Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 05:33:56 PM
Silly me blurts out, "Well I don't know why they'd be closed. I don't think there is anything about December 7th..."
Customer: "Well, Pearl Habor."
Me: ... d'oh!
So yeah, another one of those think before you speak moments. Luckily the guy understood that I was just braindead this morning, and that I wasn't a dick belittling the event.
Anyways, thought I'd share.
Post by: dragoninja on December 07, 2005, 05:42:53 PM
I didn't know, thanks for alerting me. d(^^')
Post by: Almeidaboo on December 07, 2005, 06:10:27 PM
Post by: dragoninja on December 07, 2005, 06:46:34 PM
War = death
Death = sad
Sad = not meant to be celebrated, but to be cheered up...
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 07:40:52 PM
But no, this is a "day of infamy" as it was once put. I don't put a lot of emphasis on it, but some people do. It isn't really a celebration, but a day of memorial for the events of the past and those who died on this day.
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Iīm not from the States...i canīt really say anything! But donīt think I didnīt notice your thread buddy! :cow:
Can't say I really know how to take this comment, so
Post by: dragoninja on December 07, 2005, 07:47:31 PM
Ok, thanks for informing me.
Post by: MrMister on December 07, 2005, 08:19:11 PM
Post by: Drace on December 07, 2005, 08:30:55 PM
#2. You Americans have way to many holidays and special days.
Post by: Darkfox on December 07, 2005, 08:33:37 PM
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#2. You Americans have way to many holidays and special days.
Stuff happened and stuff. Know what I mean?
But seriously we don't have THAT much stuff.
Post by: blackskullwarlock on December 07, 2005, 08:33:59 PM
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#1. CANADIANS HAVE THEIR OWN HISTORY?!?!?!?!?!?!
Believe it or not, we do. It sucks because politic is boring. Final.
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 09:02:11 PM
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#2. You Americans have way to many holidays and special days.
I guess we just like to party hard. Keep your children away from us, lest you want them to pick up on our bad influences. :D
Post by: Drace on December 07, 2005, 09:16:26 PM
There's New Year, we have that.
Easter, we have that.
April Fools, we have that.
4th of July, we don't have that.
Halloween, we have something like that.
Thanksgiving, we don't have that.
Christmas, we have that AND another allmost-the-same-one-of-which-santa-is-ripped-off in the same month.
Then you also have Pearl Harbor, we don't.
And I recall one where you have to wear something green or something, we don't have that.
Any I forgot? Well, probably a dozen or so.
Post by: Razor on December 07, 2005, 09:20:08 PM
Don't forget those two days celebrating veterans, one of which being veteran's day.
And there's got to be one day just called "America Day"
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 09:32:13 PM
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Well I mean. Let's name em by what I know.
There's New Year, we have that.
Easter, we have that.
April Fools, we have that.
4th of July, we don't have that.
Halloween, we have something like that.
Thanksgiving, we don't have that.
Christmas, we have that AND another allmost-the-same-one-of-which-santa-is-ripped-off in the same month.
Then you also have Pearl Harbor, we don't.
And I recall one where you have to wear something green or something, we don't have that.
Any I forgot? Well, probably a dozen or so.
Well, not all of them are holidays. Some of them are just important dates to remember. I particularly don't consider it a holiday if I don't get off of work for it. I also don't consider something a celebration unless there is some kind of partying happening. December 7th isn't necesarrily celebrated nor do I think it is recognized as a holiday. It is more like Veterans Day or Memorial Day.
Also, keep in mind that the US is a melting pot of sorts, with many different cultures all living under one roof. While certain holidays like Thanksgiving and Independance Day (July 4th) have a direct relation to US history, other holidays are simply Americanised.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 07, 2005, 09:36:45 PM
No offense.
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 09:42:36 PM
EDIT: Oh, and those other holidays, liek st patrick's day, someone already mentino this, but yeah, America is a big mixture of cultures, and the Irish take up a part of that because they emigrated from ireland the New York regions, I believe it was in the late 1800s mostly. lol, I'm taking World History and took American History last year. :p
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 09:43:43 PM
edit: deleted that post, cause i didn't like it. ;)
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Pearl Harbor? You Americans dramatise it too much. We got bombed to hell, we should have a remembrance day for every day of the year.
No offense.
lol. Do people have the idea that this is some national holiday, where we all run around weeping, or perhaps the opposite where we have cake and grill and socialize with friends and shoot fireworks?
Its just a day in history that may mean more to some than others. It doesn't mean much to me on a personal level, which is why I forgot about it in conversation with the customer.
I'm just gonna stop trying now.
Almeidaboo, mind if I borrow your smiley? Thanks.
