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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: knight_sky on August 28, 2005, 10:58:49 PM

Title: Final Fantasy-Revolution
Post by: knight_sky on August 28, 2005, 10:58:49 PM

1.Story
1000 Year's ago Cloud stoped Shinra from taking over the world.
Now Shinra is back and they started the next revolution.
SeeD's are tring to stop Shira but Shinra is to powerful.
The main hero is Sky he want's to stop the revolution befor any one eles dies(his dad died).

2.Features:
FF7 Materia sytem
FF7 Music
FF8 SeeD's
FF8 Garden's(The school's)
FF10 Aeon system(You control the aeon)
I can't forget Mog's and Chocobo's.
I'm still working on the CMS.

3.Charater's
>  Sky:
Age:13
Class: Warrior
Weapon: Sword
Height: 5'1"
Birthdate: August 11
Birthplace: Tiren
Bloodtype: B
>  Kira:
Age: 13
Class: Sommoner
Weapon: Staff
Height: 5'2"
Birthdate: April 21
Birthplace: Tiren
Bloodtype: AB
>  Leon:
Age: 14
Class: SeeD
Weapon: Gunblade
Height: 5'4"
Brithdate: June 1
Brithplace: Wutai Garden
Bloodtype: A
>  Star:
Age: 13
Class: Chocobo Knight
Weapon: Lance's
Heght: 5'4"
Birthdate: May 7
Brithplace: Unknown
Bloodtype: O
>  Rave:
Age: 15
Class: X-Warrior
Weapon: Gun
Heght: 6'
Birthdate: Unknown
Birthplace: Unknown
Bloodtype: A
(The charater's wher made with the chara generator :) )

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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 29, 2005, 12:05:59 AM

I'm kinda tired of FF Fan Games.

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Post by: WarxePB on August 29, 2005, 12:28:06 AM

What Wildguy means, is that you could change the names and such a bit and get a nearly original game.

For example:

Shin-Ra could still be a weapons company (That is what it was originally, but then it started exploiting Mako and became an energy company), but what if it made WMD's, like atomic bombs and stuff? Then people would be a lot more motivated to destroy it, especially if it started fighting with another powerful country/company.

The SeeDs could still be trained mercenaries, but how about changing their names a bit? And instead of being hired to do stuff, maybe they just step in whenever there's a conflict between two countries, like a worldwide police force.


You could even keep the same name of the project, but changing a few elements could result in a much more original (and possibly better) game. Of course, if you want to make an FF7/8 crossover game, that's your choice.

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 29, 2005, 12:37:40 AM

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Originally posted by wildguy3922
I'm kinda tired of FF Fan Games.

When's the last time you played one from charas? Seriously.

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Post by: blaze_shinigami on August 29, 2005, 12:42:01 AM

i don't know why, but I want someone  to at least finish a Final Fantasy fangame, so i can have an opinion on one.

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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 29, 2005, 12:58:03 AM

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Originally posted by blaze_shinigami
i don't know why, but I want someone  to at least finish a Final Fantasy fangame, so i can have an opinion on one.

That's what I actually meant, though.

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Post by: blaze_shinigami on August 29, 2005, 01:40:40 AM

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Originally posted by wildguy3922

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Originally posted by blaze_shinigami i don't know why, but I want someone  to at least finish a Final Fantasy fangame, so i can have an opinion on one.

That's what I actually meant, though.

I say continue... atleast until we can see some pics/gfx

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Post by: DragonBlaze on August 29, 2005, 02:54:43 AM

Hehe, I just got done playing both FF7 and FF8, its been a while since I've played 10 though...

Anyway, SeeD's purpose is to stop the sorcoress, which is why they were founded. In other times, they act like mercinaries for their funds. Point being, its not really like them to attack Shin-ra for their own reasons, someone would have to hire them to do so. Now that I think about it, this paragraph doesn't have much of a purpose :p

Second, I wouldn't use Shin-ra. No one is gonna revive a company that has been dead for 1000 years. Besides, Shin-ra used mako energy, if 1000 years have past, I'd think the use of that kind of energy would simply be banned, or more likely a better source of power has been made. Well they also made wepons, so you could play around with that, but I'd still go with a new name, or at least shorten the time period from 1000 to lets say 100 (or whatever).

