Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 05:27:57 AM
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Post by: DragonBlaze on November 12, 2005, 07:09:30 AM
I'd at least play through Kingdom Hearts before selling it. I never played it, but if you bought it, you might as well play through the whole thing, it may get better.
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 07:33:23 AM
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on November 12, 2005, 07:46:25 AM
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I've heard of that.What's it about?
It's a pretty good game. The battles aren't turn-based. Instead, your party and the enemies move around the battlefield and fight in real-time. You control one character while the AI controls the other two. I had a lot of fun with the game, but I like Star Ocean 2 a lot better.
As for the story, I won't try to ruin much... but basically you are in a spaceship that gets attacked by enemy forces, and they kidnap your parents and you end up stranded on a strange planet. Sounds bad, but it picks up a bit. Not an amazing story, but it's not bad.
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 12, 2005, 07:47:45 AM
For four hundred peaceful years, humans and aliens have co-existed thanks to the influence of the Pangalactic Federation until one day without warning; the planet Hyda IV is attacked by an unknown superpower. Vacationing college student Fayt Leingod and best friend Sophia Esteed are soon forced into a series of events that sends them on a quest to save their loved ones and solve the mystery of who attacked them and why. Boasting more than 80-hours of gameplay and a highly strategic real-time battle system, Star Ocean: Till the End of Time is known best as one of the first RPGs ever announced for the PlayStation 2. And as an added bonus for American gamers, Star Ocean 3 contains all the same content and goodies previously available in the Japanese-only Director's Cut version.
Anyway, I thought the game was really good. The story was highly unpredictable and had some MAJOR plot twists. And even though it has a futuristic time setting, about half the game occurs in a medival setting. The battle system is by far my favorite rpg battle system with real time fighting. The graphics are really good. The voice actors actually did a good job.
The only things I didn't like about it was the last boss and there was this event that dealt with the main character, but being as big as it was, I don't think they tied it to the end of the game well enough.
Anyway, I give the game a 9/10 :)
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 07:54:59 AM
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Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 07:58:21 AM
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 12, 2005, 08:09:19 AM
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How are the Party members in star ocean?
They're actually pretty good, you can set up their battle stratagies, their formation, and what moves they use. You can also swich back and forth between characters really fast and change their stratagies on the fly.
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 08:32:22 AM
Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 12, 2005, 09:11:08 AM
But at least play through KH before you sell it.
And yes Star Ocean(3) til the end of time is a good game, but it got kinda wierd after some special events...
And for other rpgs...I see alot of good onces at game stores but i can never remember the name... Just go there and look around.
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 09:32:21 AM
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 12, 2005, 10:10:14 AM
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Get Star Ocean: Till the End of Time, it was my favorite RPG on the PS2.
I'd at least play through Kingdom Hearts before selling it. I never played it, but if you bought it, you might as well play through the whole thing, it may get better.
It sucks! Donīt buy it! It has an excelent battle system and marvelous graphics, but the storyline s.u.c.k.s! Buy Radiata Stories, Suikoden 3, Shadow Hearts, Wild Arms 3, Front Mission 4...leave Star Ocean for when youīre bored and has no other RPG to play. OR buy PS1 Star Ocean: The 2nd Story and that one rules all...
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 10:18:50 AM
Post by: Drace on November 12, 2005, 10:51:24 AM
For action I suggest: Shadow of Rome, Killzone, Red Dead Revolver, God of War and Psi Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy.
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on November 12, 2005, 01:31:57 PM
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 12, 2005, 01:55:04 PM
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Originally posted by shadus
IT's three to one on star ocean.
Listen, if youīre asking for it I can tell you SO3's story so that you can tell yourself how stupid it is! Plus, you should listen carefully, cause Iīve played more RPGs than most of the ppl who voted for Star Ocean 3 so...
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 02:13:29 PM
Post by: Drace on November 12, 2005, 02:25:34 PM
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Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
Kingdom Hearts is one of the greatest games ever. At least for PS2.
If that isn't sarcasm than you've lost a whole lot of respect from me.
Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 02:32:52 PM
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Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 05:31:21 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 12, 2005, 05:52:10 PM
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Listen, if youīre asking for it I can tell you SO3's story so that you can tell yourself how stupid it is! Plus, you should listen carefully, cause Iīve played more RPGs than most of the ppl who voted for Star Ocean 3 so...
