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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: trymaker on April 07, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
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do you think th staff is to strict.
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You haven't been here when the staff did was too strict. Oh, my buttocks still hurt from then.
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Well there too strict now and before they really need to lighting up.
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What have they done?
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They close my topics just because i get off topic for like 1 post they talk about behind my back and they treating to ban me when i really didn't do much ( i know you think there right because ther the staff but there only human)
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they talk about behind my back
A thread that anyone can read isn't what I would call behind your back.
o no this wus a strikt poast
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'k, I'm staying out of this one. I've had too many internet drama back in the CA forums, they are banning every South American there for teh sake of them being South Americans.
*sips pepsi and walks out of thread
And out of their lives.....*
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Moneymaker: You should be grateful, they are being rather relaxed with you... er... more relaxed than they should at least... You are real annoying. They are locking your threads because they go off topic, they are in the wrong boards, you make countless of them, and they are down right ridiculous. Now shut the hell up before I rape you!
Oh, and I voted No. If I acted like this when I joined, I would have been *** raped by the staff.
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thats kinda harsh to say it like that but way to guy for speaking the truth.
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Jet i never thought you where that kinda a person and by the way the other post i made was not talking to you i mean if everyone agreed it would be like 50 to 50 and thats not good if they keep this up they will lose lots of accounts and this site will be meaningless.
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How about we make this into a fun contest the person with the best Chara battle for Storm from X-men wins th Contest goes from April 5 to April 10
I said that yesterday and i was really confused and didn't know much so don't use that against me.
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Grrkk... I can't resist... Staff peoplez, can I have temporary permission to rape his *** over the internet? Please?
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My God! They suck, and they always act like I have no name. It is so frustrating! You're so right, Trymaker! And they say I'm always spamming, which I am not! I am not a monkey, and I can't be trained like one. They're always calling me a troll, which is totally wrong!
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I say "no", the mods here are very lenient. We rarely ban anybody and I don't see many editing or locking going on. And you multi-posted several times in a row, you spammed, and you kept on about a request that was already filled making PRPL feel like he did nothing for you. Please take into account that we are human beings too and deserve just as much respect. And doing this will not help your case either.
Compared to other places out there we are very lenient and allowing. If we were to be any less strict... well... this place would be 4chan. Really.
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Compared to other places out there we are very lenient and allowing. If we were to be any less strict... well... this place would be 4chan. Really.
You mean to say it is not?
*sips pepsi*
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You mean to say it is not?
*sips pepsi*
Point taken...
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If we talk a little off topic for not even a day the person still will feel helpful now your just making stuff up. Plus when i did things like that i was new and really didn't understand. The rules only made me more confused.If your not gonna thing about changing then this site will never be good becuase you don't care about the people in it. :yell: :yell:
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Sir, please do not be so rude. We care very well for the members. And I am not making stuff up. Tell me, do YOU consider their feelings? If you did then you wouldn't be doing this. It is not right, and it is not fair.
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I'm not being rude because I'm not doing things to hurt people.I only posted things to get things and talk to people a little.Its not like i even talk to them that long you are way strict and you don't even try and make me or anyone feel better you just have to win and its over you call that a good learder i don't think so.
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<_< ....
>_> ....
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(http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s337/SpencerOppressor/Assrape.jpg)
(Runs off to play Starfox 64/Starfox 2)
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I said that when i was confused and to so new so don't use it against me jeez.
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The contest thing? That's my sig, I'm not reposting it :/
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Oh :|
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A good leader does socialize with his/her people and that is true. But a good leader also knows when to put his or her foot down. Now we don't "godwin" a lot as you seem to be implicating. We've been very lenient obviously with allowing you to attack us so.
And this makes me think that your saying you could do better. Arrogance is rude. And another thing that is rude is telling us how to run things. We've lasted this long so you can't condemn us to death... which is also rude. You are being rude and awfully demanding. We're sorry we can't reach your high level of expectations.
I'm not wanting to sound bitter but what do you want us to do? Shine your shoes, sir? Yes sir, right away sir! We are not slaves to do whatever you will... we have our own freedoms you understand?
First impressions are important trymaker, you don't demand things on first meetings. This is only day 2 you've been here. You know what I mean? See... this is what your doing.
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Yeah i understand the leader thing but, I was not being rude i was saying my opinion plus how does this have anything to do with your freedom all i want is for you to not treating to ban us when we do miner things
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Yeah i understand the leader thing but, I was not being rude i was saying my opinion plus how does this have anything to do with your freedom all i want is for you to not treating to ban us when we do miner things
Yeah, I mean WTF. Just because we're miners doesn't mean we're any less valuable. We should start a Miner's Union.
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What you are doing is hardly minor... You are spamming uncontrollably, you are pushing down other topics in the board, you are increasing bandwith(or something like that... IDK, I am no technological wizard), and you are constantly begging for things which can easily be made by yourself...
Sie zetta Sonne einer Ziffer...
We should start a Miner's Union.
