Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 12:44:12 PM
Post by: Red Fox on July 07, 2005, 12:57:05 PM
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 01:34:39 PM
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 01:55:17 PM
why do they do this?
all of them should ****ing die.
Post by: Sephiroth rocks on July 07, 2005, 02:03:32 PM
Post by: barnsalot on July 07, 2005, 02:03:43 PM
Post by: BlackIceAdept on July 07, 2005, 02:05:03 PM
blaming them won't do any good... nethier will killing them... what can we do when this happens...
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 02:06:19 PM
Post by: White Dwarf on July 07, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
jeeze
ok, in RE today we ahd the radio on about it, ok, at elast 20 people have died, its a confirmed terroist attack, erm...it was 2 tube stations and 4 busses, erm, central london, blare was in scotland for the G8 meeting, he should be in london now taking reports and will be abck at the meeting tonight, the G8 meeting is still taking place without him, erm...i dunno much really, erm, no one is allowly to go to london, its hard to get out of london, erm, im shaking like hell, just found out everyone i know is alive, IM WAS SO FRICKING SCARED THEY MIGHT BE DEAD!!!
GOD i MUST carm down, *sigh* omfg omfg omfg
Post by: Ian'sRPGstuff on July 07, 2005, 02:44:01 PM
Post by: NeroSam on July 07, 2005, 02:47:17 PM
i realy hate terrorism...gonna shoot some...<< opens counterstrike >> :frag: :guns:
Post by: Dragonium on July 07, 2005, 02:56:43 PM
We shoudl stop all public transportation for a few days. That'd at least stop the attacks.
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 03:03:46 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm
or check your firebox WB headlines
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 03:14:27 PM
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OMFG SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW ARE IN LONDON!
jeeze
ok, in RE today we ahd the radio on about it, ok, at elast 20 people have died, its a confirmed terroist attack, erm...it was 2 tube stations and 4 busses, erm, central london, blare was in scotland for the G8 meeting, he should be in london now taking reports and will be abck at the meeting tonight, the G8 meeting is still taking place without him, erm...i dunno much really, erm, no one is allowly to go to london, its hard to get out of london, erm, im shaking like hell, just found out everyone i know is alive, IM WAS SO FRICKING SCARED THEY MIGHT BE DEAD!!!
GOD i MUST carm down, *sigh* omfg omfg omfg
Have you called them yet?
Post by: White Dwarf on July 07, 2005, 03:22:07 PM
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quote: Originally posted by White Dwarf
OMFG SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW ARE IN LONDON!
jeeze
ok, in RE today we ahd the radio on about it, ok, at elast 20 people have died, its a confirmed terroist attack, erm...it was 2 tube stations and 4 busses, erm, central london, blare was in scotland for the G8 meeting, he should be in london now taking reports and will be abck at the meeting tonight, the G8 meeting is still taking place without him, erm...i dunno much really, erm, no one is allowly to go to london, its hard to get out of london, erm, im shaking like hell, just found out everyone i know is alive, IM WAS SO FRICKING SCARED THEY MIGHT BE DEAD!!!
GOD i MUST carm down, *sigh* omfg omfg omfg
Have you called them yet?
...no,
look, all the phones are down cus to many people are phoning, i was tryinging all lunch but i couldent get it to work, i cant do anything, ok, so the most important person is on msn now so im carming down a bit, BUT IM SHAKING LIKE MAD!
Post by: shinotebasiiackh on July 07, 2005, 03:41:14 PM
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 03:53:53 PM
And, well, this is war, y'now? When Blair decided to help Bush, you should expect this sooner or later.
It won't be the last time we hear about this "Al Qaeda" (I don't think they're THE Al Qaeda, its like the Neo-Nazi, they're not even close of being a Nazi, but they pretend they are), you can bet.
Plus, seriously, after this attack, more people in England will want revenge, to continue the war. Just a warning: Don't do it, you'll be as low as they are, plus if the war continues, more attacks will happen, if you don't want more attacks in England or USA, pray the war stop soon.