Post by: Revolution911 on December 07, 2005, 09:45:23 PM
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 09:48:27 PM
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 09:53:03 PM
The Easter holiday is just a sad representation of how lazy some people are. Instead of actually calculating the real date of Jesus' death, they just round it off to the nearest sunday. :rolleyes:
Easter is actually an Egytian(?) holiday devoted to worshipping Ester, the fertility goddess. Rabbits have long been associated with fertility (gee, i wonder why), hence the Easter Rabbit and Eggs bit. [I don't remember which king it was] incorporated the holiday, now known as Easter, into christian traditions to satisfy these people (if I remember correctly, because he conquered them).
The funny thing about Christmas is that many people are realizing that Jesus was, in fact, not born on December 25th, yet they continue to celebrate it, because its much easier than actually finding out the right way to do things.
edit: Easter history added. I did it from memory, so give me a little break.
Post by: Archem on December 07, 2005, 09:57:14 PM
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 09:57:48 PM
Post by: Drace on December 07, 2005, 10:02:41 PM
Post by: Shady Ultima on December 07, 2005, 10:03:22 PM
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 10:06:22 PM
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And Japan! You threw two bloody A-bombs on them! Crazy Americans.
Holland is next. They've been asking for it for a while now. :D
My WWII history is hazy, but if I remember correctly, Europe had advance warning that Hitler was gonna F up the place.
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Funny fact bout Santa... The red suit was popularized by Coca Cola. They were the first to decide that Father Christmas' blue wasn't happy enough and made it red... hooray for commercialism
That IS a fun fact.
Post by: Archem on December 07, 2005, 10:10:08 PM
...
I'm moving to Canada as soon as I'm 21. Unless someone (I'm looking at YOU, God) stops the madness now.
Or we could see how I fare with a sniper rifle...
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I didn't say that.
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 10:13:06 PM
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I'm moving to Canada as soon as I'm 21. Unless someone (I'm looking at YOU, God) stops the madness now.
Or we could see how I fare with a sniper rifle...
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I didn't say that.
The FBI is watching you. ::) <-- Black FBI dude.
and, hey Houston buddy.
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 10:16:09 PM
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 10:22:04 PM
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 10:26:53 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 07, 2005, 10:28:53 PM
In my personal opinion though, we should be taxed more. Bill Cliton did it, and he was bringing us out of this god-forsaken debt you speak of. So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.
In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.
Post by: Drighton on December 07, 2005, 10:56:05 PM
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Yes, it's all a big complex of supply and demand equations. More money = more demand and more supply, so really, getting out of dept and etc will not increase the money supply at all. Also, America has one of the best governments in the world. I'm sick of people like you blaming all problems on the government. Sure, they waste money, but at least that wasted money gets put to use unlike several other places that leave their money to rot and waste it on exports/imports.
In my personal opinion though, we should be taxed more. Bill Cliton did it, and he was bringing us out of this god-forsaken debt you speak of. So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.
In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.
Post by: Darkfox on December 07, 2005, 10:59:54 PM
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 11:15:51 PM
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Yes, it's all a big complex of supply and demand equations. More money = more demand and more supply, so really, getting out of dept and etc will not increase the money supply at all. Also, America has one of the best governments in the world. I'm sick of people like you blaming all problems on the government. Sure, they waste money, but at least that wasted money gets put to use unlike several other places that leave their money to rot and waste it on exports/imports.
In my personal opinion though, we should be taxed more. Bill Cliton did it, and he was bringing us out of this god-forsaken debt you speak of. So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.
In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.
I msut admit, it really isn't the government that's the problem, when I said government I was implying the politicians. When george Washington was president, that was probably the most honestly the government was ever run. But sicne then, we've grown so large and have elected too many corrupt politicians.
But I'd definitely say they spend money on personal expenses (some politicians) and that is sickening. Like, vacations to ireland , all expenses paid. Or to the caribbean via private jet. Just total greed right there.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 07, 2005, 11:23:14 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.
I msut admit, it really isn't the government that's the problem, when I said government I was implying the politicians. When george Washington was president, that was probably the most honestly the government was ever run. But sicne then, we've grown so large and have elected too many corrupt politicians.
But I'd definitely say they spend money on personal expenses (some politicians) and that is sickening. Like, vacations to ireland , all expenses paid. Or to the caribbean via private jet. Just total greed right there.
In that case, blame the spenders. Yes, corruption is a problem everywhere, big woot to that. However, personal expenses you've got all wrong, Sure, they are a waste of money, but not our money so to say. Each place gets a set ammout of money from the FED banks closest to them to spend over the year. If that money isn't used, then it goes back into next years FED. In all honesty, it's better to use the money then to send it back to the FED. Plus, private flights and etc arn't cheap. Those do add to our econmic stature, though not as much as the nations the vacations are payed in.
