Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2007, 08:56:06 PM
Seem people are managing put the past at the past.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 12, 2007, 08:59:57 PM
Which this is, BTW.
Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2007, 09:08:00 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 12, 2007, 09:11:11 PM
Then I hate this topic.
Post by: Bluhman on September 12, 2007, 09:25:56 PM
Though I think it's because I'm in the same state that the attack happened, but seriously, come on. It takes me about 12 goddamned hours to drive from here to New York.
Post by: Akaroku on September 12, 2007, 09:27:54 PM
That sounds harsh, but we've had worse days in history :(
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on September 12, 2007, 09:32:20 PM
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Originally posted by Akaroku
Boo hoo, alalalas hit the trade center, people died, like... 3 or 2 years ago, let's let it go, please?
That sounds harsh, but we've had worse days in history :(
Yeah, like your birth
Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2007, 09:33:37 PM
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Originally posted by Akaroku
Boo hoo, alalalas hit the trade center, people died, like... 3 or 2 years ago, let's let it go, please?
That sounds harsh, but we've had worse days in history :(
6 years ago.
Post by: Akaroku on September 12, 2007, 09:45:51 PM
Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2007, 09:48:13 PM
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I'm not good with time. ;( And yeah, it was a worse moment in history when I was born :D, but you know what? I plan not to be around long, I'll just get done with what I want to do in my life, and disappear from society.
Uh... yay?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 12, 2007, 10:27:15 PM
Then I had cheerios
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on September 12, 2007, 10:30:51 PM
Post by: Cosmos on September 12, 2007, 10:56:21 PM
I agree, there are worse things.. like new orleans or the tsunami.. but I'm not sure everyone's ready to let it go. As annoying as it is or may be to sit around and listen to people who cry over ppl they love who died... the boo hoo comment was insensitive even for my own standards. Mabbe ppl need to watch their words more carefully to avoid looking like an idiot..? Not everyone can take the humor you dish out. <<
Post by: Akaroku on September 12, 2007, 10:58:32 PM
I guess I'm just a little too insensitive...
Post by: Cosmos on September 12, 2007, 11:01:34 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 12, 2007, 11:46:37 PM
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Oh god.. what's worse is the topics about the surprise of not having a 9-11 topic. :p
I agree, there are worse things.. like new orleans or the tsunami.. but I'm not sure everyone's ready to let it go. As annoying as it is or may be to sit around and listen to people who cry over ppl they love who died... the boo hoo comment was insensitive even for my own standards. Mabbe ppl need to watch their words more carefully to avoid looking like an idiot..? Not everyone can take the humor you dish out. <<
Oh wow. Did you really just relate a natural disaster with a few hundred casualties to people flying a ****ing plane into a building. Did you really? What the **** Mid? Srsly. Anyways, I still care, really, I do. But no one else does, so **** me if I'm going to make a topic so people can go "Lol buck fush lol."
Oh, and akaroku, stfu. k? thx. I mean that.
Post by: Archem on September 12, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 12, 2007, 11:52:15 PM
Post by: Cosmos on September 12, 2007, 11:53:49 PM
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Oh wow. Did you really just relate a natural disaster with a few hundred casualties to people flying a ****ing plane into a building. Did you really? What the **** Mid? Srsly. Anyways, I still care, really, I do. But no one else does, so **** me if I'm going to make a topic so people can go "Lol buck fush lol."
Oh, and akaroku, stfu. k? thx. I mean that.
Yes dear, I did and I'm glad you noticed. :heart:
Well we've only got one more year to deal with the war... UNLESS our new beloved president *go Hillary!!* decides to continue with it!
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 12, 2007, 11:57:01 PM
...
I am lying but it lays perspective in massive damage. But at least something like that had to happen. Sadly.
Post by: Archem on September 12, 2007, 11:57:21 PM
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 12:03:34 AM
Also, I hate how ppl try to use an event for their own personal gains.. <<
And I'd think it'd be really awsome to have a clinton in the white house again. More Bill and his whacky comments. I mean, least they're funny compared to bushes.. _sweat_
Post by: Akaroku on September 13, 2007, 12:05:37 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 12:07:18 AM
At least Bill cared for the INTERNETZ. While Bush has no damn clue what a right click is
Post by: Archem on September 13, 2007, 12:10:04 AM
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More Bill and his whacky comments. I mean, least they're funny compared to bushes.. _sweat_
Wow, that's a very convincing argument. I mean it. Theree's nothing I like more than a politician who's funny because he's actually trying to be.
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 13, 2007, 12:17:05 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 12:21:50 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 12:22:08 AM
Anyways, read any number of the reports and articles by members of the press, the white house staff, the secret service, etc. Hillary Clinton, is by all means, one of the most two-faced bitches on the planet. Speaking of "people using things for their own gain," thats all she does. Her goal is to gain power, and she'll do anything to get it. Hell, when Bill was in the white house, do you think she wasn't trying to control it then? There are very few people in this world that I truly hate everything about them, but she is one of them. On another not, the whole "It takes a village" idea is flawed in itself. Really.
As for the '08 election, I'm yet to see someone that I can stand by.
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 12:23:10 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 12:24:56 AM
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GAH. MID. WHAT THE ****. GAH. HILLARY. WHAT THE ****. DO YOU NOT KNOW ANYTHING. GAH.
Anyways, read any number of the reports and articles by members of the press, the white house staff, the secret service, etc. Hillary Clinton, is by all means, one of the most two-faced bitches on the planet. Speaking of "people using things for their own gain," thats all she does. Her goal is to gain power, and she'll do anything to get it. Hell, when Bill was in the white house, do you think she wasn't trying to control it then? There are very few people in this world that I truly hate everything about them, but she is one of them. On another not, the whole "It takes a village" idea is flawed in itself. Really.
As for the '08 election, I'm yet to see someone that I can stand by.
AWNOLD. Oh wait.
Eh, that show is retarted. But well, it's a George DUBELYA Bush show.
Post by: Akaroku on September 13, 2007, 12:25:01 AM
Personally, I haven't seen much of anyone I can stand by as a President, though my ideas of a President is someone who actually gives a flying fsk about the country and it's people. Someone who doesn't say that he/she will do this or that just to gain votes, but someone who actually stands by what they say, not by what they say to gain favor.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 12:35:10 AM
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I agree with you about Hilary and the candidates, Zero, even you told me stfu, which was right, I'll continue to talk about the ideas.
Personally, I haven't seen much of anyone I can stand by as a President, though my ideas of a President is someone who actually gives a flying fsk about the country and it's people. Someone who doesn't say that he/she will do this or that just to gain votes, but someone who actually stands by what they say, not by what they say to gain favor.
Exactly. I don't want to hear how you served in the army because its the cool thing to do, or how you "Feel sorry for the people in New Orleans" when there was AMPLE time to evacuate, but they had elected a ****ing moron for mayor. I just want someone to come out and say what they will do, cut and dry. I don't need personality, I don't need likability, I want someone that will do their ****ing job.
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 12:38:51 AM
Post by: Akaroku on September 13, 2007, 12:40:35 AM
Plus it's a dumb fact to REBUILD in a place that can SINK!
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 12:44:09 AM
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wasn't it that they didn't know about the hurricane? And weren't most of the ppl there poor..?