And you can see it? No-one even found any clues that it was Al Qaeda's job. But everyone agrees that it was, why? Paranoy, for me thats the word.
I hope you ll don't think I'm in Al Qaeda's side for saying that they MAYBE are innocent, to tell the truth, Bush 'n Blair maybe (maybe) are right about fighting against Al Qaeda, but Iraq and Afganistan aren't Al Qaeda, I think this war is only a way to manipule everyone. If it wasn't why do prevent Saddan Hussein from suicide? (He can't, if he tries, the guards will stop him, and etc. etc. The point is: He can't). I mean, its a right of him to take his own life, right?
But he can't suicide, and I know why: He is Bush's Ace In The Hole, if he still alive, Bush can manipulate everyone more easily, if he dies, Bush's excuses to stop the war will be over.
Just hink about what I said...
Post by: Tomi on July 07, 2005, 04:07:48 PM
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 07, 2005, 04:13:49 PM
What, really, is the point of bombing civilians? It sickens me. There are some friends that I think were in London and I still haven't heard from yet...
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 04:16:27 PM
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on July 07, 2005, 04:58:44 PM
My condolences to anyone effected.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 05:07:55 PM
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Grandy you are making yourself contradictory. Please re-read what you posted.
Ok, good I thought i missed soemthing.
and to Grandy, they attacked us first, so don't blame us for not laying down to it. Don't expect England to, either.
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on July 07, 2005, 05:17:11 PM
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 05:17:35 PM
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I don't know much about the attack but I hope the people behind this get caught...
me too. Its really upsetting
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 05:19:09 PM
If Bush and Blair want war then strap them with an AK-47 and send them to Afghanistan.
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 05:50:17 PM
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Originally posted by Grandy
Hopefully, they're okay, London is a huge city.
And, well, this is war, y'now? When Blair decided to help Bush, you should expect this sooner or later.
It won't be the last time we hear about this "Al Qaeda" (I don't think they're THE Al Qaeda, its like the Neo-Nazi, they're not even close of being a Nazi, but they pretend they are), you can bet.
Plus, seriously, after this attack, more people in England will want revenge, to continue the war. Just a warning: Don't do it, you'll be as low as they are, plus if the war continues, more attacks will happen, if you don't want more attacks in England or USA, pray the war stop soon.
And you can see it? No-one even found any clues that it was Al Qaeda's job. But everyone agrees that it was, why? Paranoy, for me thats the word.
I hope you ll don't think I'm in Al Qaeda's side for saying that they MAYBE are innocent, to tell the truth, Bush 'n Blair maybe (maybe) are right about fighting against Al Qaeda, but Iraq and Afganistan aren't Al Qaeda, I think this war is only a way to manipule everyone. If it wasn't why do prevent Saddan Hussein from suicide? (He can't, if he tries, the guards will stop him, and etc. etc. The point is: He can't). I mean, its a right of him to take his own life, right?
But he can't suicide, and I know why: He is Bush's Ace In The Hole, if he still alive, Bush can manipulate everyone more easily, if he dies, Bush's excuses to stop the war will be over.
Just hink about what I said...
THAT is a hunk of bulls-****! The fact that Blair sided with Bush has Nothing to do with this situation. The terrorists aren't attacking for war, they're attacking because of their damn religion. F*cking bastards think that they're doing a righteous thing, and think that they'll gain a white robe to Heaven for killing people. This "jeehad (sp?) **** is a hunk of bull-**** as well. There's no such thing as religious war. Killing innocent people for YOUR own cause is not war, it's terrorism. And Grandy, if innocent people are dying in Iraq, it's their fault, because that means that they either:
A. Attack an American GI
B. Run out in the middle of the war
The one big problem though, is those bastards don't follow the rules of engagment. Instead of being in uniform, like they should be, they're in civilian clothes, and since an American GI sees a civilian with a machine gun in his hand, he's gonna shoot. Whatever...we all have our own opinions. I just hate it when people say bull-**** like "it's Bush's fault for terrorism", because it's not. All I can say is F*ck you terrorists, burn in hell!!!! :frag:
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 06:02:59 PM
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 06:14:36 PM
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Now Ace, don't flame up my topic. We can discuss this in a civil way.