Yeah, I've played pretty much every RPG I could get my hands on, I still vote for SO3. If they went with it the way you thought it would go after the events on planet Styx, it probably would have been better, but who knows. But they took it a way that no game has really gone before, and it was nice to see something really original. I guess you'll like the story or hate it depending on one twist, but it'll totally ruin the game if anyone says what it is (please don't!). But I think the battle system as well as other aspects of the game will still make finishing the game worth while if you don't like the twist.
I was just looking around today and there were a few new rpg games that might be good for the ps2, shining force neo and suikoden tactics. They'll have tactical battle systems though instead of side view ones, but if you like tactical battle systems, I suggest taking a look at them. Both are new though so they're gonna cost you $40 or $50. Good thing about SO3 is that you can buy it new for $15 or $20 :)
Post by: MrMister on November 12, 2005, 06:14:52 PM
BEST RPG ON PS2 EVER!!!! --------> WILD ARMS 3 <---------
It's a western, it's got turnbased fighting but it still really kicks ***.
BUY IT.
Two games I'm getting soon are Shadow of the Colossus and Trapt.
Trapt is a sequel in the 'Deception' series, where to come up with creative ways for people to die by setting up kickass traps, like giant swinging blades and rocks that roll down stairs. You can develop new traps by combining them with elements and timers and stuff. You can also use them with the environment, like rocketting a guard into an iron maiden.
I shouldn't have to explain Shadow of the Colossus.. I guess it's not an RPG anyways..
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on November 12, 2005, 06:16:23 PM
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Post by: shadus on November 12, 2005, 06:50:32 PM
Post by: barnsalot on November 12, 2005, 10:00:57 PM
If I were to recommend a PS2 RPG, I'd probably say Disgaea. It's a strategy/tactics RPG, but it's probably the best of that type around. The problem is, it can be a little difficult to get a copy of.
It's got a good, comedic storyline and an immense amount of character building. I've played one file for about 190 hours and have a character at level 6500.
Anyway, goodluck finding a good game to play! :)
Post by: Bluhman on November 12, 2005, 10:06:47 PM
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on November 12, 2005, 11:12:08 PM
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Well So far KH is ether going to be sold in my dad's yard sale for 25$Or it's going to be traded for a nother game.
25? Its sold at 20 on greatest hits in every store in America.
Post by: Bart_Fatima on November 12, 2005, 11:15:00 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 12, 2005, 11:21:20 PM
Yeah Xenogears is a good game, but your gonna have a really hard time finding any good rpgs from the PSX (besides FF games, you can find them anywhere).
EDIT: 900th post :D
Post by: Snake Eater on November 12, 2005, 11:49:48 PM
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2005, 12:57:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bart_Fatima
you want agreat RPG, get XENOGEARS. Its better than any RPG on PS1 that is not FF.....It is totally better than Xenosaga...and it has awesome graphics for a PS1 game
Yeah, go play Xenogears...
*sigh
Man that game ruled all...
Post by: SaiKar on November 13, 2005, 04:05:21 AM
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Yeah, go play Xenogears...[/B]
Don't even get me STARTED on Xenogears!
Okay okay, see, there is this one part of the game really late when the main characters have to attack this battlestation, see? The thing has a really big laser gun that can cut through anything and recharges in, like, less than a second. So the heroes have a meeting to talk about how they're going to fight this thing. There's about fifteen minutes of technical talk, and they hype it all up, making it sound like one heck of a fight, and I got really interested in seeing what was going to happen.
And then the fight sequence. A completely blurry black and white "old movie-style" ten second clip of the battle..
I never did beat the game. I didn't even bother saving. I just turned it off and walked away and never came back to that overhyped piece of trash. Maybe if the last half of the game was more than a character sitting in a chair talking about stuff it would have been awesome. UGH.
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 13, 2005, 05:09:31 AM
I never finished the game either, I burned it on my computer from a friend, but then my computer crashed and my friend moved away :( I wasn't too far, but still..
Post by: Drace on November 13, 2005, 10:01:27 AM
But what's this with all this trading games in?
Bah! You people make me sick! Trading in a game is like trading in your child. Don't ****ing do it.
Post by: Razor on November 13, 2005, 10:25:59 AM
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
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Originally posted by SaiKar
quote: Yeah, go play Xenogears...
