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Title: Moon Landing Hoax...
Post by: Seth Mitchell on March 08, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
I was talking to my teacher today, and he told me that he doen't beleive that americans landed on the moon. So argued with him for like 30 mins about, and finaly just gave up. So I did some research today, and there are alot of testamonies about it. What do y'all think.
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Post by: neb87 on March 08, 2006, 11:25:15 PM
I think we did but i could be wrong!
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Post by: Cerebus on March 08, 2006, 11:28:45 PM
Well... I head that too... one of my teacher said it was, because on the video ( she said there was one ) we could see the flag Flapping ( if it's the word ) like if there was wind. However, that's what I've heard...
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Post by: Spike21 on March 08, 2006, 11:29:24 PM
.... you do not want to know what i think... but who gives a crap i do not think the AMERICANS went to the moon. Like when i went to a nasa simulation flight. all the real pictures they had had of people on the moon had to stars NO STARS. but i think most things the us government does is fake, scam, or kept secret. i do not think its a hoax i think its a fake in order to bet the russians because we are so cocky
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Post by: shadus on March 08, 2006, 11:34:26 PM
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Originally posted by Cerebus
Well... I head that too... one of my teacher said it was, because on the video ( she said there was one ) we could see the flag Flapping ( if it's the word ) like if there was wind. However, that's what I've heard...


Well there's no wind but also no gavaty so shouldn't the falg flap or flote around?
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Post by: Seth Mitchell on March 08, 2006, 11:41:17 PM
The explanation for the flaping flag is begause the at first he was holding it, and it moved as he held and twisted it. And when the left the falg, he had just twisted it.
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Post by: Spike21 on March 08, 2006, 11:41:31 PM
there is gravity but its very little very very very little.
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Post by: Bluhman on March 08, 2006, 11:47:52 PM
Simple. The flag flaps because It had inertia from the space flight, not because there was wind, or a lack of gravity.. Well, gravity has to do with the whole inertia deal.
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Post by: Grandy on March 08, 2006, 11:56:33 PM
 The flag does that because of some supports they made so it would look like it was, or so they claim.

 They also claim you can't see stars because "Hoiw many times do you took a picture of the sky and there were starts?"
 I answer: Hello, earth to NASA, are you hearing me in that strange planet where picture's don't show stars?
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Post by: Kinslayer on March 09, 2006, 12:02:33 AM
Well, there are more things that make people doubt that the USA reached the moon on 1969. For excample, the exact range of the pictures they took, they where too accurate, for having the camera attached to the chest, the astronauts could not watch exactly what where they aiming at with the cameras.

Besides, there is a film showing the ship taking off the moon, so or they had an automatic camera they left behind or... THERE WAS A FOURTH ASTRONAUT THEY LEFT BEHIND!!! GASP!!!!!! (the astronaut part is a joke of course... meh :p)

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Post by: Spike21 on March 09, 2006, 12:25:34 AM
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Originally posted by Grandy
The flag does that because of some supports they made so it would look like it was, or so they claim.

 They also claim you can't see stars because "Hoiw many times do you took a picture of the sky and there were starts?"
 I answer: Hello, earth to NASA, are you hearing me in that strange planet where picture's don't show stars?


dude they had other pictures with stars in it and it was of the earth from satilles and every picture from the moon with people had no stars
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Post by: Grandy on March 09, 2006, 12:29:49 AM
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Originally posted by Grandy
The flag does that because of some supports they made so it would look like it was, or so they claim.

 They also claim you can't see stars because "Hoiw many times do you took a picture of the sky and there were starts?"
 I answer: Hello, earth to NASA, are you hearing me in that strange planet where picture's don't show stars?


dude they had other pictures with stars in it and it was of the earth from satilles and every picture from the moon with people had no stars


 Yes, that's exactly what I said.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on March 09, 2006, 12:35:03 AM
The moon landing wasn't fake, seriously, they spent years and years on it, IF they would make a fake video to show they went on the moon, you'd think that they'd plan it out well enough so that no one would think it was a hoax.

Cameras back then weren't that sharp, or at least they weren't as sharp as they are now. If stars didn't show up, it was probably because the white specs just blended in with the black background.

The shot of the shuttle taking off... Yeah, they left things behind on the moon such as the flag, they probably left the camera there too.