No, its a hurricane, they're not like deer on the highway. They don't just jump out in front of you. Plus, evacuation, ie, government buses. Did you not watch the news before it hit. Where they showed prepped buses that he didn't send out? And no mid, most of the 'ppl' weren't poor. Yes, some were, but there were also those that were middle class, all of them with the ability to leave. The media just doesn't show the regular people. After all, how can you get sympathy by showing a middle class white guy?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 12:46:01 AM
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Originally posted by Midnight
wasn't it that they didn't know about the hurricane? And weren't most of the ppl there poor..?
they knew about it, but they didnt do squat about it. They thought it wasn't going to be bad, but BAM.
And poorness is not an excuse.
When Dean was about to hit Mexico last month, the worst-to-be effected place were quickly adviced and evacuated AND/or sheltered. Luckly there was no real damage as expected, but if Dean would've hit at his Level 5 greatness, only the physical destruction would've happened.
Edit: Of course you can say this is due to the awareness of what happened with Katrina, but still. IT SHOWS aldnalndflands
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 12:52:32 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 12:55:09 AM
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Edit: Of course you can say this is due to the awareness of what happened with Katrina, but still. IT SHOWS aldnalndflands
XD No you can't, because that wasn't the first time hurricane evacuations have occured. They've happened before Katrina, and it was something that should have been done but wasn;t.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 12:57:17 AM
Midnight said that? What! your quote bug confuses me!
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 01:00:35 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 01:04:34 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyXQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Edit: Of course you can say this is due to the awareness of what happened with Katrina, but still. IT SHOWS aldnalndflands
XD No you can't, because that wasn't the first time hurricane evacuations have occured. They've happened before Katrina, and it was something that should have been done but wasn;t.[/B]
That's why I said you (someone other than me) can. Cause I totally agree with you :P Not you from before but now you.
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 13, 2007, 01:45:19 AM
So.... yeah. There's my rant.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 02:08:44 AM
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I hate Bush. I hate him more than I have ever hated almost anyone else, since he started the damn war in Iraq, which, in the end, killed my brother. I hate only whatever son of a bitch killed him more than Bush. During Katrina, that dumbass played golf in California. The man can't even define "leadership" without ****ing up. How he's managed to stay president for eight years is beyond me, hell so is how he even got elected in the first place! I'm old enough to vote, but in the end I'm probably going to vote for someone who promises to end the war ASAP, and understands that ending it may not make us the most popular country. Honestly, I couldn't care less who leads this country, since, as of June 2008, I'll be an official resident in Canada. I can't stand the U.S.
So.... yeah. There's my rant.
Lulz
Post by: Shady Ultima on September 13, 2007, 02:20:36 AM
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Originally posted by Akaroku
Boo hoo, alalalas hit the trade center, people died, like... 3 or 2 years ago, let's let it go, please?
That sounds harsh, but we've had worse days in history :(
I'm not an American, but until Sept 11, I didn't think there was any danger to us. I live VERY close to the Can - Us border, and even though NY is pretty far from me, and any major Canadian cities are as well, it put fear in my heart, among hundreds of thousands of other people.
I hope we can get over the fear, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon. You say worse things have happened in history? Well, I know a LOT of people say "Look at the Holocaust" and other things. Sure there have been worse days, but not really for America. And not so suddenly and without warning (to the common people, at the very least)
And it's also harsh to say that because, even though there have been worse days in history, people still lost loved ones. What if it was YOUR mother, father, brother, sister, wife, husband (and so on) that died that day. Would you still say "Boo hoo"? No, you'd remember their memory, and how those bastards cut their lives short. Those people did not deserve to die, what did they do wrong? Live in a good country, and go to work that day? How is that a crime that deserves their death?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 02:34:30 AM
Post by: Blue_Strife on September 13, 2007, 02:55:01 AM
o.o
-waits for it-
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 02:59:33 AM
Truth is: Terrorists won that day. believe it or not. whoever the hell really was behind it all.
And: Osama didn't plan it, so fail.
ALSO:
Have you read/seen/heard how many bombings have been foiled lately?
Post by: Archem on September 13, 2007, 03:18:18 AM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 13, 2007, 03:18:28 AM
Post by: Archem on September 13, 2007, 03:45:00 AM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 13, 2007, 03:52:15 AM
Sure, feel sad about the lost ones but seriously? Why the hell would the leader of the US suddenly go out and demand that all other friggin' country has to keep a silent minute for the dead? Every single school in Sweden had this **** and no one knew about neither americans or any people involved... As in, it had absolutely nothing to do with us back here.
About as many peopel died during the tsunamies in Thailand and there were quite a lot of Swedish people down there at the moment who actually took some damage, but no. No minute for their honour no... Just a "We got the school-shrink if anyone needs to talk through these hard times." We actually had abot three people in my class who either lost or got a relative hurt.
And yes, America is all hyped about 9/11 as it is about the most intresting thing that has happened to them since Pearl Harbor, just a good thing that they didn't drop another bomb. But then again, the oil would be ruined by it as well.
No, I won't ramble any more than this, have a nice day.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 03:59:43 AM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 13, 2007, 04:19:28 AM
And could you mention one act of terrorism sicne 9/11? I sure can't think of one. Sure there are terrorists, sure there are rapists. Everyone got their ideals and are willing ot do what it takes to get what they want. It's not like making the people fear them will do any good. Sure go out and say "Citizens of USA, we've been attacked by terrorists and will probably be so again... Arm Thyneselvth!" but that won't do that much more good than striking fear into the people.
But seriously? Is this not the very reason we got these fire-tests in school? Where a teacher sets of the fire alarm and everyoneleaves the building? It's not like they do that so the kids will begin to run in panic and push their way through the crowds.
They do it so people will still remain calm during a moment like this.
Making everything in-flameable and saying that you can't bring matces is good yes, but when you not only ban matches but also toothpicks because their simalirty, that is going too far. They can not catch on fire unless another match lights them, they are nto a threat and yet they are being treated in a degrading way because some of the thoothpicks took up a top and became
matches.
And then holywood comes and make a bunch of lame-*** shows and movies about the Iraq wars and such so that you will support this cause but it really only creates yet another holywood steriotype of an Iraqian citizen as a decieving man who most probably is a terrorist because of that... That's just wrong, I doubt any of you would actually be able to just be comfortable with the fact that you have an Iraque next to you in the bus, but the truth is that the chances that the handsome young man next you on the bus is a rapist is about three-times larger.
And no, I won't continue now, that was about enough.
Post by: Ben on September 13, 2007, 04:38:22 AM
I go out with my lady for a night.....one night, and theres like, four pages of semi heated rant. thats awesome.... trade them political views
i agree with ZKX in that you cant compare an act of god to an act of agression
I also think that alot of the 'foiled bombings' are staged media ruses.
i think pretty much 40-70 % or all 'objective' media outlets are pretty much puppeted. i think if you believe the fine print of what the news tells you, you deserve to be shoved into a box, and shot....then have your thighs filleted.
I think constantly talking about 911 or them thar terrorists. i think the "bad guys" and the "Good guys" are the same wallet. And that wallet owns itself...it jumps into the pockets of bush's and blairs, and pulls strings.
i think nutella is delightfull.
