Post by: Drighton on October 24, 2005, 04:56:45 PM
Well, I must say I'm thoroughly confused now, as I've just left Midgar (Disc1) and the plot has thickened. Interested about some of the different aspects of the game (the copy I got from EBGames has no instruction book... and having FMV trouble) I eventually looked deeper into the storyline of FF7. And man is this thing deep.
I'm gonna enjoy this. :D
While I haven't built an opinion on the game yet, I may very well come over to the FF7 group. Though, to be fair, I should replay FF8 (my current pick).
If anything, this will only help me to strive to make a better game.
Post by: WarxePB on October 24, 2005, 05:41:26 PM
And also, you can learn something from every game you play. If it's good, you can say "Well, this idea would work perfectly in my game if I tweaked it a bit", or if it's bad, "Well, they did this and the game was bad, so if I change that, it'll make my plot better".
Post by: Drighton on October 24, 2005, 06:00:16 PM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Why do you think FFVII is such a well-known game? It has a good plot, the graphics (for their time) were awesome, and the materia system is fairly unique (again, for that time).
And also, you can learn something from every game you play. If it's good, you can say "Well, this idea would work perfectly in my game if I tweaked it a bit", or if it's bad, "Well, they did this and the game was bad, so if I change that, it'll make my plot better".
Indeed, my phoenix-blade wielding friend!
But we musn't waste time, for the evil Dr. Bad Plot is at it once again! Quick, to the Airship-mobile! We need to save Mayor Goods McTorry from disaster once again!
(yeah, i was reading a comic)
Post by: Greeny341 on October 24, 2005, 06:15:27 PM
Post by: Razor on October 25, 2005, 05:38:57 AM
Post by: Drighton on October 25, 2005, 02:09:30 PM
I would not say anything bad about FF7, but I just didn't want to play it... Whatever, its justified in my little world.
But I'm enjoying it now. Just got off the boat in Costa de Sol (hey, I have a job and crap. leave me alone) :)
Post by: Almeidaboo on October 25, 2005, 05:27:19 PM
This "I'll not adhere to these fashion things cause I like to be different" is just stupid, cause you miss the best of some things that you may like, but you donīt try cause you think you'll be the cool one...donīt ever do that. The only thing thatīs fashion nowadays that you souldnīt try is drugs. The rest, itīs all experience. Donīt do that to yourself.
Post by: Drighton on October 25, 2005, 05:42:47 PM
On the contrary, I choose nonconformity because I refuse to allow others to dictate to me what is "cool" or "fashionable" or "good", not because I believe it will make me cool. By not conforming to the standards of society, I am thus deemed "uncool".
Post by: Almeidaboo on October 25, 2005, 05:46:38 PM
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lol.
On the contrary, I choose nonconformity because I refuse to allow others to dictate to me what is "cool" or "fashionable" or "good", not because I believe it will make me cool. By not conforming to the standards of society, I am thus deemed "uncool".
Well, that's dumb too...no offense. Cause not everything that is fashionable is bad, or will cause you damage (brain damage, physical damage, whatever damage...). Well, I guess youīll undewrstand what I mean once you beat FF7 (or once you get to a certain fun place of the game...)
Post by: Drighton on October 25, 2005, 06:06:46 PM
I guess it stems from control issues related to... WAIT Why am I justifying myself to you!? :p
Anyways, its hard to explain, but it works out for the best for me.
Post by: Razor on October 26, 2005, 10:22:28 PM
Post by: Oi on October 26, 2005, 10:39:49 PM
Post by: MrMister on October 26, 2005, 10:50:28 PM
Heh.
It's extremely over rated, but it doesn't mean it's a bad game.
I didn't like it because it was right before people realized you could break out of the turn based box of boring standard, half-of-the-game-is-movie misfunnery.
Post by: Drace on October 26, 2005, 10:56:16 PM
Post by: MrMister on October 26, 2005, 11:05:19 PM
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Originally posted by DraceOr punk bands from 1970-2005
Really highly overrated. Like the GTA series.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 26, 2005, 11:08:49 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 26, 2005, 11:33:31 PM
LoD was horrible!!! The game was so predictable! The first 3 disks had a guy after the moon objects, and of course, you were never able to stop him. The the 4th disk had you try to defend 3 thingamagigers, and of course, you were never able to. The graphics were just under FF7s, but it came out at the same time as games with graphics twice as good. I have to say the battle system was one of my favorites, falling just short of Star Ocean: Till the end of time. And some parts of the story were intreging, it was just way to repeditive and predictable. Now if they would have made the game about the original war 11,000 years ago, then I probably would have liked it a lot better.
