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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Valiere on April 12, 2010, 01:38:54 AM
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Since we've got a lot of Pokemon fans on this forum, I thought we'd need a thread for this.
The 5th generation Pokemon game for the DS will be Pokemon Black and White versions.
(http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0409-pokemon-black-and-white/7705223-1-eng-US/0409-pokemon-black-and-white_full_380.jpg)
Here's a video with some scans from a Japanese mag:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1509_kNCM
(http://img.neoseeker.com/n/4/zoruazoroark.jpg)
Zorua and Zoroark, the only new Pokemon I'm aware of right now.
Further updates as events warrant!
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Ebony and Ivory. Living in perfect harmony.
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Dammit. It's not Black and White with Pokemon creatures. Unless peter monyleux actually is involved in this, in which case it will be vastly overrated and hyped.
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Zorua and Zoroark looks like they can be a dark type, and maby a fighting type too.
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Like
Oh wait, this isn't facebook.
Er... I so can't wait for this. When is the release date for the US? Or is it unknown?
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Unknown.
I'll be all over this. Hopefully I'll have completed my HG dex before then >_>
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Apparently it's going to be for the 3DS.
*angry face*
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The.. what?
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Apparently it's going to be for the 3DS.
*angry face*
No. It's already been confirmed as a DS game.
Disappointing for those of us expecting something mind-blowingly new.
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Well, that's comforting.
Maybe I'll actually buy it this time around :o
Because that 3d city looks like it'd be hell to emulate.
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Apparently the moonrunes on the website hint at them shaking up the formula. I'm expecting the same game I've played five or so times, only with 100 new Pokemon I'll never use.
Also, for those too lazy to look at Val's youtube-
[spoiler=Large Image Ahoy!](http://i40.tinypic.com/4jvq7d.jpg)[/spoiler]
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Aw shucks. There goes the name ideas I had like six years ago.
Seriously though. There was a time when I brought my Game Boy everywhere. Pokemon never left the cartridge slot. It was Pokemon 24/7. Forget looking both ways before crossing the street, my eyes were glued to the HP bar of the shiny Sentret I was about to knock out and shove into a ball.
But now... Unless they pull some crazy miracle ****... I don't know. They're going to have to change things up a bit to get any interest out of me at this point.
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knock out and shove into a ball.
You must be confused.
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No no, he's correct.
That's how I've been doing it for years.
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I hope it still has the GTS PKM exploit. It's so far the only way to send Pokes from one game to another with only one DS (and a computer.)
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I hope it still has the GTS PKM exploit. It's so far the only way to send Pokes from one game to another with only one DS (and a computer.)
Considering you have a flashcard, why don't you just use Pokesav as a middleman?
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I have to agree wiith uberpwn. Heartgold and soulsilver were nostalgic mind fucks. Buuut, black and white better be interesting. I'm so sick of the intro and same basic gameplay. I really am. I don't care about new pokemon, they probably suck, look like **** and aren't even that good. Diamond and pearl was hard for me to play. It was hard to get into. I want to see something different than a pansy group of people with some queer name using pokemon for "evil" that only you can stop. I don't want to see some other professor named after some obscure tree cuz they've already used all the obvious ones. I really don't.
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The most recent "new" game, Platinum, showed signs that they were pushing themselves a little. Namely the Distortion World or whatever it was called, which was a pretty cool mindscrew. But I totally agree that they need to stop sticking to the same tired routine. Try starters with some type combination other than water/fire/grass, or even better, have some little mini personality test that automatically gives you a certain pokemon. Give the main character an actual personality. Give us some plot twists that keep things interesting. There's a lot that they could do to shake things up.
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Disappointing for those of us expecting something mind-blowingly new.
In... Pokemon?
The most recent "new" game, Platinum, showed signs that they were pushing themselves a little. Namely the Distortion World or whatever it was called, which was a pretty cool mindscrew. But I totally agree that they need to stop sticking to the same tired routine. Try starters with some type combination other than water/fire/grass, or even better, have some little mini personality test that automatically gives you a certain pokemon. Give the main character an actual personality. Give us some plot twists that keep things interesting. There's a lot that they could do to shake things up.
Personality? Plot? They have been doing the same routine for over 10 years now, unlikely they'll go far anytime soon.
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Considering you have a flashcard, why don't you just use Pokesav as a middleman?
Using the exploit makes the Pokes I send appear in the Pokedex as well. Using Pokesav gives you the Poke, possibly corrupts it into "hacked" status, and does not give you the Pokedex entry.
Besides, all I use Pokesav for is to check IVs or Happiness. All of my Pokes are 100% legit, and I am proud of that fact.
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Hmm, I heard that they're planning on revolutionize the series with these two games.
Rumour says that they'll have fully animated battle sprites with attacking animations. No proof whatsoever of it except that screenshot right there which looks like it can offer more animations.
Although I really don't see how it can be necessary.
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I suppose they could give each mon a couple poses, but I can't see them being "fully animated" unless they use CGI. With what? 400-something? pokemon in all, there's no way they can afford to go all out on animation.
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And it'd use up too much space on the card. It's pretty much undoable.
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And I don't see how that would revolutionize anything. -_- Better animations =/= revolution
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Can you aim your Pokéballs sideway in Black?
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Seriously though Gold/Silver remain my favourites. The new addition to Ruby/Sapphire weren't all that great and I couldn't try Diamond/Pearl, but I'm pretty sure there is nothing big beside new Pokémons. More Pokémons=/= better, in my opinion. 250 was fine. Unless these new titles offer something revolutionary, something very new, something awesome, I won't get them.
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HG/SS is one of the hugest games ever. You do a normal Pokemon adventure, become the champion, get some credits. Then you do ANOTHER ENTIRE adventure, beat Red, get credits again. THEN you get a few bonus pokemon and a final legendary battle. To say nothing of actually completing the Pokedex and leveling up and breeding the perfect team and rebattling the gym leaders's stronger teams. It's incredible how much stuff they packed into this game.
Black and white have a very high bar to try to beat.
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Imagine a game where they basically open every existing part of the Pokémon world after you clear the most recent addition. That would be something else, huh?
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The only sad part about HG/SS is that Mewtwo sucks, he doesn't even have psychich when you fight him.
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Yeah, I lol'd so hard at his single, weak attack move. It couldn't even kill my level 40-something false swiper. Sad sad.
A lot of the other legendaries do put up a nice fight though.
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I wish I could be playing my SS right now, but my DS is broken... I didn't even make it through Cherrygrove after you've gone back and fought ???? =/.
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0sn7vJL3f1qzzfsfo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1271360277&Signature=4SkwGYpYk4HPEEnSW3tXwDq902U%3D)
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The only sad part about HG/SS is that Mewtwo sucks, he doesn't even have psychich when you fight him.
They wanted to make his weakness in SSBM cannon. Bastards.
I still think they should bring him back and make him, like, a crazy blaster character. Retain his light weight and big size, but give him like the ability to cause huge Psi-explosions and shit. It would be awesome.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0sn7vJL3f1qzzfsfo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1271360277&Signature=4SkwGYpYk4HPEEnSW3tXwDq902U%3D)
Must be a F.E.A.R. User or whatever.
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA(x infinity)
That made my day.
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HG/SS is one of the hugest games ever. You do a normal Pokemon adventure, become the champion, get some credits. Then you do ANOTHER ENTIRE adventure, beat Red, get credits again. THEN you get a few bonus pokemon and a final legendary battle. To say nothing of actually completing the Pokedex and leveling up and breeding the perfect team and rebattling the gym leaders's stronger teams. It's incredible how much stuff they packed into this game.
Black and white have a very high bar to try to beat.
True that. I was strolling through cerulean cave picking up items, not expecting anything exciting. Found Thunderbolt, was like "hell yeah!" and then I came across Mewtwo. Scared the piss out of me! I really didn't expect that. I'm glad he didn't have psychic though. He would've raped my team since I had three level twenty something pokemans for HM use only.
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The only sad part about HG/SS is that Mewtwo sucks, he doesn't even have psychich when you fight him.
Yeah, they really didn't think out his moveset very carefully. Why the hell would you give Guard Swap to an AI that loves to use Amnesia? He's just gonna give your poke that special defense boost!
Not that it matters how high your special defense is when all he uses is Psycho Cut.
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I personally prefer Pokemon Jade myself...
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I personally prefer Pokemon Jaded myself...
Fixed...
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Crappy news update!
Silhouettes of B&W's starters were revealed.
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/pokemon-black-and-white-starter-pokemon-silhouettes-2.jpg)
Apparently we'll get actual info on them later this week or next weekend.
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More Grass/Water/Fire.
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(http://i41.tinypic.com/nx5dmw.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/96c702.jpg)
Bizzare interpretations are GO
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/33esx3n.jpg)
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Turtwig as a ninja and bidoof with a scarf?
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Turtwig as a ninja and bidoof with a scarf?
They ran out of originality.
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They ran out of originality in 3rd gen.
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Let's be honest, the originality of the pokémons haven't been valued that high ever. Not even in Gen2.
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Or Gen 1. Hell, half the Pokemon in Gen1 were either basic shapes with faces, or just normal animals.
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At least then they didn't recycle the same damn Pokemon, a 'la Gen IV.
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Gah, it's lookin like not much is gonna be different, judging by the in-battle shots, starter pokemon, and other general screenshots. -_- I won't buy this if nintendo didn't even try to capitalize on something new.
Honestly: as it stands, this (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=141652) will get released before Nintendo does anything good with the pokemon series.
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I dunno, the mapping looks amazing. The whole 3d effect is more pronounced in these. They started getting there with Diamond and Pearl, but Black and White seem a lot more...
Edit: Drenrin, you're a bit late on that one:
www.pokemonworldonline.net (http://www.pokemonworldonline.net)
Little different though. Just fully read the post.
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Likely grass/water/fire starters is a disappointment. So much for their claims that they're trying to reinvent everything - not exactly off to a good start here.
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I bet they'll be fighting, dark and psychic just for the lulz. (Dark > psychic > fighting > dark.)
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I bet they'll be fighting, dark and psychic just for the lulz. (Dark > psychic > fighting > dark.)
It'd also be a play on the whole "warrior-mage-thief" thing in a lot of fantasy games. I'd like that idea...
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I dunno. I like having those types as the starters...
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As far as I've known , this isn't the pokemon game that is supposed to be reinvent things. I believe they're making one for the 3DS that'll do that.
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I believe it was. But the 3ds is, itself, a step in the wrong direction. A premonition? We'll see.
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I believe it was. But the 3ds is, itself, a step in the wrong direction. A premonition? We'll see.
There isn't even enough information to say whether it'll be good or not. Why are you even saying that?
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I dunno, the mapping looks amazing. The whole 3d effect is more pronounced in these. They started getting there with Diamond and Pearl, but Black and White seem a lot more...
Edit: Drenrin, you're a bit late on that one:
www.pokemonworldonline.net (http://www.pokemonworldonline.net)
Little different though. Just fully read the post.
Huh, well I guess so. I found that other project a good 6 to 8 months ago.
There isn't even enough information to say whether it'll be good or not. Why are you even saying that?
I have to agree. I'm not really excited for it either, but that's because there's nothing to really be excited about yet.
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Yeah i have lingering doubts, but there's nothing other than it has 3D without glasses and gamecube graphics.
Knowing Nintendo though, they'll probably have more features other than that, that 'll make us go wow, both ways
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There isn't even enough information to say whether it'll be good or not. Why are you even saying that?
it has 3D
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Just because it has a specific feature out of others that haven't even been revealed, it doesn't mean it's all bad. And you just sound like an ignorant brat specially since you are not even stating why having 3D as an optional feature is equal to "a step in the wrong direction." Either way, for people like you, it will have an option to turn it off.
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I believe it was. But the 3ds is, itself, a step in the wrong direction. A premonition? We'll see.
This just in: Nintendo has confirmed that the 3D effect will be optional, and may be toggled on and off via a switch. This comes as a result of people experiencing difficulty seeing the 3D effect as well as people who have health concerns. Things like headaches and vision issues.
So, in other words, if you really think that 3D is a horrible idea, turn it off. It's like HD TV.
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As far as I've known , this isn't the pokemon game that is supposed to be reinvent things. I believe they're making one for the 3DS that'll do that.
No, no, it was hinted that things are to be reinvented on the Black and White teaser page
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WEll I've heard of two pokemon games; this one and some other one that's still under wraps. Unless they're the same but one treated differently, which i doubt.
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No idea of what you speak
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Don't expect you to have one.
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WEll I've heard of two pokemon games; this one and some other one that's still under wraps. Unless they're the same but one treated differently, which i doubt.
where did you read that?
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I haven't seen anything about that.... I mean, black and white are two different games...
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Hmm... Now that I think about it. It's true; these are two games.
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(http://serebii.net/blackwhite/starterslink.jpg)
I.. can't feel anything anymore.
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What in the **** is Water supposed to be?
A snowman?
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Sea otter, I think?
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[spoiler=BY THE POWER OF GOOGLE!!!](http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/corocoro-pokemon-black-white-starters-1.jpg)[/spoiler]
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Fiery pig-rabbit? Sure, why not?
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They look like Pokémon to me. Don't know why you guys are complaining.
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I gotta say, those look pretty bad. Hopefully the evolved forms are better.
Serebii says the protagonists are a little older than they've been previously (you can kinda tell from the pics).
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Sad water starter is sad :(
Also the eyeball in the tail of that grass starter will haunt my nightmares.
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What eyeball?
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I think he might be seeing it from the wrong end. Also the water pokemon looks like a snowman
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...Sigh... I guess we WERE missing one final nail... You know, for the coffin.
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I am more interested in the legendary and secret pokemon. Starter pokemon were always bad.
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Totodile disagrees with you.
Also, my post died, so NEW LINK (http://www.geekosystem.com/pokemon-black-white-starters/)
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Totodile was bad too. Because it's evolutions looked retarded.
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Gen. I is the only good looking set.
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Totodile was bad too. Because it's evolutions looked retarded.
I actually liked Feraligatr, even though Croconaw was...eugh.
Which I guess disqualifies it, seeing as not all of it's evos look good, unlike Gen 1.
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Charizard is still the best.
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I dunno, I kinda like them. =D
I might actually choose the water starter for once.
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I actually liked Feraligatr, even though Croconaw was...eugh.
Which I guess disqualifies it, seeing as not all of it's evos look good, unlike Gen 1.
agreed. Totodile and Feraligtr are some of my favorites. I think those two are the legit only other starters I actually like, disregarding Gen. one starters, which win hard.
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Geodude is the best starter
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Dude.
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[spoiler](http://i42.tinypic.com/raq8wj.jpg)
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[spoiler](http://i42.tinypic.com/raq8wj.jpg)
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The heck is that thing in the foreground of the bottom pic?
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Probably a legendary or weak pokemon
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It looks like Entei.
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I thought so too but the hair is too wild and that thing by its head (the white/purple thing) isn't congruent with Entei's design.
Edit: Although the shiny version of entei has exactly those color hues.
I inspected the image along with a shiny entei sprite. It looks like that's what it is, but that thing beside it's head still has some inconsistency.
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Legendary evolutions? Maybe that's what's different here?
EDIT: Also, I like how big the buildings are. It'll make the world seem even larger.
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I think it's a shiny Entei in some sort of battle-related animation, which is why it looks a little different. They did say Pokemon would be "fully animated" which probably means three poses each.
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Guys, it's Entei's big brother. Duh.
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That's just a shiny entei, compare the pic to the shiny sprite from HG/SS and it's basically the same.
Well, the starters didn't look like i expected them to. I thought the lizard thingy would be fire, the quadriple legged thingy a grass and the furry one a water. I thought "Damn 'em nintendo making all slow four legged things grass starters" But they seem to go for the Treecko style again.
But the colours of the water starter is awful. Isn't that floatzel an otter already btw?
And yeah, they don't look that bad.
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Actually... They kinda do look pretty bad.
Just sayin.
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Firerabbitpig.
God dammit, it's even wearing black undies.
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Hogfire
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Crispybacon.
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I saw Pignition on another site.
And Smugleaf seems to be the 4chan-dubbed name of the grass one.
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And, unfortunately, the best we could come up with for Snowman there is "Wotter".
eugh
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[spoiler]
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Oh good. Now, whenever I see the female main, I'll have to consider whether or not I'd "hit that".
Lots of cool stuff, though.
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what in the **** are those on her pants
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what in the **** are those on her pants
Strangely shaped pockets, I think. They're supposed to be cutoff jeans.
