Originally posted by Meiscool
This sounds pretty ghey.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
I think somebody should start a thread, strictly for Bonking sake.
See how quick You can get bonked.
Or maybe I could try i here....it sounds like an applpenisicable idea that would further my ability to test the capajewboobiepoohragbilities of the mods bonking powers.
Originally posted by Meiscool
THANKYOU FELLA MODERATORS/MIDNIGHT.
Originally posted by Osmose
I'll hold you to that twenty dollars.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
I havent got bonked. I guess Hiding vulgarities within words is fair gayme.
Um.....I hate to say this, but this is retarded...a Slap on the wrist...pfft.
This isnt going to accomplish anything....People who get temporarily banned are just going to start a temporary account to rant-spam the thread that was the source of their bonk. You guys dont think resorting to anonymous nazism is gonna solve anything do you?
Hows this......
If TWO mods agree, then they should have "bonking/lamewadgestapo" privilages....And they should have to be Man up b@lls-out enough about it to post their names.What are they hiding?
Seriously....This is going to have about the same result of a Rent-a-cop kicking kids out of a Mall.
The kids are just going to come in through other entrances, to make the Guards jobs harder.
Not that I want to get banned, or am planning on it or anything of the likes......
But honestly.......
And then, to boot, youre going to have to open a seperate thread for Bonk-Disputes.
You seem to think this is going to make your job easier, but its just going to make things out of hand.
Are you planning on having a "notify Mod of Bonkworthy behavior" button? because if you dont, its a very mild for of fascism....."How about a myspace-esque "kudos" thing....Then the mods would have to recognise the amount of Anti-bonks any given member had to their credit.
Id like to have a small say, a nudge, if you will, in who gets bonked. What if say, Meiscool says something that Fundamentally upsets me. And the Mods happen to think its funny and lighthearted....Wheres the "anonymous complaint system" to deal with that?
Youve implemented a DEMERIT system, with no option of acredation.
This is silly, you guys.
This thread has already become a joke. Read this sh!t.....
Is this your idea of order?
Bonk me if you will, but this is Bu!!$hit.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
But why make your job harder?
How long did they think this over?
It sounds like the kind of crap thought up during a session of bong hits.
A three strike youre out system would be far more effective....
Right now, its "Maybe if you get bonked enough, we'll ban you for a few days."
If you get 3 bonks, they should ban you....
Because this is freakin laughable.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
But why make your job harder?
How long did they think this over?
It sounds like the kind of crap thought up during a session of bong hits.
A three strike youre out system would be far more effective....
Right now, its "Maybe if you get bonked enough, we'll ban you for a few days."
If you get 3 bonks, they should ban you....
Because this is freakin laughable.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
You mean a "bong rips" topic? hehe
Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone?
Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks
quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone?
Let's say someone is being a jerk, and I send a PM to the person telling him to knock it off or whatever. The person reads it, and just thinks "Pfft, it's just FFL, I don't have to take him seriously!" and continues what he's doing regardless.
If you don't know who the mod is, then you can't just disregard it on account of not liking the particular mod who sent it for whatever reason.
Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks
quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone?
Let's say someone is being a jerk, and I send a PM to the person telling him to knock it off or whatever. The person reads it, and just thinks "Pfft, it's just FFL, I don't have to take him seriously!" and continues what he's doing regardless.
If you don't know who the mod is, then you can't just disregard it on account of not liking the particular mod who sent it for whatever reason.
Originally posted by DragonBlaze
This sounds VERY stupid. Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone?
What if someone got a bonk, but they don't know exactly what for, who would they contact if they had questions on what they did wrong?
We should just stick with mods PMing members or having them just point out what they did wrong in the topic. Members could then ask the mod on what they did wrong if they didn't understand the rule.
Mods shouldn't have to hide anything, especially their identity.
Originally posted by Black Massacre
quote: Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
You mean a "bong rips" topic? hehe
No!
Also, do bonks get recorded in the mod log file?
Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
quote: Originally posted by Black Massacre
quote: Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
You mean a "bong rips" topic? hehe
No!
Also, do bonks get recorded in the mod log file?
Not in the member one. I have checked.
Irony tells us that the log file shown to us was to let us view who did what, however this "tool" merely contradicts such thing.