Kay
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First I'm not spamming uncontrollable how would you no I'm NOT secong making these things are hard for me because i really get lost when people tell me what to do (Even thought they don't.) Your acting likes its a crime they can say no. I don't know what to tell you about that technological thing you where stuck on i don't know what your saying with that.
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It WAS minor. And this has everything to do with us and how we feel. Now we didn't help the matter, okay, that is a given. Trolling is bad, period. Sorry. But it isn't minor anymore. You've taken one thing and made it a "global" issue than taking it up with the person who did it in PM. So it's gone past minor... *sad face*
I had hoped that once your request was finished you would be satisfied, but what more do you want? I invited you to a game so we could have some fun at the least but you just insulted me... egh... you are rude... and I've been trying to be nice and understanding and giving you the answers to your questions. I really have. I've not been using harsh words, and I have been going easy on you, you know I have. But still you give me sour persimmons.
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Am I the only one that thinks this guy is actually a troll? Like, actually really a troll, playing the part of an ignorant just to rile us up?
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You are way over reacting i mean i appreciate the advice and request and stuff but it hasn't gone global and even if it has I'm not controling the people if they knew it was bad they would stop.(I'm not using mean words from the start)
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Alright, i tried to be decent, But it is time to put this down on the floor, You are complaining about this site when
1) all people have done is try to get you to follow rules.
2) Helped you out.
If you don't think this site is a good resource and are going to keep up this debauchery get the hell out.
~Krizzit
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Am I the only one that thinks this guy is actually a troll? Like, actually really a troll, playing the part of an ignorant just to rile us up?
No, your not the only one who thinks that Sai... :(
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Pesh! The Mods here are very freindly and helpful if you don't troll. Like post sthree times in a row instead of editing.
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I'm not rile u up I'm just saying my feelings i knew it you can only be right you don't look at it my way just because you have most of the control you act like were slaves and when we stand up to you.I don't even know its like your attacking me i just had a request that you just think about being a little less strict and you act like I'm attacking you i mean come on.
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Stop calling People TROLLS first that sounds really dum second it's rude i mean come on
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Stop calling People TROLLS first that sounds really dum second it's rude i mean come on
I call you a troll because you're being a Forum Troll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_troll
Just check the link and iI think you'll see what we're saying.
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Dude, stop complaining on how things are run around here. I have never ever been attacked as you say you have and i've been here just as long. So maybe its not the Moderators ? Could it possibly be YOU? Now leave us alone.
~Krizzit
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OMG See you can never be wrong you always have to be right and never even look at it my way jeez this is the only bad things about this site THE STAFF WITH POWER
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Am I the only one that thinks this guy is actually a troll? Like, actually really a troll, playing the part of an ignorant just to rile us up?
I don't know, but I think we should keep 'im. For the post counts.
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OMG See you can never be wrong you always have to be right and never even look at it my way jeez this is the only bad things about this site THE STAFF WITH POWER
But... those two... are not staff...
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which ones
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Fisherson and Krizzit, they are not staff. They are members.
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THE STAFF WITH POWER
(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3504/he20man.jpg)
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there not the only ones that where mean.
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Most of those that were mean were also not staff.
So... this is kinda awkward isn't it? o.o
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Dudes, do you think maybe this guy is Sai?
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whose the staff then tell me.
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There's me, Sai'Kar, Dragonium, FFL2and3rocks, Alex (he's the founder)... hmmm... and... AceofSpades, hmmm... Bluhman too.
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Bluhman, Sai, DFox, Dragonium, FFL2, Alex, Ace, and me. >_>
Edit: 666th post ^ ^
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Some of them are mean.
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Keep this up i gotta go we can talk about this more Tommy. :Plight:
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ya i no u no what i think trymakr shold b a staff! u no 2 make it moar fair u no???? cuz hes liek new he noz what its like from teh inside
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Some of them are mean.
Some does not constitute as the whole.
Keep this up i gotta go we can talk about this more Tommy. :Plight:
...what?
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Tommy
Busted! I think it's Drace.
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Am I the only one that thinks this guy is actually a troll? Like, actually really a troll, playing the part of an ignorant just to rile us up?
No, you are really not the only one. I've been watching this fella and... I don't know, it seems like he's not that new to Charas. Don't know why...
Also, to answer the question, no, I don't think the staff is too strict. Actually, it seems they are not strict enough.
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Actually, it seems they are not strict enough.
Exactly what I was meaning. We are pretty lenient.
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I just got home from an insane busy shift at work and read this.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Drace, leave already.
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Am I the only one that thinks this guy is actually a troll? Like, actually really a troll, playing the part of an ignorant just to rile us up?
Some things he says make me certain he is, some make me think he's serious.
How the hell has he been here two days and is already about to surpass my post count?
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By trolling/spamming/etc.
And double/triple posting.
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Cant an admin check his ip and see if it matches drace or whoever?
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Oh come on, Drace would never go that low.
He might be a tool for the reason he left, but come on.
Furthermore how can we forget about me?
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He could be using a proxy. And don't flatter yourself, Razor.