Post by: zuhane1 on September 13, 2007, 05:59:03 AM
Post by: Razor on September 13, 2007, 06:06:33 AM
And don't ask for a source because I'm quoting someone else on the internet and I don't know how accurate that figure is.
Oh, and Luke, that comic you posted: It shows the raw stupidity of deviantart commentors. :p
Post by: Blue_Strife on September 13, 2007, 06:18:29 AM
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I certainly don't care much about 9/11 much these days. Nearly 3,000 people died on that one day then, but since then in the war 24,000 people have died.
And don't ask for a source because I'm quoting someone else on the internet and I don't know how accurate that figure is.
Oh, and Luke, that comic you posted: It shows the raw stupidity of deviantart commentors. :p
Pretty much.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 13, 2007, 02:18:32 PM
I´m really looking into the possibility of leaving here and moving to some other country. How good is England, btw?
And please, don't give that "Dood! Ur gunna giv up ur country? Dat's week!", because here people seem to actually like to suffering and don't give a sh!t! They don't move, don't protest. I DO give a sh!t, but alone I can't do nothing. So, "fight them or join them"? No ****ing way, I refuse to become corrupt. I prefer leaving and live happily somewhere else. "Dood, ur ignorin teh poblem, it's liek, ur fakin 2 b blind!" Ya ya, fuk you, I have about 60 more to live, do you expect me to spend my life trying to save other people's butt while they sit around the TV pretending it's all right? Gimme a break, I have the right to live my life.
Oh yeah, btw, did London police learn how to recognize brazillians? I don't went to be mistaken for a Al Qaeda terrorist...My grandfather IS egypcian (seriously.), but I don't look THAT much like a explosive-belt-dude...
Post by: Grandy on September 13, 2007, 03:20:40 PM
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And it's also harsh to say that because, even though there have been worse days in history, people still lost loved ones. What if it was YOUR mother, father, brother, sister, wife, husband (and so on) that died that day. Would you still say "Boo hoo"? No, you'd remember their memory, and how those bastards cut their lives short. Those people did not deserve to die, what did they do wrong? Live in a good country, and go to work that day? How is that a crime that deserves their death?
I just knew this was going to happen sooner or later.
Did you know?
- That there were 2 plane crashes in the last 4 months (or so) in Brasil, which could have been avoided if the people who were supposed to take care of the landing raod thing actually did their job?
- That over 3 people dies a day on our slums?
- That my cousin almost died because a doctor gave her a medicine before checking if she was alergic to it? She now looks like Notredame's Hunchback, seriously. It is said she won't live more than 6 years from now.
- A pacifist protest over here ended in a small one-night civil war beetwen police and whoever was at the streets.
- Don't get me started at how the politics work here, a politcian managed not to be arrested because he had the legal power to say "I will not be arrested" and HE WAS NOT ARRESTED BECAUSE OF THAT.
And then people come here and fill my beautiful thread about how I should mourn.
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 04:03:42 PM
Post by: Grandy on September 13, 2007, 05:30:00 PM
But I guess I made myself clear, basically it's a 'yeah, I'm sorry about your losses, but please stop throwing this thing at OUR media every year.'
Also, I got a little carried away and almost turned this thing in a 911 topic, in which it should be an 912 topic.
Post by: Razor on September 13, 2007, 07:46:48 PM
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I´m really looking into the possibility of leaving here and moving to some other country. How good is England, btw?
England rawks. It's full of MooseTroop11s and Dragoniums.
Post by: Archem on September 13, 2007, 07:59:50 PM
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 13, 2007, 08:14:02 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
By "us" you mean...ghosts like you?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 08:24:11 PM
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Um in case we all forgot... that was the SECOND attempt on the twin towers... Although for some reason no one really talks about the first attempt. Yeah... most of us are too busy with our own personal problems that we don't concern ourselves with the "bigger" problems. It's something natural.
*cough*birds dyeing*cough*
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 08:35:47 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Um in case we all forgot... that was the SECOND attempt on the twin towers... Although for some reason no one really talks about the first attempt. Yeah... most of us are too busy with our own personal problems that we don't concern ourselves with the "bigger" problems. It's something natural.
*cough*birds dyeing*cough*[/B]
*thwacks* _veryangry_ Picking on mid, eh? :p
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 13, 2007, 08:39:00 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
1: I agree with Archem 999.9867%
2: What would we call it?
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 08:42:20 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightQuoteOriginally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Um in case we all forgot... that was the SECOND attempt on the twin towers... Although for some reason no one really talks about the first attempt. Yeah... most of us are too busy with our own personal problems that we don't concern ourselves with the "bigger" problems. It's something natural.
*cough*birds dyeing*cough*[/B]
*thwacks* _veryangry_ Picking on mid, eh? :p[/B]
Lies. I've never done such thing. Nose picking in the other hand..
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
YES. CHARAS ISLAND. I LIKE IT. NO POLITICAL ANIMOSITY. WE FORM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE OUR OWN SOCIETY. YES. AWESOME.
And turtles. We have to have turtles.
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 09:45:33 PM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 13, 2007, 10:15:17 PM
Is the Federal Government directly responsible for both incidents, no. They do show that we as a country screw up a lot.
- New Orleans, the
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- Sure there were buses to evactuate but really, where would these people go? If you don't have a family or something to help take care of you, you can't go anywhere. If you were to go up to a black person from that enviornment, and tell them to their face that their house was going to get leveled,
- The Levies
- Who cares if Katrina didn't have as many casualties as 9/11. These people had to sit on their roofs for days with out food, water, and facilities. The water below them is filled with ****.
- The Media
- There are a lot of gangs in New Orleans.
I'm not saying this couldn't have been prevented, but the Government (and even us as a people) REALLY screwed up.
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 10:55:44 PM
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by MidnightQuoteOriginally posted by Hackershttp://charas-project.net/forum/postreply.php?forumid=12&catid=6&threadid=21233&action=quotepost&type=2&postid=313324
.: Charas Forums :.TotalMassLaserQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Um in case we all forgot... that was the SECOND attempt on the twin towers... Although for some reason no one really talks about the first attempt. Yeah... most of us are too busy with our own personal problems that we don't concern ourselves with the "bigger" problems. It's something natural.
*cough*birds dyeing*cough*[/B]
*thwacks* _veryangry_ Picking on mid, eh? :p[/B]
Lies. I've never done such thing. Nose picking in the other hand..[/B]
LOL!!
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There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
YES. CHARAS ISLAND. I LIKE IT. NO POLITICAL ANIMOSITY. WE FORM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE OUR OWN SOCIETY. YES. AWESOME.
And turtles. We have to have turtles.[/B]
I love you for this post. :D
Some ppl are trying to help ppl from new orleans. I've heard of hotels giving some of the homeless rooms for a couple of months until they got back on their feet. Course I also heard that they tried kicking some of these ppl out because they overstayed their welcome. And I've heard of ppl giving families space in their homes. Some celebs like Oprah and Ty penninton have taken it upon themselves to build new homes for families. Some celebs even went so far as to give ppl the clothes off their backs.