FF7 was a great game, but no way do I consider it to be the best RPG ever made. The star ocean series as well as the chrono series are a few of the games I have enjoyed more than FF7.
Post by: Drace on October 27, 2005, 12:53:56 AM
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
I always play a game before I make opinions on it. I here people say FF7 sucks and its highly overrated, but I know some of them haven't even played the game from start to finish.
At least three times. Maybe four.
Post by: MrMister on October 27, 2005, 01:20:26 AM
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I always play a game before I make opinions on it. I here people say FF7 sucks and its highly overrated, but I know some of them haven't even played the game from start to finish.
At least three times. Maybe four.
Ridiculous.
You don't have to eat a dung beetle too know it's gross.
I've beaten FF7, and the gameplay really doesn't get any better through out the game.
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on October 27, 2005, 01:37:18 AM
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I can really say, easily say that no RPG made after FF7 is better than FF7. Plotwise, character-wise, production-wise, music-wise, etc (what a bunch of made up terms...i guess). And take the word from a guy thatīs played more RPGs than youīll probably play in your whole life. Itīs an amazing game, enjoy it the best you can. Sad thing is that it'll become the reference to you when judging other RPGs, and that'll ruin em' all...
This "I'll not adhere to these fashion things cause I like to be different" is just stupid, cause you miss the best of some things that you may like, but you donīt try cause you think you'll be the cool one...donīt ever do that. The only thing thatīs fashion nowadays that you souldnīt try is drugs. The rest, itīs all experience. Donīt do that to yourself.
I disagree with thart statement. I've played very Final Fantasy and beaten almost all of them. Final Fantasy IX is far superior to Final Fantasy VII in my opinion. :jumpin:
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on October 27, 2005, 01:40:07 AM
Heh, I'll never forget the time Cid got confused and used a megalixir on Sephiroth. >_<
I'm considering replaying it soon, though. Either that, or work on my RM2k game.
Post by: WingZero on October 27, 2005, 02:08:03 AM
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on October 27, 2005, 02:29:05 AM
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the main faq is FF7 is one of the greatest game ever like it or not it is
You're kidding, right?
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 27, 2005, 02:30:26 AM
Post by: Linkizcool on October 27, 2005, 05:40:11 AM
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Originally posted by Drace
Really highly overrated. Like the GTA series.
GTA is really overrated, and so are most FF games. They're still worth playing, and the music is really well composed (Hats off to Kenji Ito and Nobuo Uematsu)
Post by: Drace on October 27, 2005, 09:19:07 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze
I always play a game before I make opinions on it. I here people say FF7 sucks and its highly overrated, but I know some of them haven't even played the game from start to finish.
At least three times. Maybe four.
Ridiculous.
You don't have to eat a dung beetle too know it's gross.
I've beaten FF7, and the gameplay really doesn't get any better through out the game.
Well I was bored and I didn't have many games or money to buy games back then. And besides, I've finished FFX 2 times, MGS 6 times, MGS2 4 times and MGS3 2 times. There are just some games which I like to play many, many times.
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Final Fantasy IX is far superior to Final Fantasy VII in my opinion.
Agree'D.
Post by: Ryos4 on October 27, 2005, 09:58:02 AM
I think ff7 was a pretty good game. Mostly for the story and characters, and all the rumors surrounding this game, made it so popular. The fact that square soft allegedly removed a few things made room for alot of rumors around the resurrection of Aeris. Like how they supposidly move Aeris death ahead how they still had non generic dialoge in certian areas for Aeris, one being after the snowboarding. Also the discussion of the last boss, y there is 2 teams of 3 and one team of 2, which if you think about it really isn't that hard to figure out (Yuffie and Vincent are secret characters). The cave that cant be explored but is clearly visible near the city of ancients, supposidly contained power material or strong equips. And the letter to daughter and wife that can be obtained with gameshark, supposidly letters from dyne to marline, and to Aeris's mother from her husband. One other thing was the empty treasurechest under the gold saucer area, which was supposidly for a japanese only secret monster trick. And lastly the random items you get throughout the game. The custom sweeper (supposidly to fix the tiny bronco, says some rumors), 1/35 or w/e it was of a soldier & masamune blade (supposidly to make a sep clone), and the tissues (supposidly if you give 99 to the crying woman in Mideel is suppose to either ressurect Aeris or play a part in ressurecting her).