I'm not saying what they do is good or just, but it's not nearly as bad as you'd think and is very ordinary.
Edit- Also, in the times of Washington and etc, the government was corrupt too. Not as badly, but several things were done. The most important one was the "anti-war" acts, which made the people protest against the war purely to seem like a peace-loving nation while we were kicking the Brits and Frenchies asses.
Post by: drenrin2120 on December 07, 2005, 11:26:18 PM
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quote: Originally posted by drenrin2120
quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
In short, don't blame the government, blame the republicans.
I msut admit, it really isn't the government that's the problem, when I said government I was implying the politicians. When george Washington was president, that was probably the most honestly the government was ever run. But sicne then, we've grown so large and have elected too many corrupt politicians.
But I'd definitely say they spend money on personal expenses (some politicians) and that is sickening. Like, vacations to ireland , all expenses paid. Or to the caribbean via private jet. Just total greed right there.
In that case, blame the spenders. Yes, corruption is a problem everywhere, big woot to that. However, personal expenses you've got all wrong, Sure, they are a waste of money, but not our money so to say. Each place gets a set ammout of money from the FED banks closest to them to spend over the year. If that money isn't used, then it goes back into next years FED. In all honesty, it's better to use the money then to send it back to the FED. Plus, private flights and etc arn't cheap. Those do add to our econmic stature, though not as much as the nations the vacations are payed in.
I'm not saying what they do is good or just, but it's not nearly as bad as you'd think and is very ordinary.
Yeah, I can understand that. Maybe the News exaggerates things. But there has been a rise in like, scandals and sh!t which can be very dismaying. But I get what you're saying. Nowadays, it's pretty much impossible to avoid corruptino in most every kind of system.
Post by: Almeidaboo on December 07, 2005, 11:36:19 PM
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I think your a few months behind buddy.
But no, this is a "day of infamy" as it was once put. I don't put a lot of emphasis on it, but some people do. It isn't really a celebration, but a day of memorial for the events of the past and those who died on this day.
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Iīm not from the States...i canīt really say anything! But donīt think I didnīt notice your thread buddy! :cow:
Can't say I really know how to take this comment, so
LOL!...Well, I meant that, even though I couldnīt say anything about it, Iīd post for supporting lol...
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on December 08, 2005, 12:19:29 AM
or something like that.
Pearl Harbor is a KICK *** movie, because the special effects are awesome.
Post by: MrMister on December 08, 2005, 12:52:11 AM
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yesterday, december 7th, 1941, a date which will live in infamy, the us was deliberaty attacked by the naval forces of the empire of Japan..
or something like that.
Pearl Harbor is a KICK *** movie, because the special effects are awesome.
Anything that has Ben Affleck in it(excluding Kevin Smith films): INSTANTLY UNWATCHABLE.
Post by: coasterkrazy on December 08, 2005, 01:35:03 AM
If I remember correctly, Christmas gets its date (and the tree I think, but not the star obviously) from the pagan holiday of Saturnalia, which is somehow related to celebrating Saturn or something. Kind of ironic when you think about it.
As for the name Christmas, (another if I remember correctly) Xmas was the original Greek name (pronounced Ich-thus) which means fish (or something related to fish) which is where the fish symbol comes from. I think the fish was a sort of "code" if you will to mean Christ Jesus without people who didn't know knowing.
I hope I got that at least somewhat accurate from what I remember from about... 2-4 years ago.
Post by: Tomi on December 08, 2005, 02:14:24 AM
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I should note that Easter is supposedly the celebration of Jesus' death.
Actually, it is the celebration of his resurection. So yeah.
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So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.
*coughdemocratsfillibusteringeverythinginsighttowastetimeandmoneywhiletryingtomakerepublicanslookbadsotheycansaythatnothinggotdoneunderbushadministrationcough*
*whew...*
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 08, 2005, 02:20:21 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Drighton
I should note that Easter is supposedly the celebration of Jesus' death.
Actually, it is the celebration of his resurection. So yeah.
quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
So, the reason that we are in debt is because to many republican's are in the whitehouse and threatening to VETO all laws passed by congress should they not do what the president asks them to.
*coughdemocratsfillibusteringeverythinginsighttowastetimeandmoneywhiletryingtomakerepublicanslookbadsotheycansaythatnothinggotdoneunderbushadministrationcough*
*whew...*
Hey, that was a pretty funny joke. But, on all seriousness, you can't possibly say that the fact that congress is lower taxes rapidly isn't the cause of constant pressure on the President's part.
