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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: Ben on December 05, 2005, 12:57:52 AM
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The Demo copy will be begining beta testing next week it seems..
Im not online, nor will I be posting a beta version online.....so unless you live down the road from me, I wont be needing your assistance beta testing.
All of the new Chipsets are custom......
All of the new Charsets are custom.....
The lead character, Nigel, is now different.
The Stealing system has been tweaked.....as with the Job system..
The Job/classing is now based alot more toward FF6.....the character does NOT change jobs.....but has their own set of skills...that progress throughout the game...
The Vehicular system.....I never went into this much before but I shall now.
Similar to say, Xenogear.....you have Vehicles to choose from....wich all have different upgrades available. They are treated as seperate Characters......You start with a crappy "Car" type of vehicle, and upgrade, buy new, salvage, build, untill you end up with Bipedial Robots that crush stuff with the power of METAAAAL!
Now Implemented.....
Rare Items Shops.....You Buy/sell/trade rare items.......there are missions involved in getting some. some are very rare. some are used to forge new weapons etc.
Missions.....Ive stolen elements from FFTA for the mission system.....but it works nicely........they are all operated through the...
COMPUTER system........
I dont feel like getting into this untill have bugs worked out.
And the Forging and Blacksmith and Mechanic Shop system...where items are forged using other items....a simple bartering system really..
The ability stealing is still heavily implemented....but now Every
Character (Most anyways) Have their own special "Steal ability"
that im also not going to get too far into....
Im taking a break from work to write this so im in a bit of aq HURRY....
Anyways.......
Ill try and remember to get some screenshots online next week....
the game is lookinjg super cool.
The Genian Conflict
The game starts out, in a small yet prosperous Country, Composed of Scattered Islands, that refers to itself as "The Corneilian Republic"...It is a country where all races, even the Genians (A race widely outcast due to their un-natural origions and bizarre, varying appearance) albeit in seperate colonies, self sufficient, and self contained.
The Sepian Knights, A guild of Contract Adventurers are Based out of a Headquarters a small trek away from a busy harbour town, Where they, and other local Guilds Compete for Jobs...The Sepian Knights, Score big....with a high risk, but high paying job, of the utmost secrecy...to investigate a communications cut-off from a mountain-peak mining town......
Grim Events Unfold Leading the Sepian Knights on a mission to report to the crown itself, only to be met with treachery and knowledge that could mean the end of peace among the races and guilds of the world.....
The Events that Unfold Prepare for the Immense World of Gameplay and Immense story to follow...
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Yo, tell me what you need coded for you game. I need a title for my game, so it's an equalivilent exchange.
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Im not too hot with variables......I dont grasp them well, Unless I have somebody Specifically explaining what Im doing, And why Im doing it, What ITS doing, And Why its doing it.....Either way....
My theif's behaviour, in battle, is much like a Blue Mage.
Really, In this game, All characters can Learn Enemy Skills, But its the Theif who obtains them...
I have a simple system for it, beacause Im stupid.
I have A "steal ability" Skill....It is a switch...
The Enemy uses a Stealable Skill.....It triggers a switch.....
When the two Switches Activate, The Theif Steals The Ability Item....
The Ability is contained by using the ability Item...
This works.....Its simple in its logistics, and I grasp it well....
But as it stands.....The Theif Steals The Item, 100% of the Time, Without Question.....This is far too easy....
So I figured Id make a series of "Steal Ability" Skill/Switches....
I was planning to do this anyways.....as I would want to have a "Steal Fighter Ability....Steak Black Magic....Steal Summon etc..."
But Im thinking.....
That gives me 5 different "steal Ability" skills.....And If I have to make Different Versions of that skill, it would be confusing for the player to have to Choose Between 5 differnt "Steal Fighter Ability" Skills.....Not to mention there is alot more switches at play......
Im bad with Variables, as I said.....
So I Have two paths Id like to Take....The First one is my preffered path
A
In Essence Im trying to figure Out How to Have The "Steal (Insert Class) Ability" Skill's Potency/Effectiveness Directly proportional to the Theifs Level...
or
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I would Like There to Only Be a 50% 50%chance Of a Sucessfull steal......
I need the player to have to Try a couple of times.....you know......Hunt for the Monster a few times to get the Ability Item
This is The First Issue......Out of Three...
The Second......My Summoners
There is 8 different Groups Of Summon (Well Call em Espers)
Eight Espers.... That I need to Figure out how to code.
Each Esper has A few Skills to use....3 to be precise.
Mog (Mog rush, Mog Lance, Mog Aid)
Chocobo (Chocobo Rush, Fat Chocobo, Chocobo Feather)
Ifrit (Hellfire, Nulblaze, Fireblade)
Shiva(Arctic Wind, Diamond Dust, Nulfrost)
Ramuh(Quetzalcoti, Judgement bolt, Nulshock)
Titan(Earthquake, Seismic Toss, Boulder)
Seraph (Ultimecia's Wraith, Holy, Phoenix)
Tiamat(bahamut,Tiamat, Neo-Tiamat)
As its planned, Im making Each Ability a different skill.....Each Independant....
I need to Know two things....
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Ill just tell you what Im trying to do...
In the Battle Menu
Attack ....................................|---Summon Ifrit----Hellfire
Item........................................| Nullblaze
Summon----chosenoption------|-Summon Choco------Choco Feather
Defend ...................................|
Run..........................................| -------Summon Mog---Mog Lance
A sub-Menu system, to Group the Espers Abilitys
AND----
Is there a way to Make it so that the More you use One Esper, The More Accurate or Effective the Espers Skills Become?
Last but not Least.......
Class/Guild Changing and Point System
Again, Ill just explain the Effect Im going for....
Nigel Starts the Game as a Theif......As such, Ge gets Commisioned With Special Tasks....Missions....To find Items, And Retrieve Them....He Reports to a Class/Guild Hall or NPC....
He completes The Guild, He gets A Guild Point Increase.......
He does this for quite some time....Goes up a couple of levels In his Guild....Gets Better Jobs Depending On the Level....
One Day, Nigel Decides He dosent Want to Be a Theif, He wants to Be a Fighter......
So He Joins The Fighters Guild.....He Now Has Zero GuildPoints With The Fighters Guild....
But He is No longer A member of The Theives Guild....)He can Not Steal Abilities unless he is a MEmber of the Theives Guild)
But He Can Still Use Any other Theif Ability Hes Learned Along the Way......
But now hes ripping it up as A fighter, With Theifs Abilities....Hes a MultiClassed Hombre With an Attitude.....He Can "Mug" a Guy....Then He can use his "Berserk" he learned from the Fighters Guild.....
I need to Be able to Change Classes.....in otherwords....
But I need the Character to Remember the Skills He Learned.....Unless He is A theif converting Classes, In wich Case the Only Ability Not Available is "Steal Ability"
I really Hope this all makes Sense.....
Any Help is Nice......
Credit Will Be Given......
And Return Favors Will be bestowed
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Thats alot of coding you need.
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This is the Main Villain from the First Chapter......
His Name Is Duro.....A court jester, that Manages to Weasel his way into the Throne
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I swear to god, Im not trying to topic kick......
This is the First Origional BattleCharset........
I need to make 4 more (One for each class)
For this Character.....
Her name is Sylphe
There are still discrepancies with her, but Ive lost patience...Bchar sets Are tedious for me....I get bitchy when I do them..
I probably just need to get more familiar......
Wich Reminds Me.....I will Draw Title Screens and Monsters For anyone who would Like to Lend me a Hand With My Charsets and Bcharsets....
Ive Got alot Of them To do.....ALOT.....
% Classes for Each Character....
Plus Two More on top of that...But those ones are for Generic PCs.
Either Way....I will post the Next one When Im done
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Awesome sprites , and Good Luck with the coding.
But this all makes me think of FF6 ... especially with Duro being a "cour Jester" trying to get the throne.
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Lol i love that frog. And in a gallery of pics of your own. Its fine to multipost, when your adding attachments. I do that alot on mine.
Btw if you want you could make your white mage like an archer also. And add the skill purification arrow or something that instantly kills the enemy if its undead. Along with any other arrow techniques. Or a gunner cleric with the same idea. Calling the skill rocksalt bullet. Because supposidly rocksalt distrupts ghostly spirits. It is also use for purification rituals and the blessing of houses. You could also give your white mage sutras, that could paralyze or hurt undead enemies. Maybe you could call your white mage a cleric or a priest/priestess.
