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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: shadus on February 05, 2006, 02:07:47 AM

Title: About Kingdom Hearts And every thing else people have added.
Post by: shadus on February 05, 2006, 02:07:47 AM

Played through it it got better.Not one the best games I've ever played but still good.That all.

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 05, 2006, 02:16:51 AM

Squaresoft + Disney = Vomiting gelatinous blob.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 05, 2006, 02:20:10 AM

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Squaresoft + Disney = Vomiting gelatinous blob.

ZOMFG agreed.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 05, 2006, 02:28:45 AM

*gasp!* How dare ye! Oh well, to each his/her own..

I personally like Kingdom Hearts, I loved the story, love square enix, and I just love disney. So why not mix them? Kingdom hearts was a hit, so..boo on ya'll :p

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Post by: Cerebus on February 05, 2006, 02:39:56 AM

I only played Kingdom Heart : Chain of Memory... didn't like it...
The card thing sucked, in my opinion. I'm not saying the game sucked, but I didn't like it... and DIsney with Squaresoft/enix isn't a bad mix. I found that original... but the card thing...

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 05, 2006, 02:41:51 AM

oh yes, with Midnight9795's formula, square enix + disney + gay Yugi Oh card game = greatness!

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Post by: shadus on February 05, 2006, 02:42:09 AM

No not spam.I said a while back that the game was bad.Just saying that it wasn't that bad.That's all.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 05, 2006, 02:47:41 AM

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oh yes, with Midnight9795's formula, square enix + disney + gay Yugi Oh card game = greatness!

First off sweetie, it's Mid. And I never said I liked Yugioh so please..don't get that **** twisted. You're trying to diss me because I disagree with you? I don't know why, but whatever. As I said before, to each his own. But don't assume things, because you end up looking like an *** ^^

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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 05, 2006, 02:48:36 AM

Meiscool, she didn't even flame you, why you bein such a prick?

I personally never played KH, but I heard mixed reviews about it. I don't really play any PS1/2 games, and I prolly won't even paly PS3 games. That goes for any console really. I'm just not really into them anymore.

EDIT: Burn

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Post by: Spike21 on February 05, 2006, 02:51:08 AM

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Squaresoft + Disney = Vomiting gelatinous blob.

yeah my ps2 smelt for days. LOL :D

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 05, 2006, 02:52:49 AM

 

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lmfao! There's no reason to actually feel offended really. I mean, I really wanna know where the hell Yugioh came from..*looks around*

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Post by: Spike21 on February 05, 2006, 02:54:40 AM

the card thingy... yugioh cards don't taste good either...*vomit*

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Post by: DragonBlaze on February 05, 2006, 02:57:03 AM

I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs. If you don't like one of the two, well the game isn't for you. Its like a pokemon game, its designed for people who like pokemon, thus people who dont like pokemon (like me), will dislike the games.

Just because the game isn't designed for your interests, it doesn't make it a bad game.

I don't really like disney, so chances are I won't be playing it, though if I find it used for $5, I may try it out.

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Post by: Spike21 on February 05, 2006, 02:58:44 AM

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I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs. If you don't like one of the two, well the game isn't for you. Its like a pokemon game, its designed for people who like pokemon, thus people who dont like pokemon (like me), will dislike the games.

Just because the game isn't designed for your interests, it doesn't make it a bad game.

I don't really like disney, so chances are I won't be playing it, though if I find it used for $5, I may try it out.

bad is an opinion... so its bad...in my opinion

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Post by: artoni on February 05, 2006, 03:01:38 AM

I enjoyed it. There's nothing like casting Fira on Captain Hook and watching him run around with a flaming behind.  :]]

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Post by: Shady Ultima on February 05, 2006, 03:07:57 AM

Wat the heck is wrong with you Meiscool? All I ever see is you being a dick!

I never played the game, so I guess I don't have an opinion, but I have seen some of it and it looks like an alright game. Probably a lot better then FFX-2

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 05, 2006, 03:09:09 AM

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Wat the heck is wrong with you Meiscool? All I ever see is you being a dick!

I never played the game, so I guess I don't have an opinion, but I have seen some of it and it looks like an alright game. Probably a lot better then FFX-2

Everything was better then FFX-2. Pokemon was better then FFX-2

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 05, 2006, 03:11:27 AM

Actually, I liked Final Fantasy X-2. But hey, that's just me. For those who say they've never played it, but have heard about it..well, you can't rely on another's opinion all the time because we all have different taste. Who knows, you might end up liking it.

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Post by: Shady Ultima on February 05, 2006, 03:11:34 AM

Don't knock Pokemon!

Pokemon was the game that got me into RPG games. It's a very simple RPG, and it's easy, so its a great beginner RPG

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Post by: Spike21 on February 05, 2006, 03:12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Shady Ultima Wat the heck is wrong with you Meiscool? All I ever see is you being a dick! I never played the game, so I guess I don't have an opinion, but I have seen some of it and it looks like an alright game. Probably a lot better then FFX-2

Everything was better then FFX-2. Pokemon was better then FFX-2

you got that right. Yuna was on pot or somtin'

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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 05, 2006, 03:17:22 AM

Pokemon was okay, it was cool when it came out. But then, something happened... I grew up I guess XD

But yeah, FFX-2 seemed like some kinda game made to make a little extra doe outta FFX. Which almost always results in crap. But I never palyed it, so I can't say much. It could be a good game, it might not.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on February 05, 2006, 03:20:32 AM

*Twitches eyes*

*Hyperventilates*

Midnight?

Anyway, Kingdom Hearts is a good game. The storyline is the thing that makes it all complete. Or right.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 05, 2006, 03:22:18 AM

X-2 was crap because it had no plot, had nothing to do with X-1, and had only three characters. Job classes really had no purpose, as you could make Yuna one class, make Paine another, and Rikku and third and never worry about class switches again. They tried to add replay value by making a 100% grid. The card-game stunk. The voices were the worsest.

Good things about it: Skimpy outfits. Big swords. Some tough optional bosses, tons of side quests.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on February 05, 2006, 03:24:00 AM

X-2 didn't have a cardgame.

It did have sphere breaker though. Fun game. Less fun was Blitzball. Butchered to the max.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 05, 2006, 03:28:18 AM

The whole point of that game was to find Tidus. I haven't ended the game yet, but I was pretty close to the end. There were times when I thought it was alittle dragged, but it was still an acceptable game.

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 05, 2006, 03:33:23 AM

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I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs. If you don't like one of the two, well the game isn't for you. Its like a pokemon game, its designed for people who like pokemon, thus people who dont like pokemon (like me), will dislike the games.

Just because the game isn't designed for your interests, it doesn't make it a bad game.

I don't really like disney, so chances are I won't be playing it, though if I find it used for $5, I may try it out.

You mean everything else Pokemon is designed for people who like the games. The games were first.

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Post by: shadus on February 05, 2006, 03:46:50 AM

I go to find stuff for my game look back and ya'll are fighting about FFX-2...OK..

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Post by: Shady Ultima on February 05, 2006, 03:50:57 AM

Heh... I guess that's my fault.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 05, 2006, 03:51:24 AM

We're not 'fightin' just having a friendly debate ;) I was kind've disappointed that Auron wasn't in it..he was what MADE the game, in my opinion..