I watched a video on the flag thingy. When they set it down, the flag was in suspended animation, they then took it and positioned it so that it was straight rectangle. Ripples would be caused by them moving the flag. If you move a ball in space, its going to keep on moving in that dirrection for a long time since there isn't any resistance on the ball. If they moved the position of the flag, the flag is going to be in movement, and its not going to stop for a long time since there wouldn't be any resistance against it, hence the ripple effect.

So no, the moon landing wasn't a hoax. We've gone around the moon numerous times, its not much harder to put a person on it and bring them up if they were already there.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 09, 2006, 12:48:52 AM
I think we were first on the moon. One theory I've been piddling with is that in order to beat Russia we staged a landing to make them lose hope, then we went with our new time.
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Post by: Spike21 on March 09, 2006, 01:10:23 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
I think we were first on the moon. One theory I've been piddling with is that in order to beat Russia we staged a landing to make them lose hope, then we went with our new time.


hmmm that sounds good... and db do not be so cocky and sure about that
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Post by: Desimodontidae on March 09, 2006, 01:14:14 AM
Uber meh.

The flag had aluminum rods in it to make it stand.

The sun reflected from the moon blocked out the stars, kind of like how you can't see stars in big cities at night because of all the light.

But EHH. Do I believe it was a hoax... no. But do I think that it is possible that it was... yes. We did have reason, the red scare.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on March 09, 2006, 01:18:03 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
I think we were first on the moon. One theory I've been piddling with is that in order to beat Russia we staged a landing to make them lose hope, then we went with our new time.


hmmm that sounds good... and db do not be so cocky and sure about that


Err, well I wasn't trying to be cocky before, but I am pretty sure that I'm write. The 'thought' of the moon landing being fake was pretty much blown out of the water. I believe that the moon landing was fake just about as much as I people are getting abducted by aliens. There is no real evidence that the moon landing was fake.
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Post by: Seth Mitchell on March 09, 2006, 01:19:55 AM
What about aliens, what is everyones thoughts on them.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on March 09, 2006, 01:22:03 AM
Aliens exsist, it is very unprobably that earth is the only planet out of trillions and trillions with life on it. However, I don't believe that aliens are coming to earth and abducting people.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 09, 2006, 01:44:25 AM
I DO believe in aliens, but I do not believe that the majority of "abductions" are real. I believe that they do the same thing that we do in the rainforest. We observe and let them live, and I bleieve they do the same.
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Post by: Cerebus on March 09, 2006, 02:17:20 AM
I believe in alien... Like DragonBlaze said, or almost, we can't be the only planet that has life on it. I just don't believe they look like those of movies... or South Park's.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 09, 2006, 02:19:44 AM
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I DO believe in aliens, but I do not believe that the majority of "abductions" are real.


Exactly. Why would aliens take us up to their space shipper just to ***-rape us?
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Post by: WarxePB on March 09, 2006, 02:26:45 AM
Moon Landing Hoax: Let me make this clear: The people who say that the moon landing is a hoax are the same people who say that the stock market is controlled by a group of people so secret they don't even know about themselves, the US Military is keeping aliens at Area 51 in an attempt to reverse-engineer their technology, and that the dinosaurs nuked themselves into oblivion and caused an ice age. It just doesn't work.

Aliens: Of course's there's other intelligent life in the universe. If they've visited Earth, I'm sure that we'll know everything soon enough.
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Post by: Snake Eater on March 09, 2006, 02:48:43 AM
Yeah, I agree with DragonBlaze. The Moon landing was REAL.

Also, yeah, I think Aliens exist, but they aren't abducting us....

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Post by: Desimodontidae on March 09, 2006, 02:59:43 AM
Tsh.

N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x l

So obviously aliens exist.
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Post by: Snake Eater on March 09, 2006, 03:19:34 AM
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Originally posted by Desimodontidae
Tsh.

N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x l

So obviously aliens exist.

Er.... Yes?
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on March 09, 2006, 04:44:49 AM
i dun care. everybody has gone to the moon now, so pff
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Post by: shadus on March 09, 2006, 06:15:09 AM
Me being in the U.S makes some of you guys aliens to me.
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Post by: Razor on March 09, 2006, 06:26:20 AM
Let me play Spore first.
Then maybe I'll consider aliens a possibility.
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Post by: Prpl_Mage on March 09, 2006, 06:54:01 AM
From what Iīve heard, the U.S made that tape before they went of to the moon, and the reasons was that the ship had flaws and it wasnīt sure that they would return alive to the earth. Or that they would even get too the moon, for Russia and the U.S this was a power struggle and they wanted to show who had more power.