Originally posted by Meiscool
quote: Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
quote: Originally posted by Black Massacre
quote: Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
You mean a "bong rips" topic? hehe
No!
Also, do bonks get recorded in the mod log file?
Not in the member one. I have checked.
Irony tells us that the log file shown to us was to let us view who did what, however this "tool" merely contradicts such thing.
Hey! Ure back! I thought you finally cut yourself or something.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Let me put it this way:
I don't CARE what you guys think about bonks.....we thought it would be a good idea, and unless you can prove DEFINITIVELY that it is a bad idea, we're not going to remove it. .
Say what you will, but know that it doesn't matter. And if you don't like that, deal with it. If you want to change it, go ahead and try.
Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
Stuff.
Originally posted by Meiscool
Kij: Yeah. I never thought you were emo. I just thought you were wierd and psychopathic.
Warxe: Charas would rule with me in charge, other then the fact that people would leave because I've been unruly deemed "irresponsible". Aside from that, at least I'm active.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
IHAS: Even if you knew who it was from, would you still pay it any mind?
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Kijuki: As I said, we're not going to put up with you. Spew anything you want, but the real reason you came back is to stir up trouble, and you know it. So don't feign ignorance.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Well, maybe some mods will put their names in them. Would that appease you, oh mighty master?
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
That doesn't make it right, either.
Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks
quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone?
Let's say someone is being a jerk, and I send a PM to the person telling him to knock it off or whatever. The person reads it, and just thinks "Pfft, it's just FFL, I don't have to take him seriously!" and continues what he's doing regardless.
If you don't know who the mod is, then you can't just disregard it on account of not liking the particular mod who sent it for whatever reason.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Okay, let's try this:
If we remade the system so that it shows the name of the person who bonked you, would you still have any problems with the concept?
MIC
Then it's the same as recieving a PM, just with a quip for a name.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
What if you can't access the main page?
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Let me put it this way:
I don't CARE what you guys think about bonks. Alex made the system because we thought it would be a good idea, and unless you can prove DEFINITIVELY that it is a bad idea, we're not going to remove it. Whining and saying "This is gay" is not proof.
Yeah, guess that makes me a fascist. Guess that also makes Lord Raffles right - the mod team's just a bunch of Jew-hating fascists who have no life, so we pick on inferior regular members.
This is like the whole Troll Kingdom thing - the whole thing fell apart because you guys didn't like Saikar's idea. Which is fine - this is the free world - but none of the mod team's ever claimed that Charas is a democracy. You guys get some say in the decisions around here, but it's ultimately up to us to decide on them.
Say what you will, but know that it doesn't matter. And if you don't like that, deal with it. If you want to change it, go ahead and try. Replace Saikar with Meiscool, and we'll see how long Charas lasts.
Kijuki: If you've come here just to be a nuisance, don't even bother. We're not going to put up with any of your shit.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
Stuff
How about Electing Mods? Ever give anyone that option?
Originally posted by Meiscool
Dearest Kij:
I think you somewhat discribe the idea of being crazy, though you might not fully understand it.
You contradict yourself horridly, and odds are you realize it but don't care. However, it becomes difficult for you to prove anything when you're so hypocritical and you can't admit it, hence rather then being a 'voice' for whatever idea you are trying to persaude upon us, you become an annoyance that'd we'd rather not deal with.
Pls wehn u cum on den type lik dis it hard to take u seriouly 8D.
Internet'd, Meiscool.
Originally posted by MrMister
quote: Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks
quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Seriously, WHY should a mod have to HIDE their identity when they're pointing out the rules to someone?
Let's say someone is being a jerk, and I send a PM to the person telling him to knock it off or whatever. The person reads it, and just thinks "Pfft, it's just FFL, I don't have to take him seriously!" and continues what he's doing regardless.
If you don't know who the mod is, then you can't just disregard it on account of not liking the particular mod who sent it for whatever reason.
The problem is, the only people I take seriously, don't go here anymore. So, I don't take bonks seriously. It's also sneaky, underhanded, and cowardly.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Gem, don't try to become a martyr. If you really dislike how this forum is run, either do something about it or leave - don't just whine about what we do wrong.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
"I dont care what you guys think"
Thats no way to treat any of us, simply for voicing our opinion on a newly instated, nil discussed policy.