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 05, 2006, 03:53:16 AM

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X-2 didn't have a cardgame.

It did have sphere breaker though. Fun game. Less fun was Blitzball. Butchered to the max.

Sphere Breaker was the cardgame. It use CARDS, thus it was a CARDgame

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Post by: shadus on February 05, 2006, 04:05:03 AM

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I was kind've disappointed that Auron wasn't in it..he was what MADE the game, in my opinion..

Auron rocks.ZOMBIE ATTACK!

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on February 05, 2006, 04:14:07 AM

I liked Kingdom Hearts, I had a lot of fun with it. I beat it twice before getting bored with it. But I don't like KH: Chain of Memories. >_< I hate that damn card-based battle system.

I played the demo of FFX-2 and... ugh. I won't be buying that game any time soon.

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Post by: Archem on February 05, 2006, 05:00:00 AM

I never beat KH, but that's because:
1. The PS2 is at my dad's house.
2. I hardly ever go to that crap shack ghetto anymore.
3. My brother played my file and did so much to it, so I erased it and assumed that I'd start again soon.

But I really did like it, it felt a lok like Zelda, so that made it easy to get into. I won't play KH2 until I beat the first one, but since I don't want a PS3 that much, and because most of the games on a Sony system aren't all that great, that could take quite a while to do. I did like how they managed to kill my criticism by making it fun and by using a good story. And as for Final Fantasy, I think that the only ones that are any fun are 1,4,5,6,7, and 9. I haven't played 3, so I don't know about that one yet.

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Post by: shadus on February 05, 2006, 05:30:29 AM

How miny people have played 3?

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Post by: Cerebus on February 05, 2006, 05:55:07 AM

If you mean Final Fantasy 3, then, I played, but not a lot... I had an emulator with it, but the text were all messed up. It was symbols and letters all scrambled... It looked like fun, but I couldn't undestand anything, so I stopped playing...

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Post by: Drace on February 05, 2006, 06:45:12 AM

First of all, Square-soft doesn't have many great games. I only enjoyed 7, 9 and 10.

Secondly, Disney games suck. They've always been and always will be unless they come with blood and gore and kill Goofy.

Third, I hate the idea that he's fighting with gigantic keys. "ZOMG!!! He's got a key!¡!¡!¡!¡!"

I don't like the basic idea about this game. So, it's not for me.

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Post by: Cerebus on February 05, 2006, 07:05:25 AM

Oh, yeah, the key... that is one thing I forgot... I really don't like having a key for weapon...
About blood and gore, I agree.

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 05, 2006, 07:23:52 AM

If They really wanted a Sqaure + Disney thing, it should have been Front Mission. Giant robots stepping on mickey. Uber pwnage.

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 05, 2006, 10:14:43 AM

My friend is kinda obsessed with Ansem's speech at the end. The one about "All hearts return to darkness". He says it roughtly once a day all the way through, at random intervals. He has it memorized, down to the change in voice tones 0_o

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Post by: Drace on February 05, 2006, 10:27:37 AM

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My friend is kinda obsessed with Ansem's speech at the end. The one about "All hearts return to darkness". He says it roughtly once a day all the way through, at random intervals. He has it memorized, down to the change in voice tones 0_o

There are only a few speeches in games which I like. One is that of Killzone before the title screen. Awesome speech. The others are most speeches from MGS. And don't forget Seymour's speech after he killed almost all Ronso's.

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Post by: Prpl_Mage on February 05, 2006, 10:38:03 AM

Well, I´ve always imagined Donald and Goofy as real people, worked out ok when there wasn´t a scene or something.
Kingdom hearts is a very good game and the battle sytem is sweet. Story is great, some puzzles arn´t. Sephiroth kick *** and getting 100% isn´t that hard.

Kingdom hearts CoM is worse, it really doesn´t have any story exept between the worlds and at the end...They should kept the old battle system but hey, just load up with tons of attack cards in the begining of the deck and some magics in the bottom.

And at last FFX2...They all act as if they are Charlies Angels...The battle system was an improvment of the classic ATB. Just the fact that the only good ending is when you got 100% is quite bad...It´s so hard.
And everyone who played through FFX and completed it knows why Auron isn´t in it.

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Post by: DarkFlood2 on February 05, 2006, 12:23:54 PM

I kinda liked KH1..  It was more origional than a lot of games at the time... I mean, think about it: what other game can you run around and beat the **** out of disney characters? CoM was all right, the card based battle system was... flawed, but I haven't seen anything else like it... Plus, its the only game with actual movie scenes. As far as I'm concerned, however, FF3 (the real one for NES) is probably one of the best FF games. Right up there with 7,8,9, and 6.

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Post by: Desimodontidae on February 05, 2006, 02:35:05 PM

I liked Kingdom Hearts, it's one of my favourite games, although it has a few disadvantages. For one, Donald and Goofy. I remember for one battle that I kept dying in, I stocked their inventory full of potions and ethers, in hopes that they'd use it on me when needed. Half-way through the battle, where normally they'd be dead, I noticed that both of them had full HP and MP. I ended up dying. And when that's NOT the case, they're out there using everything they have on random monster battles. Goofy using up all his MP, and Donald promptly dying every few seconds. Especially right before a boss. They do not understand the concept of concervation.

Another thing I didn't like was the Ansem battle. If anyone's ever played Legend of Dragoon, then you probably know what a pushover Melbu Frama (sp?) is. Well, as far as bosses go, Ansem was pretty lame. When he's really big and floating around and you have to retrieve Donald and Goofy for whatever reason, it's just pathetic. I let him hit me as much as he could. It was a real let down.

Other than that, its a pretty good game. If you don't like it just because of the diseny elements, that's pretty stupid. If you take away those things, it can stand by itself as a pretty good game. The battle system's great, especially the Colosseum. The Sephiroth battle is great, kinda easy towards the end, but still awesome. And the storyline is good... a little clicheed, but original for the most part. And the Diseny element just help compliment it's originality. It could just be random worlds that are all brought together, but it's Diseny worlds, which offers some familiarity, and sets the stage for different gameplay. Now, if only Kingdom Hearts 2 would hurry up and release....

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 05, 2006, 04:23:29 PM

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Originally posted by Moosetroop11 My friend is kinda obsessed with Ansem's speech at the end. The one about "All hearts return to darkness". He says it roughtly once a day all the way through, at random intervals. He has it memorized, down to the change in voice tones 0_o

There are only a few speeches in games which I like. One is that of Killzone before the title screen. Awesome speech. The others are most speeches from MGS. And don't forget Seymour's speech after he killed almost all Ronso's.

I liked the Half life games' speeches, but they really didn't matter to the game a whole lot.

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Post by: Grandy on February 05, 2006, 05:31:12 PM

 The only fail I see it's that the game is just too small, at least for me.

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Post by: Lighting Half Dozen on February 05, 2006, 06:59:01 PM

Took 3 years for me to beat it. Since this is basicly a hate threat with no flameing, i wont post waht i thout of the game.

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Post by: Shadowless1 on February 05, 2006, 08:33:36 PM

for all you people that dont know final fantasy 3 was the japanese/snes/nes original, then it got turned into final fantasy 6, ffx-2 sucked the story had no purpose, i only enjoyed playing it because yuna ran around in pantys  :p and they totally ruined blitzball i dont even know how to play it in ffx-2

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Post by: Lighting Half Dozen on February 05, 2006, 09:04:34 PM

I love all your refrences to KH in this thread, shadowless.