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but they look kind of manly for a her
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Ive made the Same FF6 Connection....Duro is a Short Fixture....He is a Figurehead....Puppet...
The Dude Who takes the Throne After Duro is A Genetically modified Elf.....
He needs to Use Duro To take the Throne, So the people dont initially revolt at the sight of an Elven King.......
But Duro's Job is to Make as Big a mess as possible, as king, To make the People Readily accept any ruler.....Elven or otherwise....
A tidbit for you....
Im working on a Portrait of the Character Ive been Submitting...
Should be in within an Hour
This is One Character.....In one Set of Class Clothing..
And Yes, This Character Is a Her....
There are 3 Men, A woman, And An Androgeny in the Main Cast.....
I can Hardly Wait untill I get "Cid Garland" (Get that....A little FF1 refernce?) Up and Going....Hes Going to Be badass.....
At this rate, I should Be done By necx Month Sometime....Anbd can Get to Actually Making the Maps....
Ive got too many sheets of paper with Sketchy game Pictures and Maps on them...Theyre Building up
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I would like to try make a charset for the grey haired person. Though im kinda wonder how you cant tell, unless his/her face is covered partly. And really loose clothes. Btw what character is the grey haired person, what class.
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Alrighty she is gonna be a girl with short hair cause i said so. lol. Girls clothes are more interesting to make.
Nice face though i dont like the black outlines on the eyebrows.
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Thanks For the Input......Thats Good Advice....Im going to Fix them Now.
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Good. btw did you read this?
Btw if you want you could make your white mage like an archer also. And add the skill purification arrow or something that instantly kills the enemy if its undead. Along with any other arrow techniques. Or a gunner cleric with the same idea. Calling the skill rocksalt bullet. Because supposidly rocksalt distrupts ghostly spirits. It is also use for purification rituals and the blessing of houses. You could also give your white mage sutras, that could paralyze or hurt undead enemies. Maybe you could call your white mage a cleric or a priest/priestess.
This is about what else you can do with your white mage to give him a twist.
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I did catch that...I edited an Earlier post to Respond, So I wouldnt be Kicking....I think thats awesome, and im using it.....
Youre getting a Graphic next to your name in the credits
Im posting a Bchar set I just Made for the Tonberrian Creature...."Wedge" (Who of course, Travels With Biggs, The White Mage)
He is Very basic, But in the story, The Tonberry are strictly forbiddent to wear anything aside froma burlap robe...Hes Gonna Have Hats, For the Differing Classes...
Heres the first one
Again...From Scratch....For the Most part....Ive Been using Insane JP's BChar Template, But I modified it.....
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And here is Part 2
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Wheres his lantern or w/e its called.
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The lantern and Chefs Knife Are both Items Purchased/obtained....They will have Thier Own Animations.....
The Knife Associated With Melee Attacks, And Lanter for Magical Attacks.....
Now I have to think Of a new Costume For My White Mage/ Gunner..........Hrrmmm
Suggestions? Perhaps A trenchcoat, Methinks.....
Dark.......With a Wite Tunic Underneath? Something that looks Cool with Bright red Hair......Black Trenchcoat.....White Scarf????
Im stuck
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Biggs......
This is what Ive got.......It says gunner....It says mage.....
Input?
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part 2
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The Cinematic Portrait that Accompanies Wedge and Biggs
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I dont like the way they're staring at me...
I feel as if I'm gonna get shot.
Definately gonna keep looking at this thread
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Ah... you last thing was a lot to read, so I just skimmed it. So, you need:
Randommizing Thief stealing powers then?
I can do that in a snich. How's this sound:
Say you get the ability at lvl 30. For every lvl you've got, you get a 1% chance to steal. So, at lvl 56, you've got a 56% chance. Now, I can add more twists and turns to this if you want, like monster evadesion and etc. However, if you're truly considering doing this, the steal everything and all abilities and crap, you're going to need a CBS. Ask DragonBlaze about one. Once you get that, I can help you with the thieving option.
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Wow, your spriting skills are godly.
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I suggest to add a lil red to your white mage. All white mages seem to have red on them. Usually triangles on the base of the coat/robes.
Also you have a strange approach to character designing. Usually most people have the charset done before the battle set. Especially since you dont like doing sets you might get someone else to do it for you and thier vision maybe slightly differnt from yours and u might have to edit your battle set.
And about the thief learning abilities. I wouldnt make it that hard to learn em. It should just be harder to find the enemies of strong skills Learning should be almost automatic maybe 25-50% chance.
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Ok.....Heres What Im thinking......
At Lvl 1........
Character has a 40%chance of a cucessfull steal.....
Every level after that, bring, as you said, 1% increase
That would be all I need as far as the Theif Goes, now that I think of it.......
If I need to make it harder, Ill use Ryos4's Approach.....
Ryos4:
I agree with you on the Red.....I remembered that every white mage has a bit of red, and some blue
I tried to add blue to the inside of his trenchcoat....but it wasnt vibrant............
Perhaps if I made the pants a dark red? Or his shirt......Or should I leave all that crap as is, And just make inside of his coat red.....
As far as Charset spriting....For the BChars Ive made, Im also working on Congruent charsets........
But ryos4.....I gotta favour to ask you......
I really like the Theif Charset you made me, But Im going to have troubles converting it to a BChar without it looking like its foreign art....Can I send you my template, and get you to do the Bcharset for me?
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Just make the bottom of the cap filled with red triangles. That's how most are.
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The White mage Is kindof a Gunner Multiclass.....
He has no hat....Just red spikey hair.....
A Red Bandana? Witha brighter Blue?
Im going to have to toy with Biggs some more
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K ive been working on the summoner. I got an idea for her clothes. Though i havent done the side view yet. I think the hair may be too little of the difference between the light and dark spots. And a new color choice for her pants.
For white mage:
How about brownish gunner hat, like in FFTA.
And why do you need blue? White mages never have blue, they always have red.
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I like it...
I think A darker colour for the pants is in order.....perhaps the bandana/headress and pants should match......
Here is my whitemage thus far.....Im still in deliberation over the gunner hat....... The Whitemages Character Travels Around witha Dude who is Going to Be wearing a Hat For the majority of the Game.....
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You're graphics are EXTREMELY well done, so I'm definately looking forward to trying out this game.
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I should have a Demo/First Chapter Done By Mid January, At this rate....
Thanks for the props man.....Its appreciated
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K i have three sets of char to chose from. Either that or im gonna have to go another way. Maybe ill make her my favorite combo, orange and blue or something.
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K you forgot your to post your thief, so ill post the one i kept. I kept the bandana on. lol.
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I dont know why, But Im in love with the one far left....
I added a hat....What do you think?
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Looks nice, keep working on it. Looking forward to seeing the demo.
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I think the front pose bill might be too long by one or two pixel.
Yeah thats the horns that the summoners always seem to wear. Though on IX it was actually attached to them.
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Good eye.....
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Those are so good its depressing..... I'm just gonna go delete my sprites and cry in a corner....
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^ agreed... you make mine look like crap... and I considered myself a decent spriter...
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i Redid it and made her top a lil higher. And with the clothes i made and the hair you chose, I noticed it look strangely like Paine. W/e and the middle one is another version.
And zero, you do good FE face sets. I wish i could do those.
Btw u talking about my thief or his gunner/cleric.
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I had a Feeling she Might come off as Payne....the two characters are similar.....
Regardless, I think Youve got a Keeper...
Im thinking I can give her a Big staff, that would be Uniform with all summoners....I can Edit this in though....(Summoner is her primary Jobset...the storyline is going to coerse tha player into Developing this Class most, as staticstically this is What she is Suited for.....I intended her to Come across a Bit more dark than Payne.....in personality that is...
Dont worry about that though......Ill use whatever you have, as Ill need Various Class clothes, and If they are similar, thats Fine.....This Character is Going to Have a "Summon" Menu available throughout the game, so A summoner touch is Invited despite her Class alterations........
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Here Are wedge and biggs, In two Of their Jobset Suits...
Wedge is the tonberry....Hes in Theif and Black mage mode here...
Biggs is the Gunner On the Left...The Top is his White Mage...The Bottom, Blavk Mage......
I still gotta give a Scarf to Black Mage Wedge....but for the Most part, These guys are complate.
