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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Linkizcool on November 11, 2005, 03:19:27 AM

Title: Rememberance Day
Post by: Linkizcool on November 11, 2005, 03:19:27 AM

Wel, heres where you can say some sentimental thing about all the people who died in WWII. No rascist comments. Do not say Germany, say Nazi Party.

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Post by: PyroAlchemist on November 11, 2005, 03:48:04 AM

I do believe that it is for more than just WWII but I have someone to remember. My cousin died do to a wound at Desert Storm. May he rest in peace and continue to watch over this country (america)

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Post by: MrMister on November 11, 2005, 03:52:05 AM

People died in Desert Storm?!?

I love Rememberance Day. It is by far the second most Canadian of holidays, right after Canadian Thanksgiving.

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Post by: PyroAlchemist on November 11, 2005, 03:53:47 AM

Yup. Not as many as the one we're going through now but people did. Sucks that with so few my cousin was one of them. But I still got photos and a few memories.

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Post by: avi8r on November 11, 2005, 04:20:39 AM

I just have to say HORAY Hitler is dead :jumpin:

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Post by: MrMister on November 11, 2005, 05:16:27 AM

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I just have to say HORAY Hitler is dead :jumpin:

You are an fu*king huge sh*thead.
There was like, 50 countries involved.
I bet you wouldn't HORAY if Japan died, you fuckin retard.




















Cause you are most likely a Japanese culture fanboy..



In case you didn't get the anger driven joke.



Slapnuts.

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 11, 2005, 05:25:03 AM

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Originally posted by avi8r I just have to say HORAY Hitler is dead :jumpin:

You are an fucking huge shithead.
There was like, 50 countries involved.
I bet you wouldn't HORAY if Japan died, you fuckin retard.




















Cause you are most likely a Japanese culture fanboy..



In case you didn't get the anger driven joke.



Slapnuts.

And that, my good man, is why MM pwns j00.

And I think it was more than 50. Hell, I think the Allied forces alone exceeded 50 countries... google, AWAY!

EDIT: Yeah, 56.

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Post by: WarxePB on November 11, 2005, 05:27:35 AM

Remembrance Day is for remembering everyone who died in the name of peace. Not just WWI and II, although those are the biggest events attributed to it.

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 11, 2005, 05:29:02 AM

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Remembrance Day is for remembering everyone who died in the name of peace. Not just WWI and II, although those are the biggest events attributed to it.

Which is odd, because the Civil War had more losses I believe.

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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on November 11, 2005, 05:33:52 AM

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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade Remembrance Day is for remembering everyone who died in the name of peace. Not just WWI and II, although those are the biggest events attributed to it.

Which is odd, because the Civil War had more losses I believe.

55 million people died as a result of WWII alone. Are you sure?

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 11, 2005, 05:46:02 AM

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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX quote: Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade Remembrance Day is for remembering everyone who died in the name of peace. Not just WWI and II, although those are the biggest events attributed to it. Which is odd, because the Civil War had more losses I believe.

55 million people died as a result of WWII alone. Are you sure?

C'mon man, you shoulda learned by now that when I use the words "I think" its gonna be wrong.

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Post by: Razor on November 11, 2005, 11:18:35 AM

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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX quote: Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade Remembrance Day is for remembering everyone who died in the name of peace. Not just WWI and II, although those are the biggest events attributed to it. Which is odd, because the Civil War had more losses I believe.

55 million people died as a result of WWII alone. Are you sure?

WW1 lost more.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on November 11, 2005, 11:50:21 AM

yeah, more people died in WW1 due to the lack of technology...Tanks were easy to beat (climb in and take the guys out), the trenches were easy targets *after getting through no-mans land though* , and disease could easily take a soldier before war did.

anyways, yep, today is for remember soldiers who died in ALL wars (even the civil ones).

and avi8r....you are a f*cking retard.