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he is obviously a troll. to think otherwise is naive.
He has eloquently hit us with every drama inducing occurrence from the last year.
Crossover fangame
multiple request threads for the same thing
Mods are too strict thread
And he seems to have an instant vedetta against myself even when i dont full on tell him negative things. (you can troll a troll. my trolling is intended as a means of belittlement, whereas this guy coughdracecoughorcoughextreemepein is not only going for the soft spots of the forumites in general, but the more outspoken members that would be easiest to potentially turn people against)
He is obviously a member who has recently left or been banned. As far as i know, aside from meis, nobody has been banned recently. And meis took it like a champ
If its not drace, its somebody familiar with the ongoings.
Or maybe im wrong
i think razor is a pretty cool guy. eh is an active admin, and dosent afraid of anything
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i think razor is a pretty cool guy. eh is an active admin, and dosent afraid of anything
Are you sure you don't watch too much 4chan?
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There are other image board out there.
And memes are hardly 4chan exclusive.
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There are other image board out there.
And memes are hardly 4chan exclusive.
I concur. But have you not been previously accused (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0), my friend?
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He could be using a proxy. And don't flatter yourself, Razor.
Oh come on it's hardly selfflattery to be here 6 years, mod/admin for 3? years, and would like to not be left off lists of mod/admins.
As far as proxy goes: his IP isn't used by anyone else at all. That's pretty unheard of for a proxy.
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Perhaps he's using a different computer?
Oh come on it's hardly selfflattery to be here 6 years, mod/admin for 3? years, and would like to not be left off lists of mod/admins.
I thought you were implying you were the troll. Perhaps you have attempted to shroud it now, hmm? ;)
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maybe he is so sublimely ignorant that it seems like an elaborate and gracefull trolling attempt.
Or maybe a disgruntled member
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maybe he is so sublimely ignorant that it seems like an elaborate and gracefull trolling attempt.
Or maybe a disgruntled member
That is possible. What fools we shall be!
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I feel comfortable with the troll theory, lets roll with that.
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Yeah me too. It can be a little mystery, like the good old days.
*puts on a monocle and idly puffs at a pipe*
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VERILY GOOD SIR HARVEY, I DOTH SAY IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE IS A MYSTERY THAT DEEMS A GOOD OLD FASIONED CRACKING, AS IT WERE. TO THE STEAM ZEPPLIN!
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Yeah me too. It can be a little mystery, like the good old days.
*puts on a monocle and idly puffs at a pipe*
I hope it's one of those kinds that's unsolvable at first but then the culprit tells you how he did it, like in Ten Little Niggers. You, know, for lazy detectives.
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like in Ten Little Niggers.
lol what?
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Ten Little Niggers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None)
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jesus. I had no idea.
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I feel better for having read that.
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You break just about evey fundamental rule ever made when not just posting in this forum, but any forum in the world!
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Guys...
It's me.
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Prove it!
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Quote from: trymaker on Yesterday at 09:54:12 PM
"Stop calling People TROLLS first that sounds really dum second it's rude i mean come on"
LOL! How old are you, Trymaker?
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Yes, I agree with the topic.
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OMG See you can never be wrong you always have to be right and never even look at it my way jeez this is the only bad things about this site THE STAFF WITH POWER
If they didn't have power than how would they be staff? Also is that you, Meis?
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If they didn't have power than how would they be staff?
Not to mention that if the person you're arguing with shares your point of view, it isn't an argument.
God. Stupid.
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I hope it's one of those kinds that's unsolvable at first but then the culprit tells you how he did it, like in Ten Little Niggers.
They made the PC title for a reason, you know.
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Any book manly enough to put "Niggers" on the front cover is a good book in my book.
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Any book manly enough to put "Niggers" on the front cover is a good book in my book.
HAHAHA! Sig'd
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It wasn't that funny. . . . .
On other news, whats up with the giant avatars?
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I complained about avatar resizing, Razor raised the size limit, avatars smaller than the limit are resized and Razor can't do much about it apparently.
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It wasn't that funny. . . . .
On other news, whats up with the giant avatars?
It's so politically incorrect.
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I fixed mine by reuploading it. Linking to it seems to break things.
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Doesn't seem to work for me.
EDIT: Ah, I see. You have to upload it directly instead of Photobucket and such.
EDIT2: *sigh* Nevermind, it just resize it to an even smaller size...
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No.
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I had a bigger avatar once upon a time. While admin, I had played around with the forums avatar settings and uploaded a larger one while all of the avatars were 64X64 I jacked up the forum default sizes and got my avatar. Then it seemed to stretch everyone elses sigs for a day or so. Somebody (osmose) changed the sizes back to normal, and my larger avatar stayed the same size. Little bug exploit I guess. After resigning and then getting the final boot, somebody deleted my gemini-man avatar. Been too lazy to upload a new one.
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I lol'd.
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Any book manly enough to put "Niggers" on the front cover is a good book in my book.
Not really, considering it was put out at a time where black people were considered lesser beings.
These days it's published as Ten Little Soldiers.
