes on most characters.

Aw poo...

I can't wait to remove falcon's nose and scarf (http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6141/captaindeadpool.png).

That... is actually pretty darn cool...
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 21, 2010, 01:22:35 AM
I feel slightly unloved in this thread.  Oh well.


This is really cool project though.  =D  What about Alex, I haven't seen him mentioned in this thread at all?





ALSO:  3000th post.  Right here.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 21, 2010, 01:23:27 AM
Your right! Dangit... where IS Alex?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 21, 2010, 01:26:48 AM
There is no long-haired Italian to fit!
If only that Marin Trophy was there and modifiable enough to turn it into Alex playing the Harp sitting on that rock...
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 21, 2010, 02:15:12 AM
That. Closest thing is ZSS but she has boobs.
And AFL, maybe you could be a palette swap of me, or something? XD
Or maybe we could try turning pikachu into Flaur. :P
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: A Forgotten Legend on February 21, 2010, 03:43:42 AM
Maybe haha.


Yes, I doubt Alex has boobs, or would enjoy being shown with them... er... meh, I guess you never know...
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 21, 2010, 04:45:25 AM
Your right! Dangit... where IS Alex?

Lyn the FE support? Alex would be higly Bishounen, but...
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 21, 2010, 05:24:21 AM
Lyn the FE support? Alex would be higly Bishounen, but...

Works for me. I said Alex looked a bit like a woman once in an old picture.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 21, 2010, 06:11:10 AM
I have to say that I lold xD
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 21, 2010, 10:01:14 AM
But Sheik got a harp? At least in one of her taunts.
Maybe a Sai/Alex comco? Both are admins.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
But Sheik got a harp? At least in one of her taunts.

inb4 Sheik is a guy
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 22, 2010, 06:45:47 AM
inb4 Sheik is a guy

Everyone knows that Sheik is a mummy pharaoh.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2010, 06:47:05 AM
That lives inside a pyramid puzzle that happens to be a millennium years old?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 22, 2010, 06:51:57 AM
Indeed. Better hide any 1000 year old items laying about.

...

...

...

And cards.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2010, 06:53:08 AM
Or rethink being renamed after a winged horse.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 22, 2010, 06:55:24 AM
Especially if your a male of questionable masculinity. XD



But yeah, look forward to further hacking progress.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Luuuuuulz XD

Aherm. Yes. Hacking game. Good.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 22, 2010, 08:27:04 AM
What the hell are you guys going on about?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 22, 2010, 08:28:40 AM
Knowing may cause more trauma than NOT knowing. Also... what about _JeT_?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on February 22, 2010, 08:39:25 AM
What the hell are you guys going on about?

I can only guess: YuGiOh - The Abridged Series.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on February 22, 2010, 08:44:48 AM
Sounds like a good guess to me.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on February 22, 2010, 04:14:39 PM
I can only guess: YuGiOh - The Abridged Series.

Although awesome, we were just reffering to plain Yugioh man.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 22, 2010, 07:08:01 PM
Hey Lucas, you know how you sent me that Squirtle through MSN, and how you told me how to bipass the MSN's constant bickering for me todownload the antivirus fobiding me from getting the file, and how we laughed at it once I got the file by fooling the MSN that Paint was an antivirus?

Yeah, the Squirtle was infected. I'm doing a full scan as we speak and my mouse is all glitchy and stuff, but everything seems under control. Except when it activated, it kind of shut down the pc by itself.

Just sayin', you better get an antivirus yoursef, I think you may have the same problems soon.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 22, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
Yeah, the Squirtle was infected.

No way. I was just recently attacked myself by a virus. But I'm not sure how long it had been since Lucas sent me that squirtle. It was a couple of days ago. If it's Vundo/virtumonde, use Malwarebyte's Anti-malware. Cleared it right up.

You guys seriously ignored setting up a legit virus scanner for MSN? One of the main reasons it took me so long to get MSn was the stories I had been told about how it was a breeding ground for this kind of thing. They can exploit holes in the program and send themselves with any file you send. I have AVG attached to my MSN, but at least it scanned each file I've recieved so far.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 22, 2010, 08:22:21 PM
Eh. Oops?
But I sent it through 4shared. Maybe 4shared has something wrong with it. Because I just scanned squirtle and its fine. I only sent the trainer through msn and I didn't send the trainer to ed.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 22, 2010, 08:30:18 PM
Eh. Oops?
But I sent it through 4shared. Maybe 4shared has something wrong with it. Because I just scanned squirtle and its fine. I only sent the trainer through msn and I didn't send the trainer to ed.

I got it through msn, pretty sure of that.
While you went to lunch.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 22, 2010, 08:54:38 PM
I got it through msn, pretty sure of that.
While you went to lunch.
Nope. That was the trainer.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: HobomasterXXX on February 23, 2010, 06:50:10 AM
Mine would have to be either the Soviet national anthem or Spanish Flea.

Everything looks awesome.
I disagree-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5YjkwpaZCw
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: fruckert on February 23, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
I like Vodka Inferno better.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on February 23, 2010, 10:10:50 PM
Okay guys a few things before and if my conputer freezes again:

Lucas, it was the squirtle AND the trainer that I downloaded through MSN, and my computer froze shoirtly after, even so I'm not sure either of them were infected, perhaps it was just bad timing and there was a virus already.