I feel these types of rumors and things is what made FF7 what it is today. Square soft just stumbled on a gold mine if you ask me. lol. Even if they make spin offs like the two they made, they arnt gonna be as popular as ff7. Due to the fact that they barley (Vincent and Cait Sith, 2 of the least favorite characters, even though vincent is quite popular, not as much as the rest of the cast) or dont even include the original cast (which is what most ff7 fans would like). And will probably not have as much random crap thrown into it like ff7. Its probably gonna turn into another ffX2, which in itself was an okay game, it really didnt have any connection to ffx that most of the fans would have wanted, besides the cameos and land scapes. Though they did use 2 of the most popular characters and successfully add a new character to the mix. Making it an all girl cast. Which attracted both female and male players (for obvious reasons). But most of all was the inventive game play, class changing mid battle, which seem to be taboo in all of the previous ff games. Im going to stop now before this becomes a novel.
Though gameplay wise i rather play srpgs like fftactics, or games in the "tales" or star ocean series. More active then just standing there and taking hits, and given em back. And in the regular rpg style i find bof3 to be better then ff7.
For some reason or another i find secret of mana to be better then alot of the ps1 games even though it was somewhat glitchy.
Post by: Razor on October 27, 2005, 01:01:50 PM
Post by: Drighton on October 27, 2005, 01:38:54 PM
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or dont even include the original cast
If you watch the trailer for DoC (see the DoC thread for link) there are some of those scenes that flash by (like how they do in movie trailers) that show Cid and Barret. Unless you were referring to the fact that these character aren't playable (at least I think).
Post by: Almeidaboo on October 27, 2005, 05:40:10 PM
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
I always play a game before I make opinions on it. I here people say FF7 sucks and its highly overrated, but I know some of them haven't even played the game from start to finish. A lot of gaming opinions are just pure bias as well. Anyway, that being said...
LoD was horrible!!! The game was so predictable! The first 3 disks had a guy after the moon objects, and of course, you were never able to stop him. The the 4th disk had you try to defend 3 thingamagigers, and of course, you were never able to. The graphics were just under FF7s, but it came out at the same time as games with graphics twice as good. I have to say the battle system was one of my favorites, falling just short of Star Ocean: Till the end of time. And some parts of the story were intreging, it was just way to repeditive and predictable. Now if they would have made the game about the original war 11,000 years ago, then I probably would have liked it a lot better.
FF7 was a great game, but no way do I consider it to be the best RPG ever made. The star ocean series as well as the chrono series are a few of the games I have enjoyed more than FF7.
Agreed with the LoD thing...it SUCKED. Dart looks ridiculous. And that girlie I forgot the name is pathetic...
FF7 is the greatest of all...
Post by: Oi on October 27, 2005, 09:04:01 PM
Post by: Razor on October 27, 2005, 09:41:09 PM
Of course, there ARE people who have played it when it first came out before it was popular and think it sucked anyway.
Post by: Almeidaboo on October 27, 2005, 10:41:12 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
Most of the people who say FF7 sucked usually victims of hype, people who played it thinking it would suck, or are ghrapic whores.
Of course, there ARE people who have played it when it first came out before it was popular and think it sucked anyway.
:bend:awesome!
Post by: Oi on October 27, 2005, 10:57:24 PM
Post by: Razor on October 27, 2005, 11:02:05 PM
Victim of hype.
Post by: Oi on October 27, 2005, 11:05:05 PM
Post by: Grandy on October 27, 2005, 11:15:25 PM
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can really say, easily say that no RPG made after FF7 is better than FF7
For the sake of your teeth I hope Suikoden was made before FF7.
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Guess what? I cant see tha pic FF7 doesnt interest me. You can't make me like it. It is impossible.
And again we go: Have you ever played it?
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Final Fantasy IX is far superior to Final Fantasy VII in my opinion.
Almost, almost.