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
See, this is why I love charas. One or two pages of violent yelling and such, then we all seem to have a giant love fest. Its like a real family XD
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
And I agree with you, MIC - we need to stop the mini-modding in the Requests forum. I don't know if you would be the first chosen for the position, though.
IHAS: XD
Well, we just tend to get... caught up in the moment, I guess. But we are a big family - an ugly, inbred family, possibly, but a family nonetheless.
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
quote: Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
And I agree with you, MIC - we need to stop the mini-modding in the Requests forum. I don't know if you would be the first chosen for the position, though.
IHAS: XD
Well, we just tend to get... caught up in the moment, I guess. But we are a big family - an ugly, inbred family, possibly, but a family nonetheless.
-I should be mod XD
-An inbred is right, who has sandwiches, skeletons, peoples, kirbies, and stick figures? What the hell is that?
But I hope you guys will read what I said about the wya you warn. I'm kind of tired of the broad non-descriptive method that is used. I got bonked, it didn't say what for. I know what it was for, but imagine I had left, and been unable to access for a few days, and it said I was bonked, and had the possibility of being banned. I wouldn't know or remember what for. I wouldn't even know who to ask about it.
Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
So yeah, my offer still remains. I don't think we'll make it mandatory to have a named bonk, but the mods will have the option of it. Same with reasons, examples, etc. A bonk count of some sort would probably be easy to do (Alex could modify the logfile to show bonks rather than mod actions). Anything else?
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
Then add names to it, and make it a fail proof warn! How hard is that to come up with! Put name, reason, examples, and behavior to correct IN A POLITE MANNER BEFITTING OF A MOD, not in a snide or rude manner
Originally posted by Meiscool
Dearest Kij:
I think you somewhat discribe the idea of being crazy, though you might not fully understand it.
You contradict yourself horridly, and odds are you realize it but don't care. However, it becomes difficult for you to prove anything when you're so hypocritical and you can't admit it, hence rather then being a 'voice' for whatever idea you are trying to persaude upon us, you become an annoyance that'd we'd rather not deal with.
Pls wehn u cum on den type lik dis it hard to take u seriouly 8D.
Internet'd, Meiscool.
Originally posted by Drace
Ain't I allowed to sleep without something happening? Damn you guys, every single time.
And "getting bonked" sounds so good when Mid sends one.
Originally posted by Shady Ultima
quote: Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
So yeah, my offer still remains. I don't think we'll make it mandatory to have a named bonk, but the mods will have the option of it. Same with reasons, examples, etc. A bonk count of some sort would probably be easy to do (Alex could modify the logfile to show bonks rather than mod actions). Anything else?
How about... for bonks directed towards senior members, such as IHAS, MIC, myself, etc (sorry to everyone I left out), the mod must leave their name. For a new member, it is not quite as important seeing as new members don't know the mods as well?
Originally posted by Razor
God damn you people.
Just because I get up one day, go into the city in the morning, then spend the night at a friends house, have a busy day, and don't come back to Charas til night, does not mean you can make a 7 page thread filled with fire and burning.
Jesus.
Virtually no one on this forum has had any respect for what a mod says for a long time.
Originally posted by SaiKar
For frick's sake...
No mod has to leave their name. I might put a "Hey, this is Sai, the admin, the person that can ban you, so listen up"
Don't like the system? That's tough. Virtually no one on this forum has had any respect for what a mod says for a long time.
Originally posted by SaiKar
I honestly don't see the big deal about the name thing. If a mod gives you a warning, you take it to heart. The name of the mod doesn't matter. Should we include where the mod lives, or what age he is, or his favorite type of pizza? No, none of those matter at all. Just like his name. If a police officer pulls you over for speeding, does his name change his authority? Does it get you out of a ticket? Even if he tells you his name, do you remember it five minutes after you get back on the road?
A mod sends a warning. The warning is recieved. That's it.
Originally posted by Ace of Spades
And Black Massacre, shut up you mini mod. :p
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
quote: Originally posted by SaiKar
I honestly don't see the big deal about the name thing. If a mod gives you a warning, you take it to heart. The name of the mod doesn't matter. Should we include where the mod lives, or what age he is, or his favorite type of pizza? No, none of those matter at all. Just like his name. If a police officer pulls you over for speeding, does his name change his authority? Does it get you out of a ticket? Even if he tells you his name, do you remember it five minutes after you get back on the road?