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Oh good. Now, whenever I see the female main, I'll have to consider whether or not I'd "hit that".
Lots of cool stuff, though.
Well they're older now, so It'd be not pedo.
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Well, older from 10 still isn't that old.
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16+ ahem but who knows their age.
I mean May was 10 and she had a bigger cup size than misty, who was supposedly older. I think. Point: You don't know what age these girls/guys have.
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The chick looks like she could be 18, while the boy looks more like 12 or 14 at the most. He reminds of a youngster, the one that likes his shorts. -_-
Buuut, I gotta say, I love the maps.
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That could be because women mature faster, or because they want to keep the main characters looking youthful and easily to relate with for their target demographic (children). The only reason they're any older is so that the older audience could relate more easily.
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The chick looks like she could be 18, while the boy looks more like 12 or 14 at the most. He reminds of a youngster, the one that likes his shorts. -_-
Buuut, I gotta say, I love the maps.
Dude, they're comfortable and easy to wear.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QG0Ibob44&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ailMef5RiM4&feature=player_embedded
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Well, animations are much better than I expected, but still not worth buying a new game for.
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This is looking quite nice, aesthetically. Let's hope they can overhaul game mechanics while they're at it.
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Well, animations are much better than I expected, but still is completely and utterly worth buying a new game for.
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Of course the animations aren't good enough to warrant the purchase of a new game. That's never what you should buy a game for.
But the game is looking pretty neat so far. I think I want it.
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I bought Okami for the graphics
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I'll be the odd chick out and say I'm impressed. The animations really make the battles come alive. I wonder if the pokemon will look exhausted when their HP gets low too.
So I guess Zoroark can transform into any of the legendary dogs from gen 2?
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Well, thanks a lot. This could've been done so much worse.
The thing I like about pokémon vs games like final fantasy is that the battle time is actually what you do and not 2 minutes cutscenes before every strong move. They've managed to add the animations together with the moves so it's kinda like Colosseum or Gale of darkness.
I feel sorry for the people forced to animate all this since it's sprites and not 3D but it looks like colosseum only how we plpayers want it to look.
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It they're planning on having all pokemon in some way available for this, including trading, that's 500+ (perhaps even 600+) sprites that needed animation FRONT AND BACK. I don't know about you, even if they had 500 spriters, it's still a mega awesome point.
Also I dont know about the game, but the movie's pllot is this:
"In the future, Celebi sees Raikou, Entei, and Suicune fighting. In an attempt to prevent it, Celebi travels through time to the past. Zoroark transforms into the legendary beasts as well as a shadow version of Ash...They (the gang) encounter the Pokémon Zorua who is looking for its companion. They allow Zorua to travel with them until [a] town begins to be attacked by the legendary Pokémon Raikou, Entei, and Suicune, revealed to be illusions created by Zorua's companion Zoroark. Soon after, the legendary Celebi appears from 20 years in the future due to an impending disaster..."
Sure, it's all garbage, but they always have some inter-connections. at least from the ranger movie on.
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Let's hope they can overhaul game mechanics while they're at it.
This. And more moves that really aren't cheap, but can really turn the entire battle around, like Trick Room.
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I'll be the odd chick out and say I'm impressed. The animations really make the battles come alive. I wonder if the pokemon will look exhausted when their HP gets low too.
So I guess Zoroark can transform into any of the legendary dogs from gen 2?
Now, there are two of us.
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Serebii.net posted some updated info on the battle system, which includes this gem: "With many attacks, when you attack and some attacks when you're attacked, the camera will zoom out and show your entire Pokémon doing that attack."
Got it???
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So it's like the 3D games?
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I WANT.
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Now, there are two of us.
Three. I just feel like lurking instead.
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FOUR! =D
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Here's the new legendaries, in case you missed.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4650554105_6a3caa54c8.jpg)
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I been commenting on gamefaqs and gonintendo on that these don't really give me a pokemon vibe... and that's good.
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I gotta admit that the legendairys look a bit too much like manga/digimon to me.
Palkia and dialga was on the edge of what would be accepted but these two goes beyond that I'd say, kinda like arceus only more.... large?
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They look exactly like what I imagined they'd look like. My brother mentioned "legendary", "dragon", and "Pokémon", and that they'd be black and white (shocker!), and these things are exactly what popped into my head.
Either I'm psychic, or there's nothing to be surprised about here. Move along.
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I like the white one, Reshiram. I wonder how they go about translating that into an English name.
Bulbapedia reckons: "Also, they have mentioned that there will be a big difference between the two versions, aside from the version-exclusive Pokémon and encounter rates." so I hope that is something really big and cool.
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Totally different story lines?
Well, no, they've tried that. The story-changes are little more than organization name-swaps.
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I like the white one, Reshiram. I wonder how they go about translating that into an English name.
Bulbapedia reckons: "Also, they have mentioned that there will be a big difference between the two versions, aside from the version-exclusive Pokémon and encounter rates." so I hope that is something really big and cool.
That'd be awesome if you were a villain in the Black version.
Should probably be renamed Dark version if so.
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But Black people are villains, you can't deny it.
EDIT/Serious part of the post: I like most things about it but the player designs and the new starters. Animations, and buildings that actually open from the other sides are awesome. I like how the black guy is the version mascot of white and the white guy is the version mascot of black. I hope they make the white legendary the evil one, too, if there is an evil one at all. Maybe add a third, yellow one, to own them all. (White people are evil, they fight black people, but the Japanese own them all. That would be a nice hidden-but-not-so-hidden message there)
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I'm more excited about this than the pokemon gold and silver remakes! And that's saying something! =D
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I like the new player designs. At least the girl doesn't look like the chick from HG/SS, where it looks like her mommy dressed her that morning.
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/25/HeartGold_SoulSilver_Lyra.png/329px-HeartGold_SoulSilver_Lyra.png)
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They are ten. Its alright for their mothers to dress them. :P
Like one guy from Bulbapedia said. "I'm simply not a fan of the I-spent-a-few-hundred-bucks-to-look-like-I-dressed-myself-in-a-garbage-can-during-the-80s look."
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I'd rather look like a garbage can than Pippi Longstocking here.
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Excellent logic.
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Agreed.
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Long stockings are uber, what cha talking about.
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She's ten. If a ten year old has huge socks, nobody will care. :P
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Yes, but it's still your avatar in the game.
Nobody wants a dorky looking avatar.
Unless they're weird.
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You can't see the socks ingame, they don't even have legs.
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Yes, but it's still your avatar in the game.
Nobody wants a dorky looking avatar.
Unless they're weird.
You see a hat, backpack, something face-like, hands, and (occasionally) shoes. Who cares?
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They are ten. Its alright for their mothers to dress them. :P
Pretty sure I could dress myself when I was ten, bro.
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You can't see the socks ingame, they don't even have legs.
It's not just the socks. That haircut and hat would make a kindergartener look dorky. And overalls have been out of style since the beginning of recorded history.
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Pretty sure I could dress myself when I was ten, bro.
I've always had a little bit of trouble there. Then again, undressing was always more my speed.
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Pretty sure I could dress myself when I was ten, bro.
Me too, but for guys, dressing is just throwing on pants/shorts and a t-shirt. Girls need someone to help with their huge hats and overalls. :P
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Me too, but for guys, dressing is just throwing on pants/shorts and a t-shirt. Girls need someone to help with their huge hats and overalls. :P
I thought you were gonna say something else other than "hats."
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Yes, huge hats. That's what all the Cooltrainer's are after. Not their underdeveloped, ten-year-old assets.
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Yeah but this is you guys I am referring to.
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Well. It looks aesthetically pleasing. I'm not even going to point out that the Pokemon look ridiculous, because they've looked ridiculous since RSE. Hell, those were the first Pokemon games I played and I thought they looked ridiculous. Except for the legendary Pokemon, but it's also a universal truth that legendary Pokemon always look hardcore BAMF.
And it looks like female main is rockin' the "shorts-that-are-so-short-the-pockets-stick-out"...
Better than rockin' the overalls, I'll tell you that much.
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I can't wait for Gen 6. Half the cast is nude. If it were any country other than Japan at the helm for Pokémans, I'd be concerned about that decision.
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Anyone else curious what the third installment will be titled? Pokemon: Grey sounds really dismal! xD
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Colourless!
Or it could really be Grey. It does sound weird, though. Pokémon: Grey Version. Uhm..
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Pokemon: Chessboard
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Oh, yeah. Lead us into an era of pattern versions. Polka-Dot Version and Zig-Zag Version FTW.
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Pokémon: Shades of gray. Sounds like a pretty cool name.
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Too complex the kiddies will get confused
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Pokémon is not for kids.
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ahahahahahaa
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Lucas is not for little kids.
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Sure he is. You know, by comparison. To me.
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Lucas is a little kid.
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Excellent argument. I'm sure that matters in the rain forests.
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Lucas is a little kid.
Says the big girl.
Big.
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You callin me fat?
This is not off-topic, as there is nothing to discuss regarding Pokemon B&W at this time.
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Hell, I'm old nowdays and I still enjoy pokémon. You more or less know where you got the series compared to Final fantasy or other rpgs. There are few old-school rpgs that haven't moves up to graphics and dynamic battles.
Pokemon will still be pokemon. At least for these 11 years or so.
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Older people can enjoy Pokemon but it will always be a children's game. Made for children, marketed for children.
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You callin me fat?
Yes. I mean, you aren't, but yes, I'm calling you fat.
Older people can enjoy Pokemon but it will always be a children's game. Made for children, marketed for children.
No its not. Too complicated. Children will never be good at it.
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It all depends what you consider children. For me, it's all until about 13 or so.
When I was like 10 or 11 I found that Pokémon Red cartridge lying in the street. I was happy.
I didn't think the game was too complicated and managed to beat it (though I didn't have all Pokémons). Plus, English isn't my main language.
I still like Pokémon, though I didn't enjoy R/S/E as much as I liked G/S/P and don't have a DS anymore, so couldn't try D/P. But when I get one, I'll probably get the Gold or Silver remake.
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Older people can enjoy Pokemon but it will always be a children's game. Made for children, marketed for children.
I disagree with it being a children's game, although that label is highly debatable. It's no more a children's game than Mario or Sonic. Just because it's not blood-and-guts, tits-and-shits doesn't mean it's a children's game. Although, on the flip-side, a game with that stuff in it would definitely be an adult game.
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I like pokeymans.
Bah this thread got injured.
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I started playing when I was six, but I only got 'good' and understood the game mechanics a few years ago.
Though it was more fun when I was six and had no idea how it worked X)
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I was so much better back then. Although, I used to just train my starter to the point where it was a god, leaving the rest of my dudes by the roadside. I always had my one unstoppable guy to carry me to victory time-and-time again. Now, I have a nicely balanced team of guys, but everyone's thirty levels too low to be of any use at my point in the games.
It seems that, if you don't plan on grinding, there's no point in being smart about your training.
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I still like Pokémon, though I didn't enjoy R/S/E as much as I liked G/S/P and don't have a DS anymore, so couldn't try D/P. But when I get one, I'll probably get the Gold or Silver remake.
G/S/P? G/S/C?
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Apparently B/W will be out next year.
Gotta say that game freak and nintendo is working their asses off on this.
I mean, all those animated sprites and it's expected a release in a year.
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Nope, this year. Next year in America and Europe. But the Japanese will get to play it this year.
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Well duh. Localization takes time. Why hold it back for a year just so the localization can finish up for the rest of the world?
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G/S/P? G/S/C?
Yeah, I meant G/S/C. I was remembered it was Crystal when I saw Platinum as a DS game with a Pokémon I've never saw on its cover today.
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I was so much better back then. Although, I used to just train my starter to the point where it was a god, leaving the rest of my dudes by the roadside. I always had my one unstoppable guy to carry me to victory time-and-time again. Now, I have a nicely balanced team of guys, but everyone's thirty levels too low to be of any use at my point in the games.
It seems that, if you don't plan on grinding, there's no point in being smart about your training.
That's a good idea for beating the games, but when you reach the Battle Frontier, your god-starter's level is reduced to 50 like all the others, and suddenly you only have one monster vs. their six.
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That's why I spam the Exp. Link.
Makes all my guys purty good.
Well...my three, at least.
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That's a good idea for beating the games, but when you reach the Battle Frontier, your god-starter's level is reduced to 50 like all the others, and suddenly you only have one monster vs. their six.
Whats a Battle Frontier? There is no such a thing. They did not make any DS Pokémon games, as well. And the new pokés... Black and white... Its all just a very bad dream (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/df/CoroCoro_June_2.jpg).
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Lucas, that's just dumb.
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CHANGE BAAAD
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NOTHING SHOULD EVOLVE, EVER.
Wait, defending Pokemon with this statement is kind of counter-productive.
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Off topic:
I'm ****ing PISSED. I had half the legendaries, awesome pokemans, a ****ing KINGDRA with PokeRus, and I'm the idiot that went and lost my Heart Gold game cartridge.
On Topic:
Yeah.
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Cool story, bro.
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It'd be on topic if you actually posted it in the Heartgold topic. You know, the one you created.
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True, but that topics been lost to the fathoms of... the third page.
<.<
I really just wanted to vent, it's very frustrating to lose all that work. -_-
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http://www.filb.de/1331
Video of game play (battles)
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The Pokémon move? Like live creatures?
Creepy!
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We knew that a month ago!
Whoa, weird visual novel-style close-up.
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It does show some of the other new pokemon, like the equivalent of Pidgey. =P
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I want that pink flying pig thingy.
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The toaster/piggy bank baby?
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Looks cool so far. This game is probably the decider for me on whether I keep playing 'em.
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*gasp* You're back!
Please stay.
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*gasp* You're back!
Please stay.
You must stay if Archem gasps!
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Am I the only guy who thinks it's a little soon for another Pokemon game? I mean, we just had Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum released, then we had Gold and Silver remade for the DS, and now we have two new games coming down the pipe.
I have yet to even consider buying HG or SS, but I'm hoping that there are some intense updates to the Pokemon formula by then.
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I think it's a little early. Feels like Left4Dead 2 all over again. However, I'll still be buying it. Just like Left4Dead 2.
Ultimately, I think I
ll be happy wit it. Like Left4Dead 2.
What I'm trying to say here is that Pokémon is like zombies.
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Pokemon Red/Blue: 1998
Pokemon Gold/Silver: 2000
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire: 2003
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl: 2007
Pokemon Black/White: 2011
Seems all right to me.
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Yeah. The first two generations actually came out in less of a time period. Its a little late actually. It just seems that way because of HG/SS.
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Pokemon Red/Blue: 1998
Pokemon Gold/Silver: 2000
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire: 2003
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl: 2007
Pokemon Black/White: 2011
Seems all right to me.
You're not including HG/SS. This is a critical flaw. You're also missing FR/LG
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Those are both remakes.
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She's also not listing green, crystal, platinum, and whatnot.
Just the core games.
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And as much time and effort that goes into making them and adding to them, you still don' give them basic credit? I say it's not fair to say they aren't new games just because they're based on an existing product. They're not ports, they're a whole new product built from the ground up. When I buy them, they're a new experience, even if I've played them before. Don't ignore them because they're not a new story.
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She's also not listing green, crystal, platinum, and whatnot.
Just the core games.
Green shouldn't be listed. Green = American Red, like Japanese Red = Blue. The only changes are the places where it was released. And the remade sprites. And the translation issues. But still. Green was never released in the US just like Blue was not released in Japan. So. Yeah.
Yellow-Crystal-Emerald-Platinum are the third games from each generation, which still count in the same gen as R/B-G/S-R/S-D/P, but they have a lot of differences which are more than just the custom pokés. They usually have one big change, like Pikachu being a starter and walking on the field, Suicune having a big part in the plot, or you being able to catch Rayquaza, Groudon and Kyogre, and having an alternate dimension with Giratina inside.
Fire Red/Leaf Green and Heart Gold/Soul Silver are remakes, but they are also important because they let players experience games similar to the first generations while having all the new mechanics: FR/LG has Abilities, revamped graphics as well as some second and third gen pokés and legendaries. HG/SS has the same changes as FR/LG, but it also introduces the ability to walk with all pokés on the field, which I bet was pretty expensive, but nothing that Nintendo couldn't afford.
EDIT: God, I'm such a nerd. Oh well. I guess I have to be good at something.
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If you feel like it's too soon for a new Pokemon, that's fine. But if we're looking at brand-new Pokemon games with new Pokemon, then only the games that start off the new "generation" count. And in that regard, Black/White is right on time.
