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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Sephiroth rocks on July 23, 2005, 12:12:02 PM

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Post by: Sephiroth rocks on July 23, 2005, 12:12:02 PM

Yet another terrorist attack. 83 killed so far.

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Post by: White Dwarf on July 23, 2005, 12:16:52 PM

This is getting stupid. People are dieing but there not telling us why, there not telling us what they want or what they want us to do, were left to assume. Why cant they just tell us what they want, we give it to them, and it ends...

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Post by: Dragonium on July 23, 2005, 12:38:59 PM

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This is getting stupid. People are dieing but there not telling us why, there not telling us what they want or what they want us to do, were left to assume. Why cant they just tell us what they want, we give it to them, and it ends...

But if we just give them what they want, they will realise that by killing people in these attacks, they can easily get whatever they want, and everything goes wacko.

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Post by: Drace on July 23, 2005, 12:39:31 PM

Goddamnit these terrorist are ****ing retards!

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 23, 2005, 12:54:35 PM

It's a lose-lose situation. If we don't give them anything, they'll continue until they get what they want. If we give them what they want, they'll continue because they know they can get things fro mus if they ask for it. Either way, it's going to continue.

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Post by: Bart_Fatima on July 23, 2005, 01:00:01 PM

Sons of bitches! These bastards should be stopped. CIA! FBI! SWAT! Anything, find em, dont let em talk blast the hell out of them.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 23, 2005, 01:04:59 PM

CIA doesn't use weapons, at least to my understanding. And sending those guys you listed in to stop them is stupid. You'd have to do so many night missions to try and pick off so many people. interrogate them and kill them. It's not easy. And if one of those guys gets caught a beheaded, what would you say then? We need our spies.

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Post by: Drace on July 23, 2005, 01:12:45 PM

What we need is to infiltrate where ever these terrorists are and send the best commandos we have, licenced to kill.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 23, 2005, 01:20:58 PM

Yeah. Find Al Queda. That's a joke. They're everywhere, the US, Middle East, Europe, Asia. They exist everywhere. You'll never get them all.

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Post by: Drace on July 23, 2005, 02:16:41 PM

If we kill all we can find it will still be better.

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Post by: Robotam on July 23, 2005, 03:17:04 PM

They want nothing else than the world and our pathetic lifes.
We can't give that to them.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on July 23, 2005, 03:18:40 PM

*sigh* soon.. hopefully soon..

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Post by: Tomi on July 23, 2005, 04:12:36 PM

*bows head for those who died*

*flicks off Al Queda*

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on July 23, 2005, 06:42:08 PM

Ugh... when will it end...

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Post by: Weregnome on July 24, 2005, 12:33:04 AM

terrorism is **** but just remember one thing: Al Queda is being blamed for the new terrorist attacks, when actually its been fanatic groups of Al Queda who are responsible. Al Queda did 9/11. I'm not backing em, no way am I. I'm just saying its different groups.

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Post by: PyroAlchemist on July 24, 2005, 12:34:35 AM

I say we just go and take out the SOB's instead of trying to comprimise.

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Post by: Weregnome on July 24, 2005, 12:38:36 AM

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I say we just go and take out the SOB's instead of trying to comprimise.

Its impossible to take them all out. They are numberless. As i one dies for some reason another spawns.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on July 24, 2005, 03:09:11 AM

Drace, I completely disagree with you. Killing is not the answer, if you kill the enemy then you yourself 'are' the enemy. That is not the way to think my friend. In all honesty, for a person to kill (most people) it's not at all easy...even 'tho' killing is a natural instinct we all share. It's not easy...to kill, so my friend I'm sorry to say that I think of you as quite arrogant for saying such a thing..don't take offense, just think on it. Sometimes things happen for unknown reasons. We may never know who is 'truely' behind these attacks, remember the media doesn't always tell the whole story. So try not to assume so many things...and that's all I guess...

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Post by: Trevlac on July 24, 2005, 03:09:16 AM

We should kill all of their victims before they get a chance.  Then they have nothing.  I'm teasing.

