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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: shadus on October 12, 2005, 09:31:29 PM

Title: Dark Sword,Vowed Sword
Post by: shadus on October 12, 2005, 09:31:29 PM
Ok,I've made up my mind and I'm going to work on this game for now.It's has all FF 4,5,and 6 stuff and nothing else.Thing may be edited though.So here's the story.

Never have the powers of good and evil fight side by side.
But when the sun and moon are part and part they will.
For no choice will they have.

Ok the story is pretty much about two brothers.One's a Holy Knight the other is a Dark Knight.The story starts out with each person haveing to go on a misson.Each one have heard from the other in years.But they meet on there missons and fight.then they end up helping one another.

I need help with stuff on this as well.I need,

Map maker
Music maker
story helper
Battlebackground maker
Other.

If you want to help just tell me and I'll be glad to let you in!
Well what do you think?*Stares at ZKX and others*
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 12, 2005, 09:57:27 PM
Wow. You my friend have talent, not only have you done something that sounds crappier then any other thing on here ever, you have also out done Foret and made three gaming threads in one week's time. I award thye!

(Note, it doesn't sounds THAT awfually bad)
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Post by: shadus on October 12, 2005, 10:02:59 PM
Well realy I've had Ideas for UM for miny weeks.M.A.T. was based of one Idea of haveing a game where the hero is Training to be a mage.So I didn't come up with them in a week.This is just the one I want to work on for now.I know the story is Ceici you call it?But that can be a good thing.Go back to our roots.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 12, 2005, 10:06:30 PM
OMG. You took a pure insult as a compliment..... how?
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Post by: SC3K on October 12, 2005, 10:11:56 PM
Well...The story's awfully...Odd.

It doesn't really seem like it could be any good...Sorry, no offence...

Well, your probably young, and I admire some kid at least trying to do this.
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Post by: shadus on October 12, 2005, 10:20:03 PM
Hey FF1 didn't have a story realy.I mean just cuz somings bad in your mind dosn't make it worst thing ever.Ok,I mean I wanted to make UM frist but one would help with it so I'm working on this now.
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Post by: VulcanRaven336 on October 12, 2005, 10:20:27 PM
Dude I don't get the story at all.
If  you want I can help you with the story a bit, I am trying to master my story-english skills after all!
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Post by: blackskullwarlock on October 12, 2005, 10:26:07 PM
So long that it is not a Final Fantasy Fan Game, it should be fine. I know everything FF4 and 6 and I've ripped a better version of the town chipset. Give credit if you use it.
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Post by: shadus on October 12, 2005, 10:28:28 PM
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Originally posted by VulcanRaven336
Dude I don't get the story at all.
If  you want I can help you with the story a bit, I am trying to master my story-english skills after all!


Sure,I'm going at telling the story in a game but with it come to puting togather I'm not to good at.And thanks BSW.
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Post by: PyroAlchemist on October 12, 2005, 10:48:35 PM
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And thanks BSK


It's actually BSW but meh. You need to give more indepth detail about your story and charas. I mean it doesn't give us much of an idea if you just say two brothers and what they are. More detail.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 12, 2005, 10:52:42 PM
Dur, FF1 was one of the first games for the nintendo! No dip it had no story, you know how hard it was to make the script just for text to appear above people's heads back then!?
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Post by: blackskullwarlock on October 12, 2005, 10:56:08 PM
If you are to use a short version of my nickname, use it correctly. Thanks for correcting him Pyro.

The first Final Fantasy had no story because the engine was new so they relyed on it instead. The creators had no other choices during the years other than improve their storylines. The jump between FF1 and 2 was great so there is always room for improvement.

I say; Go for it and post screenshots. Charas is a lot about images and story ;)
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Post by: shadus on October 12, 2005, 11:21:19 PM
Sorry about that BSW _sweat_ .BSW not BSK :badboy: I got it.
VulcanRaven336 is helping me with the story! :D So it'll sound better.