Don't even get me STARTED on Xenogears!
Okay okay, see, there is this one part of the game really late when the main characters have to attack this battlestation, see? The thing has a really big laser gun that can cut through anything and recharges in, like, less than a second. So the heroes have a meeting to talk about how they're going to fight this thing. There's about fifteen minutes of technical talk, and they hype it all up, making it sound like one heck of a fight, and I got really interested in seeing what was going to happen.
And then the fight sequence. A completely blurry black and white "old movie-style" ten second clip of the battle..
I never did beat the game. I didn't even bother saving. I just turned it off and walked away and never came back to that overhyped piece of trash. Maybe if the last half of the game was more than a character sitting in a chair talking about stuff it would have been awesome. UGH.[/B]
Oh no, C'mon Sai, now youīre forcing it! After FF7 this really puts your RPG knowledge in question! It is unanimous that Xenogears is one of the bestest RPGs ever. Maybe they could have done somethig better in the 2nd CD, but the whole game kicks @ss! Marvelous battle system, awesome graphics, thrilling and perfect story, a amazing main character, and I canīt forget: the best soundtrack ever!
Post by: Osmose on November 13, 2005, 01:21:42 PM
Yeah, Xenogears was REALLY LONG. Now, if they had kept it like it was in the first disc, maybe it would've been less noticable and more fun. But there's something amiss when the developers have to change the format of the entire story delivery just to compensate for the fact that their game is REALLY REALLY LONG.
Plus, they tease you with huge Gears like the merged city/airship that are only available for one battle.
There are quite a few good PSX games that weren't Final Fantasy or Xenogears. Saga Frontier (Never played 2 but I've heard it's just as good). Klonoa. Brave Fencer Musashi. Megaman Legends 1 & 2, The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, Lunar Silver Star Story, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (My FAVORITE PSX GAME EVAR).
I highly recommend every single one of those games.
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2005, 01:31:19 PM
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It's not unanimous. Sai disagrees. :P
Yeah, Xenogears was REALLY LONG. Now, if they had kept it like it was in the first disc, maybe it would've been less noticable and more fun. But there's something amiss when the developers have to change the format of the entire story delivery just to compensate for the fact that their game is REALLY REALLY LONG.
Plus, they tease you with huge Gears like the merged city/airship that are only available for one battle.
There are quite a few good PSX games that weren't Final Fantasy or Xenogears. Saga Frontier (Never played 2 but I've heard it's just as good). Klonoa. Brave Fencer Musashi. Megaman Legends 1 & 2, The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, Lunar Silver Star Story, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (My FAVORITE PSX GAME EVAR).
I highly recommend every single one of those games.
Not to mention Grandia, Alundra, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean: 2nd Story...but dude, weīre onPSX when the guy asked for PS2 stuff...
Ah, I have to say this: do NOT buy Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. IT has one of the coolest (maybe even cooler than Xenogears' or Grandia's or Arc of the Lad's) battle system, but the other system (the game system) kinda blows...
EDIT: Oh yeah, I recommend Shin Megami's Digital Devil Saga, specially if youīre into metaphores and kinda gloomy moods!
Post by: Drace on November 13, 2005, 02:46:09 PM
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Originally posted by Osmose
There are quite a few good PSX games that weren't Final Fantasy or Xenogears. Saga Frontier (Never played 2 but I've heard it's just as good). Klonoa. Brave Fencer Musashi. Megaman Legends 1 & 2, The Misadventures of Tron Bonne, Lunar Silver Star Story, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (My FAVORITE PSX GAME EVAR).
I highly recommend every single one of those games.
Tenchu. Dude, you forgot the original Tenchu. That game was sweet.
Post by: DragonBlaze on November 13, 2005, 04:17:23 PM
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Ah, I have to say this: do NOT buy Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. IT has one of the coolest (maybe even cooler than Xenogears' or Grandia's or Arc of the Lad's) battle system, but the other system (the game system) kinda blows...
Its not that bad of a game IF you use a gameshark. Basically the game only lets you save it a few times, which is a very stupid feature. You can save it whenever you want, but then that data is erased when you load it.
If you die or your dragon meter goes all the way up and you don't have any recent game files, well you have to start over. The game is supposed to be designed like that, but I for one would rather play through a game then get half way through it and end up having to restart it from the beginning, its happened more than once...
