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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 02:19:58 AM

Title: F*CKING F*CK!!!!!
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 02:19:58 AM
Complicity.

I was with my friends, a boy and a girl. I wont name any names. We went to UDF and he stole some Corona. (got away with that) Then we walked on to Sam Goodys. He went in, stole a FMA DVD (he's stolen them before, and tons of other ****). Then he tried to steal some porn DVDs. What went wrong was, we were the only ones in the store, and they heard the wrapper's crinkling. They caught him, and told us all to leave, but as he walked out the door, the alarm went off, and they told him to stay.

Here's the bullsh!t part: Me and the girl were waiting for him, when they told us to go om because he was being arrested. I picked up his bookbag that he had left outside and was gonna hang onto it until I saw him again (like any normal friend would). Me and her got a bit down the street and the police pulls over and takes us back to Sam's. I'm found with his Corona (that he put in his bag), but I explained it was his, and he later confirmed it in the station.

Anyways, I was taken in and charged with complicity to theft. Basically, it means that simply because I was with him and didn't stop him or notify the police, I was apart of it. And so is true for the girl. I admitted that I knew he was going to steal, but I didn't know what, and I didn't help in the act, nor I did I tell him too, and he wasnt doing it for me. But I wasnt about to tell on my friend, and he probably wouldnt have listened to me if I had told him not to anyways.

I would like to hear some opinons on what have transpired tonight. Do you think this is fair what they've done? Charging me for something I played no part in?
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Post by: ~*Sweet Ichifo*~ on August 27, 2005, 02:22:03 AM
I dont think its fair. You didnt do anything and you didnt steal anything, you were just there, but you were a witness, but they shouldnt have questioned you.
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Post by: kodakumi on August 27, 2005, 02:27:39 AM
i dont think you should have been charged.

but!!!

you were a witness, you should have reported to the coppers.

i made the same mistake 2 years ago, something closely related happened.
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Post by: GhostClown on August 27, 2005, 02:42:22 AM
Well, if you hang with stupid people, stupid things happen.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 02:45:16 AM
GC is right, he shouldn't have put you through that crap.
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Post by: WarxePB on August 27, 2005, 02:50:09 AM
If you are witness to a crime, you have the responsibility to report it to the authorities.
You shouldn't have gone if you knew he was stealing stuff, and you knew you weren't going to report him. You can blame no one but yourself, and you are childish to think that you can not be held responsible.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 02:53:38 AM
Put yourself in my situation. You're just hanging out with some friends and one suggest you head over to a store. On the way there he says he gonna steal some stuff. Now, would you pull out your cell phone and call the police behind his back? Hell no, you just go with the flow, mind your own business and let him do whatever he's going to.
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Post by: WarxePB on August 27, 2005, 02:56:00 AM
And you think that excuse is going to get you off?
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 02:58:49 AM
I'm not gonna lie. I was not going to turn my friend in even if I had the opportunity, but since he was caught, there was no reason to hide it, and I told them everything that happened.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on August 27, 2005, 03:05:56 AM
When he's about to steal something, just walk off for a few mins, and then head back. You aren't near him when he stole and can plausibly deny any knowledge of it.
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on August 27, 2005, 03:06:58 AM
If I were you, I probably would have at least tried to convince him to not steal. But yeah, I agree it's pretty stupid to be arrested for not preventing a crime, especially if your friend did it. o_0
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Post by: Osmose on August 27, 2005, 03:17:20 AM
You're walking down the street. He brags that he's going to steal something. So don't be near him!

If you're going to hang out with some little twit who wants to steal stuff instead of get a job and actually earn something, then don't whine about how you got in trouble because you were with him while he stole the stuff.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 03:24:31 AM
Well, I did get the last laugh. This cop was all "I see you're into the rock and roll style with those clothes" and I said "actually, I'm into classical" and he was all "Well you'd better stop with the rock style and start dressing with the classical style" I almost died trying to stop myself from laughing.

Of course, the cop driving me home shouldn't have cussed me out... that wasn't nice.
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Post by: Osmose on August 27, 2005, 03:27:01 AM
He does have a point. If you're tired of people assuming your into rock, don't dress like a rock fan. Either that or just learn to live with that assumption following you around.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 03:41:06 AM
Another thing, the guy who stole had his tooth pulled out earlier that day, and was spiting blood in a pop bottle. It was filled up pretty bad (i was concerned with him loosing so much blood). The cops also found that in his bag.
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Post by: Osmose on August 27, 2005, 03:43:58 AM
Vampire soda?

