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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Moosetroop11 on October 31, 2005, 08:46:22 PM

Title: Guitars
Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 31, 2005, 08:46:22 PM
I have some money and have decided I want a new guitar. I'm a rythm guitarrist, but do some lead too so I need a kinda all round guitar, plus it can't be too expensive. What do you recommend?
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Post by: Drace on October 31, 2005, 09:22:58 PM
Well I would help you if I could, but I'm very new to that area. PM Asakura or Carmen, they seem to know what they're talking about.
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Post by: MrMister on October 31, 2005, 09:27:10 PM
My first guitar was an Ibanez GRG170DX.
It's awesomeness at it's best.
It cost me... $230 CDN
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on October 31, 2005, 11:36:21 PM
And Ibanez is probably your best bet for learning. Don't get a squire, no matter what you hear. Ibanez's shittiest guitar is better than the best squire around. Also, dont get a BC Rich Warlock, and if you feel like you must for some reason, don't get the starter set, I've heard bad things about it. And down the line, make sure you never use the Zakk Wylde strings.. they have a high tendancy to break.
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Post by: MrMister on November 01, 2005, 12:18:13 AM
Don't get any BC Rich guitar.
THEY ARE SO FREAKIN UGLY AND BAD.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on November 01, 2005, 01:34:55 AM
Meh.. Neal Moser is cool.
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Post by: carmen on November 02, 2005, 06:28:54 AM
well 90% of BC rich guitars suck.  If you find the right one, they compete with any gibson/fender. I personally own an 12 string Ovation and a BC rich Bich. In order to get a good BC rich you'll need some good cash. I don't suggest getting any new ones.  If you have NEVER played guitar, get an acoustic, cheap guitar, that'll take alota damage and mistakes. That way, when you're ready to move to that step to sound better, you have the money and the know how to do so. Get a free one if you can.

BUT if you have played and just wanna go electric, I strongly suggest The BC rich  Bich, Mockingbird, and the Seagull.

I also suggest schecters and ibanez.

DO NOT get a gibson/epiphone
DO NOT get a fender.
they will rob you with their "laminated maple" a.k.a plywood.

plywood=bad...it doesn't age like real wood, and it doesn't sound nearly as good, its shitty basically.


what it comes down to is what you're most comfortable with.
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Post by: maxine on November 02, 2005, 09:01:44 AM
not to get you off the line but if i where you i would buy a new ampilfier.. But ok lets say you have a good one. Then i would follow asakurahao. My advice.
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Post by: carmen on November 02, 2005, 02:28:32 PM
I have the best practice amp ever. The 30w VOX with valvetronix technology. It's loaded with pre-effects that are awesome to practice with. iT's not an amp you want to go over drums, but it's nice. The thing about it is it will have the quality of a turned up amp, but it can be low. Vox, trust me, it's cheaper then the marshall, and loaded with pre-effects to mess with and edit. Or you can bypass them all and just have a solid amp

it's great for a guitarist who wants practice, but wants tons of variety.

EDIT: If you can't afford any of this, (i dunno how much you have saved) go for a cheap ibanez and 15w line 6 amp. Thats a few hundred cheaper then what I had for you.

As for strings, Go for ELixir, which are coated and have long lasting tone, or martin.
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Post by: carmen on November 02, 2005, 02:51:49 PM


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/GothicWeirdo/VOX-AD30VT111111.png

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Post by: maxine on November 02, 2005, 05:28:24 PM
ooooooooooh Carmen niice amp. Hey just an wierdo question but do you guys have "Compressor" on when you play. I use that sound to get the real rocky sound. And "delay" aswell so the sound makes that special echo.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on November 03, 2005, 12:01:39 AM
My first amp was a Peavey 10w.. bought it for 10 bucks from a friend.

Tell you what, get a Vai Signature JEM7V, a Krank amp (no less than 100w), Dimebag Wah, and definatly some reverb and delay pedals. That's my wishlist anyways...
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Post by: Shady Ultima on November 03, 2005, 12:04:01 AM
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Originally posted by carmen
DO NOT get a gibson/epiphone
    DO NOT get a fender.
they will rob you with their "laminated maple" a.k.a plywood.

plywood=bad...it doesn't age like real wood, and it doesn't sound nearly as good, its shitty basically.