Please tell me how that was a flame. All I did was voice my opinion on the subject. I wasn't flaming Grandy, I just said that what he said was bull crap. (Yeah, I did swear a lot. I was pissed though, and very offended)
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 06:17:52 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Drace
Now Ace, don't flame up my topic. We can discuss this in a civil way.
Please tell me how that was a flame. All I did was voice my opinion on the subject. I wasn't flaming Grandy, I just said that what he said was bull crap. (Yeah, I did swear a lot. I was pissed though, and very offended)
True Dat
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 06:29:14 PM
What kind of Religion counts that as "Righteous".
I'm lucky, my relvatives in London are okay, but I feel sorry for the victims and thier families....
Al Qaeda or whoever did this should burn in hell for this!
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 06:36:57 PM
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33 deaths at least.
What kind of Religion counts that as "Righteous".
I'm lucky, my relvatives in London are okay, but I feel sorry for the victims and thier families....
Al Qaeda or whoever did this should burn in hell for this!
Damn it doesn't have to make sence a reason is a reason for them to do anything. I bet they careless about Bush and all that crap. Any reason will do with them. There's a terrorist in hiding at the corner store by me (Not being racist he really is one) and from the crap he spits out of his mouth I know they do **** for no reason at all they just like to look for one. Like have you ever just punched somoene and gave a reason why knowing you did it just to prove a point or no reason at all? Yeah I think they do the same.
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 06:44:11 PM
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 07:17:23 PM
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Like have you ever just punched somoene and gave a reason why knowing you did it just to prove a point or no reason at all? Yeah I think they do the same.
ummmmm....no.
Terrorists and people with no means to thier actions are retards.
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 07:20:25 PM
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Like have you ever just punched somoene and gave a reason why knowing you did it just to prove a point or no reason at all? Yeah I think they do the same.
ummmmm....no.
Terrorists and people with no means to thier actions are retards.
thats a nice childish way of saying it...
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 07:23:50 PM
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 07:29:35 PM
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its childish to go and attack someone/somewhere with no reason...
Yeah, still doesn't make them "retarded" as you would say.
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 07:34:17 PM
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 07:46:35 PM
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 07:47:09 PM
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and to Grandy, they attacked us first, so don't blame us for not laying down to it. Don't expect England to, either.
Who? The Iraqians? The Afgenastians(How the hell are those called?)? The kids that were in there? The old couple that was there in vacations, celebreting they'r marry birthday? Nah, it was the Al Qaeda, it was Osama. I think they should punished (Osama and Al Qaeda), but leave Saddan Hussein and the others out of it, Hell, what they did for you all? THEY attacked your country? When?
Oh, well, I guess, since ONE person killed my cousin, I have not only to kill him, but his whole family and friends, oh wait, I can't find him, so I'll kill his family and friends 'till he shows up.
I really don't know where I was condraditore, please, show me.
Post by: smokey_locs2002 on July 07, 2005, 07:48:41 PM
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 07:52:16 PM
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I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker Bush will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost as an excuse.
Why the f*ck is Bush the mutherfucker?!!! It's the terrorists you idiot, not him, the terrorists!!!
Post by: Tomi on July 07, 2005, 07:53:13 PM
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Originally posted by Kinslayer
I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker ;) Bush ;) will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost ;) as an excuse ;) .
*hint hint*
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 07:55:19 PM
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Originally posted by Tomi
quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker ;) Bush ;) will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost ;) as an excuse ;) .
*hint hint*
Waddaya mean by that?!
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 07:55:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ace of Spades
quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker Bush will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost as an excuse.