A mod sends a warning. The warning is recieved. That's it.
Thats a ridiculous rebuttal to my statment.
If a Cop gives me a ticket, and fails to provide His name on the ticket, the ticket is no good.
In fact, not only does the cop give his name, but He gives his serial number as well. He does this because thats What hes gotta do for that ticket to have ANY CREDIBILITY.
Ive actually gotten off of a charge because the Officer failed to identify himself properly on a ticket. He Didnt give his Badge number, and it was thrown out. I saved myself a big ticket.....and why?
Why was his authority no good?Because he didnt provide proper information.
So yeah dude, if a cop does pull me over and hand me a ticket....and dosent tell me his name in some way.....it does change it.
The same goes with any charge......If the arresting officer dosent provide information properly, than the charge is dropped.
I have idiot friends who sell drugs, that have gotten off of RIDICULOUSLY HUGE charges because of this too. The Authority gets gunhappy....
Seriously dude. Professional Courtesy.
I think if its a matter pertaining to anything Aside from petty spamming, the name should be given.....
I dont even understand why you would dispute this, aside from trying to infringe the authority, despite having a reasonable flaw in the system ppointed out, meerly for the sake of not wanting to admit you are supporting a slightly flawed idea.
Why dont you listen, man? Im not trying to Undermine you. Im trying to point out a flaw that is undermining your ability to conduct your duties in a professional manner.
Im trying to help dude. Would it kill you to actually consider what Im saying? No disrespect intended.
Originally posted by SaiKar
I honestly don't see the big deal about the name thing. If a mod gives you a warning, you take it to heart. The name of the mod doesn't matter. Should we include where the mod lives, or what age he is, or his favorite type of pizza? No, none of those matter at all. Just like his name. If a police officer pulls you over for speeding, does his name change his authority? Does it get you out of a ticket? Even if he tells you his name, do you remember it five minutes after you get back on the road?
A mod sends a warning. The warning is recieved. That's it.
Originally posted by aboutasoandthisI didn't think about it that way, and you're right on this. It can be circumstantial. I do still believe though that this thread has gotten way out of hand for no real reason.
When you step outta line, you usually don't know it yourself because it depends on a persons feelings.
I could make a blatently racist comment and not even know it because I've never known anyone hurt by it.
I could get bonked, and not really know what I did wrong.
Originally posted by Moosetroop11
Sammich and MIC aren't the only charas left ;)
Originally posted by MeiscoolI think you're just the most well-known because you both always have something to say about everything. :D
quote: Originally posted by Moosetroop11
Sammich and MIC aren't the only charas left ;)
We're the most popular though.
Originally posted by JaideI think you're just the most well-known because you both always have something to say about everything. :D
quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
quote: Originally posted by Moosetroop11
Sammich and MIC aren't the only charas left ;)
We're the most popular though.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
I havent been bonked
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
screw this mess....Im over it.....Im going to go eat a sammich.
Well of course not. If we bonked you for trying to make a reasonable point, we'd be the satan-worshipping animal-sacrificing neo-nazis Kijuki has made the mods out to be. Yes, slight over-exagguration.
Originally posted by Darkfox
quote: Well of course not. If we bonked you for trying to make a reasonable point, we'd be the satan-worshipping animal-sacrificing neo-nazis Kijuki has made the mods out to be. Yes, slight over-exagguration.
Yyyyyeah... we should tell you to work on those run-ons.
Originally posted by Meiscool
I want to post... I really do.... but I can't seem to find a topic to post on/about.
It's not very often I say this.... but this has absolutly nothing of value to speak about any longer.
Originally posted by plightofthepureblood
Obviouslly, Sai doesnt give a crap....
Sandwich
Thats not the point. Lets say that a mod says "Bonk for blah blah blah". You may think "When did I do that?" adn would like to know where you did so maybe you can know what you did, but guess what? You dont know who sent it to you, so you dont know who to ask. How can you be expected to not do something when you aren't even sure where/what you did?