Post by: Ace of Spades on December 08, 2005, 02:30:31 AM
And Drace, Europe is the whole reason WWI happened, so you better shut up. Obviously it wasn't Britain or anyone else's fault, but when you keep saying "Europe has endured worse" just keep in mind that a conflict between Serbia and Austria Hungary caused an event that pretty much made everything after it screwed up. So instead of blaming the US gov't, Republicans, God, or anyone else who people are blaming just so that they have someone to blame, blame the Black Hand and the Serbian Nationalist who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand and his wife, which was the big spark that caused WWI. Let's see, according to the logic of "If this didn't happen things would be a lot better and different," if that wouldn't have happened, these are the following that most likely wouldn't have happened either.
- WWI
- Treaty of Versailles which pretty much f*cked Germany over
- Rising of Hitler
- WWII
- Jewish Concentration Camps
- Pearl Harbor
- A-Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
- Jews basically stealing Muslim land
- Cold War
- Vietnam War (Actually, this might have happened still)
- Muslim Terrorist groups forming because Jews stole their
land
- America rebuilding Japan after bombing them
- Computer technology (It might've though)
- 9/11
- War on Terrorism
- Iraq War
And I won't say gas prices wouldn't have gone up because the oil companies (OPEC in particular) are a bunch of greedy dicks and it would've gone up somehow. But that's the logic of "if this didn't happen all this wouldn't have happened either. But some other crap most likely would've happened anyway, so it's best to just throw that theory into the garbage.
But anyway, on the topic of this thread, Pearl Harbor doesn't have great importance to me, but I do take a moment to remember those who died. And also, Pearl Harbor sucked... and I love you. :heart:
Post by: Tomi on December 08, 2005, 02:37:14 AM
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Hey, that was a pretty funny joke.
No joke. :|
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But, on all seriousness, you can't possibly say that the fact that congress is lower taxes rapidly isn't the cause of constant pressure on the President's part.
And the rise in taxes during the Clinton Administration had nothing to do with pressure from Clinton. :D
And Amen to Ace.
Post by: Drighton on December 08, 2005, 04:11:31 AM
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I know this was from the last page, but I missed this topic and just wanted to comment:
If I remember correctly, Christmas gets its date (and the tree I think, but not the star obviously) from the pagan holiday of Saturnalia, which is somehow related to celebrating Saturn or something. Kind of ironic when you think about it.
As for the name Christmas, (another if I remember correctly) Xmas was the original Greek name (pronounced Ich-thus) which means fish (or something related to fish) which is where the fish symbol comes from. I think the fish was a sort of "code" if you will to mean Christ Jesus without people who didn't know knowing.
I hope I got that at least somewhat accurate from what I remember from about... 2-4 years ago.
That sounds about right. And don't worry about on-topic-ness (see bottom)
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Actually, it is the celebration of his resurection. So yeah.
Whats funny is that I knew/know that, yet I still F'ed it up.
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But anyway, on the topic of this thread, Pearl Harbor doesn't have great importance to me, but I do take a moment to remember those who died. And also, Pearl Harbor sucked... and I love you. :heart:
Thanks Ace. It was getting pretty hard to explain that.
Second, this thread hardly has a topic, nor was it intended to have one. Thats right, it is a topicless thread, which is how the topic seems to have changed a few times. Anyways, you guys carry on and I'll jump back in tomorrow. :D
Post by: dragoninja on December 08, 2005, 09:08:23 PM
World Wars wouldn't be World wars if the whole World hadn't got involved.
Bush is making up for Europes "head start" in starting WW, he's only inches away from starting a 3rd, and I think he's happy with his accomplishments(sp?).
War is bad, should be left behind, rememberance days only brings sorrow and reasons to start a new one... Japan PWNED Pearl harbour and that's about it.
"Make luv not war" I think that's what they say.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 08, 2005, 09:14:18 PM
And, War is not bad. Sometimes, it's an only resort. Meaningless wars (Like the Cold War AKA oil war and this current Iraq War) are what you would call pointless. Just like guns don't kill people do, people kill people, war isn't bad, but killing is.
Post by: Black Massacre on December 08, 2005, 09:25:23 PM
Post by: dragoninja on December 08, 2005, 09:41:40 PM
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War is not bad. Just like guns don't kill, people do, people kill people, war isn't bad.
You said WHAT!? How in the flying F*** can war in any case be good!? People die because some stupids f***ed up people get's owned by another contry through verbal assault of something and they want revenge whilst hiding behind an armada heading towards the enemy contry... how can you even MENTION that war isn't bad, and this whole "guns don't kill, people do" crap? GUNS DO KILL!!! IT'S THEIR MAIN PURPOSE!!! the bullet don't kill intentionally, it's the gun that fires it, the gun can fire by itself it it gets a sudden bash.