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Post by: charaman on November 11, 2005, 04:16:54 PM

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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX

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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade Remembrance Day is for remembering everyone who died in the name of peace. Not just WWI and II, although those are the biggest events attributed to it.

Which is odd, because the Civil War had more losses I believe.

Your probably remembering wrong, but the civil war did have more American casualties, mainly because everyone was American. Maybe thats what you were thinking.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on November 11, 2005, 04:40:46 PM

it seems ZKX has "America Syndrome"...
he seems to think that america is the only country in the world

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 11, 2005, 05:39:58 PM

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it seems ZKX has "America Syndrome"...
he seems to think that america is the only country in the world

No no, I just remember an old history teacher who had a poster that said the Civil war had more losses than the combined allied forces of WWII. I thought it may be wrong though.

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Post by: Bluhman on November 11, 2005, 05:43:26 PM

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Originally posted by Leon_1990 it seems ZKX has "America Syndrome"... he seems to think that america is the only country in the world

No no, I just remember an old history teacher who had a poster that said the Civil war had more losses than the combined allied forces of WWII. I thought it may be wrong though.

My history teacher said the same thing too.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on November 11, 2005, 06:10:46 PM

Right! all teachers have america syndrome!

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Post by: Bluhman on November 11, 2005, 06:19:26 PM

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Right! all teachers have america syndrome!

That's what I was thinking.

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Post by: Linkizcool on November 15, 2005, 11:35:25 PM

Mine talks about old grannies fingering him and how it relates to history. Damn, it actually makes sense!

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Post by: Snake Eater on November 15, 2005, 11:49:03 PM

Not too be rude, but the only thing it means to me is that I had no school. ;)

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Post by: Linkizcool on November 16, 2005, 12:15:50 AM

*GASP* I dun even wanna think how insulted some people'll be!
Dont forget that millions died so yould have no school!

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Post by: Snake Eater on November 16, 2005, 01:17:11 AM

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*GASP* I dun even wanna think how insulted some people'll be!
Dont forget that millions died so yould have no school!

You took what I said wayyy to seriously.

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Post by: MrMister on November 16, 2005, 01:21:28 AM

WWI was more interesting in my opinion.
All because Franz is a cool name. Franz Ferdinand sounds like it came out of Vagrant Story.

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Post by: charaman on November 16, 2005, 03:14:10 AM

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WWI was more interesting in my opinion.
All because Franz is a cool name. Franz Ferdinand sounds like it came out of Vagrant Story.

he had a funny hat.

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Post by: MrMister on November 16, 2005, 05:00:00 AM

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Remeber:

THE BLOOD OF MILLIONS OOZES FROM BENEATH THEIR FINGERS!

Shut up. This is not an commercial for a charity fund; it's not what this thread is about, we can remember fine without you forcing your guilt crappy prison shit in our faces; stop ruining everything.

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Post by: Enduo_Ril on November 16, 2005, 05:06:46 AM

What's the fuss over saying "Germany" vs. saying "The Nazis"?

Just say "Nazi Germany".

It certainly wasn't the same Germany that we have today, but it WAS Germany as a whole (those who disagreed with the Nazis either got locked up and/or slaughtered, or they left the country), not JUST Hitler or the people involved in the Nazi leadership.

Germany's just like everybody else--they've had their moments of crappyness throughout history.

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on November 16, 2005, 05:26:11 AM

America syndrome? WTF? Gimme a break. We generally have the most casualties in any war. Why? We send in the most troops and we stay the longest. It's fact. If you think we're arrogant, I'll admit, the country as a whole is. However, just because your country doesn't throw themselves out there doesn't give you the right to say that we don't care about everyone else. We just have more people in the fight.