And I dunno.. from what I saw on the news, orleans wasn't going to survive a flooding unless I guess the sea was blocked off with a hurricane barrier. And no everyone could just pack up and go.. although maybe they can.. but lack will power..? I dunno. And as for the mayor, I heard he personally requested for one of the cars *army tank or some crap* to go to his house and get his personal belongings. Jackass.
It was known in advance, there should've been some kind of evacuation procedure of sorts prepared. You can just as easley force *or try, lol* ppl outta their houses if their lives are in danger. As for the gangs, I heard that it started to get real bad in that dome everyone was living in. They started fighting, stealing, catching and raping the kids. And how long were they all in there?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 11:19:11 PM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 13, 2007, 11:33:11 PM
And to reply:
They should've used scare tactics. Though that probably would've ended in chaos, but that's what it ended up in anyway.
Also:
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Hackershttp://charas-project.net/forum/postreply.php?forumid=12&catid=6&threadid=21233&action=quotepost&type=2&postid=313324
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The hell? kndaflndslfansdf
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 11:40:29 PM
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Whoa, did mid just pull a 180?
No, never.
And like what the hell is up with the quote button!? I thought alex fix'd it. -.-..
Post by: Archem on September 13, 2007, 11:43:58 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyXQuoteOriginally posted by Archem2
There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
YES. CHARAS ISLAND. I LIKE IT. NO POLITICAL ANIMOSITY. WE FORM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE OUR OWN SOCIETY. YES. AWESOME.
And turtles. We have to have turtles.[/B]
For this, you become the head of my military on this island. Which I am the gentle Dictator for Life of.
Post by: Grandy on September 13, 2007, 11:43:59 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
About interbreed, you're aware that we have only 1 1/2 females here, right?
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 13, 2007, 11:45:04 PM
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And I dunno.. from what I saw on the news, orleans wasn't going to survive a flooding unless I guess the sea was blocked off with a hurricane barrier. And no everyone could just pack up and go.. although maybe they can.. but lack will power..? I dunno. And as for the mayor, I heard he personally requested for one of the cars *army tank or some crap* to go to his house and get his personal belongings. Jackass.
Okay this I didn't know about. <.<
Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2007, 11:45:12 PM
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 13, 2007, 11:57:12 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2QuoteOriginally posted by ZeroKirbyXQuoteOriginally posted by Archem2
There should be an island that belongs exclusively to us. We could all live there and interbreed and ignore the assholes in other countries.
YES. CHARAS ISLAND. I LIKE IT. NO POLITICAL ANIMOSITY. WE FORM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE OUR OWN SOCIETY. YES. AWESOME.
And turtles. We have to have turtles.[/B]
For this, you become the head of my military on this island. Which I am the gentle Dictator for Life of.[/B]
Aye sir. I shall serve ye well.
Post by: Grandy on September 13, 2007, 11:57:36 PM
Okay, so we have 2 females:
1 - Mid
1/2 - Meiscool
1/2 - Sai'Kar
Post by: Archem on September 14, 2007, 12:03:12 AM
Post by: HackersTotalMassLaser on September 14, 2007, 12:04:21 AM
And sadly those are the only ones I can name.
WHoly Shig; that's not that many.
Post by: Grandy on September 14, 2007, 12:05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Archem2
Well, sharing is a big issue here... We're all mature enough to share here, right?
Aye, sir, however it must be noted that even so I guess sooner or later we'll have to elect someone else to be "Meiscooled" as we call it, sir.
Post by: coasterkrazy on September 14, 2007, 12:14:35 AM
Oh, and Archem, I lol'd at that one. How true, but who cares! At least I'm up and smiling today.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 14, 2007, 12:29:46 AM
I'd be honored.
However, Midnight is all mine. Us girls gotta stick together.
Post by: Archem on September 14, 2007, 12:59:00 AM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
However, Midnight is all mine.
Now now, that defies the law of shares. Zeek! To the dungeons with him!
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 14, 2007, 01:02:39 AM
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 14, 2007, 03:42:15 AM
Post by: Phayre on September 14, 2007, 10:30:22 AM
I suddenly remember why I love this place.
On a side note, I just remembered that Deval Patrick, one of the stupider politicians I've ever had the misfortune to meet (as a result of Phayre's institutional life, she hates them all, actually, and thinks they're all full of poo) called the events of 9/11 "mean, nasty, and bitter". After a day full of long, involved, melodramatic reports from people who didn't seem to actually give a crap and were just trying to look good on TV..... that just made my day. "Ohhhh, Mr. Hijacker, that's not very nice!" I laughed so hard.
...as for being female.... perhaps if I were to stop using male avatars all the time? How about a cutesy fuzzy bunny creature?
Post by: Grandy on September 14, 2007, 01:56:49 PM
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Originally posted by Phayre
From no 9/11 topics to.... saltines?
I suddenly remember why I love this place.
On a side note, I just remembered that Deval Patrick, one of the stupider politicians I've ever had the misfortune to meet (as a result of Phayre's institutional life, she hates them all, actually, and thinks they're all full of poo) called the events of 9/11 "mean, nasty, and bitter". After a day full of long, involved, melodramatic reports from people who didn't seem to actually give a crap and were just trying to look good on TV..... that just made my day. "Ohhhh, Mr. Hijacker, that's not very nice!" I laughed so hard.
...as for being female.... perhaps if I were to stop using male avatars all the time? How about a cutesy fuzzy bunny creature?
A third femlae has been spotted, sir!
We shall not have to listen to that wrench Mid anymore!
Post by: Dragonium on September 14, 2007, 05:46:57 PM
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Originally posted by Grandy
We shall not have to listen to that wrench Mid anymore!
Wrench?
Grandy you silly arse.
Post by: Grandy on September 14, 2007, 06:14:32 PM
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Originally posted by DragoniumQuoteOriginally posted by Grandy
We shall not have to listen to that wrench Mid anymore!
Wrench?
Grandy you silly arse.[/B]
Aye, I don't know what that means, but I've seen it used a lot mate.
Post by: Cosmos on September 14, 2007, 07:11:18 PM
Post by: Dragonium on September 14, 2007, 07:34:38 PM
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Originally posted by GrandyQuoteOriginally posted by DragoniumQuoteOriginally posted by Grandy
We shall not have to listen to that wrench Mid anymore!
Wrench?
Grandy you silly arse.[/B]
Aye, I don't know what that means, but I've seen it used a lot mate.[/B]
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Definitions of wrench on the Web:
twist or pull violently or suddenly, especially so as to remove (something) from that to which it is attached or from where it originates; "wrench a window off its hinges"; "wrench oneself free from somebody's grip"; "a deep sigh was wrenched from his chest"
a sharp strain on muscles or ligaments; "the wrench to his knee occurred as he fell"; "he was sidelined with a hamstring pull"
make a sudden twisting motion
wring: twist and compress, as if in pain or anguish; "Wring one's hand"
twist: a jerky pulling movement
a hand tool that is used to hold or twist a nut or bolt
twist: twist suddenly so as to sprain; "wrench one's ankle"; "The wrestler twisted his shoulder"; "the hikers sprained their ankles when they fell"; "I turned my ankle and couldn't walk for several days"
I do not believe you mean this.
I believe you mean "wench".