Well thatīs what our teachers say....

And about aliens, there might be aliens, but the chances are pretty small I guess. Itīs the same thing as talking about paralel worlds and that this is just an ilusion, you canīt be sure, because you doesnīt have any proof.
So if there are humanoid and inteligent aliens, maybe there are. I donīt really care, aslong as they stay where they are now.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on March 09, 2006, 09:31:42 AM
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Originally posted by Desimodontidae
Tsh.

N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x l

So obviously aliens exist.

Er.... Yes?
Seti@Home.
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Post by: MrMister on March 09, 2006, 03:05:27 PM
You anti-American fucks.
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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on March 09, 2006, 07:50:56 PM
I support the idea of aliens.

But I do not like the steriotypes out there. Maybe they haven't contacted us because THEY CAN'T!! Maybe they are still in their version of the prehistoric age, ever think about that?

Where're your theories now, huh nerds!!??
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Post by: Bluhman on March 09, 2006, 07:55:38 PM
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I support the idea of aliens.

But I do not like the steriotypes out there. Maybe they haven't contacted us because THEY CAN'T!! Maybe they are still in their version of the prehistoric age, ever think about that?

Where're your theories now, huh nerds!!??


You're being redundant. Read what Dragonblaze, ZKX, and Warxe said, foo!

(Well, maybe not warxe, but somebody else... WHATEVER.)
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Post by: Drace on March 09, 2006, 08:23:23 PM
Moon landing: real.
Aliens: exist.

That was my 2 cents.
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Post by: rush_fan on March 09, 2006, 08:36:44 PM
has anyone heard that people think aliens built the pyramids-

I don't know what to believe....
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Post by: Desimodontidae on March 09, 2006, 09:10:43 PM
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Tsh.

N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x l

So obviously aliens exist.

Er.... Yes?
Seti@Home.


Heh, I was wondering if anyone would get the referance.

But then again, some of the variables in the drake equation are just estimates that could be anything. Although I don't doubt alien life. "Sight Unseen" is a good book.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on March 10, 2006, 02:10:52 AM
How could aliens not exist? You look up into the night sky, and there's a bizillion stars staring back at you, you think that in none of those galaxies there's not another kind of intelligent life form staring back at us?

Here's a thought, what if there were other planets out there exactly like earth? Maybe not geographically, but like, human like, (exact) aliens? Would it really be impossible? Scientists say the Universe never ends, they don't know for sure, but there's still a hell of a lot of stars up there. And every star has got like 1 to a million planets circling it. We may not even know all the planets circling OUR sun. There could be some planet far off out there past pluto, stuck in our orbit. We just don't know.

There could be clingons and wookies flying Millenium Falcons. There could be War of the Worlds going on, and we're just stuck in the corner somewhere where nothing's going on because we haven't developed the technology to go far enough into space.

Oh, and I believe the Moon Landing is real. For basically the same reasons as DB, Desi, and others.
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Post by: Spike21 on March 10, 2006, 02:20:58 AM
i for one do not believe in aliens. i think the uneverse does not go on forever it over laps itself in a weird folding matter. i look up at the night sky and say "How can people think aliens exist" it just it is hard to have the exact enviorment for life.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 10, 2006, 02:22:13 AM
It's true, they landed on the moon, but it wasn't Armstrong, it was Razor.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 10, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Watch Stargate. That'll get ya thinking. Aliens existed and we populated the galaxy, but each planet had its own creation theory. What if we were one of the planets that had migrants?  Think about that.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on March 10, 2006, 08:17:57 PM
Well, in my opinion, the whole overlapping idea is kidna flawed. How could it overlap? That in itself doesn't make sense, unless the universe was orb like, but that's kind of flawed too.

Ever read the Dragonriders of Pern series? Real good series about migrants from Earth onto this planet called Pern. I think it could be possible that that's what happened. Matbe Jesus was someone from our mother planet diguised to see how we're doing? lol, bad connection, I know.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on March 10, 2006, 09:28:40 PM
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It's true, they landed on the moon, but it wasn't Armstrong, it was Razor.

He's right, you know. I have the tapes. Seriously though, alines exist, just probably not very close to Earth. I feel that they're only AT THE MOST a few hundred years more advanced than us, so don't expect them to contact us. Chances are, they're LESS advanced than us! By thousands of years or MORE, no less! And the moon landing did occur, but it was faked at first to dissuade the Russians and give the U.S. more time to get it right. Damned Communist... uh... Commies!
And, just because I enjoy what the english language is SUPPOSED to be like...
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...Scientists say the Universe never ends...and we're just stuck in the corner somewhere where nothing's going on...