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Post by: Drace on February 05, 2006, 09:06:25 PM

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And everyone who played through FFX and completed it knows why Auron isn´t in it.

Auron's story rocked the game. Along with Seymour's story. Tidus' story was stupid after it was clear he was a 'dream'.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 05, 2006, 11:17:06 PM

I really had a biased opinion on KH, why? SO many ppl said that mixing characters up, clashes and it would be stupid. Yet KH was a hit... wth is up with that? So i dont think I am quiet mad at the game but the hypocrism of the public.

Then again SSBM rocked...

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 06, 2006, 12:04:39 AM

KH...sucks. Major @ss...It´s just lame, terrible and stupid. And I´m not the kinda guy to speak like this...but KH was, for real.

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I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs.

Correction: It´s an "Action RPG", therefore, it´s NOT an RPG, but an action game. :)

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Post by: Grandy on February 06, 2006, 12:35:36 AM

 

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really had a biased opinion on KH, why? SO many ppl said that mixing characters up, clashes and it would be stupid. Yet KH was a hit... wth is up with that? So i dont think I am quiet mad at the game but the hypocrism of the public.

 Correct, if a few year ago someone walked to me and said "You know, Disney and Squaresoft (a few years ago, this means no Enix) will make an pact to do a game with characters from both movies and FF games and it will actually be good." I'd call the police, there's a lunatic in my house.

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Post by: Darkfire_renagade on February 06, 2006, 01:01:21 AM

hmmm this thread is rather interesting.

anyways. I personaly think that kingdom hearts wasn't half bad.
Usually when i play a video game I never complete it. But kingdom hearts managed to keep me entertained until the end. So when Kh2 comes out im gonna play it.

but anyways. kh had only one flaw in my opinion. it was to easy.
FFx-2 was awfull. I never even got half way through it. and ive never played ff3 so i cant really Say anything about it.

anyways

Later dayz Y'all

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Post by: smokey_locs2002 on February 06, 2006, 02:43:48 AM

I love KH and anyone who says I'm "gay" or whatever all I gotta say is, "**** you".

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Post by: shadus on February 06, 2006, 02:45:33 AM

I'm sorry your not happy...

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Post by: Revolution911 on February 06, 2006, 03:05:58 AM

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KH...sucks. Major @ss...It´s just lame, terrible and stupid. And I´m not the kinda guy to speak like this...but KH was, for real.

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I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs.

Correction: It´s an "Action RPG", therefore, it´s NOT an RPG, but an action game. :)

...It was an RPG. Like...I dont mean to flame but I dont know how else to put this....what're you stupid?

Seriously, give me reasons why it was lame. And dont you dare say cause it had disney characters.

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 06, 2006, 03:09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Almeidaboo KH...sucks. Major @ss...It´s just lame, terrible and stupid. And I´m not the kinda guy to speak like this...but KH was, for real. quote: I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs. Correction: It´s an "Action RPG", therefore, it´s NOT an RPG, but an action game. :)

...It was an RPG. Like...I dont mean to flame but I dont know how else to put this....what're you stupid?

Seriously, give me reasons why it was lame. And dont you dare say cause it had disney characters.

If someone thought it wa lame because it had Disney, thats why they thought it was lame.

That's like saying to someone "Tell me why you don't like that food. And don't you dare say its because it tastes bad".

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 06, 2006, 03:14:43 AM

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Originally posted by Revolution911 quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo KH...sucks. Major @ss...It´s just lame, terrible and stupid. And I´m not the kinda guy to speak like this...but KH was, for real. quote: I never played KH, but I don't believe its a bad game. I just think its designed for people who like disney and rpgs. Correction: It´s an "Action RPG", therefore, it´s NOT an RPG, but an action game. :) ...It was an RPG. Like...I dont mean to flame but I dont know how else to put this....what're you stupid? Seriously, give me reasons why it was lame. And dont you dare say cause it had disney characters.

If someone thought it wa lame because it had Disney, thats why they thought it was lame.

That's like saying to someone "Tell me why you don't like that food. And don't you dare say its because it tastes bad".

Exactly.

It was lame because Micky Mouse was the king, all your characters were fricken cartoons, you had a freaking key for a sword, side quests included finding 101 puppies to unlock a cool sword, your main enemy was as corny as hell, and they ruined FF completly. Oh, and there was no gore. Gore is good.

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Post by: shadus on February 06, 2006, 03:20:52 AM

Well realy the FF guys in KH aren't the same people.Just look alikes how use the same weapons and have the same name.How do I know this?Simply because there from hollow wherever.But the real Cloud is from Terra I think.Also FF7 Cloud dosn't fight like KHN Could.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 06, 2006, 03:23:53 AM

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Well realy the FF guys in KH aren't the same people.Just look alikes how use the same weapons and have the same name.How do I know this?Simply because there from hollow wherever.But the real Cloud is from Terra I think.Also FF7 Cloud dosn't fight like KHN Could.

Oh right, by bad. I mean, just because they look the same, have the same weapons, are from the same designer, have the same name, and act the same, in no way means that they are ment to be the same guy! I get it now! Because Tidus in KH isn't ment to be Tidus from FFX, it totally doesn't ruin the FFX Tidus in the least! (even though Tidus was a *****)

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 06, 2006, 03:54:45 AM

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(even though Tidus was a ******)

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Post by: Drace on February 06, 2006, 04:01:31 AM

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really had a biased opinion on KH, why? SO many ppl said that mixing characters up, clashes and it would be stupid. Yet KH was a hit... wth is up with that? So i dont think I am quiet mad at the game but the hypocrism of the public.

 Correct, if a few year ago someone walked to me and said "You know, Disney and Squaresoft (a few years ago, this means no Enix) will make an pact to do a game with characters from both movies and FF games and it will actually be good." I'd call the police, there's a lunatic in my house.

If someone in my house were here to say: "ZOMG! Disney > j00! Final Fantasy > j00!", he's getting the bullet.

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Post by: Trevlac on February 06, 2006, 06:17:45 AM

Kingdom Hearts was a great game.  Honestly, the only people I have seen speak ill of it are those too narrowminded to pick up a controller and play for more than a half-hour.

I do not, however, enjoy beating the game and getting experience to level up when it just starts you over anyway.  So there's no point awarding experience at the final battle.  That was so rediculous.  The game was relatively easy if you choose Normal difficulty and chose to keep the sword.  So when people say that it is too easy, I tell them, play on Hard and relinquish the sword and keep the staff.  It'll be hard...

I can not wait until KH II comes out.  Now, Chain of Memories was a total waste of frickin' time.  I was only going to play to get the middle story, however, I ditched it and decided to read a synopsis online (which I reccomend you all do).  Kingdom Hearts has a great storyline.  I will admit that the extra characters native to their worlds idea was useless since you could only use them there, so why level them up.

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As for Tidus, I hate that guy.  FFX has a good storyline but I just hate Tidus! All hail Lulu.

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Post by: shadus on February 06, 2006, 06:22:52 AM

Who cares about Lulu?Go blue tiger guy!