Ryos4......The Hat is Great....good idea
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spelling scmelling....Im an Idot on a keyboard (hence the typographical errors)
Looks Good...Thanks alot
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K shes done. Unless theres something wrong with her.
Dude i do alot of scarfs. You want me to put one on?
Edit: i noticed something on the character i had to change. So i deleted the other post.
U can use my other characters for scarf refrence if needed.
Edit2: I just noticed the eye colors are differnt for the side and front. So you choose the eye color.
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Sweet....I made a couple of Edited Versions of your design, I hope You dont Mind......On the Attacment, I have the Version Of Abell that you made, and the 2 others I edited for her Jobsets....
So Now We have, On this set, the Following....
Wedge: Blackmage, Theif
Biggs: White Mage, Black Mage
Abell:Theif?, Blackmage, Summoner
Thank you Ryos4, youre Being a Great Help to my Project, and its Greatly Appreciated....
Thou shalt be Deemed "Character Design Consultant" And "Sprite Production and Design Manager"
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The eye colors on the original are differnt you didnt fix it.
Make The thief top green. And you should remove the horn on them for the non summoner. If u need me to tell me.
I think you should add hats for your classes, it would be that much easier to change them. Just a lil recoloring and a hat.
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Yes, I was aware of the Eyes, Ive since fixed it...thanks.....
I think the green is a good sugestion.....and the horn is going, but Im leaving it on the Black mage and Summoner....I still have to lighten the Hair
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If you feel like it you can use these hats. I Pulled them off my other creations.
Thief, Summoner, Gunner, Warrior, Black Mage, White Mage.
Bandana, Horn, Cap, Helmet, Mage Hat, Circlet.
I was too lazy change the warrior helmets color. You can if you want, i suggest a blue or something. And the black mage hat is generated. So you might want to edit it sligtly to match the others.
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wow man....youre an Immense help.....
those hats will be put to good use......feel free, if you wish, to rip any clothing/accessories from any of my charsets......I owe you some favors........
ryos, have you made any completed games, or are you a resouce kind of fella?
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Na i cant code very well. And i lose interest fairly quickly. Im here just to help people here. I got a game idea but im too lazy.
And i created all but the black mage hat. Ripped means taken from a game.
What you think of Paine?
Damn every time i post something i find something wrong with it. Oh well its fixed now.
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I quite like it......Paine was a kickass character, despite the gay sequel (allthough I gotta say, the gameplay in that was sweet as hell.....if it werent like charlies angel at a japaneese rave, i wouldve actually kept intrest)
Here is my FIRST EVER COMPLETED CHARSET!!!
The only difference is I used the bandana, and added a black mage hat to Wedge, wich I have handy, if you ever need a non-generated Black mage's hat......Once i have some accessories made up, Ill post a sheet of them.......
Again, thanks Ryos.....
One more full charset should cover my immediate needs.....perhaps 2.........then I can get a demo in the works, as soon as I have the coding.......All the other charsets I will need have no class-variance.......
sweeeeeeeet
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Got bored of Charsets....Started working on a Battle animation.....Its still Nowhere near done, But I figured Id post the progress...I usually dont, but whatever.....
Shiva...pixelated and incomplete
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You know what i find odd. In every FF i can remember Shiva was presonified as a woman. When Shiva infact is a male god of Hinduism. Eh Whos to know wtf squaresoft was thinking. The female hindu goddess is called Shakti.
Maybe it was a differnt god.
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The custom graphics are very well made. There anyone for MIDI making yet?
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so far, Ive just been using downloaded midis....I have yet to find a composing program i understand.....I havent met any midi people yet........im newer here...
An origional Score would be killer though.....but I imagine thats a whole lot of work too....
Shakti eh.............*Hrrrm......*
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this is the other charset sheet for my main character jobsets.....I still have to edit the theif into it, but i figured it looked good, so id post the progress.....
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Ill do the thiefs job sets if you dont mind.
Im changing hats and capes color/design.
Oh btw shakti is the goddess of love and what not. She has many forms that are mostly for the male gods. Each male god has a version of shakti as thier "woman". lol.
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I didnt get your post in time...about the theif jobsets.....And by the time I did, I had some edited.....but i would prefer yours....
either way, for giggles'chits heres the set i made with an edited version of your theif.
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Alright heres mine.
You should be able to tell what they are.
If not.
Regular/Summoner/Black Mage
Thief/White Mage/Warrior
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excellent.........thanks dude
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I played around with sylphes design a bit tonight. And with the pony tail thing i had to edit the warrior helm special for this charset. The color of the armor and helm can be changed if you you wanna use this charset. I changed the eyes to Blue because they were too hard to see the same color as her hair.
Im guess with a name like Sylphe its a girl.
Anyway, she has a white scarf thing around her neck. Blue body armor, though i also had a vision of a skin tight top, maybe low cut. lol. And At her feet she has Fully covered leg armor. Going from her thigh to her feet, also blue. And under all her armor she wears a thin layer of black cloth for cushion, i guess.
I also think that the warrior helm on the thief needs to be changed to blue. So ill post the edit after this one. Damnit always after i post it i feel like i need to change it.
Hmm now that i think about it maybe they should do a complete costume change I might recolor the summoner of the cape and horn, maybe gray horn, with a green and yellow cape.
Did you even start anypart of actually making the game yet or just the resources? Cause you might want to start the map, getting the chipsets setup and overall layout of towns/dungeons.
You know what would be neat if you made biggs and wedge a duo. They battle as one. Like when you choose a basic attack, they both charge the enemy. 2 characters playing like one character, and only taking up one party slot. This would allow you to have one more character slot.
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K i started the battle set. I used that guy, Jp i think. His battle set as a guide. I used the pose i made on the thief and just turned his head. You do know with this class system your gonna have to make 5 battle sets for each character right? lol. Anyway the battle set you use is too big. I suggest using jp's one. Much better.
Right now i got the walking left and right, the idle Stance and defence stance. And since im making it, this thief uses dual daggers. Try and stop me! Muahahaha. Btw this guys name is Nigel is that right. Strange name for a guy with red hair.
Btw how goes dreamhunters faceset. I bet you forgot. lol.
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Hey i like this game so far...id like to more of it tho....and i see my template for b-charas i mad a long time ago comes in handy
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Yeah but just as a guide for me. I made my own poses for this. Battle set
Idle, magic, defence, down, attack, walking left and right.
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sweet......Its nice to have help.....
Im afraid my progress may be halted for a few days though.....
Some crappy crap happening.....I may have to go for surgery.....
So my demo release day is more like february.....
Or perhaps ill be stuck at home, and have nothing but time.....
could go either way.....
I like the idea of Hiving the two as a duo........but how would I do the Bcharas and charsets?
Wouldnt they look a bit cluttered?
I might lose some of the cool stuff for the gunner......but during their episode, the two travel in the same party.....they are together the whole game.....
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Originally posted by gemini
so far, Ive just been using downloaded midis....I have yet to find a composing program i understand.....I havent met any midi people yet........im newer here...
An origional Score would be killer though.....but I imagine thats a whole lot of work too....
Shakti eh.............*Hrrrm......*
I am offering to let you hear a few examples of what I can do of MIDI work tomorrow. Music for an aftermath to the Final Fantasy series is my main job, so music for a FF fan game might be working as well.
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I would love to hear some of your work......if it fits, Id love to use it.....
Here is a Edited Charset....Its kindof RTP......but Ive added new angled walls, a woodhatch floor runner....the signs......youll figure it out.....It could still be a touch buggy.....nothing some minor edits wont fix.....Enjoy
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K i been doing math homework for the past 3 hours. Omg i hate working on homework on computers. So fken buggy. I would have finished it in like 30 mins on paper.
Anyway the part one of the set is done.
Idle/magic/def/item/down/attack/walk left/walk right
Though you might need to add some flashes or something to his magic pose. I still need to do the damage pose, the status effects, and what else. hmm i dont know. Any idea what im missing.
Btw what do you think about my attempt at the chick with pink hair.
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I think shes awesome......I like your version of her fighter stance better than mine.....it has more of a variance......Since fighter is her primary jobset, I really want her to stand out when shes in that job, so the effect comes off nicely......
I have to run to the store, then Im coming back.....Im thinking Im going to try my hand at making Scratch Chipsets........see if I can do it........