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Yeah, its right. A little late, some might say. But if you think about all the work thats going into the game, it makes sense. For GSC they just redid the graphics and added to the engine, but they were pretty much the same style.
Now they have to make bigger, more complex sprites for all the damn pokés, including the new ones, and then walking sprites for them, and then all the 3D ****, and etc etc. A lot of work.
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Blue was released in Japan as a special limited edition, which is where we got our updated sprites from.
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And boy did we need them D:
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2a77k79.png) (http://i47.tinypic.com/2exr3m9.png) (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr112.png) (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr097.png) (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr068.png) (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr006.png)
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...is that Mew?
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Supposedly.
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Lol. They had a small budget. And awful spriters. :P
Though Mew isn't bad. He was supposed to look like a fetus back then, but they made him cuter. And Nintendo wasn't even aware that he was actually coded in the game when it was released. But Charizard is just - ugh.
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Their spriters made the fatal error of trying to squish characters into a box, as exemplified by Charizard (LOOK AT ITS TAIL!).
Also, I need to post Hitmonchan. Lol!
(http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/greenspr/greenspr107.png)
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He looks like a crab.
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Love to kick topics.
Check out some of the absolutelynotsteriotypical trainers!
(http://i51.tinypic.com/16hrfw3.png)
Also, I feel sorry for their spriters if they needed to do all this for every poke out there. 155 new ones added to the ones out already... That's like 649...
(http://i56.tinypic.com/am5rep.png)
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...fruck.
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Seriously? It's been like 4-5 days since black and white was released in Japan and no one has anything to say about it?
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"It sucks"? :/
Not a big fan. Also, take a look at these very creative and original legendaries!
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/1a/645.png)(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/57/642.png)(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/98/641.png)
Its three different Pokémon. That look the same. They are recolors/small edits of each other as well. Dude. Deoxy's/Shaymin's/That bug thing's/Rotom's/Castform's alternate forms looked WAY more different from each other, and count as a single poké. Why the hell are these recolours a single dude.
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Well I don't live in Japan. Not really trying to spoil the game for myself by reading every little thing about it.
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Seriously? It's been like 4-5 days since black and white was released in Japan and no one has anything to say about it?
Oh? It's been released? Mayyyybe I'll try and get my hands on it and try it out. But I'm honestly just not that excited about it. =\
Especially after lucas' post.
ALSO: According to Bulbapedia, black and white sold 2.63 million copies within the first two days. At $40 dollars a pop that's $105.2 million dollars.... the first two days. No wonder they keep crapping these games out.
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Hey guys. LISTEN.
Download the game when its out outside of Japan. You like it for some reason? Okay, buy it. You don't? Then don't buy it. That simple. Lets not give them money for ruining Pokémon!
Thats just the way I see it, though, feel free to have your own ideas.
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My friend showed me his the other day. The game looks great, by which I mean the graphics are good. There also seems to be a better plot, insofar pkmn games go with plots, than the previous games. Not that we understood the japanese text, but at least the opening showed something more than just a random Gengar Vs Nidorino fight.
Also, the evil team dresses as templar knights.
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Templar Knights are cool.
And I thought Platinum's plot was shockingly deep for a Pokemon game.
[spoiler]I mean, the leader wanted to remake the world in his image, so he captured three lake spirits (blowing up a lake entirely! Those poor flopping magigarp :-[ :-[ :-[ ) to combine their energies into a big nasty chain to tie up the masters of time and space... and he would have actually pulled it off if Giratina, a Pokemon nobody ever even knew existed, hadn't interfered and dragged him into the Distortion World.[/spoiler]
I actually saw that episode in the Pokemon anime because it was running, by sheer coincidence, the day after I completed that part of the game and I was curious enough to watch it. Wasn't that great - much better in the game.
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I have to say, diamond, pearl, and platinum (atleast I felt) were pretty challenging as far as pokemon games go. The Elite Four and Victory Road were really hard for me. It was nice that things weren't just a cakewalk the whole way through.
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I was bothered by how hard Victory Road and the Elite Four were. The game ramped up the difficulty curve to the point where I had to grind up thirty levels, then just borrow one of my brother's guys so that I could beat them. Pretty ****ing ridiculous.
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If grinding up 30 levels at elite 4 didn't get your poké at level 100: you did something very wrong.
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Or very right.
But yeah, I've noticed that I'm always very under-leveled in RPGs near the end of the game. Somehow, I keep ending up at the level I should have been half-way through the game. I don't know if that's a good sign or a bad one.
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Bad. Unless you have 4 white mages in your party and still beat the game. Then, you are awesome.
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I had an Ampharos slaying all of Lance's dragons in HG with quick claw + thunder critts, wouldn't have made it otherwise.
And I liked how each leader had a really strong poké with ridiculous moves. Better than good ol' Brock.
Although I had to get a new poké to replace infernape in Diamond 'cuz it sucked at that E4.
I always have to step up 5-10 levels once I reach the E4 most of the time, might just have something to do with my greedy rpg-nature but still, If my pokés die in the battles; they need moar levels.
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I was horribly under-leveled for Diamond's Elite Four (something like 11 or 12 levels below most of the champion's pokemon) and just barely squeaked by with a victory. Lots of potions and revives were used.
I still can't believe the fire starter is going to be Fire/Fighting AGAIN. Do they ever get tired of that combination?
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I think they see it as a very optimal solution to the fire's low count of SE attacks.
You have grass, bug, ice and steel. And let's be honest, you barely see any ice or steel pokés that needs to be killed THAT bad. Getting some fighting moves gives it 3 new types it can pound beside steel and ice again.
BUT, getting flying and psychic as weaknesses is never a good idea and the dark resistance does little good.
So from having the weaknesses: Water, ground and rock. It gets Water, ground, flying psychic.
From the resistances of bug, steel, fire, grass and ice. Only Dark is added.
So... Yes, it gets some STAB for fighting moves, but gets two very common types as weakness. Worth it? I think not. Bring back ma' fire flying-zard.
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That's true, I did have to borrow a friend level 80 metwo In order to beat them the first time. I still haven't beaten them the second time. I did really badly in diamond tho. I had the worst party I've ever had for any other pokemon game. I thought rapidash would be a decent fire type to have on my team, boy was I wrong. Made the same mistake with medicham. :x
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Bad. Unless you have 4 white mages in your party and still beat the game. Then, you are awesome.
Wanna hear something funny? Before leveling, I only lost against the fourth member by one Pokémon. **** her potions. **** them in the ear.
I'm sure if I had adequately leveled guys, it would have been a cakewalk. Did I ever tell you the story of my first attempt at beating Final Fantasy IV? Half-way through the game, I get stuck because I'm only level 15. True story. I guess I'm great at these games, but I eventually hit the wall.
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That's why we love games with difficulties and / or "gain 1/2 exp" or "gain no exp" bonuses.
The challenge is there, but it can be done.
Being the rpg-underdog and clearing the game gives a damn better feeling than killing the final guy with 5 attacks.
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That's why we love games with difficulties and / or "gain 1/2 exp" or "gain no exp" bonuses.
The challenge is there, but it can be done.
Being the rpg-underdog and clearing the game gives a damn better feeling than killing the final guy with 5 attacks.
It depends. On button mashers like FF or whatever, I am fine with slaying the guy with five attacks. As soon as I get it all over, the better.
But for ABSs or games that require skill, challenges are awesome. Last boss of Sword of Mana was really fun, and my level wasn't very high. Couldn't let him hit me at all or it would hurt quite a bit (his special attacks, at least. My uber awesome armor made of black bunny hide reduced his physical attack's damage to 1.)
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You know what was really good in that aspect?
Lost Odyssey.
Every fight could go in either way depending on who/what you decide to bring/do in combat.
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(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/86/616.png)
What the...
They're kidding, right?
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Haha, wow! I love this!
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Is that a fish? I'm not sure. But I want one. That and the Monmon thing. http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/546
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I want to burn one.
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Some of the new pokés are great like the "shroompig" other's are not so great. So it will be like Gen IV over again. We say they don't fit in at first, but we'll accept them sloooooooooooowly.
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I'm still not okay with how they turned two of the most badass Gen I pokés into weird-*** machines.
*stares at Electvire and Magmortar*
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Screw you. Magmortar is awesome. He has a freaking cannon as his arm.
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C'mon. Do people seriously expect that a POKÉMON, who is like an animal, that evolved in the wild, would GROW A MOTHERFUCKING CANNON? That makes no sense at all. And one of the new legendaries has a rocket launcher. Yeaaaah.
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Wait. Wait wait. Are you sure you want to get into how realistic Pokemon is? How is the cannon arm any worse than, say, Blastoise? He had hydro cannons from Pokemon day one!
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So what? He is classified as a "Shellfish Pokémon". Some real life shellfish can shoot powerful jets of water to catch prey. They don't really have "cannons", but it makes way more sense than a flamethrower arm.
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Only because there's no animals in real life that are made of living fire!
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The only thing I didn't like about magmortar was his face. Too much a' leap from magby and magmar.
by the way. Unexplained evolutions:
Graveler -> Golem, they really look nothing alike. Graveler and geodude are rocks with limbs, golem is a turtle-thingy with a rocky shell
Venonat -> venomoth, venonat is small and fluffy and reminsd us moer of butterfree than the bug it becomes.
Poliwhirl -> politoad, it goes from blue with hypnosis pad to green frog... with frog?
Remoraid -> octillary, wait... what? Fish turning into an octopus(with 4 legs), that's odd...
Trapinch -> Vibrava, it goes from a slow, chunky chain chomp looking fella to a bug?
clamperl -> huntail/gorebyss, clam turns into an eel?
Burmy -> Mothim, I get the wormadam evolution but suddenly it's a moth?
Rhydon ->Rhyperion. I'm not getting the rhydon feeling here.
Snornut ->Gallade/Froslass, I can accept the gallade evolvement 'cuz they're almost related by looks. but not froslass... it's kinda alienish.
Yepp, evolution is a crazy thing in the pokémon games. See it as a metamorphosis instead.
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In Gen IV, they kept making new evolutions for previous-gen Pokemon.....and they all looked like they needed to lay off the onion rings.
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/81/Spr_4p_467.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/9d/Spr_4p_466.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d0/Spr_4p_463.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/ca/Spr_4p_477.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/ad/Spr_4p_462.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/cb/Spr_4p_464_m.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/bd/Spr_4p_465_m.png)
SERIOUSLY.
I still <3 Tangrowth though.
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I actually liked Lickylicky and Dusknoir as well. Tangrowth looked like something the cat choked up.
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Yes, I know it's ugly. I love it because it's a terrific offbeat choice for a physical wall/annoyer. And I love annoyers.
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You would, Val.
I still hold out hope for an addition to the Koffing family tree. Still holdin' onto the dream!
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You would, Val.
I still hold out hope for an addition to the Koffing family tree. Still holdin' onto the dream!
What could they probably do with weezing? Grow another head and give it tri-attack?
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They sure as hell couldn't make it any uglier.
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Bahahahahahahahahaha
It never gets any farther than Weezing because it explodes.
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I use both Magmortar and Tangrowth in my WiFi team. Gotta say, I love the Sunny Day abuse.
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Rhyperion makes me sad. =(
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I actually like Electivire.
He's kinda scary looking.
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You guys like weird pokemon.
You would all lose to my Garchomp n Froslass team.
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Oh yes, Garchomp. Such a unique and totally not cheap choice.
(However, it would get owned by Tangrowth)
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So, this is a massive but related topic kick. And I didn't feel like a new topic was necessary.
AMERICAN RELEASE is apparently April 17th (according to Bulbanews. Which is two days before my birthday. I enjoy this coincidence. A lot.
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Possible_Black_and_White_American_release_date_revealed
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Hehehehe.
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Neat. I might actually be motivated to move past the first gym now.
Though most likely not. Jap2Eng problems aside, it burns my eyes.
EDIT: Major spoilers. Get used to the first three or four Pokemon because those are all that you'll be seeing up until the second gym.
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Oh my. What ones?
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Minus the starters, every single trainer (including the leader(s) of gym 1) will possess a party drawn from the following Pokemon:
Minezumi, Yoterrie, and Choroneko
The gym leader(s) also get one of the following based on the one you fight:
Yanappu, Baoppu, Hiyappu.
That's it until (I assume) the second gym.
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Oh wow.
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I've been plugging away at this. The amount of time you run into and fight Team Plasma, your rivals and this faggot kid named "N" is amazing. And not amazing in a good way. It gets old so quick. I will say, the third gym gave me a bit of a headache, but every gymleader after him was a cakewalk. Namely cuz there's so many trainers to fight, and you fight your rivals so many times, my pokemon were consistently 3 to 5 levels higher than the gyms' trainers and were on par with the leaders without having to grind AT ALL. I'm kind of glad there isn't much of a grind fest, but the lack of challenge is disappointing, here's to hoping the elite four aren't a bunch of whimps.
I also found this guy...
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/00/Spr_5b_596.png)
And I wuv him.
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I really want this one:
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/4/4b/587Emonga.png/220px-587Emonga.png)
And this one:
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/f/ff/613Kumasyun.png/180px-613Kumasyun.png)
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Parinichnu bastard nr 2, we really didn't need another one.
I love the Pendra bug. The design is great compared to earlier bugs.
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Dren, I fail to see your point. I never grind, I just fight all trainers, and my Pokés are ALWAYS a LOT of levels higher than Gym leaders and trainers. But of course, by "pokés" I mean my overpowered Charizard/Typhlosion/Blaziken.
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Well, I made it through the game with five pokes. But I usually end up having to gring atleast a little. I just feel like the fourth gen was a lot harder.
Tho, now that I've made it to victory road, I may have to end up grinding a bit.
Also, HMs aren't even important anymore... Thank god.
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UPDATE:
Actual US release date is March 6th confirmed by Nintendo.
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Speaking of the release date. I just picked up my copy of Black.
I love it.
Although, Lillipup is completely beast compared to Purrloin.
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My brother and I are about to go pick the games up. I'm getting White.
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I wanted White, but all my friends got it, so I got Black.
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I didn't really care which one I got, so I talked it over with my brother. I ended up choosing White. Then I found out about White Forest, and had to threaten him with a knife to stop pestering me to change my mind.
Still, that Black City looks awfully enticing...
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I wanted some of the version exclusive from White, but I;ll just trade with my friends.
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I totally didn't realize that today was the release date! Damn it, if it weren't raining buckets out, I'd go to get my copy right now. =\
I still haven't decided on black or white, though. I was thinking I'd get Black, but I still don't know.
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My Tepig is named Squee.
Back to my glorified cockfights.
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I already played white, so I'm def getting black. Can't wait for the legit translation.
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I got White for my brithday, haven't played much though.
I picked White because it got that Zekron thingy, Dragon electric soudns awfully neat after all.
Went with Snivy as the starter, found out that Tackle's power is raised from 35 to 50, so any normal type pokes are fated to kick any non-normal types butts at the start of the game.
Vine whip with Snivy deals less damage than Tackle so...
Purrloin have scratch and the poke is dark. Scratch < Tackle. And everyone else are normal which kicks the power of tackle to 75(if my math is any good these days).
So far no old pokés in the game. Which is pretty much a miracle. I have my hopes for this game, all new which is neat. But I'm still a bit concerned about the story with these self-righteous Team plasma. Not sure if this is what pokemon players expect.
PS: loves the roggenrola poké, it looks like a rock with an arsehole. But it's a nice change from Geodude.
Oh, and. This game is a pokémon game, so if you don't like pokémon. Don't get it.
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This is probably the first game since blue where I'm not going to choose the water starter. I'm thinking that I'll go for Snivy instead.
...I really want to buy this game now. ><
And hm...Zekron interests me. Maybe I will go for White after all, even if it's the same one that everyone else seems to be choosing. XD
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I got White for my brithday, haven't played much though.
I picked White because it got that Zekron thingy, Dragon electric soudns awfully neat after all.
Went with Snivy as the starter, found out that Tackle's power is raised from 35 to 50, so any normal type pokes are fated to kick any non-normal types butts at the start of the game.
Vine whip with Snivy deals less damage than Tackle so...
Purrloin have scratch and the poke is dark. Scratch < Tackle. And everyone else are normal which kicks the power of tackle to 75(if my math is any good these days).
So far no old pokés in the game. Which is pretty much a miracle. I have my hopes for this game, all new which is neat. But I'm still a bit concerned about the story with these self-righteous Team plasma. Not sure if this is what pokemon players expect.