Why the f*ck is Bush the mutherfucker?!!! It's the terrorists you idiot, not him, the terrorists!!!
exactly, it sint liek bush is telling the terrorists to bomb areas, isnt it.... *Conspiracy time*
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 07:58:22 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Tomi
quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker ;) Bush ;) will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost ;) as an excuse ;) .
*hint hint*
Waddaya mean by that?!
He means that you guys use Bush as an excuse. And one thing I don't like is how everyone gets all mad when someone else gets attacked, but when we got attacked, I can bet that you or Grandy didn't give a ****.
Post by: Tomi on July 07, 2005, 07:59:47 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Tomi
quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker ;) Bush ;) will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost ;) as an excuse ;) .
*hint hint*
Waddaya mean by that?!
*sigh* Maybe ;) Bush ;) is being used ;) as an excuse? ;)
EDIT: Whoops, Ace beat me to it. What he said. :D
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 08:03:47 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
quote: Originally posted by Tomi
quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
I was about to go to college when I heard that on the news (about 7:00 am). It is a shame how the world is barnished in blood. And it will be worse, since that mutherfucker ;) Bush ;) will continue its oppressive and imperialist expansion using those lives lost ;) as an excuse ;) .
*hint hint*
Waddaya mean by that?!
He means that you guys use Bush as an excuse. And one thing I don't like is how everyone gets all mad when someone else gets attacked, but when we got attacked, I can bet that you or Grandy didn't give a ****.
...?
What? I didn't give a ****?
'Couse I did.
Only because I think that in Iraq its happening the same thing.... right now, and, as both Iraq, England, and USA are far from here, the effect is the same on me. Or do you think I should be more sad for England than for Iraq? There's like 300 deaths in Iraq for eache people who got injuried in England. Each Day.
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And Grandy, if innocent people are dying in Iraq, it's their fault, because that means that they either:
A. Attack an American GI
B. Run out in the middle of the war
Pff.
Do you REALLY think theres no innocent victims in there? With all the bombing? All night? Run out in the middle of a war?! The war is runnig of in the middle of people!
Rules of engaged combat? What rules? Hell, you pointed yourself: No even uniforms they have! They want to protect they home, thats all! How would you feel, if an Army of full equiped mens showed up and started to shoot? Ha, you DO think this war started for Iraq's fault? Think again, saying all Iraqians are 'Al Qaedians' is the same to say I'm like Blanka 'cause I'm brazilian.
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 08:06:13 PM
Bush is not an excuse, and certainly, nor this attack, nor the bombs in Iraq, nor 9/11, nor any terrorist act, nor war, nor duel has an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ENGRAVE THIS IN YOUR ****ing HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 08:09:00 PM
Bush and the terrorists are in the same layer.
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 08:11:41 PM
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 08:11:49 PM
Kinslayer: Calm down man. Politics is a big issue and everyone gets really angry about it when they are offended, as I did.
Edit: Wait... Bush and terrorists are in the same layer?! No they're not. Terrorists attack innocent people. Bush is fighting those terrorists and IRAQI SOLDIERS, not innocent civilians.
Post by: theillusivefish on July 07, 2005, 08:19:33 PM
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 08:21:15 PM
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We're fighting ground combat, dude. The Iraqis are the ones who are doing the bombing. With all their stupid stunts, such as hotel bombing, car bombing, etc.
Well, if you want to believe not a single missile was lauch by the americans (by americans I don't mean you, I mean.... Bush, and the army itself) , I won't ruin your fantasy.
And lost bullets can kill as well.
You heard about that italian jornalist? The terrorists kidnapped she, after one month, they let her go, she was ina black car, going to an airport, when she got close to a American base, the shooting started, they almost killed her (or they did, I don't know).
And it wasn't even Iraqian, nor it was attacking, why'd they shoot in a non-Iraqian car?
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:21:52 PM
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and to Grandy, they attacked us first, so don't blame us for not laying down to it. Don't expect England to, either.