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Definitions of wench on the Web:
dame: informal terms for a (young) woman
frequent prostitutes
QED. You silly arse.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 14, 2007, 08:09:32 PM
Post by: Archem on September 14, 2007, 11:40:39 PM
Post by: Grandy on September 15, 2007, 01:10:06 AM
Still, it IS the most amusing topic I've seen in charas in a long time.
So, please, carry on.
Post by: Archem on September 15, 2007, 01:27:13 AM
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Post by: Grandy on September 15, 2007, 02:41:48 AM
Post by: Shady Ultima on September 15, 2007, 02:45:39 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Holy crap... I agree with Shady?! O_o
Heyy, what's that supposed to mean? :(
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Originally posted by Prpl_Mage
And could you mention one act of terrorism sicne 9/11? I sure can't think of one.
There was the train bombing in Britain a while back, but no HUGE ones... the terrorists are too tied up having the Americans in their countries...
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Originally posted by Grandy
Did you know?
- That there were 2 plane crashes in the last 4 months (or so) in Brasil, which could have been avoided if the people who were supposed to take care of the landing raod thing actually did their job?
- That over 3 people dies a day on our slums?
- That my cousin almost died because a doctor gave her a medicine before checking if she was alergic to it? She now looks like Notredame's Hunchback, seriously. It is said she won't live more than 6 years from now.
- A pacifist protest over here ended in a small one-night civil war beetwen police and whoever was at the streets.
- Don't get me started at how the politics work here, a politcian managed not to be arrested because he had the legal power to say "I will not be arrested" and HE WAS NOT ARRESTED BECAUSE OF THAT.
And then people come here and fill my beautiful thread about how I should mourn.[/B]
I think you misunderstood my post Grandy, I wasn't telling you that you should mourn the Americans. I was speaking to Akaroku who was being a dick. I don't mourn for the Americans, but I won't go around saying BOO HOO. People died, I don't give a damn who the people were, they were murdered, and I'll be respectful about that. It COULD have happened to someone I know, and I know that would have been traumatic, so I am respectful about it, and for the people who did lose someone.
Grandy, I won't mourn for the brazilian people who die anymore than I will for any other people I don't know, but I'm not going to tell you, or anyone else to "Get over it" like Akaroku did.
And geez... How did this thread get so goofy? I was laughing pretty hard about Grandy's mistake of wrench with wench, and Dragonium's correction.
Post by: Grandy on September 15, 2007, 02:59:20 AM
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Originally posted by Shady UltimaQuoteOriginally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Holy crap... I agree with Shady?! O_o
Heyy, what's that supposed to mean? :(QuoteOriginally posted by Prpl_Mage
And could you mention one act of terrorism sicne 9/11? I sure can't think of one.
There was the train bombing in Britain a while back, but no HUGE ones... the terrorists are too tied up having the Americans in their countries...QuoteOriginally posted by Grandy
Did you know?
- That there were 2 plane crashes in the last 4 months (or so) in Brasil, which could have been avoided if the people who were supposed to take care of the landing raod thing actually did their job?
- That over 3 people dies a day on our slums?
- That my cousin almost died because a doctor gave her a medicine before checking if she was alergic to it? She now looks like Notredame's Hunchback, seriously. It is said she won't live more than 6 years from now.
- A pacifist protest over here ended in a small one-night civil war beetwen police and whoever was at the streets.
- Don't get me started at how the politics work here, a politcian managed not to be arrested because he had the legal power to say "I will not be arrested" and HE WAS NOT ARRESTED BECAUSE OF THAT.
And then people come here and fill my beautiful thread about how I should mourn.[/B]
I think you misunderstood my post Grandy, I wasn't telling you that you should mourn the Americans. I was speaking to Akaroku who was being a dick. I don't mourn for the Americans, but I won't go around saying BOO HOO. People died, I don't give a damn who the people were, they were murdered, and I'll be respectful about that. It COULD have happened to someone I know, and I know that would have been traumatic, so I am respectful about it, and for the people who did lose someone.
Grandy, I won't mourn for the brazilian people who die anymore than I will for any other people I don't know, but I'm not going to tell you, or anyone else to "Get over it" like Akaroku did.
And geez... How did this thread get so goofy? I was laughing pretty hard about Grandy's mistake of wrench with wench, and Dragonium's correction.
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Oh, you better mourn for us brasillians, YOU BETTER DO! OR ELSE! *shakes fist*
Also, I just quoted you and wrote something in the general direction of what you were saying, not really aiming at anything.
Post by: clockworkroutine on September 15, 2007, 01:35:36 PM
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Originally posted by Phayre
From no 9/11 topics to.... saltines?
I suddenly remember why I love this place.
On a side note, I just remembered that Deval Patrick, one of the stupider politicians I've ever had the misfortune to meet called the events of 9/11 "mean, nasty, and bitter".
I love Deval Patrick - He's doing so much for the state. Could you imagine if he had that B otch I don't even remember her name - as governer - who to me seemed to only want to remain in office to have a job and the status of. Trust me we're so much better off.
Love Deval Patrick - Love.
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Has anyone seen "loose change"? What are your thoughts on it?
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 15, 2007, 05:30:35 PM
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Originally posted by coasterkrazy
Thanks everyone! Wow, my third birthday here... time moves so fast...
Oh, and Archem, I lol'd at that one. How true, but who cares! At least I'm up and smiling today.
0_o
I agree with Archem 1000% on the island thing. I want to be some sort of builder. Jim the builder. Best builder there ever was on charas island.
Also, Gabriel, sure, come over to England :p I recommend Kent.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 15, 2007, 05:34:00 PM
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Has anyone seen "loose change"? What are your thoughts on it?
I've seen it, and from what I've seen of it's creator, he's just a punk out to stir up trouble and make money. Did you ever read the Popular Science (I think) article that debunked the most common 9/11 conspiracies. It's really funny because they make more sense then the conspiracy reasons.
Post by: clockworkroutine on September 15, 2007, 05:50:05 PM
But this year - having government class - I thought about it - my conscience said that nobody from this country would plan 9/11 for the sake of greed - and achieving some other motive.
Its funny the other government class put that movie on the day of 9/11 - I was thrilled and I was so happy that I lived in MA.
My government class put on the film "9/11" the documentary that was supposed to be about the life of a rookie firefighter - but turned into a film about 9/11. It was good - it showed the event from inside the towers and it wasn't promotional. My government teacher - loathe him - one of those people that went crazy after 9/11 happened - a real "patriot". What kind of informed teacher leaves Fox News on the television set during the whole class? When I say crazy I mean irrational and unreasonable.
I'm sorry if I dissed on your news channel - watch "Out Fox." Bill O'Reilly what a cuddly oaf.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 15, 2007, 05:51:57 PM
Stop whining about 3,000 Americans that died 6 years ago and do something about real issues. Give equal weight to tragedies that happen in non-English speaking countries as you do to relatively small tragedies in English speaking countries.
People get so wrapped up in the past because it feels more immediate to them than the present that happens half a world away. Open your eyes.
As for loose change, it's bullshit. They knew about it, but they didn't directly it.
Post by: clockworkroutine on September 15, 2007, 06:20:22 PM
To me not many people here seem that crazy or "whiny" about 9/11. I don't know many people who are - its a tragedy that is reserved in respect to the victims of 9/11 - it doesn't loom in our hearts everyday except for that day.