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Final Fantasy IX is [STRIKE]far[/STRIKE] superior to Final Fantasy VII in my opinion.
Better. FF9 was better than FF7, but FF7 is a pretty good game indeed.
Post by: Oi on October 27, 2005, 11:26:41 PM
Guess what? I cant see tha pic FF7 doesnt interest me. You can't make me like it. It is impossible.
And again we go: Have you ever played it?
Yes, I beat it once. Then I watched my friend beat it. It interested me a bit, but then I thought really hard. Then I just dont like it.
Post by: MrMister on October 28, 2005, 02:31:35 AM
Square Enix sucks so much and they should die, Squaresoft has made like three good games.
And Enix has sucked after Lufia 2.
They combined and made supershit.
And yet Square Enix gets attention++.
The only company that actually churns out strings of good gameness is Natsume.
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 28, 2005, 05:00:38 AM
In reality though there can be no fact that a game is good or bad. It's all just someones opinion, and some people just have differant tastes in games. Its pointless to try to convince people to like FF7 when they have their mind set to hate it. Then of course theres the people with bias opinions and just say they like/hate the game because its like/not like another game, because it belongs to a popular series, or because of what their friends think.
I played through FF7 for a second time a few months ago so I would have the game fresh in my mind when I saw FF7: AC, and I would have to say its not as good as I throught it was. The story was a bit two sided, on one hand it was cliche following sephy everywhere, but on they other hand, it was intreging about whats happening with Cloud, and the ancients and stuff like that. The graphics sucked compared to modern games, but were good back then. The combat system seemed very slow compared to SO3's (which I just finished playing at the time).
There were a lot of iffy things in the game. It all depends on what you pull out if you like it or not.
Post by: Razor on October 28, 2005, 05:52:29 AM
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Guess what? I cant see tha pic :) FF7 doesnt interest me. You can't make me like it. It is impossible.
We're not trying to make you. Hell, no-one really cares.
I'm just classifying you under the category of haterofFF7. Also, the picture was the thumbsdown from Charas.
Post by: Drace on October 28, 2005, 09:40:01 AM
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FF9 is my favorite FF, I don't really like any of the others.
Heh. About the same. Only, I liked 10 and 8 too. Though, 10 pulls some really sucky plot-twists.
"Tidus, you're a dream."
"Does that mean I can't **** Yuna or Rikku?"
Post by: Almeidaboo on October 28, 2005, 10:38:56 AM
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Originally posted by Grandy
quote: can really say, easily say that no RPG made after FF7 is better than FF7
For the sake of your teeth I hope Suikoden was made before FF7.
quote: Guess what? I cant see tha pic FF7 doesnt interest me. You can't make me like it. It is impossible.
And again we go: Have you ever played it?
quote: Final Fantasy IX is far superior to Final Fantasy VII in my opinion.
Almost, almost.
quote: Final Fantasy IX is farsuperior to Final Fantasy VII in my opinion.
Better. FF9 was better than FF7, but FF7 is a pretty good game indeed.
Yeah dude, suikoden was made before, but itīs still not better than FF&, IMO itīs a tie...
Post by: Drighton on October 28, 2005, 03:34:03 PM
Lol, just kidding. I'm enjoying it so far. Is there a way to make the enemy wait while you figure out what your doing? I can't stand it when the enemy kills of my guy before I have a chance to navigate through the menu to get to my items. :|
On another note, my current part consists of Cloud, Red XIII, and Vincent (i always liked the way he looked. :p) I'm considering training Cid as a Red replacement or backup. For those who have played, whats your all-star lineup?
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 28, 2005, 04:07:23 PM
You want Cid and Cloud to be two of your party members. They have the best level 4 limit breaks (multiple attacks). The other members basically just have one powerfull hit that can take away 9999 hp. If you train your characters right, your regular attacks will take away 9999 x 4, so using the others limit breaks can be somewhat pointless.
On a side note, you may want to use Cait Sith. His final limit break is Slots, and it has a chance of killing ANY enemy instantly. I was lucky enough to get it while I fought the ruby weapon, but then the game froze...
My lineup was Cloud, Cid, and Vincent. I set up Flash on Vincent so he could kill half the enemies in one hit. Most of the time though I just had him as my magic person.
Post by: Dragonium on October 28, 2005, 04:38:44 PM
I am aware that someone, probably Razor, will now say something along the lines of "You sir, are a fool".