Who? The Iraqians? The Afgenastians(How the hell are those called?)? The kids that were in there? The old couple that was there in vacations, celebreting they'r marry birthday? Nah, it was the Al Qaeda, it was Osama. I think they should punished (Osama and Al Qaeda), but leave Saddan Hussein and the others out of it, Hell, what they did for you all? THEY attacked your country? When?
Oh, well, I guess, since ONE person killed my cousin, I have not only to kill him, but his whole family and friends, oh wait, I can't find him, so I'll kill his family and friends 'till he shows up.
I really don't know where I was condraditore, please, show me.
first of all, we are not talking about Iraq. And as for Afghanistan, yeah. The Taliban and Al Qaeda were connected.
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 08:26:05 PM
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quote: Originally posted by charaman
and to Grandy, they attacked us first, so don't blame us for not laying down to it. Don't expect England to, either.
Who? The Iraqians? The Afgenastians(How the hell are those called?)? The kids that were in there? The old couple that was there in vacations, celebreting they'r marry birthday? Nah, it was the Al Qaeda, it was Osama. I think they should punished (Osama and Al Qaeda), but leave Saddan Hussein and the others out of it, Hell, what they did for you all? THEY attacked your country? When?
Oh, well, I guess, since ONE person killed my cousin, I have not only to kill him, but his whole family and friends, oh wait, I can't find him, so I'll kill his family and friends 'till he shows up.
I really don't know where I was condraditore, please, show me.
first of all, we are not talking about Iraq. And as for Afghanistan, yeah. The Taliban and Al Qaeda were connected.
Well, that wasn't contraditory, was an error. Anything more?
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 08:26:38 PM
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Kinslayer: Calm down man. Politics is a big issue and everyone gets really angry about it when they are offended, as I did.
Dude, I'm not mad. I wrote the text that way so that I could make myself clear. And, dude, let me remind you. You still have aircrafts at Iraq (I watch the news, you know, and by the way, I have knowledge of war tactics, and the U.S. IS using aerial attacks as a tactic. Yet, what you say about the Iraqi resistance is true).
Sorry if I made the text a little... well... rude, but I wanted to put things loud, and clear. I don't get mad when I talk about politics (I study journalism, and dude we talk A LOT of politics at college)
and I'm not gonna get mad right now. I have many friends who dissagree with me, even my mom disagrees in my way on seeing politics, but still I don't fight, because it is pointless. I am not saying that the iraqi resistance (because there is a lot of innocents who die in Iraq) is better than the U.S. marines in any human way, or that Saddam was better than Bush, all I am saying is that Bush's imperialist expansion, Saddam's oppression, and the terrorist's attack end up with the same thing: THE DEATH OF INNOCENTS, LET THEM BE AMERICANS, IRAQIS, BRITTISH OR WHATSOEVER.
Remember Ace: in war, there is no better and worse, there is no winner, only loosers, because of that any life lost, is a great loss.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:28:39 PM
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 08:30:02 PM
Prehistoric times: Monstrous beasts known as dinosaurs roam the earth, and I'm pretty sure they fought.
Ice Age: The time of cave men. They probably all fought eachother and killed eachother for food.
Ancient times (Egypt, Rome, Greece, etc): They all had war, and fought eachother.
Middle Ages: Does it really need an explanation? Knights, barbarians, war, fighting, killing, a time of darkness and blood.
Age of Exploration: People fought for land, killed eachother, wars, all that stuff.
Age of Revolution: The title gives it away. War, killing, fighting.
1900 - Present: WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam, Terrorism: War, fighting, killing, etc.
Notice. There was never a time in the age of man where fighting, war, killing, etc didn't happen. So please, don't say "we live in a time of killing and warfare" when you can't point out a time that there wasn't. If you guys really want someone to blame, that isn't Bush, Blair, Hussein, OR the terrorists, then blame Adam and Eve (Eve particularly).
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 08:32:48 PM
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My point is, you are using Iraq to bring your point across, but it has nothing to do with the current issue.