I assume you haven't gotten a bonk yet? It includes a subject and a message. A good bonk would be something like "You posted links to illegal material in (this thread). That's against Charas rules, which you can see (here). Don't do it again." There's nothing really confusing there, no questions that need to be answered.
If for some reason you still have questions, just ask the mod of the board where you're being accused of something, or a global mod like me or Razor. Even if we didn't send you the bonk we all know the rules and should be able to clear anything up.[/B]
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
quote: I assume you haven't gotten a bonk yet? It includes a subject and a message. A good bonk would be something like "You posted links to illegal material in (this thread). That's against Charas rules, which you can see (here). Don't do it again." There's nothing really confusing there, no questions that need to be answered.
If for some reason you still have questions, just ask the mod of the board where you're being accused of something, or a global mod like me or Razor. Even if we didn't send you the bonk we all know the rules and should be able to clear anything up.
Remember what happens when we assume Sai. I have gotten a bump. Know what it contained? A very general "Don't do that" type message and a threat of a 3 day ban. It was exactly like every PM warning that I've recieved.[/B]
Originally posted by charaman
can you bonk me? I'm so very interested.
Originally posted by MrMister
quote: Originally posted by charaman
can you bonk me? I'm so very interested.
Do something bonkworthy, lazy-bones.
Also, it wouldn't be a legitamate bonk. Everyone needs to be quiet and respect whoever made this decision's decision.
maybe we will also do something for you to see who was bonked and how many times.
Who knows, maybe we will also make public access to bonks messages themselves, which will show the entire world what the staff told to you. So the staff is warned (they can't abuse of this), but you will have no chance to say they bonked you unfairly. But this is up to be. As of now, only who has access to the database (which means only ME) can see all sent bonks texts. And as far i can see, they were not abused at all, and the messages was fully motivated."
Originally posted by MrMister
Mid, you locked it right while I was in the middle of a sweet post ;_;
Well, I will now try to recreate it from memory:
Kijuki, quit being crazy. Does 'tone' really matter that much? Or do you just hate SaiKar so much that you are searching for reasons to make long-winded whiny posts? You are usually a good guy, please stop being a shitdisturber.
Originally posted by Razor
Ahh, Alex. He always puts us in order. Cheers to the big man!
Originally posted by SaiKar
Hmph. Admin or not, bringing on 10 more pages of arguments or not, I have to say it.
Kijuki, I tire of your accusations of power abuse. If I wanted to I could have banned you weeks ago, and I would have been able to make a strong case that it wasn't an abuse. You've become akin to Raffles now, a carrion crow that follows Charas around and pours salt on is wounds. The only difference is that Raffles KNEW he was trolling and didn't believe a word he was saying. All you do is wait for something to happen and jump in with a "AHA! My predictions of doom are coming true!" You tell us to shape up, but it is you who offers no concrete ideas and vanishes for weeks at a time, only springing up when there is some issue for you to grind into the ground.
Seriously, leave Kijuki. You turned from a great member of the community to its cancer. You don't want to cooperate with the staff. You aren't interested in being a content normal member. You want changes and don't care if you make this place unfun for everyone else. The staff is sick of it, the rest of the members say your little revolution sucks. Find another forum to troll.
You accuse of of being rude. I accuse YOU of being rude. You and other vocal members that for some bizzare reason have to make a big deal about everything. Listen up. Just because you guys have an idea and we don't like it, this doesn't mean you're being ignored. It means we think it's a bad idea. The staff listens to your input (otherwise this wouldn't be a 10 page thread!) but we are under NO obligation to bow to your whims if we think they aren't good ideas. Several people around here are bullying my staff into corners with nonsense about democracy and freedom. As Alex said, we're very soft here. Nobody has gotten banned over this bloody debate. The damn thread is still open. And you DARE accuse us of being tyrannical and rude?!
I have had it about up to here with certain people. You don't like how this place is run? You want to stir up trouble about a feature that ONLY AFFECTS PEOPLE THAT STIR UP TROUBLE?! As Alex said, if you have so dark of an opinion of this place, leave now. Go on, find your so-called better forums and leave the rest of us to talk about RPGMaker stuff in peace. It's getting to the point where I wonder if just shutting the whole place down would be a better move than continuing this dance.