People who uses guns uses them for protection or "respect" (which they SEROUSLY have misstranslated) it's simple actually the cycle:
Finger triggers it, Gun loads off a bullet, bullet hits something eventually.
See, the bullet have no choice but to hit as they can't stop doing anything but going forward!
War is bad, it's never appropriate, everything can be handled civilised. I wish people would understand this.
Post by: Kinslayer on December 08, 2005, 11:19:05 PM
Post by: Cerebus on December 08, 2005, 11:53:25 PM
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Bush is trying to start a new world world with the crap he is pulling on Cuba and ****.
A new world world? Don't you mean a new world war?
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 09, 2005, 12:12:06 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
War is not bad. Just like guns don't kill, people do, people kill people, war isn't bad.
You said WHAT!? How in the flying F*** can war in any case be good!? People die because some stupids f***ed up people get's owned by another contry through verbal assault of something and they want revenge whilst hiding behind an armada heading towards the enemy contry... how can you even MENTION that war isn't bad, and this whole "guns don't kill, people do" crap? GUNS DO KILL!!! IT'S THEIR MAIN PURPOSE!!! the bullet don't kill intentionally, it's the gun that fires it, the gun can fire by itself it it gets a sudden bash.
People who uses guns uses them for protection or "respect" (which they SEROUSLY have misstranslated) it's simple actually the cycle:
Finger triggers it, Gun loads off a bullet, bullet hits something eventually.
See, the bullet have no choice but to hit as they can't stop doing anything but going forward!
War is bad, it's never appropriate, everything can be handled civilised. I wish people would understand this.
War isn't good or bad, but it's necessary.
And, the PERSON fires the gun, dur. The gun doesn't cause the bullet to fly, the PERSON does, double dur.
Again, war is part of life. America wouldn't exist if it wern't for it. I'll say I don't like killing and etc, but it's something that must happen to deside factors of what will happen. Talking does ****, force is what does things.
Post by: Razor on December 09, 2005, 12:24:56 AM
YOU FAIL.
Anyway, War is an ironic thing, without WW2, we wouldn't have most of the technology we have today.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 09, 2005, 12:31:02 AM
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But you can't launch a bullet with out a gun.
YOU FAIL.B]
Throw the bullet.
YOU FAIL
Put it in a long tube and light the end on fire, like a potato laucher. That's not a GUN
YOU FAIL
Attact the bullet to a stick and fire it with a bow
YOU FAIL
As you see, all projectile-murders are caused by humans putting sharp impaling objects in something that can propel them, be it a hand or a gun. And, don't use the "well then the gun is still what kills you" sad and pointless debate, because I could counter that with "The hand throws the knife, does the hand then kill you and not the person as well?" or, "nope, the fire propels the bullet, so it's not the gun that kills you, but the effect of the person pulling the trigger and making the hammer cause an explosion. Please guys, try to make a decent arguement for me if you're going to even try to argue here.
Post by: Razor on December 09, 2005, 12:42:54 AM
Out of a very high window, yes, but horizontally, it's like throwing a rock.
And I doubt it's the bullet doing the killing when it's on an arrow.
"Oh look, I'm gonna glue this bullet onto a bowling ball, then launch it out of a cannon, and when it hits that guy on the head, it will be the bullet which does the killing! I'm a freakin' genius!"
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Put it in a long tube and light the end on fire, like a potato laucher. That's not a GUN
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Wikipedia
A gun is a mechanical device that fires projectiles at high velocity, using a propellant such as gun powder or compressed air.
Holy crap! You know what this means?
YOU FAIL!
Good challenge though. Had me beat for a minute there.
Post by: Shady Ultima on December 09, 2005, 12:54:26 AM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 09, 2005, 12:57:28 AM
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Ok, you have no idea how retarded your concept of throwing a bullet to kill is.
Out of a very high window, yes, but horizontally, it's like throwing a rock.
And I doubt it's the bullet doing the killing when it's on an arrow.
"Oh look, I'm gonna glue this bullet onto a bowling ball, then launch it out of a cannon, and when it hits that guy on the head, it will be the bullet which does the killing! I'm a freakin' genius!"
quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
Put it in a long tube and light the end on fire, like a potato laucher. That's not a GUN
quote: Wikipedia
A gun is a mechanical device that fires projectiles at high velocity, using a propellant such as gun powder or compressed air.
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The def can also define a hunting bow, those baseball/tenis ball shooters, pryovents, etc. Come up with something better will ya?
Plus, you said it right there. "I put a bowling ball..." "I launch it...." Oh wow, and you say I contradict.
YOU FAIL
Post by: Razor on December 09, 2005, 01:00:36 AM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 09, 2005, 01:03:23 AM
Edit- Plus, the retarded concept of throwing a bullet ins't meaning it should kill someone, you said 'launch'. And, again, you contradict yourself when saying that I shouldn't thrown around the word gun.