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Post by: Grandy on February 06, 2006, 01:41:30 PM

 

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Kingdom Hearts was a great game. Honestly, the only people I have seen speak ill of it are those too narrowminded to pick up a controller and play for more than a half-hour.

I do not, however, enjoy beating the game and getting experience to level up when it just starts you over anyway. So there's no point awarding experience at the final battle. That was so rediculous. The game was relatively easy if you choose Normal difficulty and chose to keep the sword. So when people say that it is too easy, I tell them, play on Hard and relinquish the sword and keep the staff. It'll be hard...

I can not wait until KH II comes out. Now, Chain of Memories was a total waste of frickin' time. I was only going to play to get the middle story, however, I ditched it and decided to read a synopsis online (which I reccomend you all do). Kingdom Hearts has a great storyline. I will admit that the extra characters native to their worlds idea was useless since you could only use them there, so why level them up.

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As for Tidus, I hate that guy. FFX has a good storyline but I just hate Tidus! All hail Lulu.

 You get EXP in the last battle because the last boss isn't really the last boss, to get the "true" ending, you must beat Phanton in Neverland, the six-armed-giant-white-robot-dude in Agrabah, and lastly Sephiroth in the Hades tournament, the last one only become avaible after you finish the game.

 I bought KH II already, in Japanese (the guy at the store lied to me, "Oh 'course it is in english! I guarante you!" at least the next day I convinced him  to trade.) And it looks (at least where I could go without knowing anything) more FF-ish than the first one. For starters, it looks like (not sure) you start playing with what it looks like it's an 'adult' Sora, just the fact he is an adult and not an kid is already more FF than Disney, I can waste precious moments of my life counting how many Disney "heroes" are kid, while I haven't seem almost no FF hero who isn't an adult.
 Secondly, until where I played, I didn't saw almost no Disney references, maybe they were written, I know, Japanese language and all.
 But again, it can be as in the first KH, where, in the beggining, you find, lest count: Tidus (Kid), Wakka (Big kid), Selphie (Small kid), Leon, Yuffie, Aerith, Cid (FF7) and not too far in the game, Cloud. But after those is DISNEY, DISNEY, DISNEY and DISNEY all the way, only with another encounters with Cloud at the coliseum and Leon, Yuffie and Aerith in the ending of the game, plus some boxes with Chocobos pictures. And of course, after you beat the game, Sephiroth. See? FF only in the beggining, could happen again.

 And for the LOVE OF GOD! Taking out Ramuh, Titan, Ifrit as summon to leave place for BAMBI!?!!!?

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And for the LOVE OF GOD! Taking out Ramuh, Titan, Ifrit as summon to leave place for BAMBI!?!!!?

THAT´S WHY THIS GAME FREAKING SUCKS! BAMBI FOR GOD SAKES!

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Originally posted by Grandy And for the LOVE OF GOD! Taking out Ramuh, Titan, Ifrit as summon to leave place for BAMBI!?!!!?

THAT´S WHY THIS GAME FREAKING SUCKS! BAMBI FOR GOD SAKES!

What's his attack? Letting his mother die?

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Post by: Grandy on February 06, 2006, 06:03:21 PM

 He throws MP balls and a (cheap) iten for every 6 enemies we defeat before the summon time is over.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 06, 2006, 08:24:18 PM

O.o

The world needs a new hero. Cheese-man. They should put cheese as a character.

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Originally posted by Grandy And for the LOVE OF GOD! Taking out Ramuh, Titan, Ifrit as summon to leave place for BAMBI!?!!!?

THAT´S WHY THIS GAME FREAKING SUCKS! BAMBI FOR GOD SAKES!

Hell, you could freaking summon Tinker Bell for christ's sake! It was *******************************************************
************************** to the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem!



Carmen Says: do it again, I'm deleting the post, understand?

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Post by: Lighting Half Dozen on February 06, 2006, 09:30:27 PM

tHe only perpus KH was to get disnet fans to be square fans, vise versa. Whether this worked or not i dunno. i just returned to charas a few weeks ago, and am i no mood to be hated. my feelings for KH: no comment.

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Post by: Seth Mitchell on February 06, 2006, 09:33:45 PM

I don't know if it was a rumor, but somone told me that the people at square sent a letter to disney as a joke about making a game, and disney was all for it, and so the square people were like ok. But I'm not sure thats true.

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I don't know if it was a rumor, but somone told me that the people at square sent a letter to disney as a joke about making a game, and disney was all for it, and so the square people were like ok. But I'm not sure thats true.

I don't think companies that have nothing in common in the competive market would do something like that to earn enemies for no reason. It has no benifit, unless you've got a man on the inside that can take pictures of the faces of the people when they open the email/letter/instant message/phonecall.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 06, 2006, 10:26:32 PM

Well..you guys can hate the game as much as you want, but you can't deny the success this game has...

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Well..you guys can hate the game as much as you want, but you can't deny the success this game has...

That's just like saying FF7 was good because of it's success, or that the new grand theft auto is automatically a hit just because people expected it to be great and bought it before waiting for the reviews.

Number of copies sold means nothing.

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Originally posted by Almeidaboo quote: Originally posted by Grandy And for the LOVE OF GOD! Taking out Ramuh, Titan, Ifrit as summon to leave place for BAMBI!?!!!? THAT´S WHY THIS GAME FREAKING SUCKS! BAMBI FOR GOD SAKES!

What's his attack? Letting his mother die?

Drace FTW!

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Originally posted by Midnight9795 Well..you guys can hate the game as much as you want, but you can't deny the success this game has...

That's just like saying FF7 was good because of it's success, or that the new grand theft auto is automatically a hit just because people expected it to be great and bought it before waiting for the reviews.

Number of copies sold means nothing.

Yeah, it's the percentage returned that matter :p

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Post by: Lighting Half Dozen on February 06, 2006, 10:53:06 PM

Bambi made MP refill balls...ah nevermind. A hit or successful game does not mean it is good. THere are 34592743857439524387532 people in the world, and almost ALWAYS with a game, movie, or book, it's likelyness is usually spread 50/50. KH, ff7, even starwars, all the same.

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Post by: Snake Eater on February 06, 2006, 11:03:55 PM

Kingdom Hearts was alright.... I wasn't the biggest fan though. Still pretty good though.

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Originally posted by Seth Mitchell I don't know if it was a rumor, but somone told me that the people at square sent a letter to disney as a joke about making a game, and disney was all for it, and so the square people were like ok. But I'm not sure thats true.

I don't think companies that have nothing in common in the competive market would do something like that to earn enemies for no reason. It has no benifit, unless you've got a man on the inside that can take pictures of the faces of the people when they open the email/letter/instant message/phonecall.

That doesn't matter, all corporaions are 1. Down with the corporations.

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Post by: Lighting Half Dozen on February 06, 2006, 11:14:33 PM

hippi.

Anyway, containing my feelings for the game, the only thing wrong in marketing was, the first commercial i saw, i thout it was a complete joke. so the Disney gets a letter rumor is probable.

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That's just like saying FF7 was good because of it's success, or that the new grand theft auto is automatically a hit just because people expected it to be great and bought it before waiting for the reviews.