PS: loves the roggenrola poké, it looks like a rock with an arsehole. But it's a nice change from Geodude.
Oh, and. This game is a pokémon game, so if you don't like pokémon. Don't get it.
The storyline is terrible. Absolutely dreadfully nonsensical. And, all the pokes in the game are originals. But you can run into old pokemon after you beat the game very easily. You can catch pokemon like Metagross, Tyrannitar, Tangrowth, etc. And they're in the mid 50s when you get 'em. I caught a level 65 Metagross... ****ing awesome!
Also, TMs can be used indefinitely! I really don't care about the plot when the game play is so much better and less tedious.
ALSO, the last person you fight (not giving away details) is incredibly hard. I was stuck on them for a long while. I just didn't have the right team to take him down.
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Since when has story mattered much in a pokemon game? As long as the game allows me to go OCD for a month in my frantic quest to catch 'em all, I'll be perfectly happy. XD
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Diamond/Pearl/Platinum were on the verge of developing a plot. I actually started o_Oing when I had to do the whole Spear Pillar event.
I'm having trouble getting excited enough to go buy white or black. :/
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So far, I have found it really annoying when I find Pkmn Trainer N, or your two friends just randomly. It happens allll the time so far. Haha. I almost lost once because I had just got out of a tough battle with a Lillipup.
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Yeah, that... never... stops...
and yeah, story in pokemon has always been a joke. But this one is really bad. You can tell they tried real hard, but they failed miserably.
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Oh, boy. Well, I'll still play through it anyway before I make any judgments. At least I'll be able to imagine my character making smartass remarks along the way. It makes Pokemon (and other silent protagonist RPG's in general) much more bearable.
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I'm not even going to try this. Too many cons for the pros to even matter.
Also, infinite TMs sound silly. Plot sounds silly and like its trying way too hard. The crappy animations sound bad. The pokémon look bad. I don't even know anymore. I stopped telling people that I love Pokémon. >_<
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I'm enjoying it so far. I also didn't know about the infinite TM thing. This is good, because I always horded mine, and they sat around forever, never being used. Now, I'll actually get some use out of them. I also like all the new Pokémon. They're fantastic. The feeling that I literally don't know what's around the corner makes it feel fresh to me. No Geodudes and Zubats molesting me whenever I enter one of the hundreds of caves? Love it! Rattata and Pidgey aren't trying to assault my ankles when I enter some grass? Excellent! Magikarp? **** that guy! And all the neat new things, like 3D trees and the clock and everything make it feel so good to play the game! So whatever.
Lucas, get off your high horse. It's Pokémon. It's basically the same, even though it's all new. It's like a for real sequel.
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Lucas, get off your high horse.
I hear Lucas likes to ride horses. Or rather, he likes to ride donkeys. Pastel-colored asses with third legs.
I think my brain just blew up.
So the old rod doesn't catch Magikarp anymore? That's interesting. How am I going to amass my army of magikarp who know only splash and tackle now? =(
I'm still eager to see what changes the new game brings. So how many of the old pokemon did they include in this game? Does anyone know?
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Magikarp? **** that guy!
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs32/f/2008/212/c/4/Magikarp_redux_by_chaoskomori.jpg)
AHEM
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Yeah, I'm enjoying the next battle system a lot. And the menus are very nice to look at and its hard for me to play Pearl. *shudders at the awkwardness of the menus in Pearl*
I like the new pokemon, too. Except Patrat. Its like a Rattata, only more awkward.
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I called mine "Skurt". It's like some sort of perversion of "scout", which is what he looks like he's doing.
And from now on, I'm pronouncing "doing" the same way as "boing".
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Just started playing my perfectly legal copy of Black. Liking it so far.
Can't wait to buy it.
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Bahaha.
I just got my *** handed to me at the second gym by her Watchog. -_-"
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Bahaha.
I just got my *** handed to me at the second gym by her Watchog. -_-"
I totally hated that Watchog. No idea what move retaliation is but it hurts like hell.
Also, like Archem I've always hoarded my TMs, since I don't want to waste them. I only used a TM when I had more than one - or if they could be bought.
Oh btw, anyone got that Vicinti Pokémon from the WiFi yet? Gotta reroute the network before my DS lite can catch any internets so.
And on a side note, that N character and the team keeps saying that catching pokémon is bad. I'd really like to know how they feel about my Platinum collection of 489 pokés. Which on another sidenote makes me wonder when Deoxys, Darkrai and Arceus will be available to get.
PS. anyone else bothered by the fact that they changed the "NEW move learned"-message.
It used to be "1...2...3...Poof! Snivy forgot how to use Vine whip and learned how to use Leaf Tornado!" But it's different now, and it's all wrong in my head.
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Call me a nostalgia fag, but I don't like the new battles with fancy effects. Ever since Gen III, I can't stand waiting hours for my poké to use something silly like grow or watergun. It was so much easier on Gen II when they used simple, fast effects that looked cool and didn't take ages to finish. =/
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I mostly turn all the effecs off, especially when grinding. I only turn them on for epic gym leader fights and such.
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^ I didn't event turn on battle animations until the elite four.
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I got the event, but I'm not anywhere near getting Victini I'm afraid. I also got the wifi event with Celebi on my Pearl.
I got the guide, and it says that Retaliate is this:
"If an ally fainted in the previous turn, this attack's power is doubled."
So, yeah, after her Herdier goes, you should probably put out someone you really don't mind fainting. haha. Also, I've played for 7 hours, and my average level is only 14. -_-
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gahh i want this soo bad. stupid lack of money
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You guys and your complaints.
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That NPC sure didn't lie when she said that beating the living crap out of a Audino was rewarding. A wooping 1074exp for a lvl 13 Audino! Too bad they are so rare.
Love Roggenrolla and Ventipede btw, the design and the fresh feel is great. I know that the thing is pretty much a geodude. But it's NOT a geodude and that makes it 5x as attractive. So sick of having a Golem in my Elite four party at the end of each generation.
And I got the Celibi for my Pearl and platinum. Just lack the thing called "2 ds so you can transfer stuff infrareddy". Apparently one would get some unique poke when trading it to B/W.
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*Sigh*...I need to get this game already before I miss out on too many wi-fi things. That's what happened with diamond. I got it way after everyone else and couldn't get any of the event-exclusive pokemon.
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The first Wifi thing is to april 22 or something, a pass to the island with pokémon nr 0.
Still haven't reached any place where I can use the ticket though.
Actually not that far into the game at all, beat the second gym not long ago.
My current party is:
Servine, Herdiere, Roggenroll, Woobat, Ventipede and Tampyle
Didn't like the water monkey I got earlier to be honest, Purrloin was a dissapointment, Patrat didn't have anything on Lillipup. Lillipup is like Starly with legs. The attack power just rises every level - loves it.
Edit: I finally managed to bag that event pokémon, but it did put up a good fight against my balls. Not the easiest catch.
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My party is Oshawott, Lillipup, Pansear, Blitzle, Roggentola, and Woobat.
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I should probably get Black. Actually, I should've thought of that for my birthday yesterday.
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Look up shaking grass on bulbapedia, understanding that makes it easier to run into rare pokemon like audino.
Also, Tampyle is an awful name...
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Yeah, it really, really is.
And that shaking grass thing seems somewhat obvious. Bitches be grindin' on that grass. Seriously, +500 XP off of one sub-20 Pokémon? Crazy.
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Crazy awesome. Seriously, who wants to spend hours grinding? This is why I like black and white. Far more user-friendly
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Also, Tampyle is an awful name...
Oh, god. Did the localization team even bother to think this one through?
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(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/70547456_0563bb3e8e.jpg)
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...Its Tympole...
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(http://www.electrictime.com/s/i/installation/img_instl_38.jpg)
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Afl, whoops! So 'tis!
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Archem, my friend had to explain that picture to me. haha
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Which picture?
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The clock. I got the tampon one pretty quickly. haha
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It's a town pole.
And yes, my spelling of new pokémon names aren't all 100%, still learning. Also, I named my Tympole Flemeth, so yeah...
Also, Watchog is the new Golbat. Confuse ray and hypnosis. Just be thankful they don't come as often as Golbats.
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It's a town pole.
You mean a time pole? As in, a clock on a pole?
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I wish it was called Tampole. Gamefreak should just give up on original names and just put a bunch of subtle innuendos in their game.
Tampole
Tehpig
Rockock
Catpuss
Things like that
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Also, Watchog is the new Golbat. Confuse ray and hypnosis.
Oh lord yes. Unfortunately I faced a whole bunch of them recently... *shudders*
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My First Impressions
Let me start by saying this: "New Pokemon game, woo hoo!"
That being said, I've noticed that if you can accept the very different 3rd Generation games and were able to accept the insanity of the 4th, it can usually be agreed that, more or less, the games got better as they went on. The second is better than the first, the third is better than those, and so on. Right? I've played Pokemon Black and White for a solid 3 hours and while it's fun to be back in a familiar world and I was fully accepting of the idea of a game completely detached from the previous 4, I can't honestly say that I like this one better than Diamond and Pearl.
I know it's only been 3 hours, but the fact that I even stopped playing a Pokemon game says a lot. I hated Mass Effect, but that didnt' really settle in until after I beat it. But with Pokemon Black and white, I knew from the get go that I was into some weird, slightly above average entertainment. I was young when I got Yellow and so I probably wasn't attached to it. I got Gold on a school night, but I was up way passed my bedtime with that one. By the time Generation 3 came around, I had "grown up" and no longer even liked Pokemon. But I was soon stealing/borrowing my brothers' copies of Sapphire and Emerald to play. They were drastically different from the later games. Gold and Silver were like expansion packs. Rattatas and Caterpies still plagued the first few areas in those games, but with Gen III its like a whole new world.
Diamond was something special. all the subtle hints to the GS remakes were fun, and there were enough nods to Gens 1&2 that I didn't feel to alienated. I actually bought this one, unlike with Gen III, but I don't really remember much about my experience.
So onto my early impression of this game. The opening sequence was bat-**** retarded. I won't spoil it not as a story point (it's just hilarious), but you'll be saying "what the hell?" for the first 30 minutes. The acquisition of your starter Pokemon is usually the same with a bit of a twist, but this was ridiculously unique to the point of obscurity. The inclusion of a second rival was something though, but that deserves a bit of an in-depth look.
In Gen I, there was Blue. He showed up at about six unexpected times to battle and that was it. In Gen II there was Silver. A bit of a story was added other than the randomness of simply being a rival. It would have been nice to see him behind bars though.
In Gen III and IV however, you got 2 psuedo rivals. One was the opposite gender character than the one you chose, and the other was a normal boy who had his own journey going on. These were two separate kinds of rivals. One to give you tips, hints, and valuable key items, and another to battle or team up with. I actually liked the idea. It was implemented into the GS remakes, although you can tell it was just shoehorned in at the last minute. Lyra constantly called to tell me that her Marrill evolved, but it never did.
In Gen V however, we get two unique characters to form a trio of friends with the hero. It kind of reminded me of the gang from Kingdom Hearts. But while Riku, Kairi, May and that blond kid from Diamond go off on their own quests, Cheren and Bianca are a different story. They don't go anywhere! And they just want to battle half the time. One time Cheren shows up at the entrance to a town, shows you to the PKMN Center, and gives you a berry. For absolutely no reason. How much time and effort went into programming all these rival encounters?
Technically they're not always with you. Like rivals of the passed they come and go. But they don't go very far and they certainly don't stay away for two long. Literally at every junction on my journey I run into one or both of my rivals. At the pace of a veteran player, I ran into Cheren and Bianca at what seemed like every other minute. Ive literally met them each more times than I battled Blue in Yellow. And its been three hours.
This time around, it feels like the prologue to Kingdom Hearts II. Bianca and Cheren are actually presenting a long tutorial about the new and old features of the game. But its the old parts that naturally bug me. This is the fifth (sort of) game that's come out. Sequels are supposed to show you something familiar and new, and Pokemon has done that time and time again. But ever since the prototype of Gen II was changed to "Pokemon Gold and Silver" from "Pokemon 2: Gold and Silver" I've noticed something.
There really hasn't been a literal sequel yet. We're playing "versions" or in some cases "special editions" of the same game. So naturally each game is going to explain the same thing. This isn't Pokemon 5, its the 16th version of the original.
Okay back to serious stuff. There just seems like there is a alienation from the game and its older fans. All of the new innovations in Black and white, from the titles to the morally/ethically confusing plot of the villainous team, point to one thing. This IS pokemon from the older fans. So why is the tutorial so spread out this time around? Beats me.
There should be a sort of "Pokemon Academy" where you take courses that go through the basics of capturing pokemon all the way to what ever weird connectivity feature I usually never use. And if you're a veteran player, you can just drop out and get onto your adventure. "I'm Professor juniper," she says. "You've been to the pokemon world before? Alright, come on in and start getting badges."
These first 3 hours weren't just about annoying tutorials and rivals that never really leave. I noticed something strange around the time I was in the first gym. In Gen I, by the time you met brock, you had gone through a couple of routes, including an off-sequence one where you could catch Nidorans. Later, you walked through a forest crawling with bugs and birds and in some cases even Pikachu himself.
The first gym in Black and white is separated by a town and two routes around it. On these routes you'll meet Purrloin, Patrat, and Lollipup. Get used to them, because they're going to be the only pokemon you see for a very long time. Seriously, every trainer, even the one in the gym and the leader himself have one of these guys. It gets old fast. Especially since I had two of those guys in my party anyway. Also the advantage of picking the Grass or Water starter is done away with. Now you basically get two starters. The first one from the professor, and the other is given by a random girl on the street in an area the gym leader tells you to go and train at. This pokemon is the exact type you need to defeat whichever of the three gym leaders you're up against. And they're all from this same family of elemental monkeys. These same monkeys are used by three different preschoolers you get to battler later. So there is little in a way of variety in the first few hours.
I was honestly excited when I heard these games would be set far away, with a world of more than 150 new creatures. No more zubats and tentacruels. I decided not to use the internet's faqs/wikis for at least my playthrough. But who needs to when there are only 3 pokemon in the first part of the game? Why not add trainers with pokemon from areas we haven't been to yet, but are close by? Like bug catchers come out of that forest or something.
I know this is only based on 3 hours of gameplay, but the fact that I have this much negativity to say about something like pokemon based on just three hours has to say something. Again, mass effect was much worse. The dialogue was so obviously designed to go with any random answer, scrolling through your menu every time you killed something just to equipped an add on for +2 damage took you out of the action, and the quests are beyond idiotic and are more suited for a game where you play a security guard at an airport terminal.
But I didn't really notice anything wrong with Mass Effect until after I beat it. Over 11 days and 18 gameplay hours. For those of you who think I rushed it, I just skipped the awful missions (95%) and saved the good ones for after I beat it... but there is no continue function and replaying the exact same plot with horrific differences in the main "character" is not worth it.
But back to Pokemon. It's not an awful game. but I found way to much wrong with it in the first few hours. The Plasma plot actually brings up a very important issue to the entire Pokemon universe, but it's executed kind of weird. The rivals are annoying and it takes a while before any fun pokemon show up. But when they do, boy is it a treat. Every pokemon is fully animated now and they feel like they cold star in their own sNES platformer. And it's going to be fun to see a completely new world. Hell I wouldn't be surprised If it turns out with was a game originally set in a different universe that Nintendo demanded be made into a Pokemon game to milk the franchise. I would not have bought this game if it didn't have the pokemon name on it... That's actually a lie. I'm looking to get some other fun DS titles, if anybody knows any good RPGs or Pokemon knock offs. not The World Ends With You. Or Nostalgia.
So, now I must ask. What becomes of my woes? I know the variety in monsters will jump up, and the stories have never really been great.
but seriously! Do these rivals ever leave you alone?
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Lovely review, man.
I'm sure I'd feel the same way. Or maybe more annoyed, since I liked the old games so much. That's why I'm not even going to try these games.
Nintendo tried something new. It didn't work. I'll forgive them if they start acting like they did with that Mario live action movie (Wait, what, oh, no, that isn't cannon, none of those things ever happened, let's move on, please!) and give us some good games, with the old pokés. But I honestly doubt they will.
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I love constantly being pestered by them. It's almost like having friends!
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In Gen I, there was Blue. He showed up at about six unexpected times to battle and that was it.