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My point was that FF1 was a good even though it had no story.
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Post by: dragon11137 on October 13, 2005, 12:00:33 AM
well i gess this seems to be that your a verry big newbie with rm2k3 (use rmxp!!! :badboy: ) but... i will help you do the odd graphic if you ask me to look at my threat "inheritane" in the games to c a sample of my work with rmxp oh and by the way use rmxp :D
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 12:13:04 AM
Sorry but I hate XP.Thanks for wanting to help!I found what The Dark Knight is going to look like.Here's his stats

Name: Kris
Class: Dark Knight
Weapon: Sword,Dark Sword,Axe
Skills: Dark Wave,Litte Black maigc
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Post by: Blazingheart on October 13, 2005, 01:05:10 AM
OMG¡¡¡
Sarcastic mode on:
Good Battle Chara ¬¬
Sarcastic mode off:
Man,U could be a liiiiiiiittleeeeeee more orignal,huh?,before posting nayhting,chek al posts,they will come in handy,believe me
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 01:16:19 AM
If you don't like it then change it your shlfe.But I like.I mean heck!I could use the plan one and not even look for them.I might chage it up a little though.
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Post by: MrMister on October 13, 2005, 01:20:04 AM
FF1 so did have as story!
You had to do crystals n whatnot!
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Post by: barnsalot on October 13, 2005, 01:34:48 AM
Final Fantasy 1 had more storyline than most people realize.

http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/ff1story.shtml
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 03:22:15 AM
I said it had a story,The others didn't.So don't blame me.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on October 13, 2005, 03:42:47 AM
It's bad. It's going to turn out bad, or (and this is just a WILD little guess) it's not gonna turn out at all.
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 03:47:32 AM
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to prove you worng.
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Post by: Pythis on October 13, 2005, 04:01:45 AM
I shed no tears when I say this, you won't finish the game. lest by some slim chance you get better you best quit now, you'll end up with a big fat failure. Quit now, it won't happen. Follow my instructions, overtime you will improve and when the time comes you may be able to make a decent game. But for now you can't and you won't be able to until you learn how to take critisizm the right way. It's meant to point out things that the commenter liked especially or thought needed improvement, most of the time the critisizer is of good judgement but not always. In this case you should take any suggestion you see because I'm almost 95% sure that you haven't even finished the hero.
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 04:23:45 AM
I'm sorry,But I can't do that.If I land on my face so be it!I'll at lese learn from it and come back better.
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Post by: Hell Angel on October 13, 2005, 04:31:33 AM
Well, I think it's alright.

I would play. Good luck on this, Shadus, but do one thing, do NOT make the game have as bad grammar and punctuation as you do, no offence.

If this takes off I guess I might help if I am impressed.
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Post by: SC3K on October 13, 2005, 11:10:27 AM
I never said there was No chance for the game, however, I think you should drop this specific idea and start a new one with improved storyline and ideas.
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Post by: blackskullwarlock on October 13, 2005, 01:09:37 PM
If all you can say is 'It sucks' or 'You won't finish the game', why bother posting? The guy seems determined to work on his game so leave him be and wait until he shows some work before judging. Sheesh.

As far you Shadus, there's a website with many(many) Final Fantasy ressources.  Click Me (http://www.phylomortis.com/)
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 02:11:17 PM
Thank you,BSW!I've been looking for that site.But I have a new security thing and it's very stricked.and HA,I use bad garramer becuse I'm a bad speller and don't want to get the dicanary!But the game will have beater grammer and spelling.
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 02:58:21 PM
Ok I worked on Kris a little.Better no?
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Post by: shadus on October 13, 2005, 03:28:47 PM
I'll give Bio's soon.Here's Zeno,Kris's brother.I know it ain't much but this is just what he looks like at the start of the game.
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Post by: blackskullwarlock on October 13, 2005, 03:50:04 PM
Your recolors aren't all that great but the battlesets are good, they are from FF4, heh. Oh and your welcome for the site ;)

You said you would use FF 4, 5 and 6 materials.....might I advise against using multiple chipset styles? What I mean is, don't create a town using a FF4 chipset and another town using the FF6 chipset. The jump in graphic is rather big you know...

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Post by: dragon11137 on October 13, 2005, 05:27:08 PM
well i would advise you to make your own graphics at least it shows that you'v done alot of work for your game ;)
(oh and use rmxp you can do anything with rmxp even 3D or MMORG)
but anyways goodluck
you'll need it alot..
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on October 13, 2005, 08:01:49 PM
Well, prove me wrong and I will take back everything I said.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 14, 2005, 01:29:00 AM
Gah.
 
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I said it had a story,The others didn't.So don't blame me.


So.... this means that FF1 had a story and the other ones didn't? That's like saying a picture book is a better read then "how to kill a mocking bird". Plus, in a post before that, you said FF1 had no story, so you are contradicting yourself.

Even though your battle chars look like crap, I'll at least award you for doing them yourself and not requesting that some one color them for you.