WAR is the current issue
I think we all agree in one thing:
It doesn't matter who started the war, may they be Iraqians, Afganistans, Americas, British, it doesn't matter, someone should stop it.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:33:57 PM
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I think we all agree in one thing:
It doesn't matter who started the war, may they be Iraqians, Afganistans, Americas, British, it doesn't matter, someone should stop it.
theres another thing. I think we can all agree it wasnt the british, but that doeesnt phase the terrorists. Perfect example.
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 08:34:50 PM
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Why does everyone keep on saying "We live in a time of killing and war and fighting and chaos and this and that" Do you really think there was ever a time that none of this happened?! Besides the garden of Eden, the answer is NO!. Lets see.
Prehistoric times: Monstrous beasts known as dinosaurs roam the earth, and I'm pretty sure they fought.
Ice Age: The time of cave men. They probably all fought eachother and killed eachother for food.
Ancient times (Egypt, Rome, Greece, etc): They all had war, and fought eachother.
Middle Ages: Does it really need an explanation? Knights, barbarians, war, fighting, killing, a time of darkness and blood.
Age of Exploration: People fought for land, killed eachother, wars, all that stuff.
Age of Revolution: The title gives it away. War, killing, fighting.
1900 - Present: WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam, Terrorism: War, fighting, killing, etc.
Notice. There was never a time in the age of man where fighting, war, killing, etc didn't happen. So please, don't say "we live in a time of killing and warfare" when you can't point out a time that there wasn't. If you guys really want someone to blame, that isn't Bush, Blair, Hussein, OR the terrorists, then blame Adam and Eve (Eve particularly).
Dude, you are missing the point of what I said... please, read well what I posted, and if I do not make myself clear, tell me where the confusion is. I'm not talking about "times of war", it is correct, there has ALWAYS been fights across the world, but you missed the point. All I said is that "I wasn't mad because you have an opinion different from mine", that "this attack is pointless" and that "no war, nor attack has excuses, and no one wins"... Clear?
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 08:40:26 PM
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 08:40:37 PM
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Edit: Wait... Bush and terrorists are in the same layer?! No they're not. Terrorists attack innocent people. Bush is fighting those terrorists and IRAQI SOLDIERS, not innocent civilians.
What Bush is doing is the same as terrorist, but because the terrorist stiked first Bush has an excuse to bomb the place away no matter who's there and no matter who did it. For some part I agree with Grandy. Bush is what I call a "legal terrorist" because he's the president. Yes, Clinton was better. Much better. Even though his lil afair I would choose him above Bush everyday.
But the last few weeks I've had some of these issues at history. And in the end, it all goes back to Israël. Because they wanted their land back after a millenium or maybe two the took it from the Palestinians with help of England. The Palestinians and the other Middle-East countries didn't took that and formed the Arabian Liga. This Liga was against the Israëlians. Eventually this ended in battlefields, terrorist attack etc. etc. which formed terrorist groups like Al Quieda, Black Novembre and many others who blamed the Western World for taking away the Palstinian country.
If you look at all that it's because of the jews, the zionists. But if you go back in history Hitler made the jews leave Europe and to Israël, so eventually we're all to blame for this fucked up world, for scrweing up this place. If you look back in history you see we never lived peacefully. There was allways war this war that, endlessly. We screwed up this world and we need to fix it before it ends in a nuclear holocaust which allmost happend in the Cold War. If I look back in history I praise ourselves lucky to still be alive, to still have this world. But if we keep attacking them because they attacked us because we attacked them because they attacked us etc. etc. etc. we'll never have peace.
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i agree, clinton was better, yet what do you expect Bush to do? let the terrorists kill our civilians? there is really no other option. People will disagree either way.
quote: I think we all agree in one thing:
It doesn't matter who started the war, may they be Iraqians, Afganistans, Americas, British, it doesn't matter, someone should stop it.
theres another thing. I think we can all agree it wasnt the british, but that doeesnt phase the terrorists. Perfect example.