Aside from that, don't get into WWII and go blaming EVERYTHING on the Nazis. Look at Japan. They were just as bad. They killed many Chinese, Koreans, Americans... tons of people in their respective area. Does history ever focus on that? Of course not. The countries and races the Japanese killed don't cry every waking moment about how they were tortured and murdered in WWII. Many of them, if not all, have moved on. However, there are still several bitter Jews (no offense to those who are Jews here) that constantly cry about the Holocaust and are still getting reparations. What the hell? It's over. Done. Finished. If you have to moan to get publicity and try to make people feel guilty, you have a sad life. Yeah, I feel bad about the Holocaust, but to keep pressing the issue and making it the main focus in WWII is beyond me and ridiculous.

Now... to the real topic. May those who died in war rest in peace.

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Post by: MrMister on November 16, 2005, 05:41:36 AM

Yeah, many Jews bring that up, which was already apologized for, and was years and years ago. Yet they kill Jesus, and no apology for... you know... Jesus.

There are always ignorant people making ignorant statements like NAZIS SUCK BALLS; pretty much everyone thinks of Germany first when they hear WWII, and when you don't know anything about it, it's only natural to nazi-hate.

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Post by: Linkizcool on November 16, 2005, 05:53:58 AM

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Originally posted by Snake Eater quote: Originally posted by Linkizcool *GASP* I dun even wanna think how insulted some people'll be! Dont forget that millions died so yould have no school! You took what I said wayyy to seriously.

I didnt say I was insulted, Im just implying that I have friends who wud be insulted by that. Peace, mate Peace!  :D

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Originally posted by Linkizcool Wel, heres where you can say some sentimental thing about all the people who died in WWII. No rascist comments. Do not say Germany, say Nazi Party.

Sorry to burst your bubble here - but Germany DID declare war on poland. It's very easy in a climate of political correctness, and a fear of 'offending' current day peace-loving nations, but the fact remains that Germany was responsible for the death of 70 million that died in WW2.

That's not racist, that's a fact - a cold, historical fact. Will the history books say that, when it came to the war on iraq, it was entirely George Bush and NOT America? I think very much not.

You see, the Nazi party wouldn't have worked unless it had the willingess of the population - in the first instance to vote them in, and the second to go along with the process. All who could have stopped Hitler such as the German industrialists, scientists, technicians & the Military - all German, support him in a lust to restore former WW1 prestigue. The industrialists saw in him a means to make money, and so willingly made weapons banned by international treaty knowing entirley their intention. The Military followed him as he promised revenge for 1918. Leading scientists & doctors supported Nazi racial theories to promote their careers. In short, Germany in 1933 was one of the worlds most culturally and technologically advanced countries in the world; it was educated, had a strong middle class.

Hitler didn't force them, he persuaded them with the power of his twisted philosophy that made a nation believe that they were a master race destined to rule the earth by force.


To blame it entirely on the Nazi party is unjust - Germany is responsible for allowing herself to be persuaded, and history declares it so.

Um, well obviously you don't know that the Nazis brutally mudered any German who went against them, and yes, they did declare war on Poland,

 

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What's the fuss over saying "Germany" vs. saying "The Nazis"? Just say "Nazi Germany".

Thats what I meant :D

 

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It certainly wasn't the same Germany that we have today, but it WAS Germany as a whole (those who disagreed with the Nazis either got locked up and/or slaughtered

Learn from this guy, Jessica Squirrel. Don't post pics of prisons. It's like porno, it twists your mind. Remember, this is supposed to be memorial of sorts to the people who died.

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Post by: Razor on November 16, 2005, 09:45:39 AM

I'm sure the dead veterans would just love what they were fighting in being compared to a porno, lol.

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Post by: carmen on November 16, 2005, 02:12:59 PM

we're also talking about a different era. Keep that in mind.
You have to imagine the mindset of the germans at this time. The German soldiers were only pawns in this position. And the SS was created from an arian race. The seperation is hard for people to distinguish sometimes.

But does this argument ever grow old? I mean...wow. reason for the season I suppose.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on November 16, 2005, 06:19:17 PM

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America syndrome? WTF? Gimme a break. We generally have the most casualties in any war. Why? We send in the most troops and we stay the longest. It's fact. If you think we're arrogant, I'll admit, the country as a whole is. However, just because your country doesn't throw themselves out there doesn't give you the right to say that we don't care about everyone else. We just have more people in the fight.