Can you really blame others for not talking about Darfur? Our "News" - America's media news corporations don't give any time to Darfur - Journalists aren't allowed into that country to begin with - there isn't ever a rally cry shown on the big news stations such as Fox "News", CNN, and MSNBC - which there should be. Television news sources are mostly isolated in this country or in Iraq with bias.
If your looking for good news to listen to National Public Radio look up the station for your area - the news coverage is from 4 - 7 pm eastern. World news - told with soothing voices - without hardly any bias except one of a conscientious heart - the plus side is that you can listen to it without having to put your eyes on the television so you can be programming in Rm2k3 - occasionally you'll accidently put in the death tolls of Darfur for the amount of damage an enemy does to you - that enemy being the Janjaweed Militia you being the people of Darfur (bad joke - horribly bad joke - get angry)
Then there is Democracy Now which is on the net.
Al Jazier News I hear is a good news source.
BBC news comes on at like 6 on PBS.
Point being people aren't informed well enough - I only heard of the genocide of Darfur in world history class last year.
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 15, 2007, 07:40:19 PM
Anyway... Archem, can I be an advisor or chancellor of some sort? Please?? I have saltines.... Three packages of saltines...
Post by: Archem on September 15, 2007, 08:29:17 PM
Post by: Razor on September 15, 2007, 10:52:11 PM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 16, 2007, 01:04:42 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
Am I the only person here who has to wiki Darfur to know what we're all talking about?
Yes. Actually, no. I had to, since I don't keep up with current events much. All watching the news will do is make you paranoid.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 16, 2007, 02:07:34 AM
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Originally posted by clockworkroutine
A good signature - would be one of awareness of other conflicts on the world - possibly the death tolls such as in Darfur. Bring some awareness - without the force that seems so hot in your message.
To me not many people here seem that crazy or "whiny" about 9/11. I don't know many people who are - its a tragedy that is reserved in respect to the victims of 9/11 - it doesn't loom in our hearts everyday except for that day.
Can you really blame others for not talking about Darfur? Our "News" - America's media news corporations don't give any time to Darfur - Journalists aren't allowed into that country to begin with - there isn't ever a rally cry shown on the big news stations such as Fox "News", CNN, and MSNBC - which there should be. Television news sources are mostly isolated in this country or in Iraq with bias.
If your looking for good news to listen to National Public Radio look up the station for your area - the news coverage is from 4 - 7 pm eastern. World news - told with soothing voices - without hardly any bias except one of a conscientious heart - the plus side is that you can listen to it without having to put your eyes on the television so you can be programming in Rm2k3 - occasionally you'll accidently put in the death tolls of Darfur for the amount of damage an enemy does to you - that enemy being the Janjaweed Militia you being the people of Darfur (bad joke - horribly bad joke - get angry)
Then there is Democracy Now which is on the net.
Al Jazier News I hear is a good news source.
BBC news comes on at like 6 on PBS.
Point being people aren't informed well enough - I only heard of the genocide of Darfur in world history class last year.
You make a very good point.
<3 BBC
Post by: Archem on September 16, 2007, 03:02:41 AM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 16, 2007, 03:48:52 AM
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Originally posted by The_Real_Charaman
" [In Darfur, t]he most recent data analyses suggest that 400,000 people have died as a result of the ongoing genocide, with a total of 3.5 million conflict-affected persons."
Stop whining about 3,000 Americans that died 6 years ago and do something about real issues. Give equal weight to tragedies that happen in non-English speaking countries as you do to relatively small tragedies in English speaking countries.
People get so wrapped up in the past because it feels more immediate to them than the present that happens half a world away. Open your eyes.
As for loose change, it's bullshit. They knew about it, but they didn't directly it.
Who cares if the death tole in that area greatly outnumbers 9/11 casualties? We gave Islamic Radicals freedoms, only to have them use that freedom to murder innocent people. We're in a war with out any solid ground as to the reason behind it. Our PRESIDENT is respected by no one, and we do not have a clear choice to support for the next election. These are real issues!
Why should America give equal weight to something that didn't happen in our country? I feel sad for these people, but come on... We have our own problems.
Post by: Phayre on September 16, 2007, 05:45:44 AM
Post by: Grandy on September 16, 2007, 05:48:20 AM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Why should we give equal weight to something that didn't happen in our country? I feel sad for these people, but come on... We have our own problems.
That's our point in it's totality.
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Am I the only person here who has to wiki Darfur to know what we're all talking about?
No.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 16, 2007, 06:18:01 AM
Post by: Razor on September 16, 2007, 06:41:51 AM
I didn't attempt to learn his name for nothing.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 16, 2007, 07:06:17 AM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 16, 2007, 03:26:06 PM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Who cares if the death tole in that area greatly outnumbers 9/11 casualties? We gave Islamic Radicals freedoms, only to have them use that freedom to murder innocent people. We're in a war with out any solid ground as to the reason behind it. Our PRESIDENT is respected by no one, and we do not have a clear choice to support for the next election. These are real issues!
Why should America give equal weight to something that didn't happen in our country? I feel sad for these people, but come on... We have our own problems.[/B]
:bend:
Post by: Grandy on September 16, 2007, 05:05:45 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
I dunno, I haven't talked to him in awhile and neither has MSlash. I know he moved up to Canada with his mom, had a graphic-design job, then was talking about moving back here to California. After that hell if I know.
Actually, can you keep a secret?
...we send him to first colonize and search the island in order to make it habitable for us Charas members. Red Giant also went with him, as did a few other members.
We periodically log in one of their accounts and make a fake post so it seems they are fine and well, but that's only because the secret forces are onto us.
Alex also went there, that's why we don't hear from him much.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 16, 2007, 05:12:53 PM
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 16, 2007, 05:16:28 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
What ever happened to Shinotebasiiack anyway?
I didn't attempt to learn his name for nothing.
And yet you spelled it wrong...-.
Post by: Archem on September 16, 2007, 05:32:34 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Why do I not know! I must know as commanding general of the island under Kind and Gentle Dictator for Life Archem!
Fix'd. Also, you didn't get that thing I sent you? The day you received your position, I sent out a package with all that vital information! I'll have the postman's head for not properly delivering such a package on time!
*sends mercs out to retrieve the head of said postman*
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 16, 2007, 05:49:15 PM
Post by: Grandy on September 16, 2007, 06:10:01 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
*sends mercs out to retrieve the head of said postman*
(Just as planned.)
*smiles devilishly*
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ALTERNATIVALY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT4vAJnJls
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ALTERNATIVALY
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Not as planned.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 16, 2007, 06:58:48 PM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthisQuoteOriginally posted by The_Real_Charaman
" [In Darfur, t]he most recent data analyses suggest that 400,000 people have died as a result of the ongoing genocide, with a total of 3.5 million conflict-affected persons."
Stop whining about 3,000 Americans that died 6 years ago and do something about real issues. Give equal weight to tragedies that happen in non-English speaking countries as you do to relatively small tragedies in English speaking countries.
People get so wrapped up in the past because it feels more immediate to them than the present that happens half a world away. Open your eyes.