Oh, crap, I'm not in Shireroth. Ignore the spam.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 03:45:34 AM
Well, I'm sure that'll look real good in court when they whip out the evedence and show a big ol' bottle of blood to the judge.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 03:52:19 AM
O.o yeah... that would be pretty... weird...

Friend: I'm trying to keep it so I can put it back in later.
Judge: O.o
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Post by: DragonBlaze on August 27, 2005, 04:07:03 AM
Well I am sorry for you, but lets see here: Your friend told you he was gonna steal stuff, you knew, you still hung around with him, then you had the bag in your possetion. It other words, you were an accesory to theft. Next time just stay away from friends that will land you in jail.

Anyway, I hope everything turns out well for you.
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Post by: dragoninja on August 27, 2005, 04:33:09 AM
Alright, let me get this straight:
A friend of yours were going to snatch some stuffs,
You wait outside with the other friend AND you're holding his bag (or something) that contained another stolen goods. he gets caught trying to sneak out with the item. the police arrests the three of you...

where in this conclution are you NOT guilty?
Nowhere, you basicly helped him stealing stuffs by: not telling him not to do it, holding stolen goods and witness the crime and not report it to the police... and you call that friendship? Friends do help eachother, yes. but not help them become criminals... AND you made it worse for yourself aswell...
If he is considered a friend, you should help him to understand that crime is not cool and it shouldn't go unpunished...
If you ask me, you have the wrong kind of friends, If you don't like getting caught by the cops, then don't play with the wrong kids...

do you want to be on the wrong side of the law?
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on August 27, 2005, 04:42:52 AM
I don't see how the bottle is connected to the shoplifting. Are they going to assume you killed someone and, for some reason, kept the guy's blood? o_0
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Post by: dragoninja on August 27, 2005, 04:45:57 AM
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I don't see how the bottle is connected to the shoplifting. Are they going to assume you killed someone and, for some reason, kept the guy's blood? o_0

Yo! FFL2 has a point there! but how stupid are you to keep a bottle of blood in a bag containing stolen goods (or from now on: evidance)
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 04:51:45 AM
Cop: This is some good cherry soda!

Everybody: ... *jaws drop*

Cop: What? *looks at bottle* OH MY GOD!!!! *runs out of the court, loud barfing is heard*

Judge: Uhhh... well... I call a short... er... recess...
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 04:55:45 AM
I was only carrying his stuff because he might not have been able to get it, and I was going to give it to him in school.
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Post by: Spike21 on August 27, 2005, 05:02:00 AM
You did exactly wut i did when my friends steal stuff. that is wut i would expect someone to do in this situation.

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Of course, the cop driving me home shouldn't have cussed me out... that wasn't nice.


and yeah a cop cursed at me just because i had my hair died green and made a weird punk joke.
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Post by: dragoninja on August 27, 2005, 05:13:08 AM
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I was only carrying his stuff because he might not have been able to get it, and I was going to give it to him in school.

heh, you were actualy gonna give the stolen goods back to your friend?
you only make yourself sound even more guilty by the minute...
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 05:17:03 AM
Yeah... thats really not smart to carry around stolen goods even if you didn't steal them, of course you'll get in trouble.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 05:44:56 AM
Oh, I planned on drinking his beer, THEN giving it back to him. Heh
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 05:49:24 AM
Really worth getting arrested over...
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 27, 2005, 05:52:22 AM
I was in an exact situation as you, because, when I went to high school, there's this K-Mart across the street. Everybody that went to that high school stole something from that K-Mart because there was like two cameras in the entire store.

I know a guy who walked out with an X-Box in his trench coat.

But anyways, there was this one guy, he had a shopping cart full of stuff, some bags, big items. As soon as he was done checking out, he says he wants to check out a couple of things. I said okay. So, I take a look at some other things while he looks around too. So, when we're ready to leave, the alarm goes off as we're walking out. I noticed in his cart, he had like 25 CD's stashed in there.

The cops were there too, they thought I was helping him but I wasn't even with him when I did it. They checked security cameras and confirmed it later.