The controls bothered me.
But the game has a lot going for it. The maps are some of the best I've seen, even surpassing FF8, which is my favourite FF to date. The characters are also excellent. And so on.
As to hype, I find that many un-hyped games are better than some severely hyped ones. I'm currently playing Shining Soul II. I'd never heard of this game prior to buying it. In fact, I went into the shop for FE : tSS, but I definitely wasn't disappointed. The game is fun and addictive, if a little clichéd and lacking in mini-games. But still, for a tenner, it ain't bad. :)
BTW, has anyone noticed that the dialogue in Enix games is very slangy and casual? Or is it just me?
Post by: Drace on October 28, 2005, 06:17:00 PM
Post by: SaiKar on October 28, 2005, 07:01:25 PM
I played FF7 all the way through once. I never owned a PlayStation so I played it on a friend's. It was okay. I can understand the hype. Despite being dated, the graphics are aeons above anything that had been previously seen in RPGs. The Materia system is also pretty interesting. And it's modern, which I really didn't care for, but some parts were done very well (i.e. the entire opening in Midgar.)
I really disliked the entire cast though. Cloud is a psycopathic liar. Sephiroth is a self-dillusional maniac. Aeris is so sweet as to be totally unbelievable. Barret REALLY cares about the Planet, which is why he swears constantly around anyone, including small children. Yuffie and Vincent got so little screentime as to not be worth mentioning. Red XIII is the typical very boring nonhuman that has a connection with the earth. Tifa actually had some potential, having a touching past with Cloud, but let's face it, she's a whore. The only one I didn't DISLIKE was Cid, who wanted to go into space, couldn't, and was bitter about it. Pretty realistic guy. Very unimportant to the plot though.
The last half of the plot made no sense at all. Come to think of it, the first half was pretty sketchy too. Who Sephiroth is and how he's going to acomplish what he wants to do is needlessly drawn out and absurd. In the second half SHINRA comes up with a plan to save the world. 1) blow up the Meteor with a rocket. 2) shoot off Sephiroth's dome with a big laser. For reasons that STILL BOGGLE ME, Cloud's party disables the rocket that's going to impact the meteor. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS?! They went after the laser too, but SHINRA was smart enough to see them coming and fire it before they could get there.
Bottom line, I didn't like the story and I didn't like the cast. Some of the minigames were pretty fun though. It's not a game I would have called a classic, but I'm not a rampaging mob of fanboys, so oh well.
Post by: Drighton on October 28, 2005, 07:18:24 PM
:p Its okay, I'm following a walkthrough, since I don't have hours on end to spend figuring out what I need to do and where I need to go and how to beat boss X.
I would actually consider using a cheat for invulnerability, cause I'm really only interested in the story and how it develops (that seems to be the game's biggest quality) rather than playing through all the little, ,tedious, random battles spread out all over the place that make a 10 second task (go across room, flip switch, go to other side where door just opened) turn into a 10 minute task.
Post by: Dragonium on October 28, 2005, 07:19:35 PM
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The last half of the plot made no sense at all. Come to think of it, the first half was pretty sketchy too. Who Sephiroth is and how he's going to acomplish what he wants to do is needlessly drawn out and absurd. In the second half SHINRA comes up with a plan to save the world. 1) blow up the Meteor with a rocket. 2) shoot off Sephiroth's dome with a big laser. For reasons that STILL BOGGLE ME, Cloud's party disables the rocket that's going to impact the meteor. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS?! They went after the laser too, but SHINRA was smart enough to see them coming and fire it before they could get there.
I can't remember a part of the plot I understood fully. So, Cloud has to go through a village and run across a snowfield for some reason. And then he decides to snowboard down a hill and jump off a big ramp. And then he wades across Ice Floes and collapses. Then some guy picks him up. And then he decides to climb a mountain.
And then Dragonium turns off the PlayStation and goes for a cuppa.
Seriously, the fact that Cloud is on Anabolic Steroids and Prozac does not hide the fact that that quarter of the game has NO discernable plot whatsoever.
Meh, SaiKar-Aftershock-Rant over.