Ok..Final Fantasy 7 was crap..good the first round, but it got boring after watching Cloud swing his sword around like an ***.. But it had an original story, which I can respect. I actually loved the fact that Kingdom hearts was made by two of the most powerful co.s ever. Everyone has to have loved something from Disney, and something from Square..if not, then something must be wrong with you..O,o

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Well..you guys can hate the game as much as you want, but you can't deny the success this game has...

Things that are stupid and dumb tend to become liked. Like the show Surface. Never seen anything more dumb except kiddie shows, but yet millions love it and even more than Threshold and Invasion which are actually two good shows with intelligence.

Smart things are used to getting underrated. Stupids things get overrated, like GTA, Surface and KH.

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Originally posted by Midnight9795 Well..you guys can hate the game as much as you want, but you can't deny the success this game has...

Things that are stupid and dumb tend to become liked. Like the show Surface. Never seen anything more dumb except kiddie shows, but yet millions love it and even more than Threshold and Invasion which are actually two good shows with intelligence.

Smart things are used to getting underrated. Stupids things get overrated, like GTA, Surface and KH.

Hey, GTA rocked.

GTA3 rocked because of its gameplay and map.
GTAVC rocked... well it wasn't that great. Nice story though, and I liked the music.
GTASA rocked because of character developement, and large map, and hydras!

I remember the joy I had when I first beat some old women to death with a baseball bat in GTA3, ahh, those were truely the times of kings...

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Sphere Breaker was the cardgame. It use CARDS, thus it was a CARDgame

Sphere Breaker used COINS, not cards.

And yes, although GTA is a brainless action game, it is still fun just because it's brainless.

Also, Kingdom Hearts wasn't overrated. More like, it began as an underrated game, until stupid morons who said OMG DISNEY IT SUKS actually played the game and began to like it.

So, point not made.

Oh, and one more thing. Overrated? Famitsu gave HK2 39/40.

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That's just like saying FF7 was good because of it's success, or that the new grand theft auto is automatically a hit just because people expected it to be great and bought it before waiting for the reviews.

Ok..Final Fantasy 7 was crap..good the first round, but it got boring after watching Cloud swing his sword around like an ***.. But it had an original story, which I can respect. I actually loved the fact that Kingdom hearts was made by two of the most powerful co.s ever. Everyone has to have loved something from Disney, and something from Square..if not, then something must be wrong with you..O,o

Sephiroth x ********************* Mermaid...

Oh dear GOd people are not thinking before speaking...

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Post by: GaryCXJk on February 07, 2006, 10:59:08 AM

You're just being rude and offensive.
 - GTA: Liberty City Stories

I loved the little mermaid. Ariel rocks.

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Originally posted by Almeidaboo quote: Originally posted by Grandy And for the LOVE OF GOD! Taking out Ramuh, Titan, Ifrit as summon to leave place for BAMBI!?!!!? THAT´S WHY THIS GAME FREAKING SUCKS! BAMBI FOR GOD SAKES!

Hell, you could freaking summon Tinker Bell for christ's sake! It was ****** to the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem!

 Actually, I find that the best Summon in the game.


 

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Sephiroth x ********** Mermaid...

Oh dear GOd people are not thinking before speaking...

 *shrugs* Sephiroth wins by coolness, FF is cool, now, disney is more about comedy (sometimes poor, poor comedy, but it stil is comedy) so it's easy to like both, as an example, I like Matrix Reloaded by it's coolness, and I like Scary Movie by it's jokes, both are equal in terms of likeness, so if they made a Matrix/Scare Movie crossovewr.... no, it would suck, forget it.

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You're just being rude and offensive.
 - GTA: Liberty City Stories

I loved the little mermaid. Ariel rocks.

No i'm not. I´m just trying to bring foward something that, in my point of view, is totally absurd: mermaids pwning FF7. Forgive me, but a rather stupid mermaid.

Plus, if coolness was measured by success, tell me who´s more famous: Sephiroth or Sora.

G to Charas search and look up how many Sephiroths and mix ups of that name you find.

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Originally posted by GaryCXJk You're just being rude and offensive.  - GTA: Liberty City Stories I loved the little mermaid. Ariel rocks.

No i'm not. I´m just trying to bring foward something that, in my point of view, is totally absurd: mermaids pwning FF7. Forgive me, but a rather stupid mermaid.

Plus, if coolness was measured by success, tell me who´s more famous: Sephiroth or Sora.

G to Charas search and look up how many Sephiroths and mix ups of that name you find.

Yeah, she's dumb. Selling her voice to a seawitch to be human.

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Post by: smokey_locs2002 on February 07, 2006, 04:52:23 PM

Dang lol I can feel the love form here.. this topic is covered over and over I've noticed I've also noticed any topic that gets big like this gets locked.. buuut. I have something to tell all KH anf FF7 haters. I DARE!!! you to make a better game. and Little do ya'll know Earthbound rapes KH!

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 07, 2006, 05:33:11 PM

both sides of the argument are right for me. yes it was success mainly because it captures the spirit both of Square and Disney in a single game. that doest derive it from the fact of what was made of. I'll never ever will like the idea of disney chara + ff chara; they are just worlds apart (dun give me the crap that they arent; their only relation is fantasy.). My roomates are in love with kh but i am 90% sure that they do BECAUSE of the ff charas. I do believe if the game had taken out all the ff charas from the game, it would have not been such a success. Yes i am saying most of the people that liked he game to an "omg its effing cool shut up" were biased because of the ff influence.

I heard guys saying "oh KH2 has auron in it. Cool i cant wait to play it, auron is awesome!" i was like "o.0" because of one chara..

Again i do not deny it's success, nor the great storyline ppl say it has. ppl say because it was creative (in the sense that it was an original idea). It isn't (well it was, but not in the way mentioned). There alots of crossover games, and i am sure alot of other gaming companies had have similiar ideas but didnt execute them for reasons, or who knows maybe they will in the future, but everyone will claim "ripoff" from kh.

 

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gary you have no idea how that doesnt mean anything to me cuz I don't what it is. lol o.o

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for all you people that dont know final fantasy 3 was the japanese/snes/nes original, then it got turned into final fantasy 6

BAD, FF3 and 6 were COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES



I think, although I never played it, that the idea behind KH was brilliant. It's a fangame, basically, so it follows the rules of fangame. If you like that sort of thing, cool. If you don't, don't play it.

 

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gary you have no idea how that doesnt mean anything to me cuz I don't what it is. lol o.o

I think he meant KH2, not HK2 XD

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Post by: Trevlac on February 07, 2006, 10:16:03 PM

What. The. Hell. Have you all turned this topic into?

Are we debating the greatness of FF7 and KH?
Are we debating the success of said games?
Are we simply flaming anyone who disagrees with us?
Someone, please explain to Trevlac, who does not see a reason for the fighting, why it must go on.

Let me say this, I used to hate Kingdom Hearts.  I was all "Eew, Donald and Goofy with Final Fantasy?  Retarded."  Then my freind Vince brought it over to me house and we played for HOURS.  When I bought my PS2 slim, I bought only KH.  After broadening my mind, I learned that it was retarded of ME to judge KH before even playing it.  So I say to anyone who has not played it for a substantial period of time, shut the fu duck up.  No, seriously, not flaming, but we really don't need that kind of uneducated, narrowminded opinion.  Many of you were reminding me of politicians in this respect.