But, it sucks when you're in that kind of situation. I had no idea he was going to do that either.
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Post by: Trevlac on August 27, 2005, 05:58:10 AM
If he was your friend, he would have been wise enough to keep his problems (stealing) to himself and not involve you in any way.  It is not right for the authorities to charge you what so ever.  However, I would have told him he would be on his own that night and left when I saw him steal the beer.
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Post by: kodakumi on August 27, 2005, 06:24:58 AM
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If he was your friend, he would have been wise enough to keep his problems (stealing) to himself and not involve you in any way.  It is not right for the authorities to charge you what so ever.  However, I would have told him he would be on his own that night and left when I saw him steal the beer.


i disagree trevo

the dude stealing things might have needed some mental support, and also they might have been friends for quite awhile.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 27, 2005, 06:28:54 AM
Yep! I've known this guy since like 6th grade.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 06:38:04 AM
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the dude stealing things might have needed some mental support, and also they might have been friends for quite awhile.


Not a good excuse, no good friend drags another into such crap. He should be told off. And if he ever tries it again, he's on his own. It's inexusable to drag a good friend into your crimes, it's downright sick.
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Post by: Drace on August 27, 2005, 08:33:17 AM
I agree with stuff that DF and GC and Warxe said.
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Post by: Robotam on August 27, 2005, 09:14:56 AM
Next time stealing apears as something he has to do, make sure "you" don't get caught.
Sure, I'd be pissed too if a police arrested me for such matters. But I wouldn't be suprised, they're just doing their jobs after all.
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Post by: maxine on August 27, 2005, 12:38:11 PM
i would just tell him not too if i knew he was gonna steal.... Thats just me
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Post by: Drighton on August 27, 2005, 01:30:49 PM
i was in a similar situation:

my friend gets this brilliant idea to steal a stop sign from one of the newly rising subdivisions in our area. My brother and friend's brother both agree and start grabbing tools. I didn't speak up for the same reason. They would have just blown me off and done it anyway. This is where my reasoning went sour... I went with them. Of course, we got caught, and I was in trouble, even though I didn't even touch the sign. The most I did was go and pee on the side of one of the semi-built houses.

Anywho, if your with the group, its safe to assume that your a part of the crime in some fashion. I agree with this, even though I've been on the side in handcuffs. :p
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Post by: Sephiroth12317 on August 27, 2005, 02:22:15 PM
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Well, if you hang with stupid people, stupid things happen.


Yup I agree Ghostclown. But I think that its really unfair! Some people today dont believe what they hear. Overall you shouldnt have been arrested.
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Post by: Drighton on August 27, 2005, 02:34:28 PM
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Well, if you hang with stupid people, stupid things happen.


Yup I agree Ghostclown. But I think that its really unfair! Some people today dont believe what they hear. Overall you shouldnt have been arrested.


Are we talking whether it was fair or whether is was just? Because fair has nothing to do with it. Unless we look at it this way:

It was unfair that the employees of both facilities had to deal with this character because his supposed friends would allow him to do something so unimaginably stupid in the first place.
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Post by: charaman on August 27, 2005, 06:00:40 PM
damn dude, that sucks. I do have to say I would have done the same thing as you.
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Post by: Grandy on August 27, 2005, 06:07:53 PM
 I would do the same as you did. I wouldn't say it was him (unless, of course, he tries to blam ME or anyone else nearby), but if he was caugh and they asked me, I would tell the truth.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 27, 2005, 06:53:07 PM
Meh, it's times like this that the "big brother" approach is better than letting it happen. It doesn't matter if he's a good friend, he drags you into this, he's doing it not only to him but you as well.
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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on August 27, 2005, 09:14:38 PM
Well, you did know he was going to steal, but that's no reason to arrest someone. I hope you don't go all crazy and start hating the police. They're just doing their job.