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i thought it was published as "And then there were none"
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i thought it was published as "And then there were none"
I think they republished it as that, once the world started to get a little more politically correct.
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Whatever the case, I noted a second person thinks the staff are too strict.
Looks like we're going to have to start banning for disagreeing with us.
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DO IT!!!!!!!!!! **** YEAH
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i thought it was published as "And then there were none"
Yeah, it was "Ten Little Indians" before that, too, but even that's slightly politically incorrect.
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... << *is actually the first female charas admin... despite Sai'Kar's appearance*
Oh hey guys... I hate you all. =] Srly... about both. Laters!
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despite Sai'Kar's appearance*
I wonder if SaiKar is a transvestite... what? No! Don't ban me! XD
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I wonder if SaiKar is a transvestite... what? No! Don't ban me! XD
Executive transvestite.
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Not really, considering it was put out at a time where black people were considered lesser beings.
These days it's published as Ten Little Soldiers.
I mean to say nowadays. I've seen it named "Ten Little Niggers" in recent versions.
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I mean to say nowadays. I've seen it named "Ten Little Niggers" in recent versions.
It doesn't really matter. There are no black characters in the book. Just those little tribal figurines and those kids in that nursery rhyme.
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fun fact
Up until the early eighties, licorice kids, the gummy licorice candies were sold under the name of "n i g g e r babies"
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It's true, Gem!
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also, lets not avoid the inevetable
things like harmless racial slurs in literature made before the times where political correctness was not an issue, are sort of beginning to be overlooked.
Its a tough one to notice, but Im finding more and more that the backlack from the PCnazis of the Nineties is beginning to subside.
People are sort of getting over it.
Except for the Jewish.
I mean, seriously, I have some black friends, and they joke around all the time about racial things, as do i in their presence.
I have some Jewish friends too. But you dont get to make holocaust jokes around them.
This thread is pretty much derailed.
What happened to trymaker? Did somebody ban him, or did he just get upset and leave?
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This thread is probably gonna get locked, thus ending Trymaker's spree of malice.
Maybe he's banned already.
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I'm a fan of political correctness to a point. Criticizing the use of derogatory terms like the n-word is legit (It may have been tolerable in the 50's, but it's not now). Criticizing M. Night Shyamalan changing the decidedly dark-skinned leads of the "Avatar" series into lily-white teens for the film is legit. Criticizing The Smurfs for being a near-sausage fest is also legit.
Criticizing the terms "master" and "slave" in electronics....not legit. Nor is getting a guy fired for using the word "niggardly," which has nothing to do with the derogatory name.
However, it's disquieting how the PC-crazed nineties are being followed up with a huge backlash against anything PC. Now, the n-word is funny again, Jew-bashing is funny again, and you get Michael Richards launching into some berserk racist rant at a comedy club. Sure, there was a media outcry against Richards, but he probably thought he could get away with it at the time, and in a couple years, he probably could.
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I dont think the staff is strict but I think trymaker is a jerk.
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This thread is probably gonna get locked, thus ending Trymaker's spree of malice.
Maybe he's banned already.
He's not.
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honestly, i think the whole thing is a joke. You gotta laugh it off man. People get mad and say bad things, and its usually pretty lulzy.
Tell me that there isnt a group of black guys who have sat around poking a bit of fun at the white guy they work with that goes golfing and wears the goofy shirt.... "that stupid cracker. Hes a good guy, but man, that guy is whiter then the middle of a twinkie"
Or something of the like. Maybe its because i live in a place where racism has never been a problem.
Something that has always bugged me, is that fact that EVERY ETHNIC GROUP is allowed to feel proud of themselves except white guys.
Im a white german candian male. I am living with my commonlaw cantonese candian lady. My best friend as a child was a jamacian. My first employer was a family of lebanese. During my whole life, I have always been able to rely on a bit of racial/minority humour among my cirles of friends.
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Yeah its funny how black people can make fun of others but white people cant. Sucks to be white.
But as prpl once said, "Aren't all Brazilians black?". I guess that makes me black too. So, I think I am alowed to make racial jokes. :D
Btw whats wrong with this DedlellyDeth person.
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its the backlash man.
Its at the point that EVERY GROUP but north american white people can have a harmless laugh at racial humour.
Ever watch a black comedian? Or a Gay comedian? 9/10 of them base their routines on racial or minority jokes. And its usually pretty funny.
Id be lying if I said i havent watched ever god damn episonde of the chapelle show and loled my *** off. Funny crap.
If a white dude of twice the comedic talent were to make these jokes, he would get shot
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Btw whats wrong with this DedlellyDeth person.
Nigga please. XD
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You mean to say it is not?
*sips pepsi*
Okay I give up. What's with the pepsi?
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Okay I give up. What's with the pepsi?
Grandy's a shill for Pepsi.
its the backlash man.
Its at the point that EVERY GROUP but north american white people can have a harmless laugh at racial humour.
Ever watch a black comedian? Or a Gay comedian? 9/10 of them base their routines on racial or minority jokes. And its usually pretty funny.