What? Dude was the champ. He was the freaking final boss! It was back in the glory days, when the champ wasn't some smug adult wandering around being better than you are. Blue was a total douche, but you got to stomp him in the end, and that was way more satisfying than just beating Lance or Cynthia in some boring friendly contest.
There really hasn't been a literal sequel yet. We're playing "versions" or in some cases "special editions" of the same game. So naturally each game is going to explain the same thing. This isn't Pokemon 5, its the 16th version of the original.
Gold/Silver truly does feel like a sequel to Red/Blue, especially as the game begins to make progress and references get thick. I'm talking Lance and the Rockets here. And I'm sure we all remember the first time we were approaching the Elite Four and some NPC said "Congratulations! You've taken your first step into Kanto!" and we were all WAIT F'ING WHAT?! and pulled up the map and SURE ENOUGH, whole new world map! This made the ride on the SS Aqua one of the most flat-out enjoyable things in gaming history - you KNEW where you were going! They even made the final final boss a respectable attempt at the Red/Blue player. THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S THE COOLEST SEQUEL MOVE EVER. You fight yourself from the first game in the second game! Why don't more games do this?!
But anyway, just because they teach you the basics doesn't mean it's a new version of the old game. It's just a way to make sure that players that possibly didn't play the first games aren't totally lost. There's the "stand alone" sequel vs the "left out in the plot cold" sequel theory, and I think Pokemon is wise to go with the first one.
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What? Dude was the champ. He was the freaking final boss! It was back in the glory days, when the champ wasn't some smug adult wandering around being better than you are. Blue was a total douche, but you got to stomp him in the end, and that was way more satisfying than just beating Lance or Cynthia in some boring friendly contest.
Gold/Silver truly does feel like a sequel to Red/Blue, especially as the game begins to make progress and references get thick. I'm talking Lance and the Rockets here. And I'm sure we all remember the first time we were approaching the Elite Four and some NPC said "Congratulations! You've taken your first step into Kanto!" and we were all WAIT F'ING WHAT?! and pulled up the map and SURE ENOUGH, whole new world map! This made the ride on the SS Aqua one of the most flat-out enjoyable things in gaming history - you KNEW where you were going! They even made the final final boss a respectable attempt at the Red/Blue player. THAT'S AWESOME. THAT'S THE COOLEST SEQUEL MOVE EVER. You fight yourself from the first game in the second game! Why don't more games do this?!
But anyway, just because they teach you the basics doesn't mean it's a new version of the old game. It's just a way to make sure that players that possibly didn't play the first games aren't totally lost. There's the "stand alone" sequel vs the "left out in the plot cold" sequel theory, and I think Pokemon is wise to go with the first one.
1. Blue might have had a big role in context, but when i say he showed up six times and that was it. THAT. WAS. IT. Yes one of those times was the final boss, but he didn't pop up every 15 minutes to show you where the Pokemon center was in ever town.
2. Yeah I don't know about that one. Being able to go back to Kanto wasn't exactly a secret to me. Plus i got surf and right off the bat took my "first steps in kanto" like as soon as posible, long before the Elite 4, who i never beat as a kid. So no Aqua for me.
3. Dude. reread that paragraph. it was a joke. This was a review of the number of faults I found in just hours of playing an entry in a classic series. I had to spice it up with hilarity. One way was the mini Mass Effect review I put in. The other way was my pretending that I thought it was the same game made 16 different times.
you gotta learn to lsiten. And everyone knows you're a guy, stop pretending and change your avatar already, its been like 8 years.
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Oh Christ, I didn't look at the screen name. It's that annoying writer guy that likes to pretend to be someone of consequence. Well THAT'S disappointing.
And I didn't read the whole thing. It's so tl;dr it burns. Get a blog.
Edit: what did you do to get banned anyway?
November 28, 2010. Prior Ban. Dualk sic accounts. Tried to post some javascript thaT IVOLVED a boatload of our directory resources. This guys trying to break the place...
Well, that's fascinating. Also makes me wonder if someone on the staff is illiterate, but that's another matter.
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first of all, this wasn't supposed to be a long post... it just happened that way. And for the record, the way this site has gone, there is no one of consequence.
and i was young, like really young, when all that **** went down. The real reason was because I was a mod and I posted my password to the public. Again, I was young and a drama queen. Insignificant stuff was happening and everyone made a big deal about it.
edit: oh and the 4th hour rocks. Lenora's a weirdo though
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I really like the way they did the rivals. Sure it can be like, WTF?! Why now?! sometimes, but I mean, you all started the journey in the same place at the same time. Of course you would see eachother everywhere. Plus, later they are pretty helpful sometimes.
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blablabla rivals... One time Cheren shows up at the entrance to a town, shows you to the PKMN Center, and gives you a berry. For absolutely no reason. How much time and effort went into programming all these rival encounters?
Your friends pretty much just pops up after every gym challenge or at the start of the next route later on. Mostly the guy, the girl kinda gets bored and hangs out with the Proff. Also, it's kinda natural that they don't stick as a group. I mean, who'd like to be the sidekick of a non-talking person? When you enter a new town there might be a "Oh hi, I just beat this gym, flawless victory. I'm gonna head on to the next route to train."
I kinda like it though, more battles for me. Started out kinda annoying but you get rather used to it. It's kinda like a survival horror, you don't really know when an event will kick in and give you a challenge. You have the Chino guy, Bianca and then N. And I like to think of them as bosses or something. Love the exp.
There should be a sort of "Pokemon Academy" where you take courses that go through the basics of capturing pokemon all the way to what ever weird connectivity feature I usually never use. And if you're a veteran player, you can just drop out and get onto your adventure. "I'm Professor juniper," she says. "You've been to the pokemon world before? Alright, come on in and start getting badges."
Well, after knowing stuff since the first gen and playing additional games I think I'm immune to whatever annoyance this would bring. I know that there will be tutorials. It's part of the game. They don't go around explaining super effective hits, type advantages, status conditions, move STAB or anything like that. That would be annoying, they only explain what is new and what is basic. How to catch pokés, were to heal pokés and buy items. Done, great.
In Gen I, by the time you met brock, you had gone through a couple of routes, including an off-sequence one where you could catch Nidorans. Later, you walked through a forest crawling with bugs and birds and in some cases even Pikachu himself.
The first gym in Black and white is separated by a town and two routes around it. On these routes you'll meet Purrloin, Patrat, and Lollipup. Get used to them, because they're going to be the only pokemon you see for a very long time. Seriously, every trainer, even the one in the gym and the leader himself have one of these guys.
Agreed, few pokés to gain at the start. But I still kinda like it, the first gym comes quick, you get the sucky monkey and then you get to experience some "plot".
You get too many cool and new to handle afterwards. Lillipup and Patrat family pretty much cease to appear after the first 2 routes. And I like that, also the Zubat equalent isn't in every cave. There is pretty much no poké that makes your Area map go rave party on you in this game. Pokés are rather local, like that.
But back to Pokemon. It's not an awful game.
Sure isn't.
The Plasma plot actually brings up a very important issue to the entire Pokemon universe, but it's executed kind of weird.
Make it any more rhetoric and kids might erase their save files and others to liberate their suffering pokémon
The rivals are annoying and it takes a while before any fun pokemon show up. But when they do, boy is it a treat.
It's totally worth the waiting.
I'm looking to get some other fun DS titles, if anybody knows any good RPGs or Pokemon knock offs. not The World Ends With You. Or Nostalgia.
Golden sun, Clash of heroes, Arcadia, Dragon-something, Final fantasy. There are a lot, question is the taste.
but seriously! Do these rivals ever leave you alone?
No.
PS. A heads up, there's apparently a glitch with triple battles. Just fought one and lost two of my pokés the same turn. When I tried to send in two new ones I could only pick one, the remaining two had the text "Can't be switched out". Had to turn off the game and reload. Sad day
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The first gym in Black and white is separated by a town and two routes around it. On these routes you'll meet Purrloin, Patrat, and Lollipup. Get used to them, because they're going to be the only pokemon you see for a very long time. Seriously, every trainer, even the one in the gym and the leader himself have one of these guys. It gets old fast. Especially since I had two of those guys in my party anyway.
I warned you guys.
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Major spoilers. Get used to the first three or four Pokemon because those are all that you'll be seeing up until the second gym.
I remember that.
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That's like verbatim what I said, x
You know as fun as I'm sure golden sun is, I never beat the first game so i didn't play the sceond one and although i sort of no how it ends... iunno it wouldn't be the same.
But back to pokemon. I noticed a glitch like that actually in double battles. It seems like firs you have to pick a new pokemon, then the one you're having it replace. Maybe it doesn't work to well in tripple battles.
Oh and i walked into celestia city for the first time last night. A beautiful experiance.
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All right, this. Great Pokemon or greatest Pokemon?
(http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/woobat.jpg)
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It's a great pokémon. Special attack is the vice, works well with the moveset it learns beside heart stamp. Evolves around lvl 20-21 or something and can dish out some neat damage comparable to N/Xatu.
It's pretty much a great poké.
Also, the story gets deeper and deeper the further you get in this game. So I suppose one could say it's story driven. Kinda reminds me of Colosseum and X D when it comes to that. You don't wait for Strength to progress, you wait for the next part of the story instead.
It's kinda different but not too fucked up yet.
Also <3 Bulldozer, great pre-Earthquake move.
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All right, this. Great Pokemon or greatest Pokemon?
(http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/woobat.jpg)
Oh my gaw, I want one. Why am I still playing HG?
Oh, because I'm determined to beat it before moving on. I've made some sort of pact.
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I don't know if it's this game or all Pokemon games, but it feels like the dialogue has gotten wonkier.
At one point, Bianca's dad confronts her about leaving home without permission, and one of the gym leaders steps in to intervene: "I'm so-and-so, the gym leader of this city. I also happen to be a model." Good for you?
I also wish the Team Plasma members weren't so buffoonish -- although I guess that's kind of a Pokemon tradition. I am enjoying N though, especially after our romantic ferris wheel ride.
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The last games have tried to be all modern. Terms like Lol and Rofl, Owned, Noob and such appear more often. But that is getting more and more common all around, mash in one liners and some meaningless ramblings in-between
Also this one particular game is trying to create an image of the gym leaders before you can beat the living crap out of them (not the first gym though). That Burgh guy for example play some role before actually being defeated. Although that one leader was... fail, her sprite is even thinner than the rest of the NPCs...
I just love Pendra/Scolipede... It's the first bug that I actually don't hate. The design is not that of a puny bug with eating disorder, this brutal **** will break your bones if you stomp on any part of it. And well, poison type kinda suck, but that's expected from a Bug. Poison tail at lvl 14 and then Venomshock soon after, good enough. Finding the X-scissor Tm made my day though.
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I enjoyed the net lingo from D/P. I don't think they went overboard with it...occasionally someone would say "You just got owned" or "Galactic power for the win!" but people weren't constantly saying "lolwtfsroflcopter." I remember some funny moments, like the sign in the Galactic HQ that reads, "Make sure the bed is unoccupied before lying in it."
And I actually really like the Bug type...There are a lot of interesting bug pokemon and bug moves. I'd consider it up there with my other favorite types, Grass, Psychic, and Ghost.
In other news, this thing is frightening.
(http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/sigilyph.jpg)
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Agreed. My brother was fighting one yesterday, and I about shat my pants.
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I like it...though it kind of looks like a trio of Unown mated with a Ho-oh.
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Well, wait til you actually see it animated in-battle. It's a touch unnerving.
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Well, I was just tanking a nap, but all I remember is the booming voice at the end saying "GO. BUY. BLACK." and then me waking up like 30 seconds ago.
So... uh... I guess I'm going to do that.
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I would do that. Some sort of Hellspawn seems intent on unleashing horrors, and they're not the type to be fucked with. Kind of like the Wu-Tang Clan.
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Wtf @ the opening movie
Juniper is hot.
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This game has the oddest movie at the start. Must be the first time an intro doesn't show a single pokémon...
I'm still curious of how old Juniper is, she seems a bit more... Full of life than previous fossils.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img693/3766/page1k.png) (http://www.drunkduck.com/Pokemon_Rainbow/?p=732441)
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So the bad guys are "Team Plasma"
That are all dressed up light knights
And want to liberate Pokemon from being used by humans, or something.
I mean, I like the idea... but what does plasma have to do with knights, and why would a chivalrous order devoted to tradition and social status want to stir up that sort of revolution? It's like the game designers just draw these things totally out of a hat.
I am liking what I've seen so far though. I think a lot of Brieg's bitching is just that - bitching. The opening was fun and different, having the two friends/rivals makes it feel sort of like I'm adventuring in a party, all the people that want to battle is really keeping me on my toes, and the plot focus is already shaping up to be a pretty interesting story. I mean, take away all this stuff and it's just the old games again. The old games were good, but we've done all that. I'm a bit sick of just grinding levels.
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So the bad guys are "Team Plasma"
That are all dressed up light knights
And want to liberate Pokemon from being used by humans, or something.
I mean, I like the idea... but what does plasma have to do with knights, and why would a chivalrous order devoted to tradition and social status want to stir up that sort of revolution? It's like the game designers just draw these things totally out of a hat.
Well, they are following the their leader and the advisers. Dedication towards their ruler and stuff.
I am liking what I've seen so far though. I think a lot of Brieg's bitching is just that - bitching. The opening was fun and different, having the two friends/rivals makes it feel sort of like I'm adventuring in a party, all the people that want to battle is really keeping me on my toes, and the plot focus is already shaping up to be a pretty interesting story. I mean, take away all this stuff and it's just the old games again. The old games were good, but we've done all that. I'm a bit sick of just grinding levels.
Couldn't put it any better myself.
Love how I've pretty much never felt the urge to grind, I get plenty of exp killing things and most trainers vary their teams later on so you actually use more pokés than those with fighting moves that can exterminate a Rattata hive.
also [spoiler=Future items given to ya']You get a Lucky egg after the 5th gym or so, makes my trouble grinding chansey's at the safari zone seem in vain... As well as doing that annoying side quest in X.D. Makes my life easy.
Also, I run around with 2 exp shares, got another one after showing a fella my swoobat with max affection.[/spoiler]
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I'm still curious of how old Juniper is, she seems a bit more... Full of life than previous fossils.
Let me tell you which part(s) of her is full of all that life...
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I mean, I like the idea... but what does plasma have to do with knights, and why would a chivalrous order devoted to tradition and social status want to stir up that sort of revolution?
Think Knight Templar (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightTemplar).
I also agree with you guys -- I like the rivals' involvement in the game. It makes you feel like you three really are going on an adventure together.
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I love constantly being pestered by them. It's almost like having friends!
I liked them before it was cool.
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What are these "friends" that you guys speak of? Can I eat them?
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You can, but it's not recommended.
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N is a fruity character in a series with a serious over-abundance of fruity characters. Geez. And you guys were really serious about the rivals never leaving your side.
At the second gym city now, but my team is kinda meh. Grass starter, water monkey, dark kitty, psychic metroid thing are the only ones I've put any leveling into.
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Lillipup > Purrloin.
=/
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N isn't fruity (if by fruity, you mean flamboyant), just rather creepy and odd. I think they did a good job with his characterization, because he's the only character (besides maybe Cheren) that I'm actually interested in following.
Sai, you might wanna wander left of the town with the second gym and pick up a fighting pokemon.
I got the fire monkey but dumped it pretty quickly. Just wasn't cutting the mustard.
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Yeah the monkeys are rather useless. I dumped mine soon after the first gym. Got a Tympole instead, it evolves twice and gets a ground second type.
And Lillipup > Purrloin and Patrat any day. Mine passed 100Attk at lvl39. With the damage increase of Tackle and later learning Take down this guy gets some serious action.
At the second gym you can get your hands on Sawk/ Troh, Timburr, Blitzel, Pidove, Tympole and some others. Some better than others. And in that cave you only like entered once earlier you can find Woobat and Roggenrolla. You also get to the bug place shortly after the second gym with 2-3 differnt bugs to add as well as some grassers.
I recently defeated the last gym and heading for the league. So far I love what they did with the legendaries in this game, now I just need to push myself to actually climb the victory Road.
Too bad I have an exam to study for..
Also, Stoutland with Giga Impact = hawt.
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I got the Woobat and Roggenrolla. I also have the lightning zebra and the audio thing. I think I'm doing halfway decent at collecting stuff as I go. Any of this any good?
And what did they do with the legendaries?
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Just took out all of the Ground Gym with Lilligant, all of my Pokes are lvl 30+, and Scraggy rapes. Yet, Watchog still annoys me.