BTW, I'm on no one's side.
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Post by: White Dwarf on August 27, 2005, 09:41:31 PM
I would let them steal. I wouldent steal myself, but I wouldent stop my friend from stealing and I wouldent tell. But if I got cought I would just say it was all him. meh... I dont really respect/care about any of my friends enouth to care if they go to jail. But that's just me being me. An ***hole.

meh... I suppose I'm just a bastard.
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Post by: Drace on August 27, 2005, 09:55:23 PM
A bastard coated bastard with a bastard flavoured filling.
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Post by: charaman on August 27, 2005, 10:23:25 PM
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I would let them steal. I wouldent steal myself, but I wouldent stop my friend from stealing and I wouldent tell. But if I got cought I would just say it was all him. meh... I dont really respect/care about any of my friends enouth to care if they go to jail. But that's just me being me. An *******.

meh... I suppose I'm just a bastard.


same.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on August 28, 2005, 12:04:30 AM
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Well, if you hang with stupid people, stupid things happen.


Excelent. You too Dark Fox.
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 02:19:31 AM
Remember kids, do all the stupid **** you possibly can before you're eighteen.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 02:37:47 AM
Or not at all.
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Post by: dragoninja on August 28, 2005, 02:41:30 AM
Don't do bad stuffs at all... makes life harder it does.
Go DF and GC!
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 03:41:27 AM
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Or not at all.


EVERYONE has done one bad thing in their life. Show me someone who hasn't, and I'll show you a ****ing boring person.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 03:43:42 AM
Hey, not doing bad stuff does not make that person boring. Thats stupid. But sure, people mess up, they can't be perfect, but we should try to keep ourselves from screwing up.
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 03:46:43 AM
Would you rather listen to someone telling a story about how they sat home and read a book all day or how they made a daring escape out of a prison using a knife made out a a toothbrush?
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on August 28, 2005, 03:52:12 AM
I agree with you Sleepaid. And also, I would have done what you did Asa, except I would have hidden the bag knowing that I would have been dragged into it. But that's probably because I've gotten used to this kinda thing by now.


And all of those who think that he should ditch his friend because he does something that is socially looked down upon, would have lost all respect in my eyes if any of you ever had it to begin with. Just because he has a "bad" habit doesn't mean he isn't a good friend. It was Asa's choice to stay.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 03:58:34 AM
 
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Would you rather listen to someone telling a story about how they sat home and read a book all day or how they made a daring escape out of a prison using a knife made out a a toothbrush?


No, but I wouldn't want to be in prison to begin with.

 
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And all of those who think that he should ditch his friend because he does something that is socially looked down upon


I didn't say ditch, but the guy needs to be told off that he should never bring them into it, especisally if they'll all get in trouble for it, he was obviously not thinking of his friends when he did this stuff but just what he could get away with for himself. Do you consider that good?
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 03:59:35 AM
I think a way it could be put is:

Would you be happy if your firned called YOU in?

I certainly wouldn't be.

Way ****ing loyal friend you got there.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 04:01:38 AM
I wouldn't like to be turned in or turn sombody else in, but I would also hate to be put into the situation to begin with just because my "friend" decided to take me along in his endeavor (sp?)
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 04:04:34 AM
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Would you rather listen to someone telling a story about how they sat home and read a book all day or how they made a daring escape out of a prison using a knife made out a a toothbrush?


No, but I wouldn't want to be in prison to begin with.



I said nothing about you being in prison.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 04:07:45 AM
I wouldn't want him in trouble to begin with, honestly I would have tried whatever to stop him, if he don't want to listen and brushes you off then he's being not very friendlike. Now if you guys get out of this I suggest you get some words in to your friend to best try to avoid a repeat.
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 04:34:55 AM
...and so, he continued watching a movie about a woman who could knit. Then, the next day, told his friend all about it, and later turned him into the cops.

Oh well, you have your opinions, I have mine....


I'm right though  :D
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 04:38:03 AM
 
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...and so, he continued watching a movie about a woman who could knit. Then, the next day, told his friend all about it, and later turned him into the cops.


-_- I'd myswell be talking to a log.

 
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Oh well, you have your opinions, I have mine....


Exactly... even though yours involves letting your friend get knee deep in crap...

 
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Sure you are, sure you are.
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 04:39:13 AM
You're knew to this whole humor thing aren't you?
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 04:40:29 AM
No, I'm just not good at joking at a bad situation. I've been in a jail once, it looked awful. I'd only imagine it would be worse behind those bars, and seeing a friend behind them... ugh... I shudder at the thought.
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Post by: SleepAid on August 28, 2005, 04:42:14 AM
If you can't make light of a situation, you're going to have one depressing life, dude.