I'm sorry carmen, but as a fellow musician I am forced to disagree with you. I have heard Bich's and from my point of view, they do not stand up to the sound of a Gibson Les Paul.

In my opinion, Gibson Les Pauls are fantastic sounding guitars for both lead and rhythm. If you don't do a lot of lead, then a Fender Strat is your next best bet. These two guitars are also known for easy playability, as opposed to BC Rich's, where the weird body shape can make soloing somewhat difficult.

Also, if you like the look of Gibson / Fenders, make sure to get the real models. Do NOT get epiphone or Squier. They are horrible guitars, only made for beginners.

(this is the opinion of a bassist/guitarist)
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Post by: MrMister on November 03, 2005, 12:05:24 AM
I just bought a Valvetronix..
I absolutely hate the look of teh Bich.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 03, 2005, 04:59:58 PM
For those who asked, I already play the electric and have done for a while on a Wilson. I just know shockingly little about buying them and wanted another one. And I've played the acoustic for years.

Cheers for the advice.
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Post by: charaman on November 04, 2005, 01:23:29 AM
If your doing rhythm, make sure it has at least one humbucker. I think they make a much better sound from strumming than single coil do.
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Post by: carmen on November 04, 2005, 06:27:49 AM
mer, my Bich is not a new one, it's better then any new LP out there. So you may have heard the bich, but not a USA made one. The vintage LPs on the otherhand....thats a diff story, they're well made guitars. but unless you have that extra 1-2k on you...don't go for an LP.

actually the shape is not difficult at all, it's like a round, but with a cut. so...it's actually LESS in the way. This does effect tone though. Besides...what are you soloing on a humbucker anyway?  If you're a soloist, by all means get a decent strat, or a burns. There's more tone difference in single coil pickups.  

There are good epiphones...just they cost alota money. Like the lennon limited edition casino.<3


It's true though, there's a best guitar for everyone out there. Even though I know for a fact many new gibsons are fitted with plywood bodies. So at least with your new NJ bich, you have solid wood and a thru neck, not one thats binded on. Plus the stock pickups in gibsons/epis suck, you HAVE to get them replaced to play at a decent tone, otherwise you're stuck with a muddy almost tone. But hey...like I said, theres a best guitar for everyone.
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Post by: Linkizcool on November 05, 2005, 07:15:16 PM
Fender guitars are ok if you want to learn on them. I think that getting a custom made guitar is probably the best, just go to your local music store and giev them the specs and theyll make it for you.
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Post by: Shady Ultima on November 12, 2005, 03:10:51 AM
^ Not many people have that kind of money to throw around.

Better idea - buy a really cheap used guitar, not a shitty guitar mind you, a decent quality one, and fix it up. I only recommend doing this if you are somewhat experienced with the technical works of guitars. For example, I am building a bass from a 1970's Fender Jazz knockoff. It sounded fantastic before, although it was in terrible condition. I am rebuilding it essentially from scratch, only using the neck and body.
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Post by: Linkizcool on November 12, 2005, 06:58:39 AM
Better yet, if you have access to a woodworking shop, make your own! Theres lots of resources on google about electric guitar making. As for amps, try www.guitarfx.net. Freeware (my favourite word) effects program, works just like an amp, booster and stompbox all in one!
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Post by: Seth Mitchell on November 14, 2005, 07:08:24 AM
Look, dude if you wanna get a good guitar for an ok price and u wanna play rhythm and lead then get a PRS .  I dont personaly on one i have a Gibson Les Paul Gold top standard and a Gibson Sg Standard worn cherry
 
but my guitars were expensive.

A prs is a lower cost guitar and it sounds amazing i previosly owneda prs soapbar1  thats a good one for u to get :bend:
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Post by: carmen on November 15, 2005, 07:26:51 AM
actually the two guitars you have range from about 450-to 650. That's a good price for guitars. A solid, but not great  guitar. I don't think any of us have that extra few grand lying around