As for Final fantasy VII, I don't care WHAT someone's opinion of FF7 was, it was a great peice of work graphically (at the time) functionally, metaphorically, and all around a wonderful peice of writing.  That is not my opinion, that is a critique.  Final Fantasy VII pushed the limits at that time for games (RPG and 3D games in particular).

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 07, 2006, 10:22:18 PM

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What. The. Hell. Have you all turned this topic into?

Are we debating the greatness of FF7 and KH?
Are we debating the success of said games?
Are we simply flaming anyone who disagrees with us?
Someone, please explain to Trevlac, who does not see a reason for the fighting, why it must go on.

Let me say this, I used to hate Kingdom Hearts.  I was all "Eew, Donald and Goofy with Final Fantasy?  Retarded."  Then my freind Vince brought it over to me house and we played for HOURS.  When I bought my PS2 slim, I bought only KH.  After broadening my mind, I learned that it was retarded of ME to judge KH before even playing it.  So I say to anyone who has not played it for a substantial period of time, shut the fu duck up.  No, seriously, not flaming, but we really don't need that kind of uneducated, narrowminded opinion.  Many of you were reminding me of politicians in this respect.

As for Final fantasy VII, I don't care WHAT someone's opinion of FF7 was, it was a great peice of work graphically (at the time) functionally, metaphorically, and all around a wonderful peice of writing.  That is not my opinion, that is a critique.  Final Fantasy VII pushed the limits at that time for games (RPG and 3D games in particular).

lmao trev your post is a ll a big chunk of irony :P You like followed the questions you asked XD (yet i dnnot disregard your post)

No one is fighting. When there's flaming, then is a fight.

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Post by: Midnight9795 on February 07, 2006, 10:35:45 PM

 

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Oh dear GOd people are not thinking before speaking...

Come again..?

Thank you Trev..never judge a book by it's cover, because in the end you'll look like an ***..I mean it would be a different story if half if ya'll played it and disliked it..but some of ya'll barely gave the game a chance. Also, I said FF7 was good the first round..just not enough to go, ''OMGZORS!! TOTAL FANGIRL!! SEPHY YOU SO HOT, YOU MAKE ME WANNA..'' well, you know -.-

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Post by: Desimodontidae on February 07, 2006, 10:42:17 PM

I like KH

FF7 sucks

I enjoyed FF8, 10, and 10-2

And Sephi does do that to me (KH version)

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 07, 2006, 10:42:34 PM

You're basing people's opinions on if they played it or not, KH lovers. Yet, you have absolutly nothing to back up your interests  to those of us that did play it and still think it sucked, and IMO, sucked worse then it looked before I played it.

Gary: Coins, Cards, "BIG" difference.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 07, 2006, 10:49:49 PM

lol meiscool, back that up << =P

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 07, 2006, 10:57:07 PM

Prehaps I worded it wrong:

Being that this is about Kingdom Hearts, it should be your job persuading us to think that it was a good game, not us to be persuading you it sucked, but it seems quite the other way around here.

Your strongest arguement is: If you haven't played it, then you can rate it based on looks.

My arguement to that: So, Disney=kiddy right? Well, coms for God Of War had blood in it, but because it's a com, I'm safe to assume gore won't come with it?

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Prehaps I worded it wrong:

Being that this is about Kingdom Hearts, it should be your job persuading us to think that it was a good game, not us to be persuading you it sucked, but it seems quite the other way around here.

Your strongest arguement is: If you haven't played it, then you can rate it based on looks.

My arguement to that: So, Disney=kiddy right? Well, coms for God Of War had blood in it, but because it's a com, I'm safe to assume gore won't come with it?

Yay for gorey God Of War. Now that's a great game.

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gary you have no idea how that doesnt mean anything to me cuz I don't what it is. lol o.o

I obviously meant KH2, which means Kingdom Hearts 2. Famitsu is like, THE most harsh videogames magazine. There were only five games with a perfect rating, and Kingdom Hearts 2 got close to perfect.

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Post by: Razor on February 08, 2006, 10:43:55 AM

Problem there, Gary.

No game, EVER should have a perfect rating.



No game can be perfect.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on February 08, 2006, 12:35:36 PM

FAMITSU GODDAMNIT, FAMITSU!

Famitsu is like, THE magazine to read if you want to filter crap from decent.

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Many of you were reminding me of politicians in this respect.

 *GASP* Don't. EVER. call me THAT again!

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FAMITSU GODDAMNIT, FAMITSU!

Famitsu is like, THE magazine to read if you want to filter crap from decent.

Videogame, Movies, Music critics...they´re always 500% wrong. Talking badly or talking nicely about the target. Doesn´t matter if it is Famistsu, Famicon, Gamespot, MTV...they´re always wrong. When they´re right, someone always dies for that (world disorder).

It´s subjective...we´re actually discussing something that shouldn´t be discussed: taste. In Brazil we say: "Taste is not discussable" (<---crappy translation). And that's actually true, everyone have different opinions.

^That I´m cool with. I just can´t accept that a bunch of inteligent, talented people like the ones that dwell here actually support a game in which Bambi stars on...

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Post by: Grandy on February 08, 2006, 04:11:12 PM

 Hey, he is ONE character, is that same as saying FF7 is crap because of Caith Sith.

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Originally posted by GaryCXJk FAMITSU GODDAMNIT, FAMITSU! Famitsu is like, THE magazine to read if you want to filter crap from decent.

Videogame, Movies, Music critics...they´re always 500% wrong. Talking badly or talking nicely about the target. Doesn´t matter if it is Famistsu, Famicon, Gamespot, MTV...they´re always wrong. When they´re right, someone always dies for that (world disorder).

It´s subjective...we´re actually discussing something that shouldn´t be discussed: taste. In Brazil we say: "Taste is not discussable" (<---crappy translation). And that's actually true, everyone have different opinions.

^That I´m cool with. I just can´t accept that a bunch of inteligent, talented people like the ones that dwell here actually sup
port a game in which Bambi stars on...

i agree. and they are not wrong. you can not have a wrong opinion. I hate it they get paid to tell peole what they like.

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Post by: Wire Frame on February 08, 2006, 04:28:45 PM

Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad.

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Post by: Drace on February 08, 2006, 04:34:57 PM

Reviews are based on opinions. Opinions aren't objective (*shrugs* hopefully got the good word), meaning they are based on what that person or persons like. There is no perfect rating, only ones that you can agree or disagree on.

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Hey, he is ONE character, is that same as saying FF7 is crap because of Caith Sith.

Cait Sith's death made me cry. He was AWESOME. *Cries again*

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Originally posted by Grandy Hey, he is ONE character, is that same as saying FF7 is crap because of Caith Sith.

Cait Sith's death made me cry. He was AWESOME. *Cries again*

ROFL...

Did Caith Sith die? I don´t remeber that...

Anyway, I can´t recall a single time I went against the critics opiniong and got clobberd...Sometimes the give terrible rates to a game and that just makes up your head, preventing you from having a possible fun.

My fav series is Suikoden. The rates, by gamespot:

S1: 6.5 (disagree...I´d give 8/10)
S2: 7.6 (disagree...I´d give 9/10)
S3: 9.1 (disagree...I´d give 8.5/10)
S4: 6.7 (disagree...I´d give 7.5/10)
STactics: 7.6 (disagree...I´d give 8/10)

See? They suck at...criticizing.