Id be lying if I said i havent watched ever god damn episonde of the chapelle show and loled my *** off. Funny crap.
If a white dude of twice the comedic talent were to make these jokes, he would get shot
Everything you just said is true.
But -- and this is a concept most people really don't understand -- but there's a big difference between a laugh at a dominant group's expense and a laugh at a minority group's expense. That's why in commercials and sitcoms you often see a black person triumphantly choosing the "better" product over the white guy or the savvy wife getting the better of the bumbling dad. Laughing at a dominant demographic is fighting the power, showing the underdog has some bite, too. Laughing at a minority is just kicking a guy when he's down.
I know that sounds backwards, since we're taught that all groups should be treated equally. And I don't particularly like it...I usually roll my eyes at anti-men jokes. But I don't get pissed if a black comic takes a jab at white people either. Because it's not a threat. They're just psychologically trying to survive in a country that considers them a deviation from the white norm by laughing at things white people do, and therefore stating that they can be abnormal, too.
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Okay I give up. What's with the pepsi?
Well, there were no Orange Fantas in the store. So I settled for this. But that was yesterday, when I actually had a Pepsi.
*sips Guaranį soda*
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I dont get mad about jokes against white dudes either.
But I do think its shitty that if I were to say on TV "You know, Im really proud to be a white german-candian man" I would get bashed for being a neo-nazi.
People would probably overlook that whole "Berlin wall coming down thing" Back in 89
And im sure they would not think to mention the "Protestant and catholic canadian priests housing escaped slave to seek refuge and find their place in a savge new continent" thing
Whereas a black dude can say "Im proud to be a nigga these days" and the association is somehow linked with Mr Martin Luther King.....when he just used an N-bomb and finished joking about black-on-black violence.
There are many Native canadians here. They for some reason get treaty cheques and bursaries to go to university....despite having lived outside of a reservation for 5-6 generations. For some reason there are still reservations, where tax laws are absent. Where federal laws are exempt. where common goods dont have the same federal sales taxes. I am a seventh generation Canadian. My family helped colonize the candian prairies. We lived in holes under the ground and lived off of a couple of chickens and potatoes.
There is just a huge double standard is all, and it bothers me.
I think the first big step in creating an equal playing field in a society is eliminating terms like `minority group`
because believe it or not, giving special treatments to one minority over another,or even all minorities over one majority, creates more minorities out of the majorities.
Its easy to call white people a majority. But HARK....women are somehow a minority now...50% of the whites are women....and are a minority now....but the men are not. But wait wait....gay rights (which I am a firm believer in) so 10% of white men are gay. Another minority.
Now,if youll look, I have created a Minority out of straight white men. Dosent compute.
Ill be straight up here...Im a schizophrenic, bisexual, canadian white male. Where the hell is my special treatment? Where is my university money? Where is my billion dollar lawsuit? Its lost in the wake of a few hundred thousand minority groups all trying to take advantage of a delicate situation
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I dont get mad about jokes against white dudes either.
But I do think its shitty that if I were to say on TV "You know, Im really proud to be a white german-candian man" I would get bashed for being a neo-nazi.
People would probably overlook that whole "Berlin wall coming down thing" Back in 89
And im sure they would not think to mention the "Protestant and catholic canadian priests housing escaped slave to seek refuge and find their place in a savge new continent" thing
Whereas a black dude can say "Im proud to be a nigga these days" and the association is somehow linked with Mr Martin Luther King.....when he just used an N-bomb and finished joking about black-on-black violence.
There are many Native canadians here. They for some reason get treaty cheques and bursaries to go to university....despite having lived outside of a reservation for 5-6 generations. For some reason there are still reservations, where tax laws are absent. Where federal laws are exempt. where common goods dont have the same federal sales taxes. I am a seventh generation Canadian. My family helped colonize the candian prairies. We lived in holes under the ground and lived off of a couple of chickens and potatoes.
There is just a huge double standard is all, and it bothers me.
I think the first big step in creating an equal playing field in a society is eliminating terms like `minority group`
because believe it or not, giving special treatments to one minority over another,or even all minorities over one majority, creates more minorities out of the majorities.
Its easy to call white people a majority. But HARK....women are somehow a minority now...50% of the whites are women....and are a minority now....but the men are not. But wait wait....gay rights (which I am a firm believer in) so 10% of white men are gay. Another minority.
Now,if youll look, I have created a Minority out of straight white men. Dosent compute.
Ill be straight up here...Im a schizophrenic, bisexual, canadian white male. Where the hell is my special treatment? Where is my university money? Where is my billion dollar lawsuit? Its lost in the wake of a few hundred thousand minority groups all trying to take advantage of a delicate situation
In other words, you do think the staff is too strict, don't you?
*sips guaranį soda*
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yes...
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I'm not racist or sexist or any kind of -ist, but the liberal media pisses me off with all of these rights marches and crap. I'm a eugenicist, so I think that disabled people should be killed as a catalyzed natural selection, just like Hitler, however, so you have something to hate me for. I'm a very cold and calculating person.