Im going to need a bit of a template though....Ive never done this before.....Ill scan charas when I return.....Adeiu
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I like your bchars better than mine......Im good with the detail, but I lack at capturing action stances.......
Now Im going to have to change my other bchars so they are on par.......curses!
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K im almost done with my battle set though i need to know what the thiefs personalitly is. So i can make a proper victory pose.
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brooding.......Kindof like a squall type of dude, I guess.....
Quiet.....Introverted.
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Hmm okay. How bout this. The second battle set.
Damage/Charm/Poison/Blind/Silence/Stone/Victory/Frog
I edited the poison look. I think that looks better then a green drop.
Any Problems with it?
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sweetness.......those are impressive....
Ive started throwing a set of maps for the into/demo stages of the game........Ive still got alot of editing.....
Holy crap......Ive still gotta create most of the theif skills....and my summoner has like 2 completed esper groups......but regardless....I should have a very very buggy playable demo within the next couple of weeks......and a postable buggy demo, still by feburary.........unless im reeeeeeaaaaallllllllllyyyyyyyyy lucky......but Its looking bleak for january
And of course, Im still waiting on the CBS, and then more coding after that.....
crap......
All things in time I guess......
I keep forgetting that im not on a deadline for this.
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I was thinking of adding a minigame feature that would basically be A simple Gamling system, but Made to fit the Guise of a Real-Estate, Or comoddity Exchange Market.....Or a Chocobo Race Race.....
you buy in, at an Investment.....an your investment either Makes you Money, You Break Even, Or you lose the Money..
Thing is, I have no freakin clue.....
If I had A standard set of directions to make this, Im sure I could Edit Everything to fit the various shells I have planned.....
But Id like to Have One of the Minigames Implemented for the Demo version of this.....
If anyone has any suggestions, knows of any tutorials, or anything of that nature, Id be appreciative
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K heres sylpheset. Her scarf changes color.
Hey atleast we know of the game does bomb, the graphics will be good and original. lol. With you doing all of your battle animations, and chip sets and if i do all the battle characters and charsets. This will be a pretty good look to it.
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I agree....The graphics will (even if its a horrible, buggy game) keep em coming back.....
The gameplay will come in time....
Here is the template I made of the Main characters faces, Minus Features.....Im going to put all of the games NPCs on here....and have five or six varying sheets, sorted into expressions
If nothing else, they are obviously not RTP or generated
If anyone wants to try the template, feel free.....theres plenty of empty heads on there
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And the other Abell's Set.
All i need to do is The red head dude. And they will be done.
Since it would be a good idea of all the characters were in the same style.
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Im getting the impression that youre having fun with this....
Here are some quick expressions.....I still have some editing to do....more to come
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I guess why is that a problem?
Heres biggs so far i go to go get dinner then ill finish him.
I took off the arms of the coat. And i made one of him without his coat on for reference when i make the rest.
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not even close to a problem......
its encouraging if anything......
Re-edited my shop chipset...I think its bug free now
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and here is the finished product of my world chip set...
Kindof RTP, but then again, it does the job.
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Heres another set for you biggs is done.
Im starting Sylphe Battle set as a warrior. Btw do your warriors hold shields?
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Nono....no shields on the warriors....ive got them using dual weapons.....
thanks though..
Im starting to piece together the opening cutscenes...
Im including a panorama Im working into the cinematic background....
How does a guy capture a screenshot? Ive never really known...Id like to send a shot of the cutscene....
btw....Im not planning on posting every resource, as its made...but untill a demo is produced, I figure this will help illustrate.
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Really why dual weapons? That means i have to make them like thin katanas. Man i got a broad sword already, well atleast a prototype. lol. Here the pic. Hmm thin swords are so boring.
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you are right about the swords....Allright.....I guess the theif IS holding two daggers....so I can make that my dual weapon....
do it up....I like what im seeing
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Oh that reminds me i need to make a steal battleset for the thief. I think ill do that first.
Anyway what do you think is better idle stance.
1.Her sword in the ground with her hand on the top of the hilt.
2.A more basic stance where she holds it infront of her.
3.Cloud based stance with the sword slung over the shoulder.
Or something else?
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Id say either the shoulder or in the ground....
Wichever works best for you, But im thinking the ground, or the shoulder
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Well i changed a bit of stuff on the thief. I moved alot around. You got aim? If not ill post all 3 sets again. U know what ill email it to you. If i can figure out how.
K i guess ill use both. The sword in the ground will be used for magic and item use.
This is what i got so far.
Idle/Magic/Defence/Item/Down/Attack/Walking left and right.
Should i leave the attack like this or take off the the shadow?
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K heres the second set. Added sleep ailment. So i have to add the thief set again. For the last time.
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And heres his 3rd set.
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Sht i forgot to close his eyes so i deleted it.
Idk try post something it in the request and ask them to make it useable. Maybe its the inverted color.
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lol, he's right, none of your battle characters work.
Gem: You'll have to copy paste them to paint and save them that way. It should work doing that.
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The colors are too bright. lol. Oh well its easily fixed i guess. The charsets are probably the same.
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that sounds easy enough.....thanks mang.
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K is there any special skills the warrior has that needs a battle animation? Like the thiefs steal. Cause i still got to make the victory set. I guess when i finish with the warriors set. Ill email the whole set to you along with the thief set, and all the charactersets.
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The fighter has "Last resort" Skills....Similar to limit break....when hp is very low, Last resort menu skills are available....mmmyep.
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What does this skill do or is it a set of skills? Cause its more like battle animation. What do you want the move to look like that initiates the skills.
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Maybee make the dude an animation that is glowing red......VERY much like limit break....the black mage, and summoner also have this ability.
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Example 1 from my own game.
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Another example.
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And the final example for now.
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Like this?
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yepp....thats the one....
Im excited....Im getting all of my theif skills programmed in......and assigning them to the proper monsters.....Finally progress....
DUDE THAT MUSIC IS FREAKING PERFECT FOR WHAT IM LOOKING FOR
its sounds totally authentic to the franchise whilt still distinctly Origional.....Ill use whatever you want to part with.......
could I perhaps bother you to make something mellow, quietish and distinct.....for a dramatic love intrest type scene....with a distinct...."were going to die, maybee we should reproduce" sound to it? (heeheehee.....did that make sense?)
I freaking love those samples though....
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Heres the third part to her set.
"Last Resort"/Victory
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sweet....it looks great.
Instead of having a separate third bchar set for every character, couldnt I just edit them all into on Miscelaneous Victory and Limit break set, to save space? that is doable isnt it?
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I guess i can, Im just making sure its good. Btw the thief doesnt have a limit, he has steal on his extra set.
Also they each have 5 classes. So is that really possible?
Btw what weapon are they gonna use when they dont have a class?
And the summoners weapon is a wand or staff. Or what?
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I guess youre right....now that I think about it.....
When they dont have a class, a simple club.......it has to look crappy......Like a big walking stick, that sucks...or a rusty shortsword or dagger......a crappy weapon, is my cheif concern for the classless character....
A summoner uses a mace/crosseur/Staff type weapon....
Ive decided that Im putting a restriction in place....
When classless, the character may draw from any family of abilities they have learned from (Except steal ability)....they can not learn new abilities when classless....
When in a Class, the character is restricted to its class abilities....
Re-Joining a class after quitting is going to cost money....but one can quit their jobset at any time in field play....
This brings advantages to Being classless.....But the big penalties to it is inability to learn new skills and weapon restrictions..
Im going to update the initial post in this thread with an overview of the class features thus far
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I noticed that alot of my battles sets were not aligned so im editing them.
So what weapon are they gonna use, i mean i cant make them weaponless and i cant make them with 4-5 differnt weapons each unless there other stance are weaponless
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Im going to say.........
Shortsword......Give them shortswords........yessss.......
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Dmn im looking at alot of the battle animation i made and some of them look like crap. I got to do more editing.
Good thing to note that the attack looks great.
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Wow.....This theif skill thing takes along time....When You gotta program in all the fork condition in the montster pages....holy crap....seriously....its a good thing they gave me drugs.
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I just thought of something. How is this a fan game? Besides the classes i see nothing similar to the other games. If you didnt have final fantasy in the name it wouldnt be a fan game. Maybe more people would be interested. Cause most people hate fan games.
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The Character system of course, is a big thing...
When I decided I was going to make this game, I knew I wanted the following:
Summon Spells.....Cool ones..