Though, I am the type of person who, if confronted with a situation of a murderer with a hostage, I would shoot the hostage in the hip.  Just so the murderer is surprised and then I can switch to a second firearm loaded with illegal "talon" ammunition and fire off 7 380 AUTO rounds right into his chest.  That'll blow several chunks of him away and likely cut him in half.  But I wouldn't kill him :P

Back on topic, terrorists will always exist as long as there are people who want power, and people who are gullible.  All I have to say.

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Post by: coasterkrazy on July 24, 2005, 03:18:33 AM

I always thought terrorists do what they do because of some weird religious thing.

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Post by: Trevlac on July 24, 2005, 03:31:32 AM

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I always thought terrorists do what they do because of some weird religious thing.

That's what they tell their followers, or should I say, their livestock.

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on July 24, 2005, 04:25:52 AM

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I always thought terrorists do what they do because of some weird religious thing.

Yeah, they believe they will go to heaven and get 79 virgin girls or something.

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Post by: Pythis on July 24, 2005, 04:34:55 AM

or 80 >_> anyway what kind of religion is that? I mean what kind of religion thinks if you do the devils work you will end up in heaven? That is so ****ed up.


P.S believe me I did not curse I put the asteriks(sp?) there by myself.

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Post by: Drace on July 24, 2005, 11:39:25 AM

I don't believe in any religion. But if there is a Hell or something, I hope they go there and ask Satan. "Hey! Where are my virgins?" and then Satan will say. "Oh yeah, over there." and it will reveal 80 gay virgins which he has to take everyday.

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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on July 24, 2005, 12:54:08 PM

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I say we just go and take out the SOB's instead of trying to comprimise.

Maybe you havn't noticed this whole Iraq war situation...

Kinda retarded how he linked taking down Sadam to killing Osama.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 25, 2005, 04:38:13 AM

You guys just don't understand warfare and all that. Learn it before you post stupid crap.

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Post by: Drace on July 25, 2005, 06:26:17 AM

And just who made you the expert here?

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Post by: WarxePB on July 25, 2005, 03:58:26 PM

Drace, you are too arrogant for your own good.


As for terrorism... it's the natural way of the world. Good and evil. Which side is which is disputable, but as long as humans are human, it will be.

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anyway what kind of religion is that? I mean what kind of religion thinks if you do the devils work you will end up in heaven?

According to you, Bush, and most of the US (and some of Europe), they are doing the devil's work. But have you ever thought about their point of view? They believe they're sacrificing themselves for the greater good. And if someone came and took over your country by force, wouldn't you fight back?

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Post by: Sephiroth rocks on July 25, 2005, 08:30:50 PM

Well guess they're probably doing it 'cuz they're being invaded. Not physically but mentally as the western world is consuming the world these years leaving no room for other cultures. So their culture is being stolen by the western world. But  still can't see why blowing innocent ppl up should help any. The only thing to do is probably to raise security.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 25, 2005, 08:58:34 PM

Raising security isn't a bad idea, however, enemies can still slip by security. Terrorism will not stop, ever.

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Post by: Kinslayer on July 25, 2005, 09:23:29 PM

Those terrorists and their cowardy make me sick... If they have the guts that they claim to have, they would kill the people who really are their enemies, like Bush or Blair, instead of killing innocents. I hope that this will be over soon, with no more bloodshed.

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Post by: Trevlac on July 25, 2005, 09:45:26 PM

Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki*

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Post by: Midnight9795 on July 25, 2005, 09:54:26 PM

*kicks Trev* Kijuki's not even here, :p

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Post by: Kinslayer on July 25, 2005, 09:59:00 PM

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Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki*

We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ****ing BURN IN HELL!!!

 As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil, but bombing innocents because of that you are invaded is not a solution. If you are so strong and so much powerful, and have that net of spies around the world, stop messing with innocents. If you're gonna fight for Iraq, fight the soldiers in Iraq. The people who die at this attacks have nothing to do with the invasion towards Middle- Eastern countries, and if you want to defend your country, fight with the people you HAVE to fight, and quit killing innocents. That goes to the marines who kill civilians at Iraq everyday.

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Post by: Razor on July 25, 2005, 10:06:14 PM

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We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!