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Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad.

And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff.

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Post by: Razor on February 08, 2006, 06:58:58 PM

Yeah, Cait Sith sacrificised his first body in order to get the temple of the ancients to turn into the black materia. Follow this up with the soon to be events of the Forgotten Capitol... that part of the game got emotional quickly.

Disappointing fact: I only ever got two use Aeris' Ultimate Limit Break twice (at least in that first game that I got it in. I can't remember the following games.)

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FAMITSU GODDAMNIT, FAMITSU!

Famitsu is like, THE magazine to read if you want to filter crap from decent.

Yeah, well, screw Famitsu.
I got my own magazine with great writers, lots of humour, and great Australian... humour.

HYPER>>.

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Originally posted by Moosetroop11 quote: Originally posted by Grandy Hey, he is ONE character, is that same as saying FF7 is crap because of Caith Sith. Cait Sith's death made me cry. He was AWESOME. *Cries again*

ROFL...

Did Caith Sith die? I don´t remeber that...

Anyway, I can´t recall a single time I went against the critics opiniong and got clobberd...Sometimes the give terrible rates to a game and that just makes up your head, preventing you from having a possible fun.

My fav series is Suikoden. The rates, by gamespot:

S1: 6.5 (disagree...I´d give 8/10)
S2: 7.6 (disagree...I´d give 9/10)
S3: 9.1 (disagree...I´d give 8.5/10)
S4: 6.7 (disagree...I´d give 7.5/10)
STactics: 7.6 (disagree...I´d give 8/10)

See? They suck at...criticizing.

 Oh, yes, Caith Sith sacrificed himself to get the black materia, but due to the fact he was a robot, another one just like him appeared.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 08, 2006, 07:04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Trevlac

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Originally posted by Wire Frame Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad.

And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff.

...Trev he's from quebec <.< wtf

And by far, he has good points. It surprised me at the end that he said he didnt like it.

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Post by: Trevlac on February 08, 2006, 07:22:12 PM

Kijuki...I thought you were GC...*pwned*
I was like: "How did GC get KM's name?!?"

Anyway..."cool it on the First Amendment rights" is a figure of speech.

I was going to say something, but someone here at Tech started talking to me...so yeah..

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Post by: Razor on February 08, 2006, 07:29:52 PM

That's a figure of speech?
I've never heard anyone say it.
What a crappy figure of speech.

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Post by: Drace on February 08, 2006, 08:22:01 PM

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That's a figure of speech?
I've never heard anyone say it.
What a crappy figure of speech.

Agreereereereeree'D.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 08, 2006, 10:36:41 PM

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Originally posted by Razor
That's a figure of speech?
I've never heard anyone say it.
What a crappy figure of speech.

LOL!!! That was way too funny and random o.0

anyway, kh - Good game; but i just dun like it the way I would like to like it. How's that for self contraciting biased opinion o.0

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 08, 2006, 10:57:54 PM

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Originally posted by Trevlac

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Originally posted by Wire Frame Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad.

And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff.

Again, by looking at it, it looks kiddy. By looking at DDR, it looks like dancing. By looking at turned based battle screens of Final Fantasy, I expect it to be turn based durring battle. By looking at RE, I expect to kill abominations. By looking at God of War, I expect the game to have blood. By looking at playboy mansion, I expect to see boobies.

The "look" theroy can't be foiled. Hence: KH=teh kiddies.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 08, 2006, 11:16:31 PM

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Originally posted by Meiscool

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Originally posted by Trevlac quote: Originally posted by Wire Frame Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad. And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff.

Again, by looking at it, it looks kiddy. By looking at DDR, it looks like dancing. By looking at turned based battle screens of Final Fantasy, I expect it to be turn based durring battle. By looking at RE, I expect to kill abominations. By looking at God of War, I expect the game to have blood. By looking at playboy mansion, I expect to see boobies.

The "look" theroy can't be foiled. Hence: KH=teh kiddies.

It makes sense. but indeed we cannot judge by the looks. We can argue what it may represent, but not what it may contain.

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Post by: Desimodontidae on February 08, 2006, 11:43:59 PM

Look theory? Ok, well, lets say that every graphic, name, and place (chip-wise) was different. Sora is a Barbarian, Donald is a black mage, and goofy is a white mage, (if you'll excuse the clichee) and they all look radically differnet, nothing "kiddy" about them.

You go around to save the 7 princesess of each world (who are all hot, and semi-nude for some reason). The worlds are such as a barren wasteland, mines, and hell (something lke Mortal Kombat deception, even though the map layouts sucked). The enmies are all satanic demons spawned from hell.

Gameplay is the same. Now what? Can the game stand for itself? Or does it still suck?

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Post by: Grandy on February 09, 2006, 12:01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Meiscool

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Originally posted by Trevlac quote: Originally posted by Wire Frame Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad. And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff.

Again, by looking at it, it looks kiddy. By looking at DDR, it looks like dancing. By looking at turned based battle screens of Final Fantasy, I expect it to be turn based durring battle. By looking at RE, I expect to kill abominations. By looking at God of War, I expect the game to have blood. By looking at playboy mansion, I expect to see boobies.

The "look" theroy can't be foiled. Hence: KH=teh kiddies.

 http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20031006

 Now, I once had a game called "Pandemonium II", by the cover, you'd expect blood, carnage, serial killers. Now, once you put the game in the console, it looks like "Mickey Mouse Wonderful Vacations!" The look theory DOES. NOT. WORK.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 09, 2006, 12:07:13 AM

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Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki

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Originally posted by Meiscool quote: Originally posted by Trevlac quote: Originally posted by Wire Frame Who cares. If they don't like the game, it's their right. No need to convince them it is a good game. If someone dislike the game because it's Final Fantasy mixed with Disney, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of Bambi, it's their right. If they didn't like the game because of the storyline, it's their right. Personally, I didn't like it.  I just didn't like the storyline. Chain of memory was worst. The card system was bad. And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff. Again, by looking at it, it looks kiddy. By looking at DDR, it looks like dancing. By looking at turned based battle screens of Final Fantasy, I expect it to be turn based durring battle. By looking at RE, I expect to kill abominations. By looking at God of War, I expect the game to have blood. By looking at playboy mansion, I expect to see boobies. The "look" theroy can't be foiled. Hence: KH=teh kiddies.

It makes sense. but indeed we cannot judge by the looks. We can argue what it may represent, but not what it may contain.

EXACLY! That´s why I played the game till I met the mermaid.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 09, 2006, 12:11:24 AM

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Look theory? Ok, well, lets say that every graphic, name, and place (chip-wise) was different. Sora is a Barbarian, Donald is a black mage, and goofy is a white mage, (if you'll excuse the clichee) and they all look radically differnet, nothing "kiddy" about them.

You go around to save the 7 princesess of each world (who are all hot, and semi-nude for some reason). The worlds are such as a barren wasteland, mines, and hell (something lke Mortal Kombat deception, even though the map layouts sucked). The enmies are all satanic demons spawned from hell.

Gameplay is the same. Now what? Can the game stand for itself? Or does it still suck?

Doesn't sound kiddy to me anymore, and that's my point. I myself like games that are more mature rather then childish, thus why I disliked KH so much. I never anywhere in my look theroy stated that KH looked like crap so it was crap.