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I found both the ground and bug gyms extremely easy. The electric gym gave me some trouble because of jf'aljf'laskhfa'hfk EMOLGA. God, that thing is a terror. Weak to two of the only types that aren't represented on my team, resistant to way too many types, immune to ground, has Electric, Dark, and Flying moves for great type coverage, and the Emolgas that the trainers around the gym use just looooooove spamming Double Team.
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The electric gym is the reason my Pokes are 30+. Before even trying it, I knew it'd be a pain.
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Timburr and woobat kinda suck. My team consists right now of Sawk (awesome) dewott, woobat, herdier, and roggenrolla. I love sandile, he's a beast, but I already beat white with him on my Team. I may get a tympole, he's got good types. There's not really any good fire pokes tho. I may get that chandelier pokemon. Ghost/fire sounds badass, but I'm unsure.
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Is anyone here actually pleased with their starter? I boxed the otter; he just wasn't working out for me.
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Grass dude seems okay for now
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I'm quite happy with the grass starter. Leaf storm does decent damage, learns mega drain and leach seed, leaf bladelater on and slam. You also get the Grass Knot TM (Low kick but grass) pretty early in the game which is neat. Thing I love most about Servine-family is their balanced attack vs sp attack. Just as Tympole.
I didn't pick the fire starter simply because I knew it would become fighting. I picked Chimchar in diamond and won't fall for that one again. Psychic, flying and ground moves are far too common for Fire/Fight to be a successful combination.
I managed to evolve my Woobat around lvl 20-22, apparently it was affection based. Guess I did a good job. It gets speed and it gets sp attack, pretty much what I expected of it. Learns psychic later on as well as air slash and air cutter. And of course - you can fly on it.
Speaking of HM's. You don't really need them in this game, you can use them to unlock special places and items but so far I haven't even been forced to surf to an island. And to be honest - I kinda like that. No more geodude in the box with strength, rock smash and rock climb and a marril with surf, dive, waterfall and whirlpool. And cut of course.
Btw, I'm a White player so I get Troh instead of Sawk. I tried to level it a little but weren't impressed by the moves.
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I believe the difference between Sawk and Troh is that Sawk has great attack and Troh has great defense. Probably more than that, but high attack fighters are always a plus.
Is woobats evolution good? I'm worried the psychi/flying combo might be a big weakness.
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Swoobat is pretty neat, the stats increases - and that's about it.
Unaware is a great ability which just pisses on enemies using statsboosts, double team? No problamos, Amnesia? We don't care.
Weaknesses aren't that much of a problem. Few bugs, fighting, grass or poison pokés know electric, ice or dark moves.
And that's about the only thing I use Swoobat for. Covering my lack of firepower/pun.
Bug moves will deal regular damage since flying type dampens that.
Fighting pokés can't do much. Both flying and psychic will slay them.
Grass will deal crap damage.
And poison are as dead as dead can be.
So yeah, not a huge problem really. Unless you think it's wise to use it against something it can't really beat.
Ps. I just revived and Archen
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Sawk is pretty amazing, especially very early on. It one-shots almost everything.
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I tried Sawk for a bit, but swapped him for Scraggy because of better type coverage, and the fact that I swear he's basically a gangster with a derp face. I abandoned Servine for Petilil/Lilligant because it has more Sp. Attack at small speed loss.
Anyone else find the Ice Gym stupidly easy?
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All the gyms seem stupidly easy. I wish they'd kept them ridiculously hard like they were in DPP.
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Anyone else find the Ice Gym stupidly easy?
That must be the criticism I have of this game. Beside the normal gym and the dragon gym I really didn't have much trouble. 3 pokés don't really make a leader and they don't have a special case with TM moves like in Platinum. Servine took out the ground gym pretty much without damage. Electric gym was taken care of by a ground poké - sure they used Aerial ace and stuff but it nullified their switch tactics. The bug gym was ridiculously easy compared to the normal gym before it. And so on.
I hope the E4 will offer us more of a challenge, or something like that.
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I'm having a lot of trouble getting into this game. I look at my team and I look at the comments and everyone is like "yeah you should switch out everything you have" and I probably should, but ugh, all that freaking grinding. I think I might be Poke'd out.
Someone tell me of some cool part of the game that happens after the 2nd gym and breaks the monotony. Like, um, similar to the times in DPP when they paired you up with an NPC trainer. That was pretty neat.
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Someone tell me of some cool part of the game that happens after the 2nd gym and breaks the monotony. Like, um, similar to the times in DPP when they paired you up with an NPC trainer. That was pretty neat.
Rotation battles? Dress-up (yes, they haven't learned from D/P)? Other than that, there's not much. I'm just pushing myself to get to the other Pokes. I'm sure if I had been able to go through with a Clefairy or a Honchkrow I might not have stopped for that period a while back.
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That must be the criticism I have of this game. Beside the normal gym and the dragon gym I really didn't have much trouble. 3 pokés don't really make a leader and they don't have a special case with TM moves like in Platinum. Servine took out the ground gym pretty much without damage. Electric gym was taken care of by a ground poké - sure they used Aerial ace and stuff but it nullified their switch tactics. The bug gym was ridiculously easy compared to the normal gym before it. And so on.
I hope the E4 will offer us more of a challenge, or something like that.
I have pretty much the same citicism. Though the Elite four offer a bit more challenge, it's depressing you have to wait that long to get it. My biggest gripe about this game is that you can't shake the feeling someone's holding your hand the whole way through it. It's the most linear game I can remember playing. Even after you beat the Elite Four, there's only one direction you can go.
I don't know. I really like this game. And then I really hate this game.
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Directly after gym 2 is a pretty slow part of the game. There's this town where pretty much nothings happen.
Then there's a new area where you can side track a lot and even end up with a fossil. The battle station comes up then, musical contest, sports arena. Later on you get a bunch of story thrown at you, but nothing out of the ordinary.
And I don't really know a lot about the pokés I haven't been using yet. Purrloin might get good moves later on but the one I trained didn't learn anything useful. I mean, assist? Really now?
Pidove? It didn't look like it could compete with Starly at any point in history.
Watchog is so annoying, hates battling it but the Lillipup family is still a lot stronger, and I'm more of a power trainer than supersonic + hypnosis.
I lost interest in that all way back in red/blue when I kept failing with everything I did.
Confuse attacks missed and when I succeded it lasted 1-3 turns and they hit themselves once. I guess everyone already knows what happens the moment one of your own pokés get confused.
Sleep, same thing. The wake up 1-2 turns after. And it takes more turns getting it to work.
I've traded debuffs and status problems for buffs and raw damage. That's how we roll.
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Status moves piss me off. They always work for the enemy, and they always seem to work perfectly, every turn, for as long as possible. For me, they never hit, never work, never actually take effect, and end in a heartbeat. I rarely keep them, since they seem to be fixed to work against me.
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Leech Seed is your pal.
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One of the few, and not even a very good one.
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No way, man. Leech Seed is sick, especially on a "wall" grass type like Tangrowth.
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Sometimes I prefer stuff like ingrain and aqua ring over leech seed. Leech seed is good when you succeed first try, too bad it doesn't work on everything though.
When it comes to sleep moves I refuse to use anything beside spore and yawn since they actually have 100 acc. And sleep isn't even a good status problem when we use it.
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Spore rocks. That's one of the reasons for Parasect being my fav Poké.
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Oh my... I flew through most of D/P's gyms. These ones I'm getting beat left and right. It took me 7 tries to beat the bug gym. I'm at the western gym leader guy. I currently have:
L.V. 24 Vanillite
L.V. 25 Deerling
L.V. 31 Boldore
L.V. 27 Pansear
L.V. 29 Zebstrika
L.V. 27 Dewott
I've also got a L.V. 25 Herdier and a L.V. 26 Gurdurr
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The platinum version had way harder gyms than D/P could ever imagine.
Anyway, I'm amazed that you're still using pansear and haven't used a stone on it yet.
Boldore rocks and the rest of the party looks okay. I'm just sensing a lack of flying power here. But then again you have a fire poké unlike me.
My Serperior at lvl 50 have the most even stats I thought was possible. around 104 attack and sp attack, 98 def and 110 sp def, 137 speed. 145hp or something. It works for me, it learned giga drain later on and I wished I hadn't been a fool to neglect Leaf blade like I did. Only now realized that the attack stat was as good as the Sp.
Btw, the Elite four are pretty tough. Gotta grind some before attempting them again. I beat 2 of the 4 elite four people but the other 2 don't have any types of which I have advantage.
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I am waiting until level 40 to use the stone. I have been worried about my lack of flying for when I get fly, but my team is pretty diverse now.
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Oh my... I flew through most of D/P's gyms. These ones I'm getting beat left and right. It took me 7 tries to beat the bug gym. I'm at the western gym leader guy. I currently have:
L.V. 24 Vanillite
L.V. 25 Deerling
L.V. 31 Boldore
L.V. 27 Pansear
L.V. 29 Zebstrika
L.V. 27 Dewott
I've also got a L.V. 25 Herdier and a L.V. 26 Gurdurr
Interesting. It was actually the opposite for me. I had a hard time with D/P's gyms and especially the D/P Elite Four, but in B/W I flew through everything, including the Elite Four. I actually even managed to beat the 5th and 6th gyms without letting them getting a single attack in. And I didn't do any level grinding; I just didn't use all 6 party slots. I got my 6th on Victory Road.
But anyway, I think this might be my favorite generation. Up until now, it was Gen III, but this whole generation was just amazing. I was so hooked I played through the whole main game last week and beat the main story on Saturday.
I don't know my levels off the top of my head, but my main party right now, in the order I got them, is:
Samurott (first time I didn't pick fire because I'm so sick of fire/fighting...)
Swoobat
Simisage
Galvantula
Chandelure
Zweilous
Also, I waited until level 43 to evolve Pansage. It wasn't worth missing out on crunch to me.
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Hopefully the third version of BW follows in Platinum's footsteps. The layout of these gyms are so cool that they deserve to be a lot more of a challenge.
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Platinum's gyms = Earthquake earthquake earthquake LAWL
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Platinum's gyms = Earthquake earthquake earthquake LAWL
Entire Colosseum / X.D = Earthquake earthquake earthquake.
Anyway- I beat the game last night, liked what they did. Gonna head out on my post-game soon. No clue what's waiting for me there.
Also, anyone else encountered Thundurous(or whatever)? Met that guy at Route 7 and then he appeared all over. Bastard's typical roamer that won't get caught.
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Yeah, I think I caught thunderous in white. But uh, the extra routes after the E4 are the best part, imo. Some crazy awesome pokes in shaking grass on those routes. Level of difficulty jumps up a notch too.
How did you feel about the last fight?
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I'm starting to get annoyed by the seemingly arbitrary gender ratios of Pokemon. Basically, the rule of the thumb seems to be "cool looking Pokemon are usually male; pink girly ones are female," in total defiance of the biology of the animals Pokemon were based on.
Why does an ant (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Durant_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) have a 50/50 gender ratio, when almost all the ants in a colony are female, and certainly all of the "warrior" ants?
Why is the semi-racist vulture (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mandibuzz_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) all-female? Why is the super cool eagle (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Braviary) all-male? This is especially stupid when you consider that real female eagles are larger than males and hunt larger prey! And California condors (what the vulture is based on) are one of the few birds of prey where the female is smaller than the male. They shouldn't be one gender only in the first place, but if we're going by size (and, theoretically, fighting ability), they got the genders mixed up!
But duhhhhh, screw biology, pink is for girls.
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Because being politically-correct is for pussies.
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Eh, you guys already know how I feel about this generation.
The only thing they could do to get some of my respect back is making Jynx black in the remake. Because that's the original colour and I don't care what anyone has to say.
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Dude, it's blackface. They changed it for a reason.
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No, it isn't. Jynx is based on a ganguro. Not a black person.
(I'm ignoring the fact that ganguro translates as blackface, because its something else entirely)
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Why is the semi-racist vulture (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mandibuzz_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) all-female? Why is the super cool eagle (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Braviary) all-male? This is especially stupid when you consider that real female eagles are larger than males and hunt larger prey! And California condors (what the vulture is based on) are one of the few birds of prey where the female is smaller than the male. They shouldn't be one gender only in the first place, but if we're going by size (and, theoretically, fighting ability), they got the genders mixed up!
I'm curious, how is the vulture racism?
And also, don't the eagle represent the US, airforce or something? Their pokédex entrance makes it sound like they are a bunch of patriotic stout warriors at least. With their coop with americans for this game it wouldn't surprise me if some of those people wanted the eagle to be all male.
Anyway, pure gender pokés are kinda silly. Like the Nidorans, for some reason a Nidoqueen can't breed. I get that the cow is all female, cuz male things with milk are kinda worrying.
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It's a cultural change, something that is far from uncommon in video games.
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I'm curious, how is the vulture racism?
And also, don't the eagle represent the US, airforce or something? Their pokédex entrance makes it sound like they are a bunch of patriotic stout warriors at least.
With their coop with americans for this game it wouldn't surprise me if some of those people wanted the eagle to be all male.
Anyway, pure gender pokés are kinda silly. Like the Nidorans, for some reason a Nidoqueen can't breed. I get that the cow is all female, cuz male things with milk are kinda worrying.
Yeah, I wouldn't drink a Tauro's Moo Moo Milk, if you know what I mean.
Nidoqueen/King thing is probably a Gen II programming flaw that they kept for some reason. I don't know.
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No, it isn't. Jynx is based on a ganguro. Not a black person.
(I'm ignoring the fact that ganguro translates as blackface, because its something else entirely)
Read this. (http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/bashing/racist_jynx_01.html)
I'm curious, how is the vulture racism?
African "savages" are commonly depicted with a bone in their hair. Like so. (http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_493/127075943293Ui70.jpg)
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187977_138587316206790_119179_n.jpg)
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Oh, I thougth of it more as a caveman thingy. It wears a skull as diaper in pre-evolve, then the evolved version seem to be wearing some kind of fur. All my impressions were connected to the BC. NPCs in Chrono Trigger.
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I don't know Val, seems okay to me. Ludicolo has a mexican hat and likes to dance, but I don't see people complaining about it being racist. I could probably name a bunch of other examples if I tried a little harder.
Also, really, who the **** cares if Jynx is black. I'm tired of this. Sure, it's a black stereotype. But really, so what. If people weren't so racist they wouldn't give a damn either. It's a child game, for god's sake. Jynx is not portrayed as an evil pokémon who robs people in dark alleys. It's a pretty cool psychic pokémon that lives in ice caves. It has a funny face. It's a cool pokémon. Real black people don't even look like that. The whole thing is just a joke, if anything, and should not be seen as "Nintendo hates black people".
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Luke's right. When there's 649 Pokemon some are inevitably going to look like racial stereotypes to easily offended overanalytic people.
In other news; I'm back and HOLYSHIT I have POKERUS.
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...Robotam? Hey, nice to see you, man. Been a while. Nice to have you.
And Pokérus rocks. I got it on crystal the other day.
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I don't know Val, seems okay to me. Ludicolo has a mexican hat and likes to dance, but I don't see people complaining about it being racist. I could probably name a bunch of other examples if I tried a little harder.
Also, really, who the **** cares if Jynx is black. I'm tired of this. Sure, it's a black stereotype. But really, so what. If people weren't so racist they wouldn't give a damn either. It's a child game, for god's sake. Jynx is not portrayed as an evil pokémon who robs people in dark alleys. It's a pretty cool psychic pokémon that lives in ice caves. It has a funny face. It's a cool pokémon. Real black people don't even look like that. The whole thing is just a joke, if anything, and should not be seen as "Nintendo hates black people".
People have complained about Ludicolo, although most don't consider it as offensive as Jynx.
And you're yapping on, but all I really hear is "Well, I'm not offended, so why should anyone else be?"
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This conversation is stupid. You guys are stupid for having it. Stop it.
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Wow, thanks for enlightening me about how stupid this discussion about racism in Pokemon is, Archem. This is clearly the most inane and meaningless debate that has ever occurred on All of All.
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I always saw Jynx as an opera singer or something while mr.mime was a mime.
The design of Jynx always reminded me of all these opera / valkyre caricatures that one could see in shows back in the days the moment they showed what was on the stage. Odd skirt and armour with boobs, broad body and fair hair.
well what do you know. The opera I was thinking about is called Valkyria.
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Wow, thanks for enlightening me about how stupid this discussion about racism in Pokemon is, Archem. This is clearly the most inane and meaningless debate that has ever occurred on All of All.