Also, reading awile back, Lucario's eyes can be painted black, I know because I got myself a skin based on Renamon, the white part of the eye was black.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Darkfox on February 23, 2010, 10:20:39 PM
Also, reading awile back, Lucario's eyes can be painted black, I know because I got myself a skin based on Renamon, the white part of the eye was black.

How? =D That'd make the Renard skin complete! Well... except for the spiky protrusions but what can ya do?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 23, 2010, 10:41:00 PM
Also, reading awile back, Lucario's eyes can be painted black, I know because I got myself a skin based on Renamon, the white part of the eye was black.
If its that easy, go do it! :P
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 25, 2010, 06:43:59 PM
So, what's the progress?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ellie-is on February 25, 2010, 08:30:15 PM
What progress? :P

Eds working on stuff. Slowly. So am I. Even slower.
But its still going. We just have lives. not really Its true, we do!
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 25, 2010, 09:00:14 PM
I sure hope this won't end up like pretty much everything else any Charasian(s) started. I really want to see the result of Wolf transformed into Cerebus, especially the mask part, although my guess is that it will be impossible to do.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 25, 2010, 09:04:34 PM
To be honest, I have been trying to get Hobo's hat to work, but I have tried every vertice and nothing works at this point. I may just have to give it up for now, make a plain Hobo skin, and then when editing actual models is possible, return to it someday.

But I've also started moving a bit forward in life as well, I'm finally looking for a job and finding a place to live. I do have plenty of time during the day, but I'm usually too busy preparing for other things. All it really takes is an afternoon, but I just don't really have the motivation to do this when others things are so much more important right now.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on February 25, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
All it really takes is an afternoon, but I just don't really have the motivation to do this when others things are so much more important right now.

Well at least you admit you lost motivation as well instead of simply blaming the fact that real life took away all your free time like someone did when he could not complete what he was working on.
But yeah, I guess real life is more important than recolouring SSBB characters, too.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Felix-0 on February 26, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
I think Felix (my artwork, not my avatar) would be easier with Pickachu or Lucario. :3

I would upload a pic, but I can't get on any image uploading sites here at school.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 26, 2010, 06:28:31 PM
SORRY FELIX SOMEONE ON THE TEAM APPARENTLY DOESN'T LEIK U.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Felix-0 on February 26, 2010, 06:50:54 PM
You mean Everyone?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on February 26, 2010, 07:39:36 PM
You mean Everyone?

Nah, just NO ONE IMPORTANT.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on March 24, 2010, 12:58:25 AM
How? =D That'd make the Renard skin complete! Well... except for the spiky protrusions but what can ya do?

I believe by painting black that area of the eyes that show as transparent in Photoshop.


ALSO BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP


I wont let this become another Charas Doom!
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 24, 2010, 02:04:10 AM
I have not read any of this topic. I'll just say Roy should be Snake.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on March 24, 2010, 02:18:14 AM
I have not read any of this topic. I'll just say Roy should be Snake.

Dude, since when are you back?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 24, 2010, 03:02:02 AM
Like... a weekish?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on March 24, 2010, 03:36:59 AM
Not long enough.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Linkforce on March 26, 2010, 07:07:11 PM
Isn't Roy a character in SSB?  If so then I think I fit the part!
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on March 26, 2010, 07:24:01 PM
Roy has been replaced by Ike in SSBB. But I think both Marth and Ike were chosen already. And I'm not sure this will continue, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Bluhman on March 26, 2010, 07:33:43 PM
Yeah. What with Grandy and Lucas murdered, I don't know if there's anyone left that mods SSBB here.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 26, 2010, 07:44:14 PM
I think he meant Roy - his character.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on March 26, 2010, 08:31:57 PM
Wasn't Roy ZeroKibyX's character? Although it is very possible that Linkforce might have a character with the same name...

But he said "Isn't Roy a character in SSB" so... I'm pretty sure he meant the SSB one.
Right?
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 26, 2010, 09:04:01 PM
Wasn't Roy ZeroKibyX's character? Although it is very possible that Linkforce might have a character with the same name...

But he said "Isn't Roy a character in SSB" so... I'm pretty sure he meant the SSB one.
Right?

No no, I meant that the Roy ZKX referred to were probably his character and not the fire emblem character as Linkforce seemed to think.
So, I meant the other way around.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Cerebus on March 26, 2010, 09:11:58 PM
Oh, just saw ZeroKirbyX's post mentioning Roy. Nevermind, then.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 26, 2010, 09:23:38 PM
I love being to topic of discussion.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Archem on March 26, 2010, 10:12:17 PM
I'm a regular with that. It feeds my ego.
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: Grandy on March 27, 2010, 02:20:24 AM
Yeah. What with Grandy and Lucas murdered, I don't know if there's anyone left that mods SSBB here.

I'm still alive. 'twas but a flesh wound, but my Wii is badly hurt and currently only plays WiiWare and VC, so I can't really mod that much (or rather I could, but since I wouldn't be able to test it I'd rather not.)
Title: Re: Charas Brawl
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on March 27, 2010, 01:27:53 PM
And I've just been inactive lately.