I for one am tired and want to lie down. You have fun with that m'kay?
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Post by: Darkfox on August 28, 2005, 04:43:15 AM
I can make light of some situations, but for the bigger ones it's best to take concerns before jokes until they pass.

Plus criminal actions go on a permenant record, and once their there it gets really difficult to get jobs in the future.
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Post by: Drace on August 28, 2005, 08:48:44 AM
Remember. A good friend will bail you out of jail, but a great friend will sit next to you and say: "We screwed up man!".
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Post by: Weregnome on August 28, 2005, 09:19:32 AM
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...and so, he continued watching a movie about a woman who could knit. Then, the next day, told his friend all about it, and later turned him into the cops.

Oh well, you have your opinions, I have mine....


I'm right though  :D


rofl! ah thats ****ing funny.

anywho... I would contribute.. but it'll be all the same answers (besides my m8s have never stolen before)
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Post by: Razor on August 28, 2005, 10:03:23 AM
Well Asa, the police pwned j00.

As for Charaman and White Dwarf, you two need friends.



And as for myself, I'm smart enough not to make friends with morons who steal.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 28, 2005, 04:51:56 PM
Hehe.. I drew flowers and butterflies all over the papers they gave me to fill out..
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Post by: Blademon on August 29, 2005, 01:13:45 AM
You might have a record, that's bad.

Complicity to theft, it's hard, because technically you were just that.
I stole stupid candy bars when I was around 8, me and my sister. Money only came from our small allowance and well that total of maybe $100 through the months meant a lot. The funny part was trying to win contests with things you stole and bringing them back to claim the prize. I was with my sister, she continued something really small a few years later, got caught ahd banned from the whole chain.

I also met a thief guy in University, he was funny, way more daring than the **** I did.

Oh yeah, I also stole like 10 pages of Pogs, again the allowance story, it was so damn low, Pogs were cool at the time and I needed them.


Point is (uh..) it's only funny when you're young, you'll get caught, and later on it hurts a lot more. Stealing made me learn not to be greedy, you never know when to stop, when to go for the bigger prize. Hopefully you all learned that as well, 1-2 catches and you should run for it.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 29, 2005, 01:34:02 AM
 
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Run from the cops? Then you'll get a resisting arrest charge O.o
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Post by: Blademon on August 29, 2005, 01:52:17 AM
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Run from the cops? Then you'll get a resisting arrest charge O.o

No they should of stopped after the second item stolen and called it a day. It's hard to though, but if you're greedy, you're bound to get caught. Stopping is the hardest part. (for some conventional wisdom)
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Post by: Darkfox on August 29, 2005, 01:54:48 AM
Greed is one of those destructive things. I try not to be greedy, not saying that I am not, because I have the feel of greed in me but I find it hard to accept money XD so I'm not very greedy.
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Post by: Blademon on August 29, 2005, 02:00:08 AM
That's exactly what I said. It's not just stealing here (with the pitfall of getting caught), you flip that coin heads 5 times in a row, you can double up money or lose it all. You're bound to lose if you're to greedy, learning when to stop will eliminate it. A lot of situations will require to think that way.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 29, 2005, 02:03:43 AM
Agreed, it's best not to take such risks since they can damage your social life and occupational future as well.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 29, 2005, 02:07:05 AM
Meh. I can still steal form school. Once I stole a HUGE hold puncher, used to punch through hundreds of pages with ease..
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Post by: SleepAid on August 29, 2005, 04:44:04 AM
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Meh. I can still steal form school. Once I stole a HUGE hold puncher, used to punch through hundreds of pages with ease..


Can I borrow that?
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Post by: Darkfox on August 29, 2005, 04:50:52 AM
He said "used to" so I'm guessing it's busted now XD
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Post by: Razor on August 29, 2005, 05:11:11 AM
Was that a joke? I can't tell with you sometimes DF :P
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Post by: Drace on August 29, 2005, 08:53:35 AM
Come on ladies, be nice.
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Post by: White Dwarf on August 29, 2005, 09:35:29 AM
Yeh... I dident say before but I dout ask is going to "tell on his friend" because he himself steals things, so the situation might happen again with him on his friends end, and if he gave up on his friend, his friends are going to give up on him.