Aside from that, don't get into WWII and go blaming EVERYTHING on the Nazis. Look at Japan. They were just as bad. They killed many Chinese, Koreans, Americans... tons of people in their respective area. Does history ever focus on that? Of course not. The countries and races the Japanese killed don't cry every waking moment about how they were tortured and murdered in WWII. Many of them, if not all, have moved on. However, there are still several bitter Jews (no offense to those who are Jews here) that constantly cry about the Holocaust and are still getting reparations. What the hell? It's over. Done. Finished. If you have to moan to get publicity and try to make people feel guilty, you have a sad life. Yeah, I feel bad about the Holocaust, but to keep pressing the issue and making it the main focus in WWII is beyond me and ridiculous.

Now... to the real topic. May those who died in war rest in peace.

Yeah, that´s true! But can you say otherwise about: American die cause they like to pick a profitable fight, ythey like to destroy the planet and stick their nose everywhere!

Belive me, I´m sorry to say that cause I really wanted such a developed country to help the whole world to survive and avoid wars between the people of the world. But that´s not what I´ve been seeing.

Again, I´m sorry if I was too rude.

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Post by: Revolution911 on November 16, 2005, 08:04:47 PM

o_o...."Banned member: Yes"...PWNED

Anyway...I see no one involved in WWII evil...no one. I dont really judge intentions. Regardless of your intentions, if you can complete them without failure, I can respect that. For the most part, people who are considered as "evil" are merely misunderstood. Hitler thought by killing Jews, he was ridding the world of demons and such. But..Im not saying he's a hero. Meh. It roots to the bible and Im too lazy to type up the whole big "story" thing. (Not that it justifies what he did)


Edit: And uh...I was looking at some of these posts but...honestly...if you dont know what the hell you're talking about, dont post.

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Post by: Kinslayer on November 16, 2005, 10:19:43 PM

Well... Rememberance Day is to remember people who died, so... I'll remember the boys who died at the Falkland War between Argentina and the UK at 1982... They were only kids sent by those dictators... May they rest in peace.

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Post by: Razor on November 16, 2005, 10:25:49 PM

Let's all just drop the anti-america thing.

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Post by: coasterkrazy on November 16, 2005, 10:42:40 PM

Razor is right. I've just been looking at this thread and it started as a Canadian holiday I didn't know about that I was learning about from this and a few bad comments to a full-blown debate that pointed fingers at various countries. Everyone has faults, no country is perfect, no country will stay in power for ever. It occurred to me that this is an international forum, and I feel that we really do get along great with any differences we have. So in other words, Razor is right, but not just with America, with anyone who has been pointing out a country's faults.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on November 16, 2005, 10:46:56 PM

Dude, she was banned...

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Post by: Razor on November 16, 2005, 10:52:39 PM

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Razor is right. I've just been looking at this thread and it started as a Canadian holiday I didn't know about that I was learning about from this and a few bad comments to a full-blown debate that pointed fingers at various countries. Everyone has faults, no country is perfect, no country will stay in power for ever. It occurred to me that this is an international forum, and I feel that we really do get along great with any differences we have. So in other words, Razor is right, but not just with America, with anyone who has been pointing out a country's faults.

Slight correction, I thought Rememberance Day was celebrated practically globally. Cause we do it in Australia too.

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Post by: Bluhman on November 16, 2005, 10:52:43 PM

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Dude, she was banned...

Guessing t'was the signature.

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Post by: Razor on November 16, 2005, 10:54:06 PM

What was it, anyway? I did not see it, but apparently "nazi wolf" or something?

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Post by: Snake Eater on November 16, 2005, 11:48:50 PM

Jessica has been PWNED by Charas.  :p

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 17, 2005, 12:01:55 AM

Yeah, it was a nazi wolf sucking another nazi fox's dick. And en, sorry ghostclown.

