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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: AsakuraHao2004 on December 18, 2005, 03:07:27 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm)
Yes, guitar tablature has been banned from the internet. Now if you want guitar tabs (legally), you'll have to get them from an official tab book. Already, one of my favourite sites for tabs, http://www.powertabs.net is down, and I'm sure many are to follow. Tabs are very important, especially to beginning guitarists. How will they learn the songs of their favourite artists? How will they learn the riffs that are now dubbed good for learning? Think of the poor kids, who can't afford to buy tab books. Another things, internet tabs, for the most part, are user-submitted. That means that it's the work of someone, if not the artist. Also, Powertabs had many un-official tabs that members had composed themselves. Those tabs shouldn't have to suffer. I would like to bring something to attention. A quote from the link at the top of this post.
"Unauthorised use of lyrics and tablature deprives the songwriter of the ability to make a living, and is no different than stealing."
Hmm.. so this "songwriter" with their 12 mansions, 50 cars, and yearly income in the millions can't "make a living"? I can understand the thing with MP3s, but since I can play some Metallica songs, poor James is gonna be lstanding in the unemplyment office? I think not. In my opinon, this is by far the stupidest action taken by the government (err... in modern times that is). Knowing a song effect the songwriter in no way.
I guess with the Patriot Act out of the way, the government has to find new ways of limiting us.
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I agree with you all the way. I hardly ever have money to buy 30-40 even 50 dollar tab books.I have tabit on my computer and now if i want another song to learn that is by zeppelin i have to buy a book. What if some of these people only want to learn one song? Now they have to buy books and basically waste money on a book with 30 songs and only play 5.
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Bullcrap! *qucikly checks if 911tabs and azchords still excist*
Phew. They live.
"throw in some jail time I think we'll be a little more effective".
What the hell is wrong with this guy? He should be killed!
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Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
...this is by far the stupidest action taken by the government (err... in modern times that is). Knowing a song effect the songwriter in no way.
I guess with the Patriot Act out of the way, the government has to find new ways of limiting us.
Hey genius. It's not the government. Actually take time to read the article a little and you'll see that it's the Music Publisher's Association, a non-profit(granted, there are several ways a non-profit organization can make money), independant organization.
Sorry, you can't be a rebel this time. Try again later.
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I used powertabs.. but I guess I can still use ultimate-guitar.com
And Osmose, I'd high-five you for that zinger, but I'm just too bummed.
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Well, well, well, looks like all you poser guitar players out there that can't read sheet music or pick up a song by listening to now wont make anymore gay bands(good charlotte, simple plan, everyother gay band on the market) I've never had to use tablature, and even when I started i just listend for a song, give it a try its not that hard. And if you cant do it, then you shouldn't play guitar poser fag.
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Originally posted by Seth Mitchell
Well, well, well, looks like all you poser guitar players out there that can't read sheet music or pick up a song by listening to now wont make anymore gay bands(good charlotte, simple plan, everyother gay band on the market) I've never had to use tablature, and even when I started i just listend for a song, give it a try its not that hard. And if you cant do it, then you shouldn't play guitar poser ***.
You aren't the king of music. You might think you are, but you're not. Almost everyone can read sheet music, but tablature just makes songs easier and quicker to learn. And you can't just learn thrash metal or power groove by ear. So STFU+GTFO
Yes, guitar tablature has been banned from the internet.
OH NOES, along with emulation, and illegal song downloading!
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dude it is very possible to learn this this "trash" metal by ear
edit: Btw, i am the king of music as you so crudly put it
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Seth: Do you want a ****ing medal? Too bad, no one cares. Maybe other people aren't as good as you claim to be, but that doesn't mean they're suddenly horrible and you are the standard for guitaring. Hell, I admire those who can play guitar at all, tabs or no tabs - they're better than me.
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Dude... get over yourself. Just because you supposedly learn differently than other people dosent make you better. We could learn the same song, me by reading tabs, and you by ear, but we'd both be able to play it equally. Virtuosity isn't in learning method, it's shown through practice of skill. And some music is not possible to learn by ear. Like Vai, or Satriani. Hell, I'd like to see you take on some Slayer solos by ear.
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Dude, I know like 30 by steve vai is from ear, and I learned the mountain song by satriani by ear. And Viruosity, is obtained by the work of the music, people say Kurt Cobain was a great guitar player, yet almost everything he wrote is basic 3or4 power chord riffs. And slayer solos are easy as hell to play, all being in Em or Am.
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oh, STFU Seth, you may play, but can you write your own songs AND [play them? burn inh hell you cock sucking ego statistic prickass poser! Damn straight!
Anyways, this whole things is BS. TABs are nothing like downloading MP3s and ****. Lemem get this straight, this non profit organization is doing what? Trying to get the government to vote on a bill to stop online tabs? BS.
EDIT: sorry, but Seth, you're way too damn cocky and it's pissin' me off real easily.