Grandy: I'm talking more about commericals or in-game screenshots/movies, not covers or ad-posters. Those just show you what you want to see, commericals and the likes actually show you what it is.

Kijuki_Magazaki: So true, and thus that's why I never put any ratings into the look theroy. Some people my like kiddy games, some like gorey, most like titties. It's all in preference, I'm just stating that how they look often is how they are. And, I dislike games for children.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on February 09, 2006, 08:19:03 AM

Okay, let me tell you how Famitsu works, and you will understand why a perfect rating is like, the shiz.

Famitsu doesn't work with one reviewer, not two, not even three, but four. They all four critisize the game, and give the game a rating between 1 and 10. Then, all points get to add up, making a maximum score of 40, and a minimum of 4.

THAT'S how you should see Famitsu.

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Post by: Drace on February 09, 2006, 01:25:54 PM

So these 4 guys are all robots and thus have no feelings, no own taste etc. etc. etc.?

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Post by: Wire Frame on February 09, 2006, 02:39:29 PM

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And who the bloody devil was arguing about rights?  I merely pointed out that saying a game is "crap" or "kiddie" without having first played it, is a load of hogwash.  Man, cool it on the First Amendment stuff.

I just didn't know what to say else than right. I mean if they don't like the game just by seeing it, no need to say it's stupid. This is their opinion. Whatever why and how they judge the game, it's still their opinion. If they don't like what they see about the game, they probably know they won't like it. If they say it's kiddie, it's probably because they don't like kiddie thing. You know, Disney is not for Mature people. Almost all movie from Disney are for kids. Sure, older people can watch them, but they were made for kid, so a game with Disney Characters may sound kiddie for some one. It's their opinion about the game. It's not stupid or a load of hogwash, like you said, it's just what they think about the game.
For exemple, did you play the Teletubbies game for PS? If not, look for image and tell me what you think of it.

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Post by: Trevlac on February 09, 2006, 11:16:39 PM

Look theory...what a wonderful logical fallacy this is.

And commercials don't show you the real game, what are you talking about?  A poster is just as much a medium as a television.  The media tend to air any commercial that fits U.S. guidlines, not if it doesn't show a biased representation.  Companies endorse their own commercials.  Why would you think commercials are better at showing you the real game than a poster?  Because it's actually "in-game"?  There have been many times that I have seen a screenshot and went "what a cool looking game!" and played it and brought it back to Blockbuster that night.

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Post by: Grandy on February 09, 2006, 11:37:00 PM

 Oh, of course, you mean TRAILERS, oh, my, my, I mean, it's just that time I bought the Ultimate Spiderman game (don't buy, it sucks), and it had an bonus trailer of X-Men Legends II, oh, and it showed only those cool movie cutscenes, with a great 3D and battle sequencies, and I thought "I MUST buy this game!" and I bought, and it SUCKS!

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 10, 2006, 12:11:21 AM

I still see famitsu as faminto, that in portuguese means hungry. :D

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Post by: Razor on February 10, 2006, 04:24:09 AM

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Originally posted by GaryCXJk
Okay, let me tell you how Famitsu works, and you will understand why a perfect rating is like, the shiz.

Famitsu doesn't work with one reviewer, not two, not even three, but four. They all four critisize the game, and give the game a rating between 1 and 10. Then, all points get to add up, making a maximum score of 40, and a minimum of 4.

THAT'S how you should see Famitsu.

Nah.

Just cause 4 people get together and review a game, doesn't mean I should care what they have to say. If I got Bush, Howard, Blair and... Hitler. Together to review FF7, would I care about the end result?

"Well I didn't quite understand how to play, the guides on the internets told me to press the X button, but all my controller had was a button with a + on it."
"I know one thing this game has. Foreign creators. Just another fine example of what can happen if I give all of Australia's jobs to foreigners."
"Tally ho, what what? I say, this game is right splendid, pip pip! Tea and crumpets?"
"HEIL EIN FUHRER!"


In the end, screw those guys.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on February 10, 2006, 05:23:42 AM

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Originally posted by Razor

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Originally posted by GaryCXJk Okay, let me tell you how Famitsu works, and you will understand why a perfect rating is like, the shiz. Famitsu doesn't work with one reviewer, not two, not even three, but four. They all four critisize the game, and give the game a rating between 1 and 10. Then, all points get to add up, making a maximum score of 40, and a minimum of 4. THAT'S how you should see Famitsu.

Nah.

Just cause 4 people get together and review a game, doesn't mean I should care what they have to say. If I got Bush, Howard, Blair and... Hitler. Together to review FF7, would I care about the end result?

"Well I didn't quite understand how to play, the guides on the internets told me to press the X button, but all my controller had was a button with a + on it."
"I know one thing this game has. Foreign creators. Just another fine example of what can happen if I give all of Australia's jobs to foreigners."
"Tally ho, what what? I say, this game is right splendid, pip pip! Tea and crumpets?"
"HEIL EIN FUHRER!"


In the end, screw those guys.

LMAO!!!!!!

Razor, ur a genious

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 10, 2006, 11:19:41 AM

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Originally posted by Razor

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Originally posted by GaryCXJk Okay, let me tell you how Famitsu works, and you will understand why a perfect rating is like, the shiz. Famitsu doesn't work with one reviewer, not two, not even three, but four. They all four critisize the game, and give the game a rating between 1 and 10. Then, all points get to add up, making a maximum score of 40, and a minimum of 4. THAT'S how you should see Famitsu.

Nah.

Just cause 4 people get together and review a game, doesn't mean I should care what they have to say. If I got Bush, Howard, Blair and... Hitler. Together to review FF7, would I care about the end result?

"Well I didn't quite understand how to play, the guides on the internets told me to press the X button, but all my controller had was a button with a + on it."
"I know one thing this game has. Foreign creators. Just another fine example of what can happen if I give all of Australia's jobs to foreigners."
"Tally ho, what what? I say, this game is right splendid, pip pip! Tea and crumpets?"
"HEIL EIN FUHRER!"


In the end, screw those guys.

LOL, excelent! Plus, Famitsu sounds like an Japanese maganize, so they must be like: "PrayStation goo!" or "Kingdomo Haruto goo!"...Japanese have a hard time speaking english...

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Post by: Grandy on February 10, 2006, 02:02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Razor

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Originally posted by GaryCXJk Okay, let me tell you how Famitsu works, and you will understand why a perfect rating is like, the shiz. Famitsu doesn't work with one reviewer, not two, not even three, but four. They all four critisize the game, and give the game a rating between 1 and 10. Then, all points get to add up, making a maximum score of 40, and a minimum of 4. THAT'S how you should see Famitsu.

Nah.

Just cause 4 people get together and review a game, doesn't mean I should care what they have to say. If I got Bush, Howard, Blair and... Hitler. Together to review FF7, would I care about the end result?

"Well I didn't quite understand how to play, the guides on the internets told me to press the X button, but all my controller had was a button with a + on it."
"I know one thing this game has. Foreign creators. Just another fine example of what can happen if I give all of Australia's jobs to foreigners."
"Tally ho, what what? I say, this game is right splendid, pip pip! Tea and crumpets?"
"HEIL EIN FUHRER!"


In the end, screw those guys.

 XD I must write it down for future inspiration.