I saw that I needed to point it out, since everyone is still going on about it.
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Jynx resembles an opera singer to me, too. You could make a lot of arguments as to what she is...Bulbapedia suggests that she could be some sort of Japanese spirit or, since an episode showed Jynxes as Santa's helpers, she could be based on "Black Peter" -- although Black Peter is still pretty racist. Nintendo hasn't exactly been forthcoming about Jynx's origins.
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Prpl is also right.
When I was a kid, I used to see a black woman. But racism never crossed my mind. She was a black woman, Mr. Mime was a mime, Squirtle was a turtle, Hitmonchan was Jackie Chan. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Also I wrote a long post to reply to Val half an hour ago... Apparently it didn't get through, and I'm not typing that **** again >.>
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People get offended over nothing, really. Just pointing that out.
On a semi-related note, I've just kicked the third gym leader's arse in HeartGold with Mew. I love Mew.
However, I hate the Voltorb Card game thingy in Goldenrod.
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I enjoy the game, but the fact that I've collected a grand total of eight coins makes it horrible. I can't buy coins, I can't earn more than a handful on my best game, I still need to pay out the nose for prizes, the end result is kind of horrid.
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I've got about 150... which isn't even enough for the cheapest prize; Abra, costing 200 coins. God damn Dratini costs 2,100 or something... though maybe there is an alternative for getting one, I'd have to check. For me, it's usually "Alright, the Voltorb is either there, or there... *flip* -Voltorb, you lose-"
Is this really the only way to get coins?
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The game's not hard. When I was obsessing over HeartGold, I would trade people the 10k TMs for rare trades.
Hint: play the easiest odds first. If you get a voltorb, you fall levels depending on how many cards you've flipped. So if you're on level 4, and you get an orb first card, you fall all the way to 1, but if you've flipped 4, you don't fall any levels at all.
I played the hell out of that game. It's fun for 15-20 min or so. I can usually get at least 5k coins in that time period.
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Jesus, how? I couldn't get more than 10 or so in one sitting, and then I'd start losing.
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All I can say regarding the Jynx debate is OVERREACTION. Besides the fact that the whole complaint is excessively whiny to begin with, it's ignorant of all the positive aspects of Jynx, who is a rather well-respected Pokémon. It's not like she's a Bidoof or something.
Anyway, as far as the coin game is concerned, I haven't played the one in Black and White yet, despite being far into the post-game. It doesn't sound fun, though. I've avoided the game corners more and more as the generations have passed.
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"Excessively whiny"...please. Just don't. I'm getting close to bursting into a rant about how all you white boys don't have a right to decide whether or not it's okay to complain about perceived sexism or racism.
ANYWAY, I quite liked Voltorb Flip, even if it does gradually become more luck-based as the level progresses.
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Us white boys are a little tired of every minority on the planet making as big of a deal as possible about every honest mistake or good-faith joke. It's okay to trumpet feminism or black heritage, but God help us if we show the slightest bit of pride in being a guy. And being okay with being white is a downright hate crime.
Thats alls Im going to say about that.
Voltorb Flip is back, cool. And how is Voltorb Flip worse than the slot machines in the originals? Those were totally luck based and slow to boot. I had to buy coins to get a freaking Porygon in the original Red. At higher levels in Voltorb Flip you can make 500+ coins in a single game. Yes, there are elements of luck and youll blow up a lot, but by playing the odds you'll eventually win and win big.
I never understood how Voltorb Flip was added in response to complaints about gambling. Its MUCH more of a gambling game than the pull a lever and the game tells you that you did not win slot machines.
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Is there a game corner in B/W? I've beat the game and played for 100+ hours, how could I have missed it?
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I love voltorb flip, too bad there was no other way to get coins in HG/SS though. I thought that atleast the Celadon game stor would have the cash in and the slots.
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Us white boys are a little tired of every minority on the planet making as big of a deal as possible about every honest mistake or good-faith joke. It's okay to trumpet feminism or black heritage, but God help us if we show the slightest bit of pride in being a guy. And being okay with being white is a downright hate crime.
I guess I'm going to be dragging this out longer than I thought, but......wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
1. Guys openly show pride in being guys all the damn time, and no one says a thing. Ever seen beer commercials?
2. I can understand getting annoyed with frivolous complaints, but you guys get annoyed with every single complaint about racism or sexism. You just don't get it. A lot of times, racism/sexism isn't always blatant but is subtle enough that it may not be detected by those who have never experienced it before. That doesn't make it any less offensive. I know what that's like to not see it; if you had asked me 8 years ago about how I felt about the Jynx controversy or the controversy about how the new black Barbie dolls all have straight hair and non-brown eyes, I would have said the same thing you guys are saying. But then I grew up.
And I don't even give equal weight to all complaints like this; I looked at Resident Evil 5 (admittedly, I did not play it) and thought it would be a shame if games from now on refused to go anywhere near Africa simply because it would involve stirring up a hornet's nest of racism accusations. At the same time, I understood why people objected to the image of a white guy gunning down tribal Africans.
The fact is we do not live in a vacuum; there is a long history of outrageously offensive depictions of black people, particularly in the US. Since we in the US have that history, we flinch at the images like this:
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You know. Like Jynx. That's Little Black Sambo, a character from a children's book that was all the rage in Japan until the 1980's. Japanese kids and their parents probably didn't get that caricature depictions of black kids could be offensive, simply because Japan doesn't have that history. I think that's how we got Jynx; the creators of the original game simply thought it would be a funny character that would get a chuckle out of everyone. Even if they didn't mean that, they didn't realize that Jynx at least looks like she belongs in a minstrel show.
3. If I can somehow get over the fact that I don't get to show pride in being white, I'm sure you can too.
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What bothered me about Resident Evil critism was that it was an African American raising his voice and not an African.
Also, what is wrong with gunning down dark-grey / blue skinned cannibals/tribal people infected with parasites in a swamp that belongs to an ancient religion where they infect themselves with the god's flower(progenitor virus) to become immortal and protect the garden?
True, our black population didn't get the racism about Jynx.
But we don't even have a history where black people are ex-slaves over here in Sweden. The black population are here as previous refugees or people looking for freedom.
So I suppose you guys have some more connection to stuff like this.
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Long rant.
What the **** is wrong with you? This is a Pokémon thread! Get the hell out of here with that bullshit!
Swear to God...
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Man, I never get tired of your "knock it off guyz!!" act, Archem. Oh wait, yes I do.
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While I applaud your concern Valiere, I really don't get what you're trying to say. If you're just saying that Pokemon does have offensive images, that's okay. Everything does.
As for this game, I really really want it, I'm just a little afraid of starting with all new pokes. I played a japanese rom with the new ones mixed with the old ones and loved it.
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Woah, this still going on?
People complain about everything, seriously. Some get offended at things others might not. We could always leave this as be.
Whatever. I may be just unlucky with the Voltorb Flip game. Suppose I could try it again... and again. And again. Is this really the only way to get a Dratini? I suppose Abra can be caught somewhere else, but Ekans, what about him to?
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Man, I never get tired of your "knock it off guyz!!" act, Archem. Oh wait, yes I do.
So what? It's just so ridiculous that I'm getting a headache!
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You can get a Dratini from the cave behind Gym nr8. In HG/SS, still haven't found a gamecorner in B/W.
Also, the voltorb flip kinda reminds me of that mine game for pc. The oen with the flags and stuff. Same kind of thinking. You know how many voltorbs there can be on a row, and then the other row. So common sense will take you through the first couple of levels. Then chances start playing. Where is the greatest chance that there will be a voltorb? This row should have 1 voltorb, and I've picked all but two spots. Will it be on the row with 2 voltorbs or the one with 4?
And well, the fact that you just have to find the numbers makes it easier. And the music rocks. Love that game corner song. So friggin addictive as the game.
And btw, I got that Fire/bug poké. Loving the moth.
Btw2: Found 2 of the legendary.... steeds, by chance. Explored dark caves and bumped into them. Now I need to find the other one.
Also traded a celebi to this game and got myslef a Zoruo. Not sure what's so good about it though.
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Could be wrong, but I don't think B/W have game corners. =X
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Aw, I wish I had Celebi. I missed the event at Gamestop. Well, at least I still got Mew, thanks to Lucas.
Also, yeah, the Voltorb game isn't all that bad, it's just I tend to get unlucky. Farthest I got was Level 3. It seems I always get a Voltorb when Luck is the only factor. I suppose I could always Quit after gaining some coins instead of trying to get a Level higher, but... it's going to be a long way until I can get a prize. I suppose I'll have to work on my patience...
Also, are Gold/Silver still the only Pokémon games in which you wander in more than one town?
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Could be wrong, but I don't think B/W have game corners. =X
I may be the minority in this, but if that's the case I'm glad. I've always hated the game corners...and safari games for that matter. Damn Chanseys.
It's not like it makes or breaks the game for me either way. I'll still pick this game up whenever I can. I've also decided that I need to buy HG or SS one of these days as well, though I despise the female trainer in that game. She looks like Mario with a goofy hat.
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Also, are Gold/Silver still the only Pokémon games in which you wander in more than one town?
Please explain.
Also, the pre-genV pokés I'm missing is Mew, Deoxys, Darkrai and Arceus.
With Gen V we might just add all the legendaries and most black pokés. I do have Vinicity and Zoroa though.
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Wait, no game corner OR safari zone in B/W?! What DOES it have?
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Please explain.
Also, the pre-genV pokés I'm missing is Mew, Deoxys, Darkrai and Arceus.
With Gen V we might just add all the legendaries and most black pokés. I do have Vinicity and Zoroa though.
He meant region.
Johto/Kanto.
I'm still waiting for my Wii Pokémon MMORPG with Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh.
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He meant region.
Johto/Kanto.
Exactly. My bad. Don't know why I said town, it makes no sense...
Also, I've got to Level 4 in that Voltorb game, whoo! And then I've fell back to Level 1.
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I'm still waiting for my Wii Pokémon MMORPG with Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh.
I'm with you on this one. How cool would it be if you could travel to all of the regions? :D
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Just picture how nerfed grinding would be. If we have 4 different regions with gyms we gotta balance the **** so that people want to visit all the low level instances (first gym) and not just return later on to defeat enemies with splash.
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Hey, why not just make it a full-fledged adventure that takes you into the high levels easy before you can access the MMO-stage, where it's all re-worked. It opens up a ton of Pokémon for the catching, a lot of new activities and events, new quests, all NPC trainers and gym leaders are revised to be worth fighting at those higher levels. Instanced party games would consist of only a few people in a game world at a time, but certain rules exist. Something like upping enemy levels a little, increasing multi-Pokémon battles by a ton, and placing obedience limits, like badges have, to ten levels above the lowest player. This wouldn't remove the ability to play with way under-levelled friends, but it would keep you from grinding them all the way through in a heartbeat or power-levelling them to 100 in a week. So we have single player/party mode and MMO after a certain point. Probably after the first E4 encounter.
There can be arenas for PvP for fun, and some parts of the world can allow challenges on the field for actual payouts. Challenges must always be accepted before a battle starts, and a player can choose to auto-accept/decline challenges if they don't want to be bothered. The actual game world would obviously need to be rebuilt on a larger scale, because cramming a hundred people at a time down a narrow hallway, like we see now, would be a hassle. Also, wild battles will be displayed on the world by displaying the player with a sprite of the Pokémon being fought in-front of them. Checking the hostile Pokémon will allow you to view the battle. With PvP battles, checking either trainer will do this.
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That sounds like a pretty interesting idea. Pokemon meets MMO's...have to admit that I've never thought of the concept before. Nintendo could really go somewhere wonderful with that if they ever felt inclined to do so. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt Pokemon will step very far outside of its original format, but you never know. After all, we have all this wonderful WiFi lately. You never know what the game designers are going to do with it in the future.
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They also added triple battles and rotation battles. Odd stuff indeed.
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It's not like it makes or breaks the game for me either way. I'll still pick this game up whenever I can. I've also decided that I need to buy HG or SS one of these days as well, though I despise the female trainer in that game. She looks like Mario with a goofy hat.
As I said before, it looks like her mommy dressed her that morning.
The Elite Four is a cake walk. I grinded to level 50 to be safe, but it's not like previous games where subsequent members have higher and higher level Pokemon. They're all around 48.
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Yepp, that was kinda sweet actually. Not like you need to grind up to lvl 60 and fight the first one with 50s pokémon and the second with 53 pokes ect. They always appeared to crudly bad.
Also, the last fight was only hard because of that friggin Hydreigon and some other crappers. But especially that Hydreigon.
And yes, Lyra looks like ****. But the male version is still a youngster.
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**** Hydreigon. It's got a ridiculous special stat and gets a perfect moveset making it the best special sweeper out there.
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Anyone notice the pokemon in this gen evolve ridiculously late? My Mienfoo evolved at level 50. That's like dragon level late-evolving.
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Anyone notice the pokemon in this gen evolve ridiculously late? My Mienfoo evolved at level 50. That's like dragon level late-evolving.
But you find it at lvl 35-43 right? So it kinda makes sense that it doesn't evolve one level later.
I remember some games where you could find unevolved pokés at high levels. Just messed with my exp gain.
What doesn't make sense is the level up of the bug/fire(Larvesta). It's a bug and evolves at 59(59!).
Also, I think my entire party was ready to roll at 35 or something. Whenever the starter evolves the third time. Woobat popped his feelings for me at 21 and it was done. Buldore needs a trade to get any better. The toad was pretty early as well as Stoutland.
I spent a lot of time looking for an Axew but never found one. I did find the evolved form in the victory road though, same as the Hydreigon first state. Although it must've been in a special part of the dungeon since I haven't seen one since.
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So I had a dream about it, which turned into impulse buying of Pokemon Black. Now to get a bud to help me save scum my way into having all 3 starters like I did in Ruby.
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So I had a dream about it, which turned into impulse buying of Pokemon Black.
Wait, what? You too?
The dark gods are really active on this one.
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I've read on Bulbapedia there is a place in Pokémon White only which has few Pokémons absent from Black. In other words, there would be more Pokémons in White than in Black. Is there something in Black to compensate for this?
Also, I've read you can have Pokémons from Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl in HeartGold/SoulSilver after you obtain National Pokédex or something. Read it's possible to have like near 500 Pokémons (though I'm unsure if you can obtain them all with only HG/SS).
So, is it actually possible to obtain all Pokémons with Black/White too?
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Black has Black City, which has trainer battles, but no wild pokemon. It's all up to preference, I guess.
Also, [end of game spoilers] [spoiler]I'm gonna miss N. He was my creepy manchild friend throughout the entire game, and then he just....flies off? Breaks my heart. :([/spoiler]
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Ready to take on the second gym now.
Named my Oshawott (now Dewott) Ottawin. Seemed like a clever pun at the time. Also debating on whether or not evolve it into Samurott.
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I hear Ditto copies the catch rate of the Pokémon it clones, so that probably didn't help the capturing part, either.
Ah, I see. I suppose Quilava's catch rate isn't very high, then.
But well, I managed to get him. I hypnotized him and then threw an Ultra Ball. Pretty sure it wasn't necessary, but I'd rather waste one Ultra than 10 Great.
At least, it'll look nicer to see an Ultra Ball when I use him in combat. Well... "it" actually, considering it's genderless.
I remember a pissed-off friend telling me his team was wrecked when a ditto he was trying to capture transformed into one his legendaries or something. Haha, owned.
This level 10 Ditto was pretty much kicking my level 16-22 Pokémons' arses. Can't imagine what a Legendary would do.
Yes, I know these come from another thread, but it would've been off-topic, so... yeah.
And say, to those who've finished many Pokémon games... which one would you consider the best?
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HeartGold. Everything before the elite 4 feels like a grind. Everything after feels like putzing around until I get bored. HeartGold/SoulSilver delayed that putzing stage by a long shot. It's just a freaking huge game. The original Gold and Silver did this too, but HG/SS does what they did and does it better.
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I'd say HG/SS, simply for the value. It's practically two games in one.
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You know, I've never had any trouble with Ditto. They never survive more than three turns (assuming I'm doing something horribly wrong), and I always capture them without a problem.
I must be some sort of Ditto wizard.
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Yeah, I'm with Archem here.