Stealing
Blue Magic
Character classs/job system....
My own story told through a rpg format that a non-die-hard gamer can easily realate to...
I realized that most people hate fangames....
But I think that the characters and story will provide for a Fangame that dosent blow chunks....In fact, I think people will end up liking it....Its got enough of the familiar stuff to let you pick up on it without much thought, but as with the other ff instalments, the ability system takes its own direction, making the game distinct from others.
At first, I wasnt going to use the FF format, but the more I thought about how I wanted the game to play out, the closer it was to a FF game, and I was begining to realize that Unless it were a fangame, it would be a horrible ripoff....
I guess I Could take the Name Final Fantasy off of the title...but everybody will know after playing 3 minutes of the game that it is obviously a final fantasy themed game.....
If you cant beat em join em....I guess...
I should have a survey....
"Should This dude Call it a fangame despite the fact that people hate fangames, or just Call it something different, despite the fact that it is designed to play out like a Final fantasy Game?"
Do you think that question is worthy of a thread?
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The guild system was in none of the games.
The way you learn the abilities is nothing like final fantasy. More like breath of fire and teachers.
The thief and white mage are nothing like any of those in final fantasy.
Learning the enemy skills are a differnt way from final fantasy. Breath of fire also uses enemy skills.
If you called the jobs (summoner,white mage, ect) something differnt it wouldnt be like final fantasy. Alot of games have job or classes.
Stealing is common in all games. And so is summoning, just dont use the basic summoning names or looks and it will be fine.
Also that thing about highering help, which sounds really stupid to be in an rpg, and i have no idea how it will work. They would take up a spot in the party, unless you incorparate them into an item or skill. Overall its a bad idea. And it is also not in any of the final fantasys i played.
If you get rid of the tonberry or change it to a differnt type of monster or character, and not name the guy biggs. It should be all good.
Anyway here is the wand i was thinking for the summoner.
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Originally posted by gemini
yepp....thats the one....
Im excited....Im getting all of my theif skills programmed in......and assigning them to the proper monsters.....Finally progress....
DUDE THAT MUSIC IS FREAKING PERFECT FOR WHAT IM LOOKING FOR
its sounds totally authentic to the franchise whilt still distinctly Origional.....Ill use whatever you want to part with.......
could I perhaps bother you to make something mellow, quietish and distinct.....for a dramatic love intrest type scene....with a distinct...."were going to die, maybee we should reproduce" sound to it? (heeheehee.....did that make sense?)
I freaking love those samples though....
Well, I'll be reachable on Star Scape (http://star-scape.org.uk)'s forum, so you could request some stuff from me there, I'm Dark Knight on it.
At first, I wasnt going to use the FF format, but the more I thought about how I wanted the game to play out, the closer it was to a FF game, and I was begining to realize that Unless it were a fangame, it would be a horrible ripoff....
Big deal. The reason I'm not calling my project Final Fantasy is because it plays after the histories of many FF games and even after the destruction of Earth. Would I have reason to call it FF?
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Allright.....Ive weighed the options....the arguments.....
Given it some thought...
Youre right....It makes sense......
(By the way, that weapon is perfect)
Ill have to scrap the chocobo and mog summons....but thats kindof minor.....Ill have to Make a new Title screen....But again...Minor.....I guess that will create a bit less work for me in some aspects....As for the Tonberry thing, in the story line, The tonberry character was going to turn out to be a Genian (artificially created lifeform), rather than an authentic tonberry anyhow....
That being said, I will Cange the name of the Game, and this thread.....And really....The Wedge character wont have to be changed alot in appearance, as he needs to look funny aqnyhow....
The Black Mage will now be Refered to as a "Genomancer"..Same Crap....different name, and it ties the magic thing into the story better
However, I need new names...For A) Wedge and Biggs B)Many of the cities, areas and NPCharacters.....
isnt there a name generating thread?
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There is a tool somewhere called Zorn's Rm2k tool. Maybe you should google that, although the RPG Resource Kit might be of help..
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So how does the title apply to the game. Its been bothering me for a while. Gemini is third zodiac constellation represent the twins Castor and Pollux, i think thats the right names. W/e i would like to know how this name ties into the game.
Anyway im having problems with the summoner shes pissing me off. Taking alot longer to decide her battle poses. I got some of them done.
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To explain this, I have to drop some storyline...
Okay....WORLD HISTORY.....en
From Beginning of Recorded history..
-Unrecorded times....Nothing is known about this time, Except that The only Race of Uprights to walk the earth were the Humans....One theory of Creation, Is that in their civilization's Height, Humans Gave Birth to The Major Races, With a New, and Unstable form of Magic, Now Buried away, to save the world from its uncontrollable power....but in the earliest Stages of its discovery, the Humans Used the Magic to Create The Other "Uprights"....The Dwarves....for Intense Labour, bred for Endurance, stamina, And constitution, And Elven.....Bred for Superior Communication skills and sensory perception.....
All that is Known After this point, Is that the World Grew unstable....The "Alpha" or "First" Magic started having Random Effects....Creating a species of its own, The Genians, before Throwing the weather systems and Continents Out of Whack....And Inciting A great Racial War....At various times throughout this War, The Major Upright Species Fought among Eachother, But the General Fear of the Alpha Magic, Meant the focus of all the Races Wraith Was the Genians.....
Then, After 1000 years of War, The Racial Council Set up, as a Means Of monitoring, and Upholding the Rights of All species....
The Racial Councils First Objective, Was to Seal Away the Alpha leA horrible Mutation, Constructed of Something Refered to As "The Gemini Strain" A freak Cellular Mutation, That is Damn Near, But not Quite Perfect, as it was unstable, albeit indestructable.....
So The Alpha Magic, Along with the Gemini Strain, Was sealed, since destruction was impossible.....
When Gemini Sealed, The races Divided the Types of Magic, Now Bred Into Every species, Some more than others, Into A Class system, And it was decided that Every Magic Class Were do Be governed, and the Guilds Were Created......
Over time, The Racial Council, Led the world Into peace....And led the Memory of Th gemini Strain, and Alpha Magic into fable....The devices used to seal the Magic, Were Eventually forgotten about, and the public simply recognized them as the rememnant Relics of Societies Long Forgotten....
With the Establishment of the Guilds, And the Prevalent Supervision of the Racial Council, the world is kept in order....Peace........
1200 years later the story begins....The world, Is now Completly Mapped, Accurately......Ancient Technologies, unearhted are Deciphered, and Machines, Robotics And other benifits to society are taken for granted....
Trade is Frequent, But despite the advancement, The racial Council is Left behind, in the Worlds Advancement......
The Classes are now Fragmented....Individual Bands of Adventurers, Known as Guilds Scatter the Land, Looking For Adventure, But usually only finding Manual Labour.....
The world is Generally Peacefull, allthough slightly restless..
And then, Strange Crap Unfolds, some say it is the Awakening of Gemini.....(Who is Actually Two Creatures) But None Give any real credit to this theory......
A moarchy of the Biggest Human Empire, is thrown into shady dealings....The King is Inferile....Must have an Heir.....
He Cuts a deal with a super sketchy Wizard, That Makes Him fertile.........at an Undisclosed price....not mentioned....
The King Has twins......One Heir to the Throne, David, And Another Mathue (Who goes missing on an Expidition as a Teen, Never to Return)
This is Where the Game starts
After all kinds of mysterious Events, The king is Usurped, Before David Can take the Throne....The Monarch is in Chaos......And Prince David is presumed Dead.....Duro, An Entertainer of the Origional King, Takes the throne, and Screws Everything up as Bad as He can.....And when the public is Eager for a new leader, Mathue, The Prince, Mysteriously Returns from the dead....With a New advisor, the Sketchy Wizard from Before....Named Tahl-Hinas.....
Shenanigans Ensue, The Sepian Knights, Our Heroes, End up finding themselves smack in the middle of this Mess...trying to Figure out the mystery binding all of the seemingly unrealted events, and In the end, Preventing Gemini From unleashing Alpha,
and finding a way to stop this threat, Once and for all
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Hmm i would have never expected this game to be a war story. But w/e. You didnt really have to explain it like that you could have said something alot less complex.
Anyway heres the first set complete. Now to test it on rpg maker.
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lol....I guess I kindof went off there
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K everything looks good cept the idle stance. You want me to email you all the complete sets since i edited them alot. Since last i attached them.