Post by: Razor on December 09, 2005, 01:07:10 AM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 09, 2005, 01:09:31 AM
Post by: Razor on December 09, 2005, 01:11:48 AM
Also, we've gone sooo offtopic, it almost hurts. But it doesn't.
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on December 09, 2005, 01:14:28 AM
Anyways, wasn't that war something?
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 09, 2005, 01:15:15 AM
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True.
Also, we've gone sooo offtopic, it almost hurts. But it doesn't.
LOL, yeah, that is pretty true. I'm gonna stop now, I think we've both proved a valid point. So yeah... you can get on with your modship and I can get on with my mindless ranting on how people's maps arn't to par.
Post by: dragoninja on December 10, 2005, 03:03:16 PM
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Because you didn't say the bullet has to be launched and kill someone, you merly said it has to be launched.
Thats what he said!! It has to be launched!
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Of course a bullet attached to a stick isn't going to kill anyone, but it can be launched.
It can kill too! with enough speed it'll pierce you like a pig
Also war is never necessary, people just starts them 'cuase they think it's a quick and easy sullotion 'cause a politician spat on another politician's shoe...
P.S. stuff can self-ignite
Back on topic shall we (just had to state these points)
Post by: Drighton on December 10, 2005, 04:24:28 PM
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Back on topic shall we (just had to state these points)
What topic people!? The topic is what you make it to be.
Lets buy a Charas Island.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on December 10, 2005, 04:42:03 PM
It's great to have your own views, but try not to be absolutist.
Post by: Drighton on December 10, 2005, 05:41:45 PM
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It's great to have your own views, but try not to be absolutist.
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 10, 2005, 06:11:50 PM
Quit being a hippie. War is often needed to end disputes. You could try going to school and talking yourself out of a fight with a bully, but in the end, punchs will be thrown, and one will walk away the victor (knowing you it'd be the bully). Peacful actions are not always the smartest ones.
Post by: Drace on December 10, 2005, 07:01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Moosetroop11
Dragonninja, War is sometimes the best course of action. The main reason WWII was such a disaster for all sides is because we didn't go to war with Germany soon enough. We relied on peaceful methods whilst Germany grew stronger and took over more countries.
It's great to have your own views, but try not to be absolutist.
The reason WWII was such a disaster is because the countries that beat it in WWI left it in such a state that I couldn't do anything but start another war.
Post by: Drighton on December 10, 2005, 07:05:29 PM
Zeppelin (http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_8_17_2001_15_43_57/ZeppelinNT.lwo_thumbnail5.JPGF2E3A8A5-3ED7-4CA8-B73696512B2F4E89.jpgLarge.jpg)
Spanish War Galleon (http://www.runawaystudios.com/imgs/3d/galleon.jpg)
However, when I go shopping, it will be a little hard to take all those groceries up the rope ladder. That and my eyepatch will probably scare the clerk.
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The reason WWII was such a disaster is because the countries that beat it in WWI left it in such a state that *I* couldn't do anything but start another war.
OMG ITz HiTLErZz!1
Post by: carmen on December 11, 2005, 02:57:18 AM
WW2 was americas excuse to gain land. notice how we jumped in and won everything? war is strategic. Although myself being a pacifist, i do acknowledge the fact that certain wars were actually fruitful for this country.
Post by: DarkFlood2 on December 11, 2005, 06:46:46 PM
Post by: Drace on December 11, 2005, 07:17:03 PM
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Originally posted by Drighton
So I've developed a plan to attach a Spanish War Galleon to a Zeppelin and live out my life in the sky, free from property taxes.
Zeppelin
Spanish War Galleon
However, when I go shopping, it will be a little hard to take all those groceries up the rope ladder. That and my eyepatch will probably scare the clerk.
quote: Originally posted by Drace
The reason WWII was such a disaster is because the countries that beat it in WWI left it in such a state that *I* couldn't do anything but start another war.
OMG ITz HiTLErZz!1
About time someone notices it.
Anyhoe, I mean big H, of course.
Post by: Black Massacre on December 11, 2005, 07:21:20 PM
Post by: Darkfox on December 11, 2005, 07:34:19 PM
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Isn't Pearl Harbor over? SO, this thread is pretty much over then.
Are you a mod? No... didn't think so.
Post by: Black Massacre on December 11, 2005, 08:05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Darkfox
quote: Isn't Pearl Harbor over? SO, this thread is pretty much over then.
Are you a mod? No... didn't think so.
All i said was that this thread wasn't much useful since pearl harbor is over.