So yeah, use gameshark, give yourself unlimited save tokens.
Oh, and Ryu is supposed to be able to turn into a dragon, but the little thing he turns into looks nothing like a dragon :(
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2005, 07:17:03 PM
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Well now that we're on the subject of PSX games, I'd also like to add Chrono Cross, Breath of Fire 3 and 4, Vanguard Bandits, and Vandel Hearts (first one, second one sucked).
quote: Ah, I have to say this: do NOT buy Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. IT has one of the coolest (maybe even cooler than Xenogears' or Grandia's or Arc of the Lad's) battle system, but the other system (the game system) kinda blows...
Its not that bad of a game IF you use a gameshark. Basically the game only lets you save it a few times, which is a very stupid feature. You can save it whenever you want, but then that data is erased when you load it.
If you die or your dragon meter goes all the way up and you don't have any recent game files, well you have to start over. The game is supposed to be designed like that, but I for one would rather play through a game then get half way through it and end up having to restart it from the beginning, its happened more than once...
So yeah, use gameshark, give yourself unlimited save tokens.
Oh, and Ryu is supposed to be able to turn into a dragon, but the little thing he turns into looks nothing like a dragon :(
Yeah, that dragon meter thing sucks ***...but I l liked that tranformation! I hate the fact that I canīt do it everytime I want! Thatīs the freaking why I didnīt beat the game: I couldnīt stand it!
Post by: Razor on November 13, 2005, 08:09:41 PM
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 14, 2005, 11:28:13 AM
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If Weregnome were here, he'd suggest Grandia and Grandia 2. According to him, they were great RPGs.
And heīs freaking right. Those were awesome RPGs...
Post by: GaryCXJk on November 15, 2005, 09:25:23 AM
I don't know why you would think Kingdom Hearts is dumb. I can understand THAT you don't like it, but at least give me a reason WHY you don't like it. If you just sold KH because of the "Disney story", then you're selling the wrong game, and you aren't even worthy of playing any RPG.
So, please, give me the reason why you don't like the game.
Post by: Revolution911 on November 16, 2005, 08:40:06 PM
I liked the little plot twists they included.
And the battle system was great
But if you want a diff game, I LOVED star ocean. Personally, I cant stand turn based battle systems. I dont play many RPG's, so thats really all I can suggest. But Soul Calibur and DMC:3 were great. Maybe some RE4.
Post by: shadus on November 19, 2005, 04:32:53 PM
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Back to the KH part.
I don't know why you would think Kingdom Hearts is dumb. I can understand THAT you don't like it, but at least give me a reason WHY you don't like it. If you just sold KH because of the "Disney story", then you're selling the wrong game, and you aren't even worthy of playing any RPG.
So, please, give me the reason why you don't like the game.
Simply the story got weard and didn't make sence.I liked that you got to play with goofy because he's the coolest guy ever!But they didn't help much and I ended up doing most of the fighting while the other two ran around and didn't do much.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 19, 2005, 05:23:50 PM
If you want something similar to star ocean, get .hack.
Post by: MrMister on November 19, 2005, 05:27:00 PM
Post by: Drighton on November 19, 2005, 05:35:04 PM
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It sucks! Donīt buy it! ...
I will now forever picture you as this guy :D
"It stinks, it stinks, it stinks, it stinks, it stinks..."
Post by: GaryCXJk on November 19, 2005, 05:45:44 PM
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Originally posted by shadusI can say the same about Final Fantasy VII, or Secret of Mana, or hell, even Fallout.
Simply the story got weard and didn't make sence.I liked that you got to play with goofy because he's the coolest guy ever!But they didn't help much and I ended up doing most of the fighting while the other two ran around and didn't do much.
Lame excuse for the fact that you just don't get the story.
And they seem to not do anything, but in fact they are quite helpfull. Play through it a little more before deciding on selling it. I bet you didn't even get after Traverse Town, from where things only can get cooler.
Post by: SaiKar on November 19, 2005, 10:57:48 PM
Post by: Razor on November 20, 2005, 01:18:56 AM
I can't believe that that is that guy's real voice!
Post by: FFL2and3rocks on November 20, 2005, 01:38:13 AM
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Pah, The Critic was an awesome show.
It stinks!
Heh, just kiddin'. It's awesome. :heart:
Post by: DarkFlood2 on November 20, 2005, 02:49:34 AM