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do you have msm? I could log onto that..... (knives_are_quiet@yahoo.com is my handle)
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Nope i use aim.
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Eamil it is then.... 8)
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Crap i just emailed it to you and i just found a few things wrong with a few sets. lol. Dmnit.
The thief is all good. But some of the warriors alignment is off. And the summoners magic stance 3rd has one pixel too far to the left, the pink one at the very left needs to be deleted. Im not sure but the summoners victory pose might need to be looked at also.
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So....Some Updates, On various Crap regarding this project.
Wedge, The Tonberry-like Black Mage, Is now Vagren, the Chronomancer
Biggs, the Whitemage, Is now Lionel, The gunner-Mage
Instead of "Cid Garland" Being the Sepian Knight's Communications Officer, garrisoned, his name is "Troy Hoen" and Im changing his character traits slightly....Not that ive gotten into him....but I guess Ill give some words...
Troy Hoen is an Old dude....He used to be an adventurer...really sucessfull one....He now runs the show for the Sepian Knights, as the Communications Officer at the Groups Headquarters....Hes a bit Crazy, and Rambles off about his prime alot....Hes bitter.
He is like Uncle Ricco from napoleon dynamite, meets the Coach from Dodgeball....but put into a Horribly dramatic setting....He is going to provide alot of the Humor....He takes himself VERY seriously, but really hes just a washed up old dude, trying to relive his glory days....
He has a Big moustache.
He has no Legs....and rambles on alot about finding that "Bitch Wyvern queen that robbed him of his legs...." He ends up sending the group on a Big Chase, and lying about it....often lying about mission objectives, to pursue a Hunch on the "Bitch wyvern queen"
Later on, He designs the first Non-Military, Transport Airship and Pilots it around.
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I actually think you should keep this a Final Fantasy.
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You are the Only person that has said that......I thought It would work well, Myself...but either way.....
Perhaps Ill release a Final Fantasy Edition after the Game is Made, and see wich one goes over better....
I should put a Special Features Option in the title....Have a FF edition...Special Edition, With Commentary....Cencored....It will be like a overproduced DVD....
Or perhaps Not......
of course I get FF support AFTER making the change.....Either way.....Its still pretty much going to run the same as a FF game would....And If I still feel the need, Ill make a Fangame after this one is done.....After all, this is my first serious project....I plan on seeing this one through untill the very bugless end...
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THe only real reason I would make an FF game is so I have an excuse to put in Moogles, black mages, and chocobos.
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Im all about the Tonberrys Cactuars, And the FatMogandChocobo.
Whatevs.....Ill keep them in the Game....Make them Super secret abilities that you gotta unlock or cheat for.......
The tonberry is a final Fantasy Creation right? I mean, Its got no prior story does it? Does it appear in any other fantasy titles? If it does...Im all over it....
Werent Mogs in Secret of Mana too?
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They wernt really same things though. Besides that was also a game made by squaresoft.
Btw what do u mean by play like a "final fantasy." How does a game play like final fantasy? none of the more recent final fantasys play the same. Besides half of the FF dont even have class choosing & changing.
Wait you changed the black mage to a time mage? Theres a big difference between those 2 you do know that right.
Dmn all the battle sets you need are gonna take hella long. I did 3 in about 2-3 weeks. Omg lol. And you need like 36 battle sets in all. its gonna take like almost 4-5 months to make em all. Lol.
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I CAN do some of the Battlesets......
If you wanted, you could Maybee send me a Bare bones Battleset,or a template of the main characters, and I can Edit them Into Finishing.....I can Align them as well..... Not to Mention Finishing touches......I dont want to dump more work on you than youre willing to do....
What I meant by "Plays like Final Fantasy" is that The Classes I HAD chosen, And the Abilities Entailed With Them were reminiscent of A FF title.. and the Condition/Status Changes are all besed on the Ones Familiar to FF games.....Also, The Story Progression, as it unfolds, are very reminiscent of what you would see in a FInal Fantasy Game......
My brain is geared away from the FF now though....
The Chronomancer thing sounds like a bigger step then it actually is.....Along with Black Magics, Like your standard Fire/Fira/Firaga I was going to throw some more specialized spells dealing with time/space themes.....
Alot of People hear "Time mage" Anbd think immediately......Haste....Stop ...Slow..
But the story line plays out, in a Non linear format, Jumping around from Chapter to Chapter.....Alot of Flashbacks, Flash-forwards.....And Rich with Cutscenes..... So the Chronomancer will help aid in the progression of this aspect of the story....
Secondly......Think Physics.......Time and space, of course go Hand in Hand...."Time" is really just an abstracted measurement of Space.....
My "Chronomancer" Commands Magic Relative to Time and Space.....So I am open to new kinds ofd offensivemagic....
were talking quantum physics.....Sub-atomics.....matter displacement......but adapted into a Fantasy-Friendly Spell....
(Its sad, I actually have thought about the Scientific theory to back up the Existance of Magic in the Game world.....)
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Your getting dangeriously close to the whole idea of alchemy, the magic that involves science. lol. And chrono does mean time. So what do u expect people to think.
And the way i see it, time really cant be measured in the real sense. You can try to describe it, try to measure it, but no one yet to my knowledge knows what time can be described as.
Anyway, you could add gravity spells and comet. You could add a spell that skips the enemies turn, call it time gap or time skip. If that is possible. If you decide to make him have space magic, you could use spells like reverse gravity.
You can make the non class battle characters first. And make all of the previously wedge characters battle sets. I rather not make a non human battle sets.
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Good point with the Alchemy......Something to consider for Ability Names.....
The reverse gravity thing is cool....I like that Idea.....
I wanted to Have A Microcosm spell (Teeny tiny Black Hole)
Time, In the sense that we experience is a strictly perceptual thing.....this is proven in E=mc2....An astronaut in space for 6 months can come back and Have missed Years, Or weeks.....However, Time in the Mathmatic sense is a term used to desrcrib Large-*** distances......and is a constant........its like Pi in a way....or Km/h....Its a Multiple factored Unit of Measurement....And this is fact.......Hence, Time does Exist....
(heehee...not trying to sound preachy, but I often have this discussion with a buddy of mine over "smoke-breaks" at the shop.
Alchemist sounds Cool.....So Does Chronomancy....
Every Character has a Secondary set of specialized skills, So I can have the character use both....that would be Kickass.....
So I'll make the Neutral B-Char Sets....And All of the Non-Human ones........is that what youre saying? Thats cool, But if youd Like more or less work, Let me know.
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Your just saying time is a way to measure movement. And if that was true then you would be able to measure movement both ways. In which time would have to go backward. Which is not possible. However this isnt always true. It is possible to see back in time over vast distances. Like if you use a very power telescope. If you look at an object 1 light year away, you wouldnt see it as it is but as it was 1 year ago. Though viewing and going back is much differnt. I rather not get into deep discussions about this kind of crap because i got finals now and i rather not waste brain cells, or time on this.
If your gonna make the charset, i suggest using Insane Jp Template and not the one you edited. Cause if made larger, you would have to do alot of editing and it wouldnt be even looking. And probably use my charsets as a base, and copy and paste alot of it. I suggest using paint cause using idraw on such a small scale is pretty much pointless. And makes you use too much effort on something that can take only mins. Oh and if your planning on it flowing good you better not do any large scale editing to the way they look, none at all would be best.
Oh and about the gunner, unique style guns or like modern day weapons. And it would be interesting if you could make an idle stance, and attack animation thats different for each character. The the other animation can be the same, but differnt will make the game more interesting. That is what takes me so long to come up with.
Oh and i got a final on monday, tuesday, and friday. So i might not be able to help you much this week. And next 2 weeks im gonna be at home, so i wont have this website on my fav list on the other comp, so you might want to email it to me, or i wont be able to help you at all. Either that or just dl aim for the 2 weeks, it dont matter, i just dont like msn.
And if your gonna use alchemy, its gonna be quite a deal to make the system work. Because, in alchemy, you can only use what is around you in the surroundings. Kinda like a geomancer. Which would screw the characters at some points. Like if there in an artic area, where all the monsters are ice based, the alchemist could only use ice based attacks. Which wouldnt make him a very good class to lug around.