Yeah. So long as this game keeps you busy from posting on other threads (especially the charas pub) about people dying and crap, I say make it!
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 14, 2005, 01:35:36 AM
But he didn't really make it, just recolored.
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Post by: Pythis on October 14, 2005, 01:57:36 AM
Could help ya' patch up yer' own ABS Shadus. Pends' how I fil' Ask fer' me t'marrow 'll see what I can do.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 14, 2005, 01:59:09 AM
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But he didn't really make it, just recolored.


I know that...... _sweat_
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Post by: shadus on October 15, 2005, 06:11:21 PM
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Originally posted by blackskullwarlock
You said you would use FF 4, 5 and 6 materials.....might I advise against using multiple chipset styles? What I mean is, don't create a town using a FF4 chipset and another town using the FF6 chipset. The jump in graphic is rather big you know...



I've going to use ff6 chip and chara sets,and ff 4,5,6 battle stuff cuz they look alot alike.

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Even though your battle chars look like crap, I'll at least award you for doing them yourself and not requesting that some one color them for you.


I'll take help if you want to give it.
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Post by: Greeny341 on October 15, 2005, 06:16:19 PM
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Hey FF1 didn't have a story realy.I mean just cuz somings bad in your mind dosn't make it worst thing ever.Ok,I mean I wanted to make UM frist but one would help with it so I'm working on this now.


Right there! Kabboom! You did say ff1 didnt have a story!

pwnage.
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Post by: MrMister on October 15, 2005, 06:23:59 PM
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(oh and use rmxp you can do anything with rmxp even 3D or MMORG)


Um, no?
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Post by: shadus on October 15, 2005, 06:24:50 PM
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Originally posted by shadus
Hey FF1 didn't have a story realy.I mean just cuz somings bad in your mind dosn't make it worst thing ever.Ok,I mean I wanted to make UM frist but one would help with it so I'm working on this now.


Right there! Kabboom! You did say ff1 didnt have a story!

pwnage.


Ok lets clear this up.I said it didn't have much of a story.It has a story but it's mostly just running around killing monsters.And I said that YOU other guys said that ff1 said that it didn't have a story.Ok are we clear on that now?If I read someones post wrong I sorry.But you read mine worng to.
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Post by: shadus on October 15, 2005, 08:53:58 PM
VulcanRaven336,Did you get my PM?
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Post by: Bluhman on October 15, 2005, 09:08:15 PM
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Originally posted by dragon11137
(oh and use rmxp you can do anything with rmxp even 3D or MMORG)


Um, no?


Yyyyyyeah.... err... that was KINDA an overstatement, Dragonman.
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Post by: shadus on October 16, 2005, 12:19:33 AM
Sorry  VulcanRaven336 but I've worked on the story alot and can't wait for you to PM me back.But if you want to help with parts of the story later I'd be glad for the help.So here's the story better told.

For 10 years the church and Dark Knights have been at war.Now that the Dark Knights are weak and are in hiding a sword has been found.The sword of a leagendary Paladin who killed miny Dark Knights and gained sainthood.If the church can get the sword they will have the tool to remove the Dark Knights forever.But the Dark Knights also know about the sword and will not easly let the church have it.So the church figering that the Dark Knights will send there whole army to get the sword they send two knight to sneek past the Dark Knight army.At the same time the Dark Knights send two men (well a guy and a girl.) to get the sword frist.There reson for only sending two is they figer that the Church will come and attack them when they send out men so they need as miny men as they can to stay at base.When both sides get to where the sword is they find the other side (Church or Dark Knights) there and end up in battle.The Dark Knights badly beaten two of two the knights Kris and Zeno (One dark and one holy Knights.) finds out they are there long lost brothers.Not caring Ivo the other holy Knight go's ahead a grabs the sword.As soon as he picks it up the cave starts to shake and cave in.Soon Zeno picks up his beaten brother and run out of the cave.Taking the other Dark Knight pisoner they take them back to the church.Seeing that Zeno had helped a Dark Knight the church bands him from Holy Knighthood. :mrT: Random stuff. :cow: . There good?
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Post by: blackskullwarlock on October 16, 2005, 12:30:09 AM
I like the idea of a sword becoming holy after slaying many Dark Knights. Might as well call it 'The Redeemer' or 'The Holy Avenger'. So far so good. Story is fine but Charas love screenshots, heh.
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Post by: Pythis on October 16, 2005, 12:57:35 AM
You could make a good ABS/CBS with that story in tact.  There can be called a sword called the Yin Yang Blade. WHen this b;ade kills its limit of dark or light knights it's abilities and power changes for example, if the Yin Yang blade slays  150 Light Knights it transforms into the Yang blade a sword of Darkness. Its power is stronger than that of the Yin Blade but it lowers Agility. You learn the spells: Eye of the Dark one, Summon Demon, and Blind Rage. For an ABS Eye of the Dark one can lower damage alot but it has a long charge time. For Summon Demon there can be a system called the Name system where you read books to find out the names of demons the more you know about the demon and its name the stronger it will be when you summon it. You must have the demons Chant. For Blind Rage you enter a stage in when your controls are mixed but your power is doubled but you also get shorter charge times for all spells but it weakens these spells slightly.
The coding can look like this:


Fork Opt.(Branch) if Switch Yang Blade is on
Flash Event: Hero(Black)
Move Event: Event001, Change Graphic, Sword
Flash EVent: Event001(Purple)
Move Event: Hero, Begin Jump, End
Message: Yes! I have finally unlocked the power of one hundred fifty light souls!
Sound Effect: (Victory/Fanfare)
Message: You Obtained the Yang Blade!



The switch Yang Blade can be activated when the variable Yin Yang Blade is 150.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: You could probably tint the screen darker and add a few clashes of thinger maybe a lightning bolt to the sword.
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Post by: shadus on October 16, 2005, 08:44:21 PM
Well if I do a CBS it'll be made just to look like a FF 4,5, or 6 in which the DBS looks like any way.And no ABS.Oh and BSW I've been haveing conputer problems at moms and don't want to put RPG maker on my dad's conputter so I have no screen shots yet but I'll put some up as soon as I can.
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Post by: dragon11137 on October 16, 2005, 09:02:24 PM
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(oh and use rmxp you can do anything with rmxp even 3D or MMORG)


Um, no?
um yes with alot of scripting yes you can... someones already done it...

oh and you can also turn off other people computers with 1 line of script in xp :D *evil smile* lol^^
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Post by: SC3K on October 16, 2005, 09:11:41 PM
I think he meant "No" as in "No XP."

And it seems that the story has gotten better, good job. I'm still against how your only using material from Final Fantasy 4, 5, and 6, but either way, Looking forward to some screens.
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Post by: shadus on October 16, 2005, 09:34:53 PM
Thank you.Buts whats so bad with only using FF 4,5, and 6 stuff?
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Post by: SC3K on October 16, 2005, 09:57:36 PM
Well, first of all it's very unoriginal, and unless you have ripping skills, your material is slightly linear.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 16, 2005, 11:32:45 PM
Well, Im more conserned about the fact that FF6's graphics look beatiful, ff4's looks cartoony, and ff5's looks like a rat's ***. That my friend, doesn't make a pretty picture when combined.
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Post by: Hell Angel on October 16, 2005, 11:34:22 PM
A beautiful cartoon of a rat's ***.
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Post by: shadus on October 29, 2005, 05:27:10 AM
Ok well I've don't have a conputer at my moms and I don't want to do at my dad's since I'm only here every 2 weeks.About the FF4,5 and 6 stuff.If you look at FF 4,5 and 6 battle sets they look a lot the same.Also since I'm not good at makeingbattle sets I'll hire people.
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Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 04:59:38 AM
Ok I've been working on charters and have some good ideas.Once I can get a hold with my pal I might be able to get a few screen shots.

Name: Kris
Class: Dark Knight
Weapon: Dark Swords,Swords,Axes
Skill: Dark Sword and little Black Magic

Name: Zeno
Class: Holy Knight,Fighter
Weapon: Holy Sword,Sword
Skill: Holy Sword and little white magic

Name: Izabella Green
Class: Black Mage
Weapon: Staff
Skill: Black Magic

Name: Arch Cid
Class: Thife
Weapon: Dagger
Skill: Steal,Seanky Hand

Name: Jannet
Class: White Mage
Weapon: Staff
Skill: White Magic

Name: Bard Vallatra
Class: Bard
Weapon: Guatar
Skill: Song

Name: Xen Yung
Class :Fire Monk
Weapon: Claw
Skill: KIck,Burn Chi,Burning Kick,Burning Finger

Name: Nobby GemStone
Class: GeoMacer or Engineer
Weapon: Tools
Skill: Terrian Magic or Scan,Bomb

Name: Paggy "Big Mama" Mogson
Class: Moogle
Weapon: Bell
Skill: Moogle Magic,Moogle Heal,Change,Rage