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 28, 2005, 07:23:11 PM
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The last half of the plot made no sense at all. Come to think of it, the first half was pretty sketchy too. Who Sephiroth is and how he's going to acomplish what he wants to do is needlessly drawn out and absurd. In the second half SHINRA comes up with a plan to save the world. 1) blow up the Meteor with a rocket. 2) shoot off Sephiroth's dome with a big laser. For reasons that STILL BOGGLE ME, Cloud's party disables the rocket that's going to impact the meteor. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS?! They went after the laser too, but SHINRA was smart enough to see them coming and fire it before they could get there.
First off, they wanted to stop the rocket because it had the HUGE materia, which was very valueable, and could possibly help them. Besides, they didn't think it would work anyway. Second, they didn't try to stop the lazer, they tried to stop Hojo who was overloading it, Hojo was also trying to help seph because he had hand in creating him.
The whole idea of following seph around I thought was boing, but his actual plan was simply brilliant (in my opinion). All bad guys are pshycopaths, some have no reason what-so-ever for being that way, but seph kinda did. He wasn't always a bad guy, though I think he really over-reacted...
Post by: Drace on October 28, 2005, 07:52:47 PM
My opinion, I prefer Kuja and Seymour over Sephiroth every day.
Kuja, well, how many bad GUYS wear a thonge?
And Seymour, he was just brilliantly phycopathic. "To save the world, Í'll become Sin and destroy it all! *evil laugh*"
Post by: Dragonium on October 28, 2005, 08:07:32 PM
Post by: SaiKar on October 28, 2005, 09:05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
My opinion, I prefer Kuja and Seymour over Sephiroth every day.
Kuja, well, how many bad GUYS wear a thonge?
My friend, upon playing FFIX for the first time, was convinced that Kuja was a pretty hot chick. He was fairly alarmed to find out that he was a guy. Even the characters in the game make fun of Kuja's girly face. It's pretty awesome.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on October 28, 2005, 09:16:35 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Drace
My opinion, I prefer Kuja and Seymour over Sephiroth every day.
Kuja, well, how many bad GUYS wear a thonge?
My friend, upon playing FFIX for the first time, was convinced that Kuja was a pretty hot chick. He was fairly alarmed to find out that he was a guy. Even the characters in the game make fun of Kuja's girly face. It's pretty awesome.
XD I did the EXACT same thing! Ah yes, Kuja. Uber Kuja wasn't as cool, but that dragon he had was XD
Post by: Drace on October 28, 2005, 09:45:42 PM
Post by: MrMister on October 28, 2005, 11:16:17 PM
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but his actual plan was brilliant
Yeah, and entirely NOT FUCKING GOLDENEYE AT ALL
Post by: Razor on October 29, 2005, 05:30:11 AM
And I only said that because you said I'd say that, so I said it.
TIME PARADOX!
But yeah, you're alright.
Post by: blaze_shinigami on October 29, 2005, 05:35:33 AM
I have played every FF except 3, the one with the onion kids/knights something, and XI, because I've become poor, lol.
I liked 4 & 6 & 7 the most, I think.
FF7 is good. I got for my 12th or 11th birthay, maybe 13th. I liked the materia system, but it was like a step down from the esper & relic system, if you think about it.
I loved the limit break system, but I wish you could do them that easy in 6, i've only seen Terra's limit break, if I remember right.
The motorcycle minigame was my favorite and then the snowboarding one.
I beat 7 twice, and then a third time with the gameshark for fun.
I don't think 7 had anything wrong with it.
Sephiroth was cool, and at time I know everyone liked how strong he was in the battles in the flashback. I kept trying to get him in debug mode using the gameshark, never worked for me.
Seymour wasn't all that great to me. I don't know why. beating him was really easy, too.
Kuja looked cool. I didn't fight him, so i can't say anything more, but my mom took him out so easily it was even funny. but hey, she's great.
I'm gonna say the mass of monsters on the way up to fighting Kefka was a hard fight. but in a sense the weapons from 7 the 3 gods on 6 kind of were the same.
I don't really think the 12 games (1-10-2 & 11) were meant to be compared.
Post by: DragonBlaze on October 29, 2005, 05:37:46 AM
I'm really picky about final bosses in a game, seph is one of the few I actually liked. Even bosses from my my favorite series Star Ocean, Chrono, and Breath of Fire didn't have bosses that could compare.