And we can agree it wasn't the dutch..... Well it's true.
PS: I'm not saying Al Queida is good though.
PPS: Ace, you forgot the Gulf War, Korea and many others.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:42:32 PM
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WAR is the current issue
I thought terrorism was.
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 08:45:08 PM
And Drace, you are right about the Jews taking Israel thing. I learned that in history as well.
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 08:45:48 PM
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Er..I wasn't really directing that statement towards you. .
Woops! my mistake! I read well and I realized that that wasn't for me: sorry :p .
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:46:41 PM
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But if you go back in history Hitler made the jews leave Europe and to Israël, so eventually we're all to blame for this ****** up world, for scrweing up this place. .
Actually he killed them, the UN gave the jews palestinian land and kmade them Israel, so I guess the UNs to blame.
not to quibble or anything
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 08:46:49 PM
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Yeah, it did charaman. Partially my fault, sorry. o_o;;
And Drace, you are right about the Jews taking Israel thing. I learned that in history as well.
Yeah, but if you look back further, the Palestinians took the land of the jews. But they were probably chased away from somewhere else.
Really, human kind is the worst thing that happend on this planet.
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Originally posted by charamanActually he killed them, the UN gave the jews palestinian land and kmade them Israel, so I guess the UNs to blame.
Well, Hitler originally tried to dump them in another country away from Europe. But because the Concentration camps became full they(watch Conspiracy) decided to kill them.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:48:21 PM
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Really, human kind is the worst thing that happend on this planet.
fully agreed.
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 08:49:30 PM
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[BReally, human kind is the worst thing that happend on this planet.[/B]
Dude, totally right in that one... We are the only idiotic beings that kill each other for stupid reasons, and destroy the place that feeds us.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:50:42 PM
EDIT: OUR OF ORDER AGAIN! whats going on?
Post by: Kinslayer on July 07, 2005, 08:52:45 PM
All that is left to say is that I'm deeply sorry for those poor souls lost today, and I hope that we have to regret no more injustices as this one that happened today.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 08:53:30 PM
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Heh heh... we're really getting out of the subject...
All that is left to say is that I'm deeply sorry for those poor souls lost today, and I hope that we have to regret no more injustices as this one that happened today.
again, i second that. Its sad to see the footage of people injured in teh attack.
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 09:00:57 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer
Heh heh... we're really getting out of the subject...
All that is left to say is that I'm deeply sorry for those poor souls lost today, and I hope that we have to regret no more injustices as this one that happened today.
again, i second that. Its sad to see the footage of people injured in teh attack.
I triple it.
Let's just hope something won't happen again.
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 09:03:36 PM
Okay, first:
-We agree war is ugly
-We agree both sides are wrong
-We agree that there are lots of deaths in both sides, and this is not good for both in any possible ways
-We do agree not all victims that are killed in this war decerved to die
Second:
-We agree war come from years behind, and the human race will fight until there nothing more to fight for. (Then we will fight to stop´the boredon)
Thirt:
-We agree that no one here know the truth of what is really happening.
-We agree media shows it own concept of 'truth', manipulating the way peoples think
-We agree that no one should talk about what we don't know
Now, eveyone shakes hands, and lets not fight because of a already existent war.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 09:04:46 PM
a natural peacemaker.
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 09:06:58 PM
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 09:09:01 PM
*shakes hands with everyone*
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 09:10:05 PM
the plants could have wars for the quickly dwindling CO2
EDIT: w00t! ive been here since 2003, and i finally acheived the coveted SENIOR MEMBER RANK!!!!
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 09:10:06 PM
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 09:12:35 PM
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 09:13:58 PM
....
*cough*
*shakes hand*
Post by: Razor on July 07, 2005, 09:16:44 PM
And I get that sinking feeling Australia'll be next. Damn John Howard, I say! And the terrorists also.
Post by: charaman on July 07, 2005, 09:19:44 PM
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I think I arrived at this thread too late.