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Post by: GhostClown on November 17, 2005, 12:05:55 AM

NOT a good idea, Meiscool.

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Post by: coasterkrazy on November 17, 2005, 01:30:35 AM

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Originally posted by coasterkrazy Razor is right. I've just been looking at this thread and it started as a Canadian holiday I didn't know about that I was learning about from this and a few bad comments to a full-blown debate that pointed fingers at various countries. Everyone has faults, no country is perfect, no country will stay in power for ever. It occurred to me that this is an international forum, and I feel that we really do get along great with any differences we have. So in other words, Razor is right, but not just with America, with anyone who has been pointing out a country's faults.

Slight correction, I thought Rememberance Day was celebrated practically globally. Cause we do it in Australia too.

Oh, well I've never heard of it until now.

@Almeidaboo: I realize she was banned, but she seemed to be sucking other people into the topic anyway...

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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on November 17, 2005, 04:51:53 AM

 

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Japan took no responsibility for the atrocities during WW2, and to this day refuses to apologize for it's barbarity and depature from the Civilized world during the War. To this day, Japanese school children, among the most educated on the planet, are kept ignorant of the atrocities that they're grandparents commited. The fact that this was allowed to happen was that the old Elite that commited these atrocites were allowed to remain after the war to rebuild their shattered country - unlike in Germany, where the 'De-Nazification' process by the victorious powers ensured that every trace of the regime was held accountable for it's actions.

What's the one word that Japanese people find easy to say? Kamikazee! What's the hardest word?

Sorry.

Despite the fact that she's no longer here, I would like to mention that this is the most ridiculous post in this whole topic. Japan? Not responisible for the atrocities in WWII? So, I guess toasting Jews was the only atrocity, but the murdering of Chinese, and other races in Asia was not. So much for your great knowledge. Nice to know your banned for your "explicit" sig pic.

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Post by: charaman on November 17, 2005, 09:04:55 PM

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Oh, well I've never heard of it until now.

Its called veteran's day here... -_-

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Post by: coasterkrazy on November 17, 2005, 09:29:33 PM

Hahaha, that never even occurred to me. I always forget when Veteran's Day is. I should have been able to recognize that...

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Post by: Kinslayer on November 17, 2005, 10:22:55 PM

I'd like to remember that there are other huge genocides not recognized or punished: the Armenian genocide by the Otoman Empire at 1915 when more than 500.000 armenians were brutally killed, and the two nuclear bombs thrown in Japan, when the war was obviously going to be won, and they used Hiroshima and Nagasaki as test subjects. I don't think that there are many countries who can punish others for commiting genocides (for example, it happened in my country too, although we did not choose it, during the military dictatures, when more than 30000 people were reported as "dissapeared")

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Post by: charaman on November 17, 2005, 11:29:10 PM

I'd like to remember that pointing fingers is wrong. What a country did then is not blamable on who they are now.

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Post by: Razor on November 18, 2005, 04:52:04 AM

From what I've been informed, Japan were gonna bomb America 3 days after America bombed Japan. But then America blew them up. And then the Japanese didn't blow them up, instead they surrendored.

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Post by: Kinslayer on November 18, 2005, 09:37:17 PM

Well, what I mean through what I posted is not to pint figers all I say is that there are really no countries who can punish others for commiting genocides, because of that they had theirs too.

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Post by: Archem on November 18, 2005, 10:02:45 PM

I'd like to take this moment to remember those who died in 9/11 and the family they left behind. Although it's vet's day here. And I'm a bit late... Again...

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Post by: Linkizcool on November 19, 2005, 02:35:15 AM

I'd also like to take this moment to all thoses who are dead in Iraq.

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Post by: Dragonchick93 on November 19, 2005, 02:46:56 AM

aw...thats beautiful....anyways i have nothing in particlular to remember exept the people who died in  the trajic wars of the world....thats all....-.-" ;) *wink*