Post by: charaman on December 11, 2005, 08:10:39 PM
Well, you're over. Now let this thread live.
Post by: Razor on December 11, 2005, 09:05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Darkfox
quote: Isn't Pearl Harbor over? SO, this thread is pretty much over then.
Are you a mod? No... didn't think so.
Keep in mind, and this is only speculation, but apparently, apparently he is the master of Alex.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 11, 2005, 09:08:10 PM
And I thought that only mods are allowed to use colors in there nicknames. I got penilized for doing that once.
Post by: Black Massacre on December 11, 2005, 09:18:09 PM
Post by: Darkfox on December 11, 2005, 09:22:12 PM
I've counted at least 3 attacks so far. This being the third, although not direct shows signs that you wish to exert authority in the stopping of flow of ideas in this thread. So leave it be, it's neither spam nor flaming, so don't turn it into one.
Post by: Razor on December 11, 2005, 11:39:57 PM
War.
Huh.
Good God, y'all.
What is it good for?
Well that's what we're discussing.
Say it again!
Post by: Drace on December 12, 2005, 05:56:26 AM
Post by: Darkfox on December 12, 2005, 06:31:35 AM
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this thread wasn't much useful since pearl harbor is over.
See? He said nothing about this thread losing it's purpose. He said it was useless to begin with because it's the past being been and done. I see few wrong with it, though it's somthing I personally have no interest in. To me, Japanese bombed them, led to atomic bomb. We've all recovered since then for the most part. Still no reason to attempt to silence it.
Plus it serves a hidden purpose... ;)
In any case, it's on it's last warning. So let it die on it's own or get that killer warning.
Post by: Grandy on December 12, 2005, 03:41:08 PM
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To me, Japanese bombed them, led to atomic bomb
Actually, no, there's proof that the USA just wanted to shown it's power to the USSR (or however you organize the letters.), so it throwed two atomic bombs, one in Hiroshima, and one in Nagasaki, if it was just to end the war, the USA could just have launched one single bomb, it would have the same effect.
Post by: Kinslayer on December 12, 2005, 04:32:13 PM
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quote: To me, Japanese bombed them, led to atomic bomb
Actually, no, there's proof that the USA just wanted to shown it's power to the USSR (or however you organize the letters.), so it throwed two atomic bombs, one in Hiroshima, and one in Nagasaki, if it was just to end the war, the USA could just have launched one single bomb, it would have the same effect.
That is correct, besides there was no reason to throw the atomic bombs, the war was "already won", the japanese didn't have much of a defense at that moment, and a single charge of the US forces would have been enough.
Post by: Drace on December 12, 2005, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 12, 2005, 08:01:15 PM
Post by: Razor on December 13, 2005, 12:06:55 AM
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They still talk about the Titanic afterall.
Is there a "Titanic Day", cause there should be. :P
Post by: Drighton on December 13, 2005, 02:18:25 PM
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Originally posted by Grandy
Actually, no, there's proof that the USA just wanted to shown it's power to the USSR (or however you organize the letters.), so it throwed two atomic bombs, one in Hiroshima, and one in Nagasaki, if it was just to end the war, the USA could just have launched one single bomb, it would have the same effect.
The US began development of an atomic bomb because they recieved bad/incorrect info stating that the Germans were working on building an atomic bomb. I think in actuality they were working on a nuclear reactor, not a bomb.
The Allies wanted Japan to surrender unconditionally. Japan would not do so. Bomb1. Japan would not do so. Bomb2. "Okay, okay, we give."
Post by: Leon_1990 on December 13, 2005, 02:49:29 PM
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The US is full with filthy pigs! I'm packing my bags...
Why pack your bags? You're dutch!
plus...we don't need america, Drace...we got britain :)...
and red Dwarf :)
*sigh* Once again The officials in america make a stupid decision...Why do they always have to think EVERYTHING involves them, and if it doesn't it SHOULD?! >.<" and throwing two nukes only to show power...that's kinda...ignorant, yep ignorant as hell. Stupid too. and no offence...but it seems to be, The American Way!
Post by: carmen on December 13, 2005, 03:31:24 PM
America is a different place now. You can't call it still te same america we have different people in power. Thats like saying prince charles is the same as elizabeth 1. Maybe not as extreme, but still the same Idea.
the point is. It was a different time.
edit: and before you call a country ignorant, make sure you know enough about that country, otherwise you're being ignorant yourself. Kinda ironic..ain't it?
Post by: Leon_1990 on December 13, 2005, 05:13:39 PM
Aaaand...Queen elizabeth and prince charles arent exactly our equivalent to the american president...heck, the "royalty" are barely involved in politics, they're just useless figures in an ancient family >.<"
Kinda ironic and ignorant you judged before you knew, eh Carmen?