Did it ever occur to you that these guys are probably thinkin the same thing?

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Post by: Kinslayer on July 25, 2005, 10:11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Kinslayer We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!

Did it ever occur to you that these guys are probably thinkin the same thing?

There is a great difference in what I think and what they think, AND THAT DIFFERENCE RELIES IN THAT I DON'T THINK THAT BOMBING PEOPLE AROUND IS A SUITABLE SOLUTION.

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Post by: Drace on July 25, 2005, 10:57:11 PM

Basicly, the western world does the same thing to the terrorist countries. But we have made it "legal".

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 25, 2005, 11:32:29 PM

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Those terrorists and their cowardy make me sick... If they have the guts that they claim to have, they would kill the people who really are their enemies, like Bush or Blair, instead of killing innocents. I hope that this will be over soon, with no more bloodshed.

The way to win is to take the fight out of the civilians. Do that, there's not much resistance or drive. People will turn their backs on the cause either in fear or in spite of the leaders because they "aren't doing anything to stop them." They know that in order to destroy the power of a nation, you have to take out the "weaker" first, so they cannot become stronger and resist.

This endless battle called "war" will never end. Blood will continue to be shed for centuries and eons. Fighting is the only way to maintain peace, whether it is the most moral or not. Negotiations do not work because there is always disagreement and the treaties will be broken if pushed just a little. Wars are the only way for peace, like it or not.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 25, 2005, 11:37:08 PM

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Originally posted by Trevlac Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki*

We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!

 As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil, but bombing innocents because of that you are invaded is not a solution. If you are so strong and so much powerful, and have that net of spies around the world, stop messing with innocents. If you're gonna fight for Iraq, fight the soldiers in Iraq. The people who die at this attacks have nothing to do with the invasion towards Middle- Eastern countries, and if you want to defend your country, fight with the people you HAVE to fight, and quit killing innocents. That goes to the marines who kill civilians at Iraq everyday.

I'm sorry for the double post, but I have to say my piece.

You are very ignorant. "Don't kill civilians"? In war, civilians do not exist. Everyone is capable of killing, militant or not. Other countries killed America's civilians, barely anyone gave a rip about it. Why? Because America is everyone's savior and it doesn't matter if their people are killed. In war you cannot classify anyone as a civilian because you do not know who are civilians and who aren't. The tactics of the militants in Iraq are quite impressive, though we always cap them. The ydress up as civilians so we can't touch them. Any civilian can ru nout there and blow the hell out of our guys. And don't you ****ing DARE insult the US Marines. They protect Argentina's *** too. So shut up and don't be an ignorant fool.

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Post by: BlackIceAdept on July 25, 2005, 11:43:22 PM

I don't even think we (The us) needs to even have armed forces the only thing we should have is border control and coast guard otherwise having milatry is redunit.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 25, 2005, 11:48:42 PM

So, you want us to go into isolation again, like we did in the 20's? I don't like the fact that we go in to help everyone when a problem doesn't really involve us, but you have to remember, we're a diverse culture and we're the biggest power in the world. If we don't help, we could be in some major trouble. Many people would turn on us, giving us more enemies to face off against. We need a military to enforce what Truman or Eisenhower wished for... containment. Keep the "evil" from spreading and keep it where it is. I don't like much about Truman or Eisenhower, but containment was a good plan.

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Post by: Tomi on July 26, 2005, 12:22:57 AM

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As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil,

If Bush was going only for the money, you should be liking it.  You know how much foreign aid the U.S. gives to MANY other countries (including yours)?  Many times, this is the money that is keeping these countries alive (not nessisarilly yours, but some are).  Its not like the U.S. government is selfish when it comes to foreign affairs.  And also, the U.N., who seems to hate the U.S. right now, would not exist without the U.S.'s money.  If the U.S. pulled its funding now, the U.N. would collapse.  