Third, you're oldest hero is 15. You have one high school freshmen, then a couple of 7th and 8th graders. I don't think they're gonna stand up to a world super-power. Besides, I don't see anyone becoming a SeeD at the age of 14 (or younger). I think in FF8 someone did it at the age of 16, but that was considered really young, I can't remember correctly though.

Anyway, this sounds a bit iffy to me. This could turn out to be a cool game, but there is a lot of stuff you need to work on first.

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 29, 2005, 07:13:37 PM

People these days have no imagination....
I would suggest  trying to make a fangame of Final Fantasy II, that has to be one of the best in the series.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 07:35:48 PM

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Originally posted by RPG LORD
People these days have no imagination....
I would suggest  trying to make a fangame of Final Fantasy II, that has to be one of the best in the series.

Ok. A: are you talking about the japan one or the american only release (aka ff 4 in japan) B: ff 2/ff4/whatever clearly wasn't the best. Most people say 7 was, though I disagree. I think that seven had a great battle system, and one of the coolest spells ever (knights of the round) but other then that I didn't think 7 was that great. It really had nothing to do in it other then the arcade place, and that had only about 4 games.

To me 3 and 9 were the best. Three's plot was just extrodinatory, and nine's gameplay was really likeable too. 8 was ok, but because of the magic system (aka drawing) and the summons plus magic junctioning, and the fact that monsters level up with you made the gameplay really suck. Great plot, crappy play.

But that's aside from the point. I just think that people should stop using cloud in there games. If they want to make a ff game, go ahead, but just DON'T USE CLOUD! It's like this, if you made a zelda game without link, then you could basically say that it's an original game with the save the girl plot. Just like that, all you have to do is switch the people you play and wella, you have your own game. Because no ff (aside from ffX2  :badboy: ) continues off the last, it would be an original game. Thus, you'd have your own game with only the name in common. Thus people won't look at it and think "I have to play as that sissy Cloud again?" or "not another fan game!"

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 29, 2005, 07:58:32 PM

Well I was talking about Final Fantasy 2, not 4. And I hope you ARE talking about Final Fantasy 3, since it is sickening to see too many people insult Final Fantasy 3 by using that name to refer to 6. But I must agree IX was at least one of the best.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 08:09:18 PM

Yes, I'm talking about ff 3 for the snes. And you're talking about ff2 from japan then?

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 29, 2005, 08:13:39 PM

Final Fantasy 3 was never on the SNES. It is merely an insult that they refer to 6 as 3. And yes I am talking about the real FF2. It is a beautiful game, but sadly enough underrated.
knightsky, have you ever played that one? It is certainly worth playing in my opinion. Maybe you should try making a game like that. But of course, it is your choice.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 08:24:31 PM

what what what what what! ff3 was for the snes you moron. You say it's an insult to refer to ff3 as 6, but you don;t even know the origin! I, meiscool, am very disapointed in you young man.

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 29, 2005, 08:40:37 PM

Are you going to spam this thread just because you do not know what the real FF3 is? Doesnt seem too mature to me. Get back on topic.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 08:48:26 PM

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Originally posted by Meiscool
what what what what what! ff3 was for the snes you moron. You say it's an insult to refer to ff3 as 6, but you don;t even know the origin! I, meiscool, am very disapointed in you young man.

YOU are the moron!

ff1,2 and 3 were for the NES
4,5 and 6 were for the SNES

you are merely confusing people whom can tell the difference between the american names and true japanese names!

and If RPGLORD is a moron for knowing more than you....I must be some kind of super ignoramus moron

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 08:48:30 PM

Well, the guy hasn't been on for awhile, and this is helping him by bumping the game topic so yeah.

Here's my input: Star, chocobo knight, sounds cool and would make a pretty great bc if you made her riding the bird.

Secondly, snes stands for super nintedo entertainment system, look it up on google if you have the guts to be proven wrong.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 08:50:29 PM

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Originally posted by Meiscool
Well, the guy hasn't been on for awhile, and this is helping him by bumping the game topic so yeah.

Here's my input: Star, chocobo knight, sounds cool and would make a pretty great bc if you made her riding the bird.

Secondly, snes stands for super nintedo entertainment system, look it up on google if you have the guts to be proven wrong.

...what in the hell are you talking about... -_-''

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 08:55:42 PM

sorry, missed this rediciously post

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Originally posted by Leon_1990

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Originally posted by Meiscool what what what what what! ff3 was for the snes you moron. You say it's an insult to refer to ff3 as 6, but you don;t even know the origin! I, meiscool, am very disapointed in you young man.

