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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Almeidaboo on January 02, 2006, 07:40:39 PM

Title: Hardware problems (possibly)
Post by: Almeidaboo on January 02, 2006, 07:40:39 PM

Here´s what´s going on: my cooler is kinda broken, but I give it a lil' tilt and it starts normally.

Then, Windows pops up...after 10 minutes the computer freezes.
I restart it and it doesn´t turn on (I mean, that black screen counting the memory, the display of your HD type and stuff, that doesn´t appear)! The monitor doesn´t turn on (I get the orange light) and the computer receives energies, but doesn´t starts...

I´m positive that it´s clean: no viruses or spywares.

I think I have hardware problems. Anyone can give me a clue?

(the situation is kinda badly explained, any doubts just say and I´ll try to clear it up...)

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Post by: charaman on January 02, 2006, 08:24:36 PM

same type thing happened to my mac. I'm fairly sure its a motherboard problem.

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Post by: Drighton on January 02, 2006, 09:05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Here´s what´s going on: my cooler is kinda broken, but I give it a lil' tilt and it starts normally.

Then, Windows pops up...after 10 minutes the computer freezes.
I restart it and it doesn´t turn on (I mean, that black screen counting the memory, the display of your HD type and stuff, that doesn´t appear)! The monitor doesn´t turn on (I get the orange light) and the computer receives energies, but doesn´t starts...

POST (Power On Self Test) = memory counting thing

What do you mean by "cooler"? Is this a fan? And if so, is it the CPU fan (mounted on top of the CPU chip or heatsink (big metal thing)) or a case fan?

It seems like an overheating problem to me. If it is indeed a fan that is not working then that would only support my theory. Try dusting the inside of the computer out (use air, not a feather duster). Also, if any fans are not working, get them replaced. They should be cheap.

But first, let the computer cool off (30 mins maybe) then try to start it up without any side panels on.

Hope this helps. Let me know.

edit: If I'm saying something that may be obvious, I'm either A) being funny my own little way, or B) just covering myself. It definately sounds like a hardware problem though.

Edit 2: Is "cooler" some Euro term?
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Post by: Drace on January 02, 2006, 09:08:47 PM

Same thing happend to me. I got a new cooler and no problems since then.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on January 03, 2006, 12:09:25 AM

Yeah, by cooler I meant fan...it´s the fan that´s near the motherboard, dunno which one is it.

Weird thing is that right now, this fvckud up **** works perfecly....

I´ll buy another fan, to see if it gets better!

Thanks for the help!

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Post by: Razor on January 03, 2006, 12:13:04 AM

Turn the aircon on right next to the computer.

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Post by: DragonBlaze on January 03, 2006, 12:26:50 AM

Hmm I had the same problems with my laptop, it was a bad motherboard. I could turn it on, then any time it started working hard it froze or turned off instantly. Then after a bit it wouldn't turn back on afterwards for a while. Now it hardly turns on at all. Though yeah, if you're CPU gets too hot, you're computer could get shut down and not turn on again until it cools down.

Anyway, I think its the motherboard. Have you ever gotten "The blue screen of death?" If you do, try to copy down the error message or whatever you get and post it up.

Sadly a new mobo for my laptop would have cost $650, so I just built a new computer for $450. A mobo for a regular PC shouldn't cost much at all though, the one I'm using was only 60 or so.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on January 03, 2006, 09:59:30 AM

Weird thing´s that I never got the blue screen...it´s kinda working fine now, but the probs may come back..

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Post by: Almeidaboo on January 03, 2006, 03:34:57 PM

I hate this man! My computer acts like it was a real freaking person! It works whenever he wants, pretend to be dead not to works...Dude, it must have PERIOD you know...

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 03, 2006, 03:38:42 PM

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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
I hate this man! My computer acts like it was a real freaking person! It works whenever he wants, pretend to be dead not to works...Dude, it must have PERIOD you know...

If it starts bleeding, don't get a new one. They frown upon that.....

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Post by: Drighton on January 03, 2006, 04:06:39 PM

If it is the fan that is ON your motherboard that is failing, then you need to replace it immediately. The computer is shutting off because the CPU is not being cooled off. Within the time its powered on and boots to Windows, its reaching a critical temp. Luckily it seems its an intel processor, since its turning off the computer before any real damage is done.

Yes, the CPU can be damaged. That will cost you. I know your in Brazil, but here in TX I can get another CPU fan for about $15. Try to get it replaced ASAP, and I mean squeeze it into your schedule.

I wouldn't recommend running your computer with that fan not working.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on January 03, 2006, 06:00:18 PM

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Originally posted by Drighton
If it is the fan that is ON your motherboard that is failing, then you need to replace it immediately. The computer is shutting off because the CPU is not being cooled off. Within the time its powered on and boots to Windows, its reaching a critical temp. Luckily it seems its an intel processor, since its turning off the computer before any real damage is done.

Yes, the CPU can be damaged. That will cost you. I know your in Brazil, but here in TX I can get another CPU fan for about $15. Try to get it replaced ASAP, and I mean squeeze it into your schedule.

I wouldn't recommend running your computer with that fan not working.

It´s not like it´s not working...it does work, but i have to use a pen and give it a little push...then it starts turning around normally. I have to use the computer open though...I´ll make the best I can to change that cooler, so that I don´t have any more problems. But I need to check my wallet first, cause I 'm pretty sure that the spider that lived inside it starved and died...

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Post by: Drace on January 04, 2006, 12:18:27 PM

Deffinantly the cooler.

My problems were:

- Randomly went out
- Computer felt hot
- Went out when I tried to start it


I really recommend getting a new cooler unless you suspect something worse, then get a professional for it.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on January 10, 2006, 03:22:43 PM

Sorry for topic kick, this a update (and may help ppl with the same problem):

Yeah, I took my PC to the tecnician and he told me my cooler´s (fan) dead and that I´ll have to change it. Plus, he said that it´s gonna have to stay there fo 2 or 3 days for a general check-up (he´s an oldy little computer godammit!)...I´ll still visit the forums from here (my work), but I can´t play Flyff...

Lesson of the day:  if your PC freezes outta nothing and then doesn´t turn on again, check your cooler, it may be broken. Or: always take care of your cooler.

Thanks do Drighton, Drace and everyone that helped me out! You're awesome!

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Post by: Drighton on January 10, 2006, 07:02:22 PM

Did you hear that guys!? I'm Awesome!!!  :]]

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Post by: Razor on January 10, 2006, 09:14:34 PM

Gee Almeidaboo, I hope you didn't have a large stash of images that you wouldn't want other people to see on your computer.

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Post by: Drace on January 11, 2006, 06:09:22 AM

Heh, no problem Al. Good to hear it's al good now.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on January 11, 2006, 03:19:03 PM

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Originally posted by Razor
Gee Almeidaboo, I hope you didn't have a large stash of images that you wouldn't want other people to see on your computer.

LOL! No compromising pic in my computer...And no porn too. Those aren´t the reasons my PC got too hot...

EDIT: FInal update: problem fixed with some vaselin (oil) on the fan...it´s running smootly again. Actually, when it came back from maintenance, it connected to the internet properly, but IE, FF, MSN, no program that used internet worked!!!!! I had never seen a computer return from maintenance more broken than it was before!!!

Then I formatted the computer and everything is fine now.

Again, thanks guys!