As for loose change, it's bullshit. They knew about it, but they didn't directly it.
Who cares if the death tole in that area greatly outnumbers 9/11 casualties? We gave Islamic Radicals freedoms, only to have them use that freedom to murder innocent people. We're in a war with out any solid ground as to the reason behind it. Our PRESIDENT is respected by no one, and we do not have a clear choice to support for the next election. These are real issues!
Why should America give equal weight to something that didn't happen in our country? I feel sad for these people, but come on... We have our own problems.[/B]
**** America and this apathetic ignorant point of view.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 16, 2007, 07:23:40 PM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 16, 2007, 08:00:03 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
**** the other half of America and the self-indulgent "Let's save everyone because it makes me feel better" point of view. Really, if it's such a problem in Darfur then why aren't you bitching about every other ****ing country not involved?
I agree with ZKX 1000%. Really, I think we should just mind our own business. So there are some screwed up countries out there. Look, I'm not trying to be a jackass here, but honestly, we can't afford to go out of our way to help every friggin country that's got a small problem. If we did, we'd be more vulnerable to attacks against us, due to lack of budgeting.
We don't need to make every nation's problem our own.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 16, 2007, 08:17:01 PM
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Originally posted by Roland_DeschainQuoteOriginally posted by ZeroKirbyX
**** the other half of America and the self-indulgent "Let's save everyone because it makes me feel better" point of view. Really, if it's such a problem in Darfur then why aren't you bitching about every other ****ing country not involved?
I agree with ZKX 1000%. Really, I think we should just mind our own business. So there are some screwed up countries out there. Look, I'm not trying to be a jackass here, but honestly, we can't afford to go out of our way to help every friggin country that's got a small problem. If we did, we'd be more vulnerable to attacks against us, due to lack of budgeting.
We don't need to make every nation's problem our own.[/B]
<_< Thats not what I meant. I still think that as one of the richest countries in the world, we need to try to assist other countries. But I don't think we should spend millions just to spend millions. Basically what I'm saying is this: If the war in Iraq is for oil, I support it more. than I do for terrorism. Yea, read it again. We'll get nowhere if we just spend money to help for the sake of helping, if by trying to make a profit we can help them out, go for it. We could always do the old school kill everyone just for the sake of domination.
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 16, 2007, 10:06:54 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
<_< Thats not what I meant. I still think that as one of the richest countries in the world, we need to try to assist other countries. But I don't think we should spend millions just to spend millions. Basically what I'm saying is this: If the war in Iraq is for oil, I support it more. than I do for terrorism. Yea, read it again. We'll get nowhere if we just spend money to help for the sake of helping, if by trying to make a profit we can help them out, go for it. We could always do the old school kill everyone just for the sake of domination.[/B]
It's kinda what you meant, only phrased a bit weird. What I was trying to say is: Help when necessary, don't help when not. Example: if a country is threatening to destroy the world, yeah, do something.
If, however, a country is poor by our standards, don't give them millions and send troops down to stop riots or whatever. Just send the money.
I was trying to say that spending money on other countries first is a pretty bad idea, since then we wouldn't be able to help ourselves.
I think.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 17, 2007, 01:17:26 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
**** the other half of America and the self-indulgent "Let's save everyone because it makes me feel better" point of view. Really, if it's such a problem in Darfur then why aren't you bitching about every other ****ing country not involved?
Whats wropng with blaming the country with the most resources?
Roland... more vulnerable to attacks? We only get attacks because we have that ***hole mentlity.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 17, 2007, 01:21:19 AM
By the way, we get attacks because, as you said, we have the most resources. Take down the large pillar and the smaller ones will fall.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 17, 2007, 10:06:56 PM
I blame every country, but only feel like I am in position to criticize the country of which I am a citizen. It is not my place to presume to tell another citizenry for what they should fight.
Post by: Grandy on September 17, 2007, 10:21:29 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
If America controlled the actions of every foreign country you could, but we don't.
Pff. ...hmm... huh.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Nice one. Seriously, though, what's your counter argument?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 17, 2007, 10:48:23 PM
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Originally posted by The_Real_Charaman
Certain people like to call us the "leaders of the free world," and if that is true, and we don't start it, who will?
I blame every country, but only feel like I am in position to criticize the country of which I am a citizen. It is not my place to presume to tell another citizenry for what they should fight.
Once again you seem unable to differentiate between America the people, America the country, and America the government. The same applies towards every country. You can't judge the whole of a people by its government. Just because you're patriotic, doesn't mean you support the people or the government. I have pride for the South, but that doesn't mean I don't dislike a good deal of the people and government.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 17, 2007, 11:08:20 PM
I see people as people, and countries as governments. Sorry for the unclarity.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 17, 2007, 11:28:24 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 17, 2007, 11:40:19 PM
More like **** gays.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 17, 2007, 11:41:30 PM
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**** the other half of America and the self-indulgent "Let's save everyone because it makes me feel better" point of view. Really, if it's such a problem in Darfur then why aren't you bitching about every other ****ing country not involved?
For the simple fact that USA only get involved when it interests them.
And ZKX...seriously man, bad mentality there (on the making profit for helping other countries...) Seriously, I didn't expect that from a inteligent guy like you.
-100 cool points.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 17, 2007, 11:47:55 PM
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Originally posted by AlmeidabooQuoteOriginally posted by ZeroKirbyX
**** the other half of America and the self-indulgent "Let's save everyone because it makes me feel better" point of view. Really, if it's such a problem in Darfur then why aren't you bitching about every other ****ing country not involved?
For the simple fact that USA only get involved when it interests them.[/B]
EVERY country does that, for hundred and thousands of years. I support that too, no matter what country did it, it is what leads to the rise and fall of civilization. To spend money and resources with no profit or desired outcome, it just doesn't make sense.
By profit, I don't mean using a country for profit, but I mean if you can aid a country, then get something in return like drilling rights, or territorial rights, so long as it doesn't go to private industry and remains gov't regulated, that makes more sense than "Here, have our money. Bye." Of course that won't happen :| Although, we did give billions to Japan after WWII, and they were our enemy, so you can't really say what we;re gonna do next.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 17, 2007, 11:48:42 PM
More like minus your penis.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 18, 2007, 03:16:16 PM
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Minus 100 cool points?
More like minus your penis.
1) Did you acc get hacked (by a one-prhase-only bot)?
2) Did someone eat that tiny lil' brain you had?
3) Did you get honk'ed (while pretending to be a girl) so much that you went braindead and can't say anything else?
4) If none of those, why'd become more retarded than before? Some people actually said you had grown up o.O
Post by: Archem on September 18, 2007, 05:12:22 PM
More like Meiscool's penis.
Post by: Cosmos on September 18, 2007, 07:34:36 PM
Also.. I was thinking about this the other day. It annoys me GREATLY to see all these game shows on tv with all this MONEY that they just throw out there. Same thing with the lottery.. Cause I'm thinking, there are so many ppl out there straving, homeless, uneducated, ect... and yet we're here bathing in money on tv.. or answering questions for a million dollars.. All that money could be put to better use else where... I dunno.. mabbe no one else sees the same point I'm trying to make.. <<
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 18, 2007, 08:18:06 PM
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Originally posted by AlmeidabooQuoteOriginally posted by Meiscool
Minus 100 cool points?