YOU are the moron!

ff1,2 and 3 were for the NES
4,5 and 6 were for the SNES

you are merely confusing people whom can tell the difference between the american names and true japanese names!

and If RPGLORD is a moron for knowing more than you....I must be some kind of super ignoramus moron

Ok, 3 and 6 were the same thing, and what company would remake a nes for the snes? second, 4-9 where all ps1 remakes called antholgies (spelling unsure) and ff chronicals (again, unsure) which also included chrono trigger.

Need proof? look below.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 08:58:27 PM

http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/nes/ff3/

one site

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 08:59:37 PM

http://dorando.emuverse.com/html/final-fantasy-3.html

two site

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 09:03:09 PM

alright alright, A: stop telling me to stop spamming when you're righting three times as many posts so far on this as me. Secondly, YOU made it unclear which ff3 you where talking about. Japan, or American. Lastly, meh. I'll acept my lose here, but yes, ff3 is also on the snes.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 09:04:16 PM

A: why dont you LISTEN when he tells you to stop spamming
and B: I MENTIONED THAT IT WAS THE JAPANESE ONE! so did rpglord as a matter of fact.

and NO, ff3 is NOT on the snes.
Use its proper name to avoid confusion!

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 09:07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Leon_1990
A: why dont you LISTEN when he tells you to stop spamming
and B: I MENTIONED THAT IT WAS THE JAPANESE ONE! so did rpglord as a matter of fact

Good lord Leno, you keep talking to me and I am forced to reply, it's only good manors. Stop writing in shout forms. I admit to my loss, I failed to see that you were in fact talking about the japanese ff3, and this will hopfully be the last off topic post i write unless you ask me another series of questions.

As for the answer to question A, read my last post. You'll see it proves ironic and that he's posted way more on this topic then I have.

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 29, 2005, 09:09:00 PM

Well I was trying to be of support.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 09:09:24 PM

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Originally posted by knight_sky

  Leon:

KEWL! sounds like I'm in your game lmao

and btw, please lose the FF world and plot.
In fact, lose the FF game. I know it's tempting, but please m8, Leave the fan games until you have more experience :(
develop your skills until then.

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 29, 2005, 09:10:57 PM

Quote bug? Knight Sky, I am truly sorry about the rubbish that got on here.
EDIT: This is going to have a CMS? Hmm...

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 29, 2005, 09:14:16 PM

Me as well. My apologies that our fight was to be had on your topic. It was clearly just a misunderstanding.

Hey guys (leon and RPG lord) do you think we should delect our posts about the fight so that people that come to read this game don;t get the wrong vibe/feeling?

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 29, 2005, 09:15:29 PM

no, Let it be a reminder to those whom cross over the two titles.
and read my PM, dont reply to it, just read it. It has some information that may help you.

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Post by: blaze_shinigami on August 29, 2005, 10:42:52 PM

maybe you guys should delete all this spam off of knight-sky's game thread.  

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on August 29, 2005, 10:50:32 PM

Indeed. Why the hell would you get in a fight about if FF3 was on SNES or NES????? Leon, when he said that post including "I'll acept my loss here" why would you continue it? He said you had won! Jesus christ...

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 30, 2005, 12:14:42 PM

Done for a bit.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on August 30, 2005, 06:32:32 PM

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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Indeed. Why the hell would you get in a fight about if FF3 was on SNES or NES????? Leon, when he said that post including "I'll acept my loss here" why would you continue it? He said you had won! Jesus christ...

hehe, I like to be sure ^^

and sky_knight, will you be needing any help with this game?

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 30, 2005, 07:08:23 PM

Yeah, that's a question that wasn't yet asked alot here.

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Post by: Osmose on August 30, 2005, 07:40:52 PM

1.There is nothing wrong with making a fan game unless you're so wound up that you freak out if you see the sprite of a character you've seen before. And if you are that wound up, you don't deserve to be playing the game in the first place.
2.The age is a bit low. Raising it might work.
3.Anyone who doesn't want to confuse FF names should put a little j behind the number to confirm which it is.
4.It's not an "insult" to call it by it's "wrong" name. It's confusion.

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Post by: RPG LORD on August 30, 2005, 07:56:51 PM

Osmose, we're already through with that discussion.

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Post by: Osmose on August 31, 2005, 02:29:50 AM

Okay? Read one and two and stop dwelling.