And I get that sinking feeling Australia'll be next. Damn John Howard, I say! And the terrorists also.
a tad late.
damn the terrorists indeed.
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 09:19:50 PM
Post by: Ace of Spades on July 07, 2005, 09:24:40 PM
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 09:26:27 PM
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 07, 2005, 09:28:11 PM
cheese is F-A-T-T-E-N-I-N-G! evil cheese...must destroy....
Post by: coasterkrazy on July 07, 2005, 09:29:07 PM
EDIT: Oh, I just read a page back. Yeah, I'm really late but I uh... hex that.
*shakes hand and everything*
Post by: Razor on July 07, 2005, 09:44:47 PM
Post by: Grandy on July 07, 2005, 09:46:41 PM
Its the life, my friend
Post by: Drace on July 07, 2005, 10:45:35 PM
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on July 08, 2005, 12:08:07 AM
Post by: Sephiroth rocks on July 08, 2005, 12:26:09 PM
I probably won't be taking the subway in Copenhagen for a while now *shakes*
Post by: Drace on July 08, 2005, 12:47:52 PM
Post by: Kinslayer on July 08, 2005, 01:40:55 PM
Well, I believe that we all agree that this attacks are pointless and we all hope that this does not happen again.
*shakes hands with everyone and claps them for posting their opinions and defending them*
Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 08, 2005, 02:00:05 PM
As for the other topic thing... The world won't be perfect when there's only plants. If you look back further, the atmosphere was made up mainly of Carbon Dioxide, and small organisms began to form. Then plants came, thriving on the carbon Dioxide, polluted the planet with oxygen, and everything but the plants died.
So yeah, war is always.
Post by: Tomi on July 08, 2005, 02:11:30 PM
Post by: White Dwarf on July 08, 2005, 02:44:43 PM
Post by: Drace on July 08, 2005, 03:37:11 PM
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 08, 2005, 03:47:42 PM
What if a relative/firend of a victim wishes to speak with others who actually care about the matter.
Post by: White Dwarf on July 08, 2005, 04:11:16 PM
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Well, Those form Europe may still wish to speak about it.
What if a relative/firend of a victim wishes to speak with others who actually care about the matter.
i dout that someone here has a friend/relative who was killed in the bomb, but if so, they should post it, if not, leave the topic
Post by: Drace on July 08, 2005, 08:29:48 PM
Post by: maxine on July 09, 2005, 12:54:29 PM
Post by: Leon_1990 on July 09, 2005, 01:26:10 PM
and unfortunately, mans development has lead to more dangerous wars. So i guess we cant escape any of this... right.
Post by: Red Giant on July 09, 2005, 05:44:05 PM
Post by: drenrin2120 on July 09, 2005, 05:54:13 PM
I don't mean to bring it back up, but when 9/11 happened, I was in Kansas, the midwest of America, and it still affected me. I even heard of ppl oceans away crying about it.
As for me, I can't say I'm surprised, but I'm saddened. The whole idea of terrorists and suicide bombers is just plain sickening...
Post by: Drace on July 09, 2005, 06:35:42 PM
Post by: Kinslayer on July 15, 2005, 08:38:52 PM
Post by: kodakumi on July 16, 2005, 02:16:15 AM
they only have some internet thingo backing it up (so ive heard)
i think the mayor is just finding someone to blame because, i think he caused all of it himself, just covering it up.
Post by: Drace on July 16, 2005, 10:11:16 AM
Post by: White Dwarf on July 16, 2005, 12:29:30 PM
...just so ya know...
Post by: Drace on July 16, 2005, 02:20:48 PM
Post by: Razor on July 17, 2005, 10:14:33 AM
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you relise they know the 4 people who done it now and know they ARE english...and that they were forced to do it by someone or something, not by there own freewill...
...just so ya know...
no, actually, most if not all was free will. they got caught up with the fantactism (or whatever the word is)
and they (some or all) came from rich pakistani families. or something. I haven't been bothered to read the news since that information.