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Dude, I do wright my own stuff, and for you to call me a poser is like...(insert a good analogy here) so....yah
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Yeah, well, you're a little too cocky for me. Kinda set me off. It's not always about how simple it is, it's about the sound. If you can listen to it over and over, and not get tired of it. I hate it when some random song makes it in the #1 spot for a week and all it is is some fancy beat and a single, no harmony little ditty or flute in the background, prolly took like, what? a night? I'm not saying this is you, seth, just saying that can get me revved up.
meh, w/e. If you wanna argue, pm me or something. I don't feel like seeing another one of Asakura's threads gettin' locked.
And abotu the poser thing, i call you that otu of anger. I don't know you, you could be lying to me. I could be lying to you. The internet is too vague, but we all trust it so willingly.
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Dude, we seem to have the same concept of how music is now days, I just stated that music is sucky now because of tablature, and I guess on the one we can just agree to disagrree, so auvoir.
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okay, I'll take that. I guess it kinda pissed me off when you said posers read tabs and all that, 'cuz that's what I do. I go online and look up tabs or try and play a song while listening to it. But I guess we can do as you said, agree on disagreeing.
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this is stupid, and it makes me mad....I started playing guitar 14 years ago, when I was 10....I didnt seriously learn anything untill the first time I went on the Internet, at 13.....I downloaded some Nirvana Tabs, and Chord Diagrams.....
I still have never learned sheet music, but Im a pretty Decent Guitarist today....Ive only ever played Bass in a Band...And Sung, But I never wouldhave even gotten into music if I didnt have something to tell me what the hell I was doing....
I now own a Mandolin, 12 string and 6 string accoustic, and 4 different hand percussion drums, wich I collect and Play.
I have never played in a "Gay" Band....And I honestly dont think that de-legalizing tabs are going to make any less bad music surface onto the mainstream....Quite the opposite...
Now, All of the Idiot kids will be starting more horrible bands, as there is nothing to bridge the gap between strumming out of ttenage angst and actually self-educating yourself...
I havent looked at a Tab in over 8 years....I havent had to....I only ever play somebody elses stuff when I need to figure it out to teach a friend....and I can do that better by ear than by paper......
But this is bunk.....
Artists never lost any royalties from guitar tabs on the net....If anything, they had their fanbase boosted slightly as a result....
An unfamiliar bar band is more likely to cover your song, if the transcriptionn is net available....
this is stupid.....
And seth....Dont be a jerk man....That was kindof Ignorant. Like I said, this is only going to breed more shi tty bands in the end, bro. Not everybody has the option to be educated...I went to a poor school, that never had a music program...poor an art program for that metter.....youre entitled to your opinion, but just know that its kindof biassed, ignorant and Uninformed when you word it like that......I hate all of the bands you mentioned...but I think is jerkish to say that hating those bands is grounds to remove public education resources from free access. Its not going to help anything out in the end.
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Dude, I look back now, I was being a jerk kinda, but I've never had lessons, I'm completely Self taught. It did take PRACTICE to learn by ear, but if everyone can do that, there would be a better musics scene, that my philosophy.
I'm not saying tabs are the devil or anythig, but if people just went that extra mile to learn by ear or at the very least read sheet music, maybe they would go that extra mile in the writing process.
But tabs are only useful, in my oppinion, to a teacher who is a profecional teacher. that way they can just give a false sence of learning to a student. 3/4 the people that read tabs for the songs they learn, don't even understand the mathmatics of music. They dont know why songs cant jump from the key of B to D#, but if you read sheet or at least listen you can pick up on it easier.
Also, I researched it and they are trying to cut off all music learning programs from freeware sites aswell.
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Also, I researched it and they are trying to cut off all music learning programs from freeware sites aswell.
O.o... there's nothing illegal about freeware...
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Well, tabs are good for beginners, you know?
A lot of metal is hard to learn by ear.
Like.. Art of Shredding by Pantera.
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Originally posted by MrMister
Well, tabs are good for beginners, you know?
A lot of metal is hard to learn by ear.
Like.. Art of Shredding by Pantera.
Yeah! Good for beginners.
And Seth, anything like that again and I'm going to get over where-ever-you-live and beat the leaving **** out of you!
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Originally posted by Drace
Yeah! Good for beginners.
And Seth, anything like that again and I'm going to get over where-ever-you-live and beat the leaving **** out of you!
Seth Mitchell
Location: Biloxi, MS
Birthdate: May 26, 1990
A 15 year old boy named Seth Mitchell in Biloxi. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
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WHAT!? NO TAB!? How will I finish Deliverance! I cant make someone squeal like a pig if I only know the beginning!
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hmm, that is bad news. Playing piano for 7 years, I can read sheet music. But I did use tabs alot, it was just more visual. And the best part about music, is playing it, and it being heard,..so the way I see it, Music is for people, to share, to love, to hate etc. Everyone should be able to hear/play if they want.
Kurt cobain wasn't a great guitarist, I dunno who said that. He was a great songwriter though. Really good with melodies. and Slayers solos suck. Ah well. You guys should listen to rasputina, or Voltaire, or radio head. Stop letting metal eat your soul >:o
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Making tabs illegal is like making quotes illegal. It just isn't right.
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Slayer solos suck, they are completely random.
How can they ban tabs? Most of them are wrong.
And, yeah, it's not claiming it as your own.
It's not plagerism(sp?)