If you want to, you do all of the battle sets for vagren, and lionel. And i guess the rest for Abell. I feel like making the the rest of sylphe and nigel. It would be so much easier if you got 3 more people and we each did one character. That way they would all look original to a certain extent, Allow them to adjust the costumes as they see fit. To make it like the class system in FFX2, where each character has a look for each of there classes, non of them the same.
Doing all these char and battlesets make me want to do my own game again. lol. Or atleast start up on my manga again. W/e. That is what i call ranting.
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do whatever you feel like doing man....youre a big help either way.......
Perhaps I should Start a Thread, seeing if there are any other spriters who would like to get in on the Action....For the Sake Of B. Characters.......
I'll get Vargas and Lionel Going using Jp's Templates, very soon...Im mapping out the World of the game right now, so Ill finish that first.....Im looking forward so seeing what you can come up with for Nigel And Sylphe...
Sometime soon Ill make a Request Thread for this Job....you are right....Its too big a Job right now with just You and I...we need more Spriters...ones that are good.
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The Town Chipset Edit I made for the Game
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And the Mountaintop/Winter town
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I have time on wednesday and thursday to do battle sets, so im gonna make Nigels Warrior and maybe his summoner. Im gonna finish him first. Him being my favorite character thus far. Though his charset is a lil fucked up, when he walks up his cape doesnt move. You might wanna fix that. I might change the look of his warrior a bit.
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no problem........im looking forward to it
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I edited the cape and the warrior helm. For nigel.
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I really Like that Helmet.....
Ive included the Mountain Bridge Chipset Ive made/edited....
after this Im not posting any more chipsets....I gotta keep some suprises.....Ive since edited some new treats into my other maps...
I now Have 5 Custom Chipsets made.....yay
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Heres what i got so far for the warrior. The second set is alraedy done.
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sweet....The helmet looks radical as a Bchar too
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Ive figured out alot of the Coding that previously eluded me....
Ive Got the World Map for the First Chapter/Demo Complete, and Ive got smaller maps and and Working on a town, Linked up...
Ive started doing all of the Abilities from Scratch...Not all of the Animations are done....(Not nearly)
But nonetheless......
The Gemini Strain, Is running...The Battle System Works....
I still have yet to figure out how to program in the last resort attacks, If anyone who is any good at coding could lend an Ear, and some advice that would be super.....
The Summon Abilities arent coded as in-depth as Id like them, But for now theyll do.....
But the Game runs, Allthough Bare-boned right now.....
The Maps are looking really nice....Ive suprised myself with them.
By Late Dec/New Years, Ill probably be looking for some beta testers for the Demo.
FahkYeah
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Does anyone Have any Ideas for Unique Vehicle Ideas? Im looking for....Unusual
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Is it a group or single man vehicle? because if its one man you could use the steamboy vehicle. Where the rider sits inside of the wheel, the wheel moves but the rider is stationary.
Heres one of the pics i could find of it. For some reasons links dont work so well on this forum anymore. So just copy and paste on the url.
http://img.mysan.de/mymovies/ffn/03/steamboy/Steamboy_12.jpg
Something like that though maybe something that looks less craptacular.
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I do need a single man vehicle.....I shall use it.....I also Need a shallow water vehicle, Deep water vehicle.....Ice vehicle (for super cold, multi man.....were talking, insta-freeze cold) and 2 Kinds of airship....one for traveling at low altitudes, and one for inter-continental flight....
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it looks simplistic....but its for dramatic effect....
I was going for absractish graphic-from-a-creepy-psycological thriller idea......Either way.....if they suck horribly, tell me in PM...
there is no pretty pictures because I want to build up as the intro scene progresses....wich by the way, is half done....WHOOO!
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and the chapter into
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A screen shot edit of the first world map....there are six in total.....five continents, and one scrolling world map linking them....this is the first one....for the demo.
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A summon spell in the works.......
for a golem.....theres alot more to do yet....
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*clap*
You've done a pretty good job with the RTP in that map, man.
The BA is'nt bad either ^_^
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G-g-g-g-g-g-golem...... *Dies*
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you have some good talent there Gemini. Must be nice to make your own titles, and battle animations. Wish I could make my own battle animations...
I really like the title you made, looks unique and very kewl. Keep up the good work and hope to see your demo soon.
:flower:
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for being RTP, that map is pretty desent. However, it's a 'bit' mountainous toward the bottom.
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the mountainous area on the bottom is supposed to be a huge erroded-crater mountain....this part of the world map is a bit more scattered and random than the other maps I have....they are still on paper though...
I did alot of slight adjustments to try and make the RTP better...
Im hoping to make the dungeons very unique....moreso than the world chips.....
Ive done alot of efiting to the other chipsets to tell the truth....the continental overworld chipset is kindof basic...less is more
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the almost finished animation set for my golem summon
His hands float mysteriously
Im going to add a big pile of rocks, for him to sprout out of
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another mostly finished summon
(Im refraining from putting the fully completed work here....Id like there to be some suprises when the game is actually played
This one, Is Thanatos
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And a third set in progress....
(a series of four, in total, for the demo....Alot more after I work on the later chapters)
Flanbeast Summon Animation
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your summons are very original. great stuff.
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Agreed, keep it up, I can't wait for the game
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Well, they look good, but I've got a problem with the names. Thontos is the name of Ramus's thunder, Golem is ff6 summon and classic enemy (I really don't care about golem to much, I mean the name) , flan is an FF monster ONLY, and... yeah. You don't want it to be a fan game, so my suggestion would be to stop naming them after FF stuff, that's all.
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That first Flanbeast is amazing! What do you use to make these summons, man?
Overall, this looks great, so keep it up.
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Flan are found in other fantasy aside from FF....its Jelly....Flan is....and the flan beast pukes jelly aaaat people...
Golem is just the animation name I used...still speculative.
and as for thhanatos....
thats a name from roman mythology.....
thanatos, in literature, is usually a death incarnate, but i appreciate your concern....8)
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>_< Wow, I must've sounded really dumb back there. I completly forgot that Final Fantasy got all it's names and stuff from Roman and Greek Myths, so in a sence, you're copying the myths, not the game. Sorry for being so blind.
But... I still don't know anyother game aside from FF that has Flan.
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I'm not certain but I think Grandia might have had flan
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flan is just another word for jelly...
Its a word commonly found in Briitish Culinary....food that is....western european....
flan is jelly.....the flanbeast spits jelly goo-vomit.......
I use MSPaint and iDraw to make these dudes...
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Yeah, I know flan is a food. In spain, it's custard, in britan, it's jelly, and in mexico it's carmel. I'm just saying, I don't know any other game that has the jelly/flan/custard enemies.
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Hm... culinary cretans... :p
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I thing the bubble monsters in Landstalker (sega genesis) were called flan......
seriously though, I appreciate the criticism...it helps.....
Heres an update of the flaaan, with mouth open.....I havent added the vomit yet.
Im hungry for european deserts now.....
I have some cookies somewhere....hmmm
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Very nice. You are definitely an experienced artist. No doubt.
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Allright....I said Id post Charset examples of the Players I need Made Into Bchar sets....
Attached, Is the work that hasnt been started yet....
There are 3 characters here.....Lionel....Redhair Abell...Grey Hair and Sylphe....Pink hair.
they are displayed in the Jobsets they will be changing in and out of.....
The ones I need for the Demo, The priority ones...are the neutral Jobsets....the examples in wich the characters ar not wearing hats.
There are 2 others as well, but Ryos4 and I have those covered.....
In earlier posts, I believe there should be examples of the Bchar animations that Ryos4 did....these are all of the staus afflictions, and all that crap.....
If anybody wants to leand their services to the project, Credit, a townname, and return services will gladly be given....
If you need to take liberites with the design concept, please discuss them first, so I can work the charsets around it....
We are currently using insanejps Bchar templetes, accesable through the resource search engine here on the site......
Please, any help is awesome, as Im running behind with the animation.....
Any help given, is great, and if you like, you can jouin the beta tester list aswell....
sweet
the Jobsets are as follows
Neutral
Warrior
Gun-Mage (White mage)
Chronomancer (Black mage)
Theif
Summoner/Totemancer
PS......If anyone does do any of this, please, dont worry about doing any staus affect change animations....These are getting changed....Ill edit them myself...Im not in a rush to make the effect changes...
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I could help you with b-chars. The game look good and all, really nice summonns.
Well how many and what classes are in your game?
