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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Almeidaboo on February 21, 2006, 04:26:28 PM

Title: Give me History info...
Post by: Almeidaboo on February 21, 2006, 04:26:28 PM

I don´t wanna start anything here. I don´t want discussions about good, bad or whatever, because I have my own convictions on this matter. I want info.

Well, I´m not really well informed about Hitler and his likes and dislikes. And I don´t know why he hated the Jew. And that´s what I want to know.

You can post personal theories, of course, but this kind of information needs actual studying and concrete basis to be given. So no fooling, no joking and no flaming, please.

Why did Hitler hate the Jew?

EDIT: I know I´m 22, and that I study Law (therefore should know history a lot) and that I have fingers to type www.google.com, but I thought this could be an interesting oportunity to people to learn and to settle this matter once and for all.

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Post by: Grandy on February 21, 2006, 04:37:11 PM

There's a few thories:
 - His lover ran away with a Jew.
 - His lover who was a Jew ran away with someone
 - He needed someone to blame and start a war, the Jew were the perfect targets.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 21, 2006, 05:39:20 PM

The first 2 could really make a man mad (not about 11 million ppl, but anywat), but the 2nd one doesn´t seem to be something a inteligent guy, as Hitler is said to be, would take for a reason for genocide...

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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 21, 2006, 06:24:51 PM

One theory is that a lot of Germans had pent up anger against Jews. Hitler knew this and used it as a political tool to gain power and start WWII. But I'm not entirely sure on the accuracy of that.

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on February 21, 2006, 06:46:30 PM

If Hitler was only targeting Jews to win over the people, he wouldn't have excecuted them secretly.

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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 21, 2006, 07:23:03 PM

true. Hey, it was just a theory.

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Post by: Kinslayer on February 21, 2006, 08:34:01 PM

Well, to me, Hitler did not necesarilly hate the Jew. To me it was all a part of a plan to gain economical profit and to have free working man so that he could make advance his technollogy, and that plan was meant to take out the minorities (and if you look back at the 20's and 30's, in Germany the jews where the biggest minority).

 At the death camps, the prisoners (let them be jew, Jehová Testifiers, prostitutes, gitanos, some catholic priests that opposed Hitler, comunists and more) had their material belongings lost (not to mention that when they captured them, the nazis would take anything they could from their homes) and sold, creating a huge account, which Hitler had saved in Switzerland (it still remains there, and the people who have lost someone on a death camp cannot get it's belongings back).
Besides, the nazis had the prisoners working all day, and used them to make bullets, for example. The fact that more than 6 million jews where killed was because they where the biggest minority.

 If you want some proof, look at the economy that Germany had before Hitler, it was at a worse state than Argentina's economy (that's like, a huge lot), and after the WW2 (not to mention some help from the Marshal Plan) it rose again, and the economy at the WW2 wasn't as bad as it was before it. The extermination was meant to sustain the economy and, yes, Hitler wanted a "few" (the heck of a lot) bucks for himself, that's what that account at Switzerland is.

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Post by: Shady Ultima on February 21, 2006, 08:59:25 PM

Fun fact - Hitler claimed that anyone who had a grandparent that was a jew, was, through blood, a jew. Guess what Hitler's mother was... yup, a Jew.

Another - The reason Hitler killed the Jews was partially because he believed that the Germans were the Aryan race. Aryan means they are superior to all else. Hitler really believed in the evolution theory, the strong survive and the weak perish. He believed the world should be made up of blonde haired, blue eyed, Germans, and nothing else. The funny thing is... Hitler had brown hair and brown eyes...

Hitler fought in WW1, but was injured near the end. He was in the hospital when he heard that Germany had surrendered to the British alliance. He left home and tried to become a painter, but failing in this, he turned to politics. He knew that the Germans needed a scapegoat for the loss of the war, and since the Jews did not fight in WW1, it was very simple for him to blame them. He kicked them out of their homes and first sent them into a ghetto, before eventually moving them to concentration camps.

With his genious ideas for the country, he soon was elected to be the ruler of Germany. He established a Secret Service, which he used to assassinate all of the other possible candidates for office, and his reign began. Hitler began conscription, as well as the Hitler's youth, so that he would have an army ready to conquer the world.

With his army growing fast in numbers, and the Jews gone from the streets, Hitler marched on Austria, and the UN gave him permission to conquer the land. He marched through Austria unopposed, and took control. He then went to Czechoslovakia and was then also given free reign.

Britain now noticed that Hitler was not going to stop with just a few countries and began trying to contact The Soviet Union for an alliance. But, Hitler already had been there, with a secret non agression treaty, and took care of the fear of an attack from behind.

World War II broke out when Hitler tried to conquer Poland, and Hitler, along with the USSR conquered Poland.

I'm not going to go into what happened in the actual events of WWII, I am just going to skip to the end of Hitler's life.

On April 20, 1945, Hitler's 56th birthday, The Soviets were at the gates of Berlin, slowly coming closer to the Fuhrer and his most loyal servants. After many futile attempts to stop the Soviets, Hitler made his dog swallow a cyanide pill, and then he and his newly wed bride Eva Braun commited suicide on April 30th 1945. They were burned in a artillery crater, and buried.

Shortly afterwards Germany surrendered, and WWII was over.

There is a really great article on Hitler at Wikipedia  Hitler - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler)

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Post by: carmen on February 22, 2006, 12:03:30 PM

all of those ideas weren't his.
Infact, he was looked at as a sort of "chosen one" by his mentor who taught him a great deal of his ideals.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 22, 2006, 04:12:08 PM

That´s all very informing, thanks all of you.

So, the guy was a product of some ideology that really impressed him...never knew that.

Although it´s in the past, everyone should have plenty of knowledge about history to have basis for a critical mind, preparing themselves to judge the events that are meant to come sooner or later.

I hope this was useful and informing to more people other than me.

Thanks again!

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on February 22, 2006, 05:27:01 PM

Its the jews fault that Germany was in an economic depression, and the reason that they lost WW1. They are also the cause of Germany's economic and social problems. They are of an inferior (non-Aryan) race, and therefore, must be eliminated.

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Post by: WarxePB on February 22, 2006, 06:14:10 PM

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Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
Its the jews fault that Germany was in an economic depression, and the reason that they lost WW1. They are also the cause of Germany's economic and social problems. They are of an inferior (non-Aryan) race, and therefore, must be eliminated.

And eagles fly out of my ***.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on February 22, 2006, 06:50:08 PM

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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
And eagles fly out of my ***.

That´s...a surreal vision.

Don´t give him ears, he says that just to piss people off. I mean, he´s a mexican looking aryan! (no offense, but you look kinda mexican Asakura...)

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Post by: Desimodontidae on February 22, 2006, 07:47:43 PM

People say that when I put my hair back... of course, my heritage is actually Brittish.