More like minus your penis.
1) Did you acc get hacked (by a one-prhase-only bot)?
2) Did someone eat that tiny lil' brain you had?
3) Did you get honk'ed (while pretending to be a girl) so much that you went braindead and can't say anything else?
4) If none of those, why'd become more retarded than before? Some people actually said you had grown up o.O[/B]
All of these, especially #2, are very clever.
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 18, 2007, 08:21:14 PM
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Erm.. I think it's stupid to just send countries money with no kind've enforcement being as the governments in pretty much all countries are filled with corruption and greed..
Also.. I was thinking about this the other day. It annoys me GREATLY to see all these game shows on tv with all this MONEY that they just throw out there. Same thing with the lottery.. Cause I'm thinking, there are so many ppl out there straving, homeless, uneducated, ect... and yet we're here bathing in money on tv.. or answering questions for a million dollars.. All that money could be put to better use else where... I dunno.. mabbe no one else sees the same point I'm trying to make.. <<
You know, that is pretty dumb. Why give away a million dollars to some guy rich enough to fly down, or live around, where the show is hosted, when it would be better off going to charity or even to a poor, starving family?
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 18, 2007, 09:49:58 PM
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Originally posted by Roland_DeschainQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Erm.. I think it's stupid to just send countries money with no kind've enforcement being as the governments in pretty much all countries are filled with corruption and greed..
Also.. I was thinking about this the other day. It annoys me GREATLY to see all these game shows on tv with all this MONEY that they just throw out there. Same thing with the lottery.. Cause I'm thinking, there are so many ppl out there straving, homeless, uneducated, ect... and yet we're here bathing in money on tv.. or answering questions for a million dollars.. All that money could be put to better use else where... I dunno.. mabbe no one else sees the same point I'm trying to make.. <<
You know, that is pretty dumb. Why give away a million dollars to some guy rich enough to fly down, or live around, where the show is hosted, when it would be better off going to charity or even to a poor, starving family?
[/B]
I agree completely. The misprioritization of the use of money greaaaatly agitates me.
Post by: Cosmos on September 18, 2007, 10:37:27 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 18, 2007, 11:40:14 PM
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 18, 2007, 11:46:53 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 18, 2007, 11:53:37 PM
Do you honestly think as many people would partake in these games if they knew their winnings would go to someone else?
TV provides entertainment, not salvation.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 19, 2007, 12:15:53 AM
Post by: Cosmos on September 19, 2007, 12:17:41 AM
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 19, 2007, 12:25:23 AM
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Originally posted by Midnight
Your mother is stupid. Now quite using your oral skills for anything other then me! :D
Did you just ask him to...use his oral skills...on you?
Post by: Phayre on September 19, 2007, 12:36:25 AM
I'm personally against a country messing with another's circumstances, at least going in and messing with them. It usually results in unstable governments and economies for the country being "helped", and frankly presents a view from the other country of "We're better than you. Now stop what you're doing and let us handle it", which just undermines everything.
And yes, I believe that's what Mid said. Let them do their happy little.... whatever.
Post by: Cosmos on September 19, 2007, 12:54:14 AM
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Originally posted by AlmeidabooQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Your mother is stupid. Now quite using your oral skills for anything other then me! :D
Did you just ask him to...use his oral skills...on you?[/B]
We do it all the time. *and it's great!*
But the thing is.. sometimes even if another country doesn't get involved... there will still be greedy, corrupt, w/e.. governments. It's not something that can be helped... Like Cuba or the old S.U. or North Korea.. Sometimes it looks like another country is the bigger issue, but it's usually an internal conflict. Usually..
I dunno.. I mean ppl are naturally nosey.. we have the tendency to meddle in others affairs. It's a habbit, mabbe a bad one.. mabbe a good one. But ya really can't just say it's america who does it. I mean, if you hear strange noises coming from your neighbor's house.. eventually you'll get curious and might start spying from behind your curtains.
Post by: Archem on September 19, 2007, 02:12:27 AM
My skillz are much better, though. Think about it. Then stop thinking about it and think about something else. Then think about it again, but think about it a bit differently. One of those things you thought about is the one I'm referring to. Possibly.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 19, 2007, 02:26:58 PM
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waitwaitwait... "Oral skills"?! I don't gots those!
My skillz are much better, though. Think about it. Then stop thinking about it and think about something else. Then think about it again, but think about it a bit differently. One of those things you thought about is the one I'm referring to. Possibly.
Your point has been....denied. You're not corporeal, material, you're a ghost, she wouldn't feel a thing, except cold.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 19, 2007, 05:53:25 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightQuoteOriginally posted by AlmeidabooQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Your mother is stupid. Now quite using your oral skills for anything other then me! :D
Did you just ask him to...use his oral skills...on you?[/B]
We do it all the time. *and it's great!*
[/B]
Thankyou, as I'm sure that this was directed at me.
Just for this, you're getting some tonight AND I'm cooking.
Post by: The_Real_Charaman on September 19, 2007, 06:00:55 PM
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Without resorting to socialism, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have everyone economically equal, and even then it still won't happen.
And that is why I'm a statist socialist.
Post by: Roland_Deschain on September 19, 2007, 06:56:29 PM
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What a stupid thing to complain about... game shows wasting money.
Do you honestly think as many people would partake in these games if they knew their winnings would go to someone else?
TV provides entertainment, not salvation.
I'm complaining about them EXISTING. No one would participate in them if they didn't exist.
Also, as for the "oral skillz" discussion: 0_o
Post by: Bluhman on September 19, 2007, 06:58:04 PM
Post by: Cosmos on September 19, 2007, 07:27:45 PM
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Originally posted by MeiscoolQuoteOriginally posted by MidnightQuoteOriginally posted by AlmeidabooQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Your mother is stupid. Now quite using your oral skills for anything other then me! :D
Did you just ask him to...use his oral skills...on you?[/B]
We do it all the time. *and it's great!*
[/B]
Thankyou, as I'm sure that this was directed at me.
Just for this, you're getting some tonight AND I'm cooking.[/B]
Ooo I love it when you talk like that.. gets me excited! :D
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 19, 2007, 08:11:28 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightQuoteOriginally posted by MeiscoolQuoteOriginally posted by MidnightQuoteOriginally posted by AlmeidabooQuoteOriginally posted by Midnight
Your mother is stupid. Now quite using your oral skills for anything other then me! :D
Did you just ask him to...use his oral skills...on you?[/B]
We do it all the time. *and it's great!*
[/B]
Thankyou, as I'm sure that this was directed at me.
Just for this, you're getting some tonight AND I'm cooking.[/B]
Ooo I love it when you talk like that.. gets me excited! :D [/B]
Talking is just one of my many oral skills.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 19, 2007, 09:02:02 PM
Nice manual skills btw (typing)
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 20, 2007, 01:11:47 AM
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Originally posted by The_Real_CharamanQuoteOriginally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Without resorting to socialism, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have everyone economically equal, and even then it still won't happen.
And that is why I'm a statist socialist.[/B]
As am I, but at this point in time, I understand that to rehaul an entire government, evn intoi a successful one, would be near impossible.