*sips guaranį soda*
Have you tried BAWLS, Grandy? It's really good, and it has Guarana in it.
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We don't have Bawls over he- oh wait is that supposed to be one of those innuendo things where you get people to say they don't have "balls"?
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We don't have Bawls over he- oh wait is that supposed to be one of those innuendo things where you get people to say they don't have "balls"?
No, it's not. I didn't think of that, actually. BAWLS is like beer for nerds.
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I don't like black-power or brown-power or girl-power or male pride either. I'd rather everyone take pride in who they are as a person and what they can do than their skin color or chromosome.
And for the record...Dr. King made some undeniable contributions but was hardly a flawless figure. His bio is peppered with plagiarism, racy remarks, infidelity, and violence. The Straight Dope (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2449/was-martin-luther-king-jr-a-plagiarist) has a page on it, and it can be trusted since Cecil is about as liberal as you can get.
As for the special treatments...Yeah, it's vexing if a black or Hispanic minority gets accepted to a college over me if I'm more qualified. That would chap my hide to be sure. But the bulk of minorities receive no such special treatment, and while I can't really know about the prevalence of this, I'm sure they all have a bit of discrimination to reckon with.
And I'm still waiting for my special treatment.
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I live in Sweden.
We all love each other.
We all leach on the government.
We all like to be sick enough to stay home form work.
Immigrants usually don't get further than 9th grade.
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Well it's a quota (sp?) that schools, companies & ect have to reach. They need a certain amount of minorities/co-ed to work there or whatever. Why? Because they'd rather not be called racists or sexists.
It's how the world is now <<
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See, this is exactly where Im coming from.
Encouraging one minority to partake in a special pride inducing ceremony like a Black/gay/protruding neck mole parade is counter productive.
I can get down with things like "Black history week" And if they were to have it "Gay history week" but it has to be presented in an unbiassed manner, which is rarely is ever presented in.
Part of the reason for many hate crimes today, is because of the fact that the minorites feel they should be treated differently from others BECAUSE of the differences, rather then being treated equally despite the difference.
Homophobes get insecure because gay men march down main streets wearing G-strings.
Recording artists glorify sexual solicitation, and the selling of addictive narcotics, and expect people to accept it as part of their culture.
Etc etc
People seem to want to perpetuate sterotypes rather then focusing on real issues like civil rights and societal progression.
And then, when its all said and done, for some reason, certain groups are permitted to feel "more proud" then others.
Perhaps the attention could be put on relavent matters like stopping urban violence among blacks resulting from a shifty poverty line and police discrimination. Or tax paying, societally benificial male couples not being allowed to contribute to society as a legally married familial unit, that work full time jobs and do more good for the human race then unemployed trailer-park-types that figure a magical bearded man is going to take favour for them over gays because his dad watches EVERYTHING THEY DO.
Its little things like this that breed intolerance, and set the human race two steps back fro every step we collectivly take forward.
Holy crap, this is possibly the most articulate charas conversation this year
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Well it's a quota (sp?) that schools, companies & ect have to reach. They need a certain amount of minorities/co-ed to work there or whatever. Why? Because they'd rather not be called racists or sexists.
It's how the world is now <<
"Government decides to have 25% women working. It's a big leap from the 4% currently working there and therefore many males will have to quit."
Things like those defies the reason. You'll give women jobs because they are women, not becasue they are good at what they do.
Just an example of course. Same goes for minorities.
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Wow guys. You sure like fancy words. Make a new thread or something.
But I totally agree with gemini.
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You know what's unfair?
If a black guy commit a crime against white people, it's a simple crime.
If a white guy commit a crime against black people, it's racist.
If a black officer shot a white criminal, it's not such a big deal.
If a white guy shoot a black guy, it's racist.
An example of this was when some white officer shot down an immigrant (forgot his nationality) in Montral, some days after, a whole lot of immigrants from there "protested" and began smashing police cars, store windows (as well as robbing the stores) set fire in the streets, etc.
I wonder if the same thing would've happen if it was the other way around. Probably not.
Also, I like how a thread about Charas' staff strictness turned to a discussion about racism and such.
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You know what's unfair?
If a black guy commit a crime against white people, it's a simple crime.
If a white guy commit a crime against black people, it's racist.
If a black officer shot a white criminal, it's not such a big deal.
If a white guy shoot a black guy, it's racist.
An example of this was when some white officer shot down an immigrant (forgot his nationality) in Montral, some days after, a whole lot of immigrants from there "protested" and began smashing police cars, store windows (as well as robbing the stores) set fire in the streets, etc.
I wonder if the same thing would've happen if it was the other way around. Probably not.
Also, I like how a thread about Charas' staff strictness turned to a discussion about racism and such.
Yeah. The white suburban Protestant middle-class is so much discriminated against! I think it's best not to give minorities special treatment, because it's racist or sexist or whatever-ist to even see them as different. Just as two wrongs don't make a right, two discriminations don't make an equality.
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Well it's true. <<...