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Post by: kodakumi on August 31, 2005, 02:44:32 AM

i dont mind fan games, there a little bit of a past time.

but no one can make another ff fan game after proff's one.

its suicide!!!  :guns:  :frag:  :para:

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on August 31, 2005, 02:47:41 AM

'Tis a shame he quit his....

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Post by: kodakumi on August 31, 2005, 02:52:01 AM

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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
'Tis a shame he quit his....

yep, tis.

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Post by: Rikushinblade on August 31, 2005, 04:53:01 AM

I just want to see some screen shots already :P

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Post by: kodakumi on August 31, 2005, 11:58:49 AM

fiiine, ddnt have to delete the posts though, just people giving there views.



the game could work IF!!!, you had an awe inspiring story.

2. a custom battle system
3. unique characters.
4. etc... etc...

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Post by: knight_sky on September 03, 2005, 06:48:24 AM

Sorry about me not being here I was working on my forum's I just made it My forum (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Skys_RPG_Forum/index.php?act=idx)

to Leon_1990 yes I need an artise for my game
to the person how said it would be cool if Star was on the bird well on somepart's she will be(I made a charaterset with her on the bird)
To the person who said what the point of SeeD's well the main boss is Dedas leader of Shinra now he is going to bring Ultima Weapon back a live so SeeD's don't have nothing eles to do but try to stop Dedas.
Well I think that all the anwser's for the question's I think.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 03, 2005, 03:27:58 PM

Cool, will star also be riding the chocobo in battle too?

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Post by: knight_sky on September 03, 2005, 07:16:32 PM

No she's not going to be on the chocobo during battle(That would be to hard)

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 03, 2005, 07:25:30 PM

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No she's not going to be on the chocobo during battle(That would be to hard)

I dunno about that. I'm sure you could go to the request line and ask blush man to make you one. If not, will she have a bunch of summon chocobo spells then?

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Post by: Sephiroth12317 on September 04, 2005, 03:31:09 AM

Sounds really cool! Is there a demo yet?

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Post by: knight_sky on September 04, 2005, 04:59:44 AM

Maybe in a weak or two because I want the friste demo to be at lease one hour long and because I still need a battlesprite for Star and Solar(Sky's dad) so yup oh does any know how I can improve my materia system here is what I need to improve:
1.I need someone to tell me how can I have it so I can equip more then one materia(I have as an ***.)
2.If I have so you can only have one materia should I chang the name since it's not realy like materia no more.
3.Inportant Help I need help making a CMS i'm a nobie at making CMS so can anyone help me I'll add you to the game as the one who told me how to make a CMS.
4.I need a new title for my game.
5.should I have it so once you learn the materia you know the magic be heart so you can take off the materia and still have the magic(Would go great if I have it so you only equip one materia)
So can you people help me with this stuff.
Sorry for the bad grammer i'm only 13 and I can't spell :( .

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Post by: wildguy3922 on September 04, 2005, 05:09:18 AM

... _sweat_

Seems like a lot of people here were interested in your game. I think they'll want to help you, I think.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 04, 2005, 06:25:07 PM

Yeah I hope so I need not a lot of halp but in need like 2 more people on my team.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 04, 2005, 07:50:26 PM

Alright, I found on google somewhere something about how to make materia, and it was a really good tutioral (sp?). Sorry that I don't remember the link, but it's got all sorts of stuff. It gives guides to make summons that stay in battle (like FF10) and all sorts of FF things, like magic learning. Everytime you cast a magic spell, it puts a varible up and once that varible is at it's peak, the magic powers up, like in FF2 from Japan. The site was made by a guy named Hector, so include that in your search and it might be more fruitful.

For the CMS, look in the Tutioral section and you'll find something done by younglink that will tell you how to make a CMS

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Post by: knight_sky on September 04, 2005, 11:23:35 PM

Thank's for the information :)

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 04, 2005, 11:40:38 PM

Yep, NP.

Did you find the website made by Hector I told you about? I tried to find it and give you the link but haven't gotten any progress.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 05, 2005, 12:05:15 AM

nope not yet and I want a pic CMS not a teleport CMS my friend said teleport CMS go slow

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Post by: Pythis on September 05, 2005, 12:09:13 AM

If you want I can teach you how to make a CMS(My style) AND an ABS OR a CBS with my knowledge of forks switches and variables it wont be hard nor time consuming. I patched up my own CMS on my own in a mater of minutes.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2005, 12:18:32 AM

Pic CMS are a hell of a lot harder to make. And no, they both go at about the same speed. Here's an example of a custom menu system. I have over 10 paralle events going on at once in this, and it's stills fine.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 05, 2005, 01:08:56 AM

Um what's a ABS I never herd of that?