Plus, you can't beat seph's sword. I was even thinking about buying a replica of it (as well as a buster sword), but I never got around to it :(
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Post by: DragonBlaze on October 29, 2005, 06:43:20 AM
What do you mean about 'battle thingy'?
Post by: shadus on October 29, 2005, 06:49:49 AM
Post by: Drighton on October 29, 2005, 02:06:17 PM
FF7 is a nice story, the characters are very well developed, but I feel like I'm just doing busy work and, yes, following Sephiroth around.
Town A: We have to find sepheroth. *go to nearest town*
Town B, NPC1: You just missed a guy in a black cape. He went THAT-A-WAY *points to Town C*
Town C, Inn NPC: Yeah, I saw a guy with a black cape. You just missed him. He went to TOWN D saying something about REUNION.
Post by: SaiKar on October 29, 2005, 02:24:11 PM
About final bosses: Lavos > all.
Post by: Drighton on October 29, 2005, 03:32:58 PM
Cloud's Sword (http://www.geocities.com/llvllerlin/240098jc.jpg)
Post by: Almeidaboo on October 29, 2005, 03:35:40 PM
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Originally posted by SaiKar
Ranting and spoilers, so Drighton might not want to read this.
I played FF7 all the way through once. I never owned a PlayStation so I played it on a friend's. It was okay. I can understand the hype. Despite being dated, the graphics are aeons above anything that had been previously seen in RPGs. The Materia system is also pretty interesting. And it's modern, which I really didn't care for, but some parts were done very well (i.e. the entire opening in Midgar.)
I really disliked the entire cast though. Cloud is a psycopathic liar. Sephiroth is a self-dillusional maniac. Aeris is so sweet as to be totally unbelievable. Barret REALLY cares about the Planet, which is why he swears constantly around anyone, including small children. Yuffie and Vincent got so little screentime as to not be worth mentioning. Red XIII is the typical very boring nonhuman that has a connection with the earth. Tifa actually had some potential, having a touching past with Cloud, but let's face it, she's a whore. The only one I didn't DISLIKE was Cid, who wanted to go into space, couldn't, and was bitter about it. Pretty realistic guy. Very unimportant to the plot though.
The last half of the plot made no sense at all. Come to think of it, the first half was pretty sketchy too. Who Sephiroth is and how he's going to acomplish what he wants to do is needlessly drawn out and absurd. In the second half SHINRA comes up with a plan to save the world. 1) blow up the Meteor with a rocket. 2) shoot off Sephiroth's dome with a big laser. For reasons that STILL BOGGLE ME, Cloud's party disables the rocket that's going to impact the meteor. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS?! They went after the laser too, but SHINRA was smart enough to see them coming and fire it before they could get there.
Bottom line, I didn't like the story and I didn't like the cast. Some of the minigames were pretty fun though. It's not a game I would have called a classic, but I'm not a rampaging mob of fanboys, so oh well.
Well, this pretty much shows that you have to play it again, cause either you donīt remember a thing about it, or you didnīt understand the game.
Post by: Dragonium on October 29, 2005, 04:04:51 PM
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Seymour wasn't all that great to me. I don't know why. beating him was really easy, too.
The first too battles were easy for me, and the one with Seymour Flux was a big step up. I didn't really mind, but it made him unbalanced when one minute he was easy and the next he is impossibly hard.
Post by: Razor on October 30, 2005, 09:28:03 AM
And then again, and again, and again.
I decided maybe it was the time to level up.
Post by: DarkFlood2 on November 05, 2005, 08:46:57 PM
I was too lazy to kill the weapons though...
FF8 was my first and favorite (before I got 7) but they just kinda spring ultimecia on you... Still fun yet horrendousley easy.
FFX-2... *shakes head* you dissapoint me SE never make another sequel as long as you live!
FF3 (the real one) I think was one of the best too.
FF9 I liked... but after playing about 30 minutes I'd get tired and search for a save point. Then come back a week later.
I hope FF12 will be good
Strongest stroy: FFT
Replay Value: FF7
Worst: FFX-2
Post by: RPG LORD on November 05, 2005, 09:16:34 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by SaiKar
Ranting and spoilers, so Drighton might not want to read this.
I played FF7 all the way through once. I never owned a PlayStation so I played it on a friend's. It was okay. I can understand the hype. Despite being dated, the graphics are aeons above anything that had been previously seen in RPGs. The Materia system is also pretty interesting. And it's modern, which I really didn't care for, but some parts were done very well (i.e. the entire opening in Midgar.)