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Post by: Kinslayer on July 27, 2005, 08:25:55 PM

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Originally posted by Kinslayer quote: Originally posted by Trevlac Now, now.  We can't disrespect terrorists on Charas. What if one of them saw this topic, he would be offended. *Glares at Kijuki* We are not disrespecting the terrorists... We just think different than them, and if they can't accept that, they will ******* BURN IN HELL!!!  As for myself... I don't agree with Bush imperialism and his will of wanting to win money by invading other countries who happen to have a heck of a lot of oil, but bombing innocents because of that you are invaded is not a solution. If you are so strong and so much powerful, and have that net of spies around the world, stop messing with innocents. If you're gonna fight for Iraq, fight the soldiers in Iraq. The people who die at this attacks have nothing to do with the invasion towards Middle- Eastern countries, and if you want to defend your country, fight with the people you HAVE to fight, and quit killing innocents. That goes to the marines who kill civilians at Iraq everyday.

I'm sorry for the double post, but I have to say my piece.

You are very ignorant. "Don't kill civilians"? In war, civilians do not exist. Everyone is capable of killing, militant or not. Other countries killed America's civilians, barely anyone gave a rip about it. Why? Because America is everyone's savior and it doesn't matter if their people are killed. In war you cannot classify anyone as a civilian because you do not know who are civilians and who aren't. The tactics of the militants in Iraq are quite impressive, though we always cap them. The ydress up as civilians so we can't touch them. Any civilian can ru nout there and blow the hell out of our guys. And don't you ******* DARE insult the US Marines. They protect Argentina's *** too. So shut up and don't be an ignorant fool.

How dare you to call me an ignorant. If we are speaking with courtesy, and you are correct, then there would not be any need to insult me. I am a lot of stuff, but not an ignorant. I was speaking from a peaceful point of vew, I certainly despice warfare, because it drives mankind way back in time, and killing only brings more killing. I am NOT insulting US's marines, because of that I am speaking the truth, LIKE IT OR NOT. And rune... The US has done more historycal harm to my country, than helped it... DON'T YOU ####### REMEMBER THE 70'IES AND THE 60'IES, WHEN THE USA's GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED THE MILITAR DICTATURES IN MY COUNTRY, WHILE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DESSAPEARED, LEAVING MORE THAN 3000 FAMILIES WITHOUT THEIR RELATIVES, AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY LIVED IN FEAR.
It is, in fact true that some iraqi civiliansd can come out and blow thamselves up, but there are a lot who do not do that and, yet, die, why?, because of that fear that is overcoming everyone. Think twice before insulting someone who happens to live in a country that has to suffer economical trouble because of it's mandataries, and the "help" that came from the outsiders, like your president.


"If Bush was going only for the money, you should be liking it. You know how much foreign aid the U.S. gives to MANY other countries (including yours)? Many times, this is the money that is keeping these countries alive (not nessisarilly yours, but some are). Its not like the U.S. government is selfish when it comes to foreign affairs. And also, the U.N., who seems to hate the U.S. right now, would not exist without the U.S.'s money. If the U.S. pulled its funding now, the U.N. would collapse. "

Tomi... you don't live here, and we do not get any aid from the US. In fact... all that Bush does is to say "Oh, Argentina is doing fine with the economical plan", AN ECONOMYCAL PLAN THAT PRODUCES INFLATION AND STILL LEAVES HUNGRY PEOPLE AT THE INTERIOR PROVINCES, BUT GIVES A LOT TO THE OUTSIDE ENTERPRISES WHO ARE THE REAL WINNERS OF ALL THIS ####### MESS.And dude... the UN does certainly not hate the US... because of that it would ALREADY have acted. I want to remind you that the real winners of the world's big mess are the big enterprises, and Bush for suporting them.

Let us end this pointless discussion here, because of that we are waisting our time discussing about something that we will not work out, because we think different. I hope that you did not mean to call me an ignorant, rune, because of that you and me both know that we both are not ignorants, that is why we can discuss at this level without punching each other.
All that is clear is that everyone here repulses this violence and hopes that it can end soon, allright?

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on July 28, 2005, 06:53:29 AM

I can't really remember the 70's and 60's when I was never alive then...

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Post by: Drace on July 28, 2005, 09:40:39 AM

60's & 70's, Hippies and Disco. Vietnam war and if I'm correct at the early 60's the Korean war.