Pythis yeah can you help me make a CMS.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2005, 01:11:31 AM

ABS is an active battle system, it's like Zelda or secret of Mana.

It's not like ff where you have random battles, but like an action/adventure game where you can walk up and attack something.

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Post by: Pythis on September 05, 2005, 01:16:30 AM

Meiscool, can I have the chip of that menu screen? And the ABS thing looks good but might not be what you want for an FF game. I'll PM you how to start the menu.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2005, 01:17:33 AM

Sure thing, I'll put the set on my game topic.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 05, 2005, 01:50:01 AM

Oh I under stand ABS know thank's I was thinking of making a dot Hack game like that.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2005, 01:53:42 AM

If you're a beginner, I would highly recomend not making an ABS. It's very stressful, and it's all about varibles and math.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 05, 2005, 02:00:25 AM

I'm no beginner if I was how would I have made that materia system all by my self the one that you can equip one materia ok that might not be hard ok it's easy but i'm not a beginner.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2005, 02:14:15 AM

Ok OK, so you're not a beginner, I guess you want to know how to make an ABS then. Well, i could save a whole lot of my time typing to just tell you to read pythis's game pandamonium gate.

In that topic I put in: How to make a spell
                                  How to make a good ABS map
                                  And several things needed for an ABS, like monsters and enemies.

You might have to go back and forth between that one and mine, because on page (three i think) of my game Pact I believe that I answer some questions that he had for me.

That should start you off, oh, and thanks for telling me what a good job I've been doing on my game. It might seem small, but I really do apperciate it.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 05, 2005, 05:43:04 AM

I need help making the CMS system I made the one meiscool told me to do but once I get telported to the menu abd puss esc to get out of the menu it telport's me back to the menu help please?

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 05, 2005, 10:43:45 PM

enn, look over your scripting again. Maybe you put the recall to early or the memorize to late.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 08, 2005, 10:45:05 PM

well I got it working know I need someone to tell me how to make a item CMS and a equip CMS.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 08, 2005, 11:29:45 PM

that really depends on how many weapons you're going to have. If you're only going to have around four or something for each person I can tell you how to do that, but if it's more you'll most likely have to use the default equip screen for that.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 08, 2005, 11:53:04 PM

I'm going to have 7 weapon's for all the charater's is that to much?
And how about the item CMS?

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 09, 2005, 12:21:07 AM

Items would go the same as equiptment.

Here's how your menu should look for your equipt section:

Make something on your main menu that has something with writing the word equipt, then when you click on that have it take you to another map where you select which character to equipt. When that's done, make a different map for each character and lable the seven weapons seperate (you might need pictures of each weapon). If you click on the weapon, you'll change from your current weapon to that weapon if you have it in stock.

In the post above you said you're not new to RPG2K3, so I'm guessing you know how to make all the scripts needed for that.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 09, 2005, 02:19:12 AM

I think I can do that now my next question is how do I have it to show HP and MP on the CMS(I know how but i'm to lazy to do it my way I want to know if there's an easyer way my way is to put a branch that says hero Hp=1 show pic hp=1 and i don't want to do that cause that will take for ever so that's why i'm asking to see if there's an esayer way)

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 09, 2005, 07:31:55 PM

yeah, much easier way.

You'll need to make four scripts, (one for each number) and start with the 1000s place first.

Make a page where if it's above 1000, then it shows a number 1
then another page AFTER that for it's it's above 2000, show number 2
do that for numbers 0-9

then for the 100s place, make a new vairlbe and set it to equal the hp varible you used for the thousands place. have a repeating/looping script that sets it to keep subtracting 1000 from that varible untill it's less then one thousand. Then do the same thing you did with the 1000s place, if I's more then 100 so a 1, 200 show a 2, and so on and so forth.

You need to do that for all four numbers, for all people.

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Post by: knight_sky on September 13, 2005, 03:45:24 AM

Screen Shots!!!!I final got them there here:
Solar(Sky's dad) and Dedas(The main bad guy) going to fight
Ops sorry I put the wrong screen shot
there is still more but there getting up loaded