I really disliked the entire cast though. Cloud is a psycopathic liar. Sephiroth is a self-dillusional maniac. Aeris is so sweet as to be totally unbelievable. Barret REALLY cares about the Planet, which is why he swears constantly around anyone, including small children. Yuffie and Vincent got so little screentime as to not be worth mentioning. Red XIII is the typical very boring nonhuman that has a connection with the earth. Tifa actually had some potential, having a touching past with Cloud, but let's face it, she's a whore. The only one I didn't DISLIKE was Cid, who wanted to go into space, couldn't, and was bitter about it. Pretty realistic guy. Very unimportant to the plot though.
The last half of the plot made no sense at all. Come to think of it, the first half was pretty sketchy too. Who Sephiroth is and how he's going to acomplish what he wants to do is needlessly drawn out and absurd. In the second half SHINRA comes up with a plan to save the world. 1) blow up the Meteor with a rocket. 2) shoot off Sephiroth's dome with a big laser. For reasons that STILL BOGGLE ME, Cloud's party disables the rocket that's going to impact the meteor. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS?! They went after the laser too, but SHINRA was smart enough to see them coming and fire it before they could get there.
Bottom line, I didn't like the story and I didn't like the cast. Some of the minigames were pretty fun though. It's not a game I would have called a classic, but I'm not a rampaging mob of fanboys, so oh well.
Well, this pretty much shows that you have to play it again, cause either you donīt remember a thing about it, or you didnīt understand the game.
So true, I need to get to know FF7 so much better. Just beating down Sephiroth's spirit isn't enough.. Still More Fighting doesn't really attract me to it though..
Post by: Drace on November 06, 2005, 02:33:19 AM
Post by: DarkFlood2 on November 06, 2005, 03:07:24 AM
2:Changed victory fanfare
3:What the heck was brother doing the whole time?!
4:They ruined blitzball
5:I thought the story was rather weak and SE was just trying to score an easy dollar.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I like dark and sinister games. I hate these games where everyone is happy all of the time.. I crave that sense of depression and "Oh my god! W'ell never make it out alive!"
I could goto any game store and see about 10 copies of FFX-2 on their used shef.
Post by: Drace on November 06, 2005, 05:09:37 PM
That's why I got Burnout 3, Budokai 3 and.... no wait. The rest are neutral.
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 07, 2005, 07:50:52 PM
Best Character: Squall x Cloud -> impossible to decide
Best Story: 7
Hottest Girl: Tifa
Best System: 7 or 10 (the grid thing)
Funniest character: Vash, from trigun....I mean Vincent Valentine...I mean, I dunno man...
Best CID appearance: FF8, as Robin Williams
Best Music: Iīll have to say FF6.
Best weapon: Buster Sword or Gunblade: the question that'll kill me (other than Sai' kar's real sex...)
Well, thatīs it, FF7's the best...IMO of course...
Post by: blaman on November 07, 2005, 11:45:26 PM
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Best CID appearance:
LOL!! They have used him over and over. (Recalling from my horrible memory...) He's in so many of them.
I have FF 1&2 for the GBA and I'm stuck. LOL!
I've played up to 7 though. (Including Mystic Quest but not Tactics.)
BTW: Was FF Advent Children any good? I haven't seen it. (Or is it even out yet?)
Post by: Razor on November 08, 2005, 01:32:52 AM
Because he's named after one of the producers or something.
Post by: SaiKar on November 08, 2005, 03:33:03 AM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Best weapon: Buster Sword or Gunblade: the question that'll kill me (other than Sai' kar's real sex...)
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If I didn't disagree with your answer to every other question I'd probably be more annoyed.
Post by: Drace on November 08, 2005, 06:01:15 AM
And the funniest is... Zidane.
Zidane: *touches Garnet's **** "Oh, soft."
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 08, 2005, 03:14:59 PM
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Originally posted by SaiKar
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Best weapon: Buster Sword or Gunblade: the question that'll kill me (other than Sai' kar's real sex...)
...
If I didn't disagree with your answer to every other question I'd probably be more annoyed.
LOL, sorry 'bout that Sai...but thatīs been a joke for so long now, I couldnīt be the one to drop it...