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Assuming anybody plays the battle subway super single trains, what's the farthest you've got? I've never beat more than 20 trainers. Somehow the 21st trainer beats me every damn time I get there. And it drives me insane just how unlucky you can get. Their odds are FAR better than yours so when they're holding items like quick claw or brightpowder you know you might well be screwed. Quick claws can make them attack before you multiple times in a row if you're just a little bit unlucky and with brightpowder attacks with 100% accuracy will miss like HALF THE DAMN TIME. It gets kinda frustrating. And now I just lost to an Alkazam... Goddamnit.
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Also, I've read you can have Pokémons from Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl in HeartGold/SoulSilver after you obtain National Pokédex or something. Read it's possible to have like near 500 Pokémons (though I'm unsure if you can obtain them all with only HG/SS).
So, is it actually possible to obtain all Pokémons with Black/White too?
Well, I think that HG/SS have the same thing as D/P/P - the Pal park. You insert a game into the GBA socket and pick 6 of them. Then you enter the park and capture those 6. Wait a day then repeat.
B/W got a simmilar thing but it's about getting pokés from D/P/P and HG/SS. You need another ds, use download play, pick 6 pokés from the game. Then you will get a minigame where you capture the 6 pokés with a time limit. After that they are sent to your box in B/W.
As far as I know. B/W can only trade with B/W. Everything else is steal.
And the white forest wasn't much to cheer about. 1 house and patches of grass with random pokés. I'd like to see that black city.
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I'll be going to black city soon. I jsut got both games last week (wednesday) so far I've gotten almost all the badges. I'm having a fun time though, but I keep changing up my party to have a more diverse group than i normally play with. Most of my pokes are dual types (grass/steel; electric/flying; rock/ground; and so on) But I do like this game a lot more, and I gotta say you are given a lot of crap throughout the game! I've never had a game just give me stuff from random people before, and the same way with the HMs, I'm loving the reusable TMs as well, save me money on having to buy TMs for pokes that I want to learn the same move for, or when I switch one poke out for another of the same type. Zebstrika is one of my favorites as well as the Roggenrola line and the little spiked grass/steel poke (can't remember the name right now).
All in all I'm glad with how the did this game.
But for some reason N just bugs the hell out of me as well as Cheren. Two least NPCs of this game.
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Well, I think that HG/SS have the same thing as D/P/P - the Pal park. You insert a game into the GBA socket and pick 6 of them. Then you enter the park and capture those 6. Wait a day then repeat.
Actually, I've read you can capture Gen. 3-4 Pokés by using a certain channel on your radio on certain days, but you need the National Pokédex. For example, you can apparently capture Absol in the Slowpoke Well if you switch to DJ something's channel on Wednesday.
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Yes, but that's in the wild and not trades. I was speaking trades there.
There are the swarms and then the radios in HG/SS and at least swarms in B/W.
Can get you some pokés that are otherwise unobtainable during main game.
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Nice. Too bad you need to pretty much beat the game first, though... but hey, that's still pretty nice.
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If that was a question, purple, then yes. Check out bulbapedia for the routes and places after the elite four.
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Actually, I've read you can capture Gen. 3-4 Pokés by using a certain channel on your radio on certain days, but you need the National Pokédex. For example, you can apparently capture Absol in the Slowpoke Well if you switch to DJ something's channel on Wednesday.
It's true, and I wub my little Absol. ^^
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I haven't touched this game in like a week now. Stupid stinking dreamvoices convincing me to spend money on this when I knew I wasn't really feeling it.
Maybe in a year or so I'll pick it up again.
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Very disappointed in the lack of Battle Factory.
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So, should I definitely stay on HeartGold?
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Well, I still kinda liked Platinum better. It was a great boost from Diamond and pearl. Lots of daily stuff to do, battle frontier which was more than just a tall tower. Roaming bastards.
The fun of HG/SS for me was the post-game which ended far too quickly and then the pokéathlon which is rad to challenge your friends in. Having pokés after you kinda stopped being cool once you got the bike.
White was all new, although it didn't really challenge me the way that platinum did and Lance in HG/SS. The white forest was a disappointment, I expected an actual forest. Most post game trainers have pokes at 63 and up while the league was kinda 55. Liked the new type combinations in white, liked most pokés. Hunting down legendaries now. But I kinda lost interest in all that once I did an entire lap around the world. Not sure why though.
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B/W is sooooo linear. They should have done something with HMs other than excluding them almost entirely from necessity.
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I'm liking it just because it is new. I finally went back and got my damn axew now I just gotta level him up before finishing up.
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I do looooove my electric/bug type spider pokeman. I don't know what it's english name is and I'm too lazy to go look it up.
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"Darumaka's droppings are hot, so people used to put them in their clothes to keep themselves warm."
What the **** is this ****?
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This surely ain't said in-game, is it?
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I think it is haha
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I got the game the day it came out and was finished with it 4 days later. level 74 volcarona, 75 chandelure, 75 salamence, 80 haxorus, 84 hydreigon and 90 excadrill
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This surely ain't said in-game, is it?
It is, at least in White version. I pretty much fell out of my chair when I caught the critter and read its description.
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Yeah, it's the pokedex entry. Like the one for Swoobat where it says stuff about it's courting.
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"Anyone who comes into contact with the ultrasonic waves emitted by a courting male experiences a positive mood shift."
Huuuuuh. So people get happy when a horny male makes sounds near them? Those Unova people are crazy.
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Courting and mating aren't the same thing. It's definitely not as out there as hot turds being rubbed on people's clothes. I don't even see why you'd want to do that. How cold are you, anyway? Those guys live in the desert, so I can't imagine being cold if you're around a desert-dweller. It's a logic thing now.
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Deserts get silly amounts of cold at night. Humitiy (ie clouds) helps hold in heat. If it comes to down to a choice between freezing to death or rubbing pokemon crap on me to stay warm, well, I'm glad I don't live in Pokeworld I guess.
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You gut your camel and crawl inside.
Anyway, deserts are cold at night indeed. Life and Monster Hunter taught me that.
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You gut your camel and crawl inside.
I thought they smelled bad on the outside.
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Have you ever smelled the innards of a camel, Sai? You never know until you try. Perhaps they smell like freesia and lavender...whatever the hell that smells like. Just for the record, I would not be willing to test that out.
I think the more pertinent question is why the residents of Unova would be using droppings to keep warm when it's clear that pokemon takes place in a modernized setting where there are undoubtedly poofy winter coats and other cold weather wear. Besides, why not just catch a fire pokemon and...like...start a campfire, or something? You know, like the 1,000,000,000,000,001 times that's happened in the pokemon anime?
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What if you get lost in the desert trying to catch a Fire Pokémon?
And maybe it was before the poofy coat were invented. Or, maybe they... you know, like... enjoy this stuff, too.
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On top of that.. Isn't darumaka a fire pokemon?
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Yes, but I don't think I follow your logic.
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Besides, why not just catch a fire pokemon and...like...start a campfire, or something? You know, like the 1,000,000,000,000,001 times that's happened in the pokemon anime?
What that pokedex entry is telling us is people in the pokeworld would use pokepoop to keep warm rather than using the same pokemon they took pokepoop from to light a fire.
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There's a lot of thought that doesn't factor in.
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There are a number of reasons why building a fire would be impractical. Say, it's raining and they're in an open area, or they're in a cave where the smoke could conceivably build up.
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It's a desert, so rain seems a bit unlikely. Plus, let's hang out at the mouth of the cave so we can get some ventilation.
I'mma poke holes and flip chessboards when I'm not happy with the direction of the conversation.
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If Darumaka is your pokemon, you're not always going to be in the desert.
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So you won't constantly need to be rubbing **** on you clothes at night. I don't think this conversation is headed in an intelligent direction.
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Still pretty sure the people who were doing it were the kind to enjoy such things.
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Imma agree with Cerebus on this one. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more people with sick fetishes in pokemon world. After all, when there are pokemon like Gardevoir around, there are bound to be a few sexually frustrated individuals who wouldn't mind a bit of...experimentation, if you know what I mean.
I mean, girls dressed up like pokemon (http://www.dealspwn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/pokemon-girls-full.jpg) are apparently attractive even in our world, so...
Edited because I unintentionally said something squick-ish. >.>
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You have also unintentionally supplied me with fap-material. For that, I thank you.
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Edited because I unintentionally said something squick-ish. >.>
Now I'm curious.
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Great work of whoever did those. Some were good, some were tacky and I just didn't feel a couple.
One thing I kinda noticed while playing WoW is that all gear(beside weapons obviously) look kinda dull on male characters while the designs for female characters are more imaginative. It's just a shame that a % of all pants is turned into hotpants for female characters. Of course, some are even for males but y'know. I guess those guys feels more motivated to design the female versions or something.
Anyway, kinda remembered the old pokedex about gengar and his not so very good behaviour.
And I finally managed to catch all of the 3 stags (or what people decided to call these, grass, steel and rock) unsure where the rest of the legendaries beside Thundorous could be hiding out.
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FFXI had the same problem with male vs female armor. It was like all the clothing was designed with females in mind and then modded at the last minute for male characters, so half made them look like girls and the other half just made them look awful but none of it was really designed to make guys look that impressive. I had a female character (really, at this point, that can't be a shock) so it wasn't as big of an issue for me, but still, it was a pretty big gap.
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Frustratingly, a lot of the legendaries are event pokemon.
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Which means that I'll never get any of them, most likely. I haven't even bought the game yet... -.-
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If you buy it now, you will get a certain Pokémon which I am too lazy to go check my e-mail for more information about. Or something. This is lame, though. I missed the Celebi give-away, so now, I can only obtain him by trading it online. But since most people ask for level 100 for a God damned Vulpix, I don't even want to know what they want for a Celebi.
About Gengar, I've checked Bulbapedia's Pokédex entries and all it says is something about him absorbing heat.
As for the armour thing; that's something I did not like when playing WoW. When I wear Plate, I want a full armour, not a metal bikini!
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You know, I have doubles of several giveaway Pokémon. I'm not offering to give the dudes away or anything, but I wonder if you can pass one of them around to trigger events?
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As for the armour thing; that's something I did not like when playing WoW. When I wear Plate, I want a full armour, not a metal bikini!
You're forgetting a vital rule of not only RPG's but video games in general: the more skin is exposed, the better protected you are.
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(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/FM_chart2.gif)
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...And that's why I love 'em.
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Just gonna say, I haven't leveled a pokemon to 100 since red and blue
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Since Gold for me.
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Since platinum, That battle frontier is hard, and giving my other pokés a boost by equipping macho badge on the attacker and then exp share on the one who needed levels. Best of two worlds.
Also, I just received another Lucky egg in White. What gives? I didn't bust my *** capturing Chanseys to get them as freebies...
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Also, I just received another Lucky egg in White. What gives? I didn't bust my *** capturing Chanseys to get them as freebies...
*Recalls catching Chanseys and shoots self in head.*
I think my last level 100 was my Swampert in Sapphire.
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I've never had a level 100 the highest is 89. And that was Ferligator in silver.
I'm kinda tired of getting freebies it makes the game a little too easy.
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Last 100 that I had was...****, I think Mewtwo in Yellow.
Too bad the battery died on that cartridge :/
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My last level 100 was in Red. With the help of MissingNo. Yes, I know.
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I think my level 100 Mew in Blue was my last level 100, but that was after the level 100 ninetales in Silver.
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Last level 100 = Venasaur in Crystal. Traded up from Blue in 60's.
I was really pissed when I couldn't trade from 2nd gen to 3rd gen...
Also...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGtpgD8fgW4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGtpgD8fgW4)
Creepy Black.
Not sure if anyone linked to it yet, but what ever.
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Oh, that one is awesome.
EDIT: Hey people, read it here instead
http://tinycartridge.com/post/866743831/super-creepy-pokemon-hack
I don't know, the video is just not the same and a lot of the screens are so obviously fake that its not even fun.
Oh, and that Zelda thing too. Majora's Mask hack. Very creepy.
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Yeah, creepy **** is creepy.
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http://www.zeldainformer.com/images/news/z9NwH.jpg
Link to first part for those who want it.
Other parts need to be seen on youtube.
Quite a great hack, but man, **** gives me nightmares.
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I really don't feel like reading, nor watch any of the video, but isn't this ghost Pokémon what Gastly or whatever look like when you don't have a certain item, in that Tower thing? Been a while I haven't played Red.
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Silph Scope is the item that you're thinking of. /nerd
I've seen the Majora's Mask thing that Lucas posted before, but I've never heard of that Pokemon bootleg. That's interesting and quite creepy. If such a bootleg actually exists (which I doubt it does), I'd be all over that.
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Cerebus: It could be Ghastly, Haunter, Cubone, or the boss Marowak.
Natako: It exists, I know it! I've got an uncle who works at Nintendo.
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So I read the Pokémon one, but am too lazy to read the Zelda one. Interesting... but I doubt it does exist.
My uncle who also works at Nintendo confirmed his non-existence (my uncle's).
And why would someone beat the game several time if it always bring the same ending; erasing your file and forcing you to start a new game?
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They were trying to get a different ending, duh.
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It exists, I know it! I've got an uncle who works at Nintendo.
My uncle who also works at Nintendo confirmed his non-existence (my uncle's).
My uncle who works at Nintendo confirms both of these.
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You guys all have uncles that work at Nintendo? Is it the same uncle? Maybe you're all secretly brothers. Anyway, my uncle who also (conveniently) works at Nintendo says that all three of you are wrong. I asked him how that's possible, and he just laughed creepily and began humming the Lavender Town theme (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1709422). <- and yeah, I'm well aware that the rumor in this link becomes easily refutable towards the end, but the beginning kind of creeped me out when I was reading it last night.
I also stumbled across a post (http://community.livejournal.com/pokemon/1575631.html) about how Ash actually fell into a coma during the pokemon anime, and how episodes following the first were his dreams. It's a pretty interesting read, but it is very, VERY tl;dr if you have a short attention span like I usually do. Somehow I managed to get to the end of this one, though. Again, some of it's kind of far-fetched (lolz, I made a pun), but you have to think of how awesome it would be if the episode writers were actually capable of coming up with this sort of scenario.
And Cerebus...Sweet Jesus jumping on a pogo stick. What the hell?
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The bootleg ROM is based off of the Creepy Black creepypasta, or so says my aunt at GameFreak.
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Again, some of it's kind of far-fetched (lolz, I made a pun), but you have to think of how awesome it would be if the episode writers were actually capable of coming up with this sort of scenario.
And Cerebus...Sweet Jesus jumping on a pogo stick. What the hell?
I don't know, I'm not such a fan of the "It was all a dream" things, be it from coma or just sleeping. Perhaps there's some more interesting things in there, but... I don't really feel like reading much right now, yeah.
I've also watched a video about the Majora's Mask thing. Well... half-watched. Okay, 1/8 watched, all right... pretty interesting. Yet, I would've liked to see this BEN file.
And what, isn't she cute, smiling and waving at the camera?
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I don't know, I'm not such a fan of the "It was all a dream" things, be it from coma or just sleeping.
I'm not either. The only reason I find it interesting is because the writer manages to come up with some interesting explanations for why the characters in his dream are who they are and why certain things happen. For instance, it explains why Ash never actually becomes pokemon master - because then he would have realized his dream, and the dream would end. Instead, he often winds up letting his best pokemon go or leaving them in Professor Oak's lab when he could undoubtedly be using them to win future tournaments. It also uses the coma as an explanation of why Ash never ages physically throughout the series - he's trapped in a dream. There are a lot of interesting metaphors such as Giovanni and the rockets representing Ash's absent father and his desire to someday appease him (think of how Jesse, James, and Meowth are always trying to earn his favor) and how Brock represents his repressed sexuality, etc.
Now, keep in mind that I used to be a psychology major, so a lot of this might be more interesting to me than it is to you. The reason it is interesting isn't because he's in a coma but because of some of the metaphors that the author comes up with. Think of the Silent Hill games, for instance. At surface-level, they're just scary survival-horror games. If you look deeper into them, everything represents something in the main character's mind. That's more of the appeal that the post has, rather than to make the pokemon series part of one big cliche dream sequence.
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That's quite interesting, actually. Always found the Psychology domain interesting, though kinda complicated... I love the Silent Hill franchise because of this. Most creatures just look like creepy monsters, but there's something deep behind them, their presence and appearance are there for a reason.. I suppose I should try reading it some times. Assuming it's not Novel sized...
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Well I think it's horseshit. But that's just me.
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Did you mean "Darumaka droppings" ?
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Exactly.
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I finally managed to capture Thundorous. Power to me! Too bad I just keep those legendaries in a pile.
Anyone used this Dreamworld thingy yet? The global link and stuff?