And it's usually ignorant people who abuse the hate crime call. I mean, yeah there are actual cases where a hate crime is involved but not all the time.
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Well it's true. <<...
And it's usually ignorant people who abuse the hate crime call. I mean, yeah there are actual cases where a hate crime is involved but not all the time.
Isn't the concept of hate crime against laws regarding freedom of thought in many countries?
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Something that has always bugged me, is that fact that EVERY ETHNIC GROUP is allowed to feel proud of themselves except white guys.
Im a white german candian male.
Dude if someone's not letting you be proud of yourself, threaten to make their race extinct.
Problem solved!
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I don't like black-power or brown-power or girl-power or male pride either. I'd rather everyone take pride in who they are as a person and what they can do than their skin color or chromosome.
And for the record...Dr. King made some undeniable contributions but was hardly a flawless figure. His bio is peppered with plagiarism, racy remarks, infidelity, and violence. The Straight Dope (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2449/was-martin-luther-king-jr-a-plagiarist) has a page on it, and it can be trusted since Cecil is about as liberal as you can get.
As for the special treatments...Yeah, it's vexing if a black or Hispanic minority gets accepted to a college over me if I'm more qualified. That would chap my hide to be sure. But the bulk of minorities receive no such special treatment, and while I can't really know about the prevalence of this, I'm sure they all have a bit of discrimination to reckon with.
And I'm still waiting for my special treatment.
I understand you perfectly. My friend deathreaper/Xemnas understands this all too well too. I believe very well in treating people based on who they are rather than what they are. Not many would know this but I am a redneck. I have an accent but I've trained myself to use more proper English and deminished my accent considerably. Around here racism is a big thing. And an annoying thing too! Pfft... stupid people.
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You know what else sucks? Gay pride.
I'M PRETTY SURE NORMAL GAY PEOPLE DON'T RUN AROUND HALF NAKED LIKE GIANT EXAGGERATED FAGGOTS. Yeah, **** you mardi gras.
We need straight pride.
Big parade with no confetti, boring floats and many couples walking around in business suits and normal people clothes.
THAT'LL SHOW THE GAYS.
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True.
But normal straight white people don't have pride party. They can't; it would be considered racist/sexist/intolerant/etc.
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Holy crap, this is possibly the most articulate charas conversation this year
And it came out of a Trymaker topic too!
You know what's unfair?
If a black guy commit a crime against white people, it's a simple crime.
If a white guy commit a crime against black people, it's racist.
If a black officer shot a white criminal, it's not such a big deal.
If a white guy shoot a black guy, it's racist.
An example of this was when some white officer shot down an immigrant (forgot his nationality) in Montral, some days after, a whole lot of immigrants from there "protested" and began smashing police cars, store windows (as well as robbing the stores) set fire in the streets, etc.
I wonder if the same thing would've happen if it was the other way around. Probably not.
Also, I like how a thread about Charas' staff strictness turned to a discussion about racism and such.
Conversely...
If there's a white serial killer, it's a serial killer.
If there's a black serial killer, it's oh god, more black crime.
My mom heard about the shooting in New York and recalled the V-Tech killer. "What is wrong with Orientals these days?" she asked. I reminded her that most serial killers are white. No one will ever ask what's wrong with white men though. White men are normal, everyone else is different.
When I was younger, my stepmom heard about the Andrea Yates case where she had a bout of postpartum depression and murdered her children. "That's why we can never have a woman president," she said. "Women can just snap like that. They're not stable." I was pretty young at the time, so I didn't remind her that men are responsible for the vast, vast majority of violence, and far many more a dad has offed his kids than a mom. But men are normal, women are different. If a dad murders his kids, that's a tragedy; if a mom murders her kids, it's a tragedy and a trend.
I just calls 'em as I sees 'em.
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You know what else sucks? Gay pride.
I'M PRETTY SURE NORMAL GAY PEOPLE DON'T RUN AROUND HALF NAKED LIKE GIANT EXAGGERATED FAGGOTS. Yeah, **** you mardi gras.
We need straight pride.
Big parade with no confetti, boring floats and many couples walking around in business suits and normal people clothes.
THAT'LL SHOW THE GAYS.
LOL yeah, we should.
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And it came out of a Trymaker topic too!
Conversely...
If there's a white serial killer, it's a serial killer.
If there's a black serial killer, it's oh god, more black crime.
Ah, but THAT would be racism.
Yeah, I've heard that kind of things too. But from people intolerant toward immigrants and such.
One thing that need not to be forgotten is that even though the racist excuse is over-used, it is still true sometime.
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And it came out of a Trymaker topic too!
Amazing! Something so deep coming from something so... not... hm...
Conversely...
If there's a white serial killer, it's a serial killer.
If there's a black serial killer, it's oh god, more black crime.
My mom heard about the shooting in New York and recalled the V-Tech killer. "What is wrong with Orientals these days?" she asked. I reminded her that most serial killers are white. No one will ever ask what's wrong with white men though. White men are normal, everyone else is different.