And wich one of them should i do?
(BTW i canīt access the main forum site and therefor i canīt check my PMīs...)
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The Classes in the Game are:
Neutral/Classless
Theif
Gunner Mage
Chronomacer
Warrior
Totemancer(summoner)
I need whatever sets you want to do, of the three characters in my previous post....Ive included a couple of view of them in their various Jobsets..
A trick I found for Checking PMs....
Go into any forum you have postd in before.....And find your post...Then Click Profile under your sig.....then go into the PM inbox sub-menu.....
WHOOO!
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I attached the Party's Starting Vehicle in the game....
it looks Ugly....but its supposed to
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hey, you still keeping the skill thief stuff? If so, you should come up with a better name then thief. How's about:
Defalcator
Kleptomaniac
Larcenist
Purloiner
Those are all cooler ways to say thief, and it makes them look like they've got a professional title.
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DUDE! your totally right....
I like your names you gaave, but im going to build off of them....Kleptomancer pperhaps or Larcenomancer..
One of the 2....Wich sounds cooler?
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I always thought rogue was a good alternative to theif, but what do I know?
Larcenomancer sounds like Lardomancer, who uses the incredible magic of lard to fatten enemies. Yeah, I'd go with Kleptomancer.
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this is the crappy vehicle you get in the begining of the game.
Vehicles are now a very imperative part of the gameplay...
The Vehicles name, is Jalopy-5
Its a transport unit.....
the Charset for it on the last page
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The Kleptomancer sounds better because the other one means a more direct apporche to theft, like physical, and it looks to much like lancomancer to me.
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I agree Kleptomancer sounds cool. Like a Swedish Metal Band.
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Originally posted by gemini
I agree Kleptomancer sounds cool. Like a Swedish Metal Band.
Yeah maybe it does... But i donīt think that there are any rock bands with a "-mancer" in the end really... At least no oen that iīve heard.
But you have a chronomancer and a totemancer...
Never mind.
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I see your point....hmmm....I need a better term for summoner.
That will ease the redundance
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a gondola chipset
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en? Isn't a gondola a small row boat?
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Originally posted by Meiscool
en? Isn't a gondola a small row boat?
Yes, but it's actually a big row boat.
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I was a Naval Cadet, and never heard of a Boat refered to as a Gondola.......Then Again, I AM canadian.....
A gondola is a Transport unit, suspended by cables, that takes you to the top of a mountain.....aka....Tram....or Tramway....Gondola......
nevermind.
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Screenshoot1
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Screenshot2
Im noticing that the color looks different in the screenshot....the tiles look choppier.....meh.....just means more crap to fix
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Well, for it looking a lot like RTP it's pretty good.
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Great screenies
I canīt see anything wrong with them exept for some colour mess up...
How about the battles? Got any screenies of them?
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soon....Alot of my Bcharset animations are still very buggy or pending , so Im holding off on them....
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A new Bcharset...for Lionel....
One more Bchar, and I have enough stored to give battle screenshots.......
Anyways, this is the first part...I got another sheet to do yet
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Looks like you have the right idea on map making, but you can't do it really well in RTP without the "AGH! MY EYES!" Effect. At least, not in type of layout (overboard layout).
EDIT: When you make B-Animations, do you draw them and then directly sprite on top, make em from scratch, color and resize, or what?
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Right now, Im making them by editing the Charsets Ryos4 made me.....but the ones I posted in the first pages of the thread, were done with a templete I modified, and detailed/clothed from scratch.......
Here is the Status Change sheet
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Looks like you have the right idea on map making, but you can't do it really well in RTP without the "AGH! MY EYES!" Effect. At least, not in type of layout (overboard layout).
EDIT: When you make B-Animations, do you draw them and then directly sprite on top, make em from scratch, color and resize, or what?
I agree. Though Rudra and Mac and Blue and greatly over used, they would be a better pic for something like this. I mean, it's great that you want to make custom chips for your game and stuff, but perhaps you should just stick with already made stuff and edit to your liking, that's what I do.
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Im making new chipsets right now....the oother ones were kindof crappy....Im keeping the worrld set, allthough editing it....
Im using ripped FF6 graphics, and some other stuff, but my maps are getting better now....here is the latest chipset....it seems to work bug free.....
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Sry dude got alot of stuff to do this xmas break. Alot more then i thought. Idk if ill be able to do more for the next few weeks. Besides i dont have any of my charsets i made for you here. Starting from scratch blows. lol. Though im sure ull only really need one bset for each character for the demo. More would be better but one is do able.
I might not come back for a while. Having explorer here making hard to navigate. So gl with that. And btw sweet flan summon.
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I just returned from holidays myself...
sleepy and hungover....maybee Ill get some work done and posted tonight....I cant even remember where I left off right now
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A simple panorama I made....I figured Id post it.....myep
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Im not online anymore, wich is why there has been nothing posted on this thread.
If, for some reason, anyone is still interested......here is where the game is right now.
Im using all homemade chipsets......with about 8%RTP content, because im still kindof lazy......the maps look sweet......very
'cartoony'....some friends have made comparisons to earthbound for the chip graphics, but I dont see it.
In about a week, a playable demo will be beta tested .......
But not online.......I moved, and cannot get high speed internet in my new house......its in the country. So one day, I dont know when, Ill drop an Alpha-mode Playable Demo....
For more info, see the opening post of this, Im about to go edit it now.
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Man that sucks, I was looking forward to this game alot.
Well good luck out there in the country.
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Lookin good.
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well, hopefully you get that demo out somehow. It sound and looks promising. goodluck
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THe first post makes it look like you stole everything, but the rest seams to show a great game. Good job.
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So....Im still offline....but with luck, Ill be in a new house, with Highspeed, Mid april.....
Upon beta testing the origional version, I found I was lacking congruency........
This, being my first game to actually be played by anyone other than myself, is going to be as close to perfect as my abilities allow......
That being said, Im changing quite a bit in terms of mapping, and coding.....
Ive manged to grasp variables.....so alot more fun crap is in game now....
As well as origional pencil art throughout the game.....
Its going really well.....and its alot bigger than i even imagined it would be.....
Turns out my "Playable demo" is going to be about 5 hours of solid gameplay, along with about 5 more hours of unlockable....
But its doubtfull that anyone is even interested anymore......
Either way, In a month or so, your all going to get to play the demo.....Im pretty confident that if I had kept this a fangame, it wouldve been the one that wasnt sucky.....
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So you might come back?
And yeah I can wait a month for the demo. Not much else to say...
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Yes, definatly......
Ive been absent for medical, financial, and divorc-ical reasons...
I shant get into it too much.....thats why I have a myspace page.
But yeah....A month....Give or take a couple of weeks....
Ive got to go out of town for a spell......to tattoo people at a carnival.......and when I return, I should have posession of a new house......in an actual town......not the boonies....with a roomate who isnt a ex-fiancee who has sex with my friends and.....sorry.
The game is coming along.....
Before I actually post a demo, Im going to need a beta tester other than myself, one with a good grasp on variables.....
For the most part Ive got them down, but Id like some input from others.....
This demo/Game/installment is part one of three.....
All three parts run parallel to a graphic novel ive been working on for umpteen years......So its then a "Paraquel"
As soon as Im back online, however.....I will post all of my chipsets, and character sprites......And facesets......these things have all benn made from scratch....the chipsets are easy to use.....and i feel that for the help ive gotten from this forum, Im going to make all of my resources public.....
yup
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The demo will be up and running in a week or so...Im still not online at home, and the public computer nazis wont let me upload my stuff on their Computers.
So........
If anyone wants a copy of the Demo version, and I mean....REALLY wants a copy......
I guess I can snail mail out a Burnt copy.
But seriously....this game is frikkin sweet.
Actually, it sucks, but it looks origional, and has a kickass story, and its replay values has kept even myself up untill 5 am.
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I could post it up for you if you send my a copy, and looking foward to playing this game!
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Im kinda interesting on how its coming along with your original charsets. lol.
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There is still a little bit of gathered RTP and ripped graphics in the chipsets.....Like in some of the smaller objects, chairs and such....the odd grassy-autotile.....but even that crap has been recoloured and blended and such......
If you want me to mail a copy, Get in touch on my emails
knives_are_quiet@yahoo.com
ff_gemini_effect@yahoo.com
or my myspace....
myspace.com/knivesarequiet