I said nothing about the country, I was merely dissing the presidents, after all, the one america has at the moment isnt too bright himself, now is he?, but then again, I could say the same for Tony blair lol
Post by: Darkfox on December 13, 2005, 06:36:37 PM
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Didn't that happen AFTER the nukes?
Actually. No. That was before.
Post by: Drighton on December 13, 2005, 06:36:44 PM
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...If the nukes ended the war...What do you call pearl harbour then? Didn't that happen AFTER the nukes?
LOL. No, it didn't.
edit: so beaten.
Post by: Leon_1990 on December 13, 2005, 06:43:45 PM
Wait, I wasnt taught american history...that would explain my complete Un-knowingness on the topic :p ah well, you got me wrong there, but I still stick by my opinion that America makes really dumb decisions (Kyoto Summit anyone?)
Post by: Darkfox on December 13, 2005, 06:46:08 PM
US: Lets fight!
Japan: YEAH!
US: Lets stop fighting!
Japan: YEAH but now we will bomb Pearl Harbor!
US: Oh you bombed Pearl Harbor! Now we nuke you!
Japan: No!
US: Lets use 2 nukes! One in Hiroshima, and one in Nagasaki!
Japan: No! Ok, lets stop.
US: YEAH!
XD just trying to spread some humor on it.
Post by: Grandy on December 13, 2005, 06:48:53 PM
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America is a different place now. You can't call it still te same america we have different people in power.
I will not say what I'm thinking about this comment because last time someone did it started a flame war, but you know what I'm thinking.
Post by: Leon_1990 on December 13, 2005, 07:18:05 PM
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This is about it in a nutshell, or so the way the history books say at least...
US: Lets fight!
Japan: YEAH!
US: Lets stop fighting!
Japan: YEAH but now we will bomb Pearl Harbor!
US: Oh you bombed Pearl Harbor! Now we nuke you!
Japan: No!
US: Lets use 2 nukes! One in Hiroshima, and one in Nagasaki!
Japan: No! Ok, lets stop.
US: YEAH!
XD just trying to spread some humor on it.
lol nice one XD
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I will not say what I'm thinking about this comment because last time someone did it started a flame war, but you know what I'm thinking.
:)
I sound like a hater of america...
Post by: Drace on December 13, 2005, 08:03:12 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 13, 2005, 08:05:08 PM
Post by: Leon_1990 on December 13, 2005, 08:07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Europe needs the US for one thing.
yep...PORN!
Post by: Drighton on December 13, 2005, 08:12:21 PM
Babylon
... is conquered by ...
Medo-Persian empire
... is conquered by ...
Greecian empire
... is conquered by ...
Roman Empire
Who conquered the Roman empire? No one. Rome expanded it's territory outward, including far north.
Britian is logically the next world power to have emerged, however it is still, theoretically, part of the Roman empire.
Settlers from Britian create what is now known as the US.
US and Britian co-rule the world as a branch from the ancient Roman Empire.
I always thought this was interesting. It probably isn't all that interesting to you. Why is it interesting to me? Because this change of power down till today is outlined in the Bible, in the book of Daniel, TWICE.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 13, 2005, 08:18:56 PM
Post by: Darkfox on December 13, 2005, 08:37:49 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 13, 2005, 09:28:03 PM
Post by: Kinslayer on December 13, 2005, 09:38:45 PM
1- Territory: The territory became harder and harder to control, and so the borderds where difficult to control (For example, Adriano's Wall at Britania, or the east of Galia that was under constant attack of the Germans). Like this, the Roman Empire divided it self in two: The Roman Empire at the West (Which is the Roman Empire that we all know of, the one located in Rome and stuff) and the Eastern Roman Empire (At Constantinopla... can't recall how to spell "bizantino"right now, it's hard to translate, y'know!). The one that you guys are talking about is the West Roman Empire.
2- Economy: As the territory became harder to control, the economy went outta hand too. Since no more conquests where achieved, there was no more profit, and the economy begun to decline.
3- The Tactics: The great mistake of Rome was also to not make the tactics advance in time. They became obsolet, and the enemies begun to know how to face them.
4- The Invaders: The Germans where the last to invade Rome. There were several rebellions against the Empire, which little by little begun to loose power. But the harshest invasion was made by the huns. Since they crushed all of Rome's power at Gemany, Galia and other countries at center and eastern Europe, they put Rome in a hard position to defend itself against any attack. So they where left to be given the "finishing touch".
That is a little summary of what really happened at Rome, maybe I'm missing some points, but that's about it.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 13, 2005, 09:50:49 PM
Post by: Drighton on December 13, 2005, 09:57:45 PM
Look Ma! I changed the durn topic! :D