When I was younger, my stepmom heard about the Andrea Yates case where she had a bout of postpartum depression and murdered her children. "That's why we can never have a woman president," she said. "Women can just snap like that. They're not stable." I was pretty young at the time, so I didn't remind her that men are responsible for the vast, vast majority of violence, and far many more a dad has offed his kids than a mom. But men are normal, women are different. If a dad murders his kids, that's a tragedy; if a mom murders her kids, it's a tragedy and a trend.
I just calls 'em as I sees 'em.
I know! A lot of stereotypes make no sense at all. Nope... especially when it comes from a race more known for the thing they are accusing the other of. That is grade A irony right there. This goes along the lines of the idiocy that still goes on today, arguing if Jesus was white or black. WHO CARES, most likely he was neither, and I said that and both sides are like "OMG BLASPHEMY STFU!" Idiots...
I'm actually annoyed with this garbage. I should be used to it, but it seems each week they get a bit stupider. When I even try to argue my case with them they just spout unintelligible garbage so I don't even bother with them anymore. All this racial pride stuff is lame...
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Ah, but THAT would be racism.
Yeah, I've heard that kind of things too. But from people intolerant toward immigrants and such.
One thing that need not to be forgotten is that even though the racist excuse is over-used, it is still true sometime.
What about the following case?:
"I killed him because my god hates niggers."
Is it discriminating against his religion to charge him with a hate crime? Yes, it is.
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If a black officer shot a white criminal, it's not such a big deal.
That's pretty fucked up.
Around here, if a cop shoots anyone, it's a big deal no matter what.
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And it came out of a Trymaker topic too!
It is the ultimate goal of the forces of good to not only defeat evil but to make some good out of it.
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On another note, rape is mostly seen as a male crime. But 1/6 of all rapes are done by females. Many think that this is impossible, because erection is a voluntary response. It is in fact an involuntary response. How you guys likin' my sig?
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What about the following case?:
"I killed him because my god hates niggers."
Is it discriminating against his religion to charge him with a hate crime? Yes, it is.
Not exactly sure what you mean to be honest.
If anyone claim their religion approves killing people of other ethnicities, either they are brainwashed or are completely stupid.
And that would prove how much religions are schnitzel.
Oh wait, that was somewhat a racist comment... oh well.
And even though it might seems discriminating toward this person's religion, it is actually not.
Because a religion that promotes racism would be just... wrong.
That's pretty fucked up.
Around here, if a cop shoots anyone, it's a big deal no matter what.
Yeah, sorry, I meant that it would be seen the same way as if it was a white shooting a white or a black shooting a black.
I explained it very wrongly, my bad.
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On another note, rape is mostly seen as a male crime. But 1/6 of all rapes are done by females. Many think that this is impossible, because erection is a voluntary response. It is in fact an involuntary response. How you guys likin' my sig?
I have looked through pages of statistics and can safely say that the 1/6 statistic is more than a little wonky.
While female-on-male rape is possible, male rape victims are far more likely to have been raped by another male.
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It's a matter of opinion, Dedle.
I mean, is it alright for people in China to kill their children because they had too many and prefer boys over girls?
Is it alright to have an entire village stone a 14 year old to death because you THINK she might be having sex? (I watched the video and it was disgusting how her own father and uncle treated her)
Is it okay for certain tribes to eat human flesh?
Is it okay for a man from Africa to come to the US, kidnap a woman, rape her and claim her as her wife? (This supposedly happened, luls)
Is it okay to say Gays are wrong, despite the fact that they've been around since ancient times? (Geek and Roman Gods?)
Is it okay for old greasy men to marry little girls in the Omish world? And sexually abuse them? While marrying MORE little girls?
Is it cool to blow up homes or public locations killing innocent and not so innocent people just to send a message?
Should religions, which speak of peace and love, fight other religions because THEY feel that there should only be one?
I mean, as we continue to advance... we become our own person. Yeah, society will always play a major part in our upbringing but we're no longer following AS blindly as before. People are noticing changes and they either get with the program or try to stick with the old ways. <<
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I haven't and probably won't go through this whole topic, but um, how did you guys go from talking about the staff being strictz/not strictz to arguing about religion (again)?
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It's not really about religion I don't think.
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It's kinda about personal opinions reguarding certain society traits?
And this is just how we roll, Ace... how we roll.
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We need a life...
Making something deep from... ... ... ... well, we got too much time on our hands. XD;;
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I haven't and probably won't go through this whole topic, but um, how did you guys go from talking about the staff being strictz/not strictz to arguing about religion (again)?
It's the magic of Charas!
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it went from strict staff, to black envy, to religion
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And now it's meta.
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I think Trymaker has given up hope. Owned!
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What about the following case?:
"I killed him because my god hates niggers."
Is it discriminating against his religion to charge him with a hate crime? Yes, it is.
Just answer with "Well, you're under arrest because my God hates people whose God hate niggers."
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Anyone seen the American Space rangers? That show on the TV in GTA ... the latest GTA.
I keep thinking about that all the time.
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jesus was an extra terrestrial