Notice anything contradictory?


lol, figure of speech my friend, figure of speech.
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 11, 2006, 12:36:40 PM
As for the moon landing, it did occur. Not only because I said so, but also because the soviets had AT LEAST 5-10 satellites trained on us. Why would we send a rocket into space (worth millions I might add) and then go film it in a bunker.

And aliens? This is why Aliens (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=aliens) won't contact us.
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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on March 11, 2006, 01:32:30 PM
That guy has issues.
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Post by: Red XIII on March 12, 2006, 01:06:27 AM
About the moon thingy, maybe itīs real, maybe itīs not. I saw a documentarie (One of those crazy- theory tipes)
But, unlike other theories, they had something weird: Some of the photos were modified. I mean, there has to be something behind that. Why would the NASA guys modify the pictures if the moon travel was real?


And to me, the Drake Equation is really something. Ther is no way we are alone.

Now the question, are Aliens more advanced or less advanced?

I think that there are many planets with many species. Some are more advanced, some are more primitive.
But I donīt think they have made contact, ther is a good explanation for every story weīve heard.
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Post by: Spike21 on March 12, 2006, 01:24:57 AM
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Why would we send a rocket into space (worth millions I might add) and then go film it in a bunker.


because we are american
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on March 12, 2006, 02:46:29 AM
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i for one do not believe in aliens. i think the uneverse does not go on forever it over laps itself in a weird folding matter. i look up at the night sky and say "How can people think aliens exist" it just it is hard to have the exact enviorment for life.


Aliens most likely wouldn't have the same environment as us.  They might not breathe, they maybe wouldn't eat.  They possibly don't even have DNA.  If you think about how life evolved on Earth, it was all because of how things reacted with the environment.  People say "only Earth can support life because only it has the ideal conditions".  No, Earth only has the ideal conditions for Earthian Creatures!  If Aliens exist, they would have evolved to THEIR planet's conditions, not ours. Duh!

Why do people always think of aliens as more evolved than us?  It's just as likely for them to be some plankton-like stuff as that they'll be some super-beings.  Any smart aliens would avoid Earth.  We're so dooming our planet to extinction.

I'm inpartial to whether the moon landing was a hoax or not, but if it was real, it's odd how America hasn't taken advantage of it.  You know, bubble-cities and such.

Did anyone hear that we now have 2nd moon?  It's only as big as a house and has some messed-up orbit, but now we have two moons!
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Post by: Spike21 on March 12, 2006, 02:51:21 AM
pfft yeah a million years old earth evoled creatures... im not going to argue on this one. *nods head and walks away*
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 12, 2006, 03:11:28 AM
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Even if aliens had the technology to contact us, our tv shows would scare them off. Anyone seen a show called Bobobo-Bo-Bobobo? Fuckin' retarded as hell. Yet somehow kinda funny.


Whaddya mean kinda? That show kicks ***!

"Ah, the Battleship 5 Quartet! Wait.... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6!? Theres 6 of you!?"
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Post by: Darkfox on March 12, 2006, 05:07:36 AM
Wait... are you trying to tell me there is no cheese on the moon!? Why God, WHY!?
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 12, 2006, 12:21:07 PM
Come on... From what I saw of it, the guy freakin' fights with his hair!
How do you fight with your hair??

And also, maybe it's some kind of Halo thing or something, where they're planning to attack us, yet only about 10-20 years more advanced than us. Perhaps they can't pick who to contact because of our 1000+ languages on earth.
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Post by: Solstacefaerie on March 12, 2006, 03:20:52 PM
The moon landing was real. Ask an astronaut.
The same people who think the moon landing was a hoax believe in area 51, don't believe the holocaust ever happened, and think aliens are controlling our minds.

Personally, I don't think aliens exist. I'd think that we would've found something to suggest they exist by now, like living cells on another planet or something. Could be wrong, though.
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Post by: shadus on March 12, 2006, 05:01:33 PM
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Come on... From what I saw of it, the guy freakin' fights with his hair!
How do you fight with your hair??B]


It's called The Fist Of The Noise Hair.I can't whach that show it's so weard..
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Post by: drenrin2120 on March 12, 2006, 05:23:50 PM
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Personally, I don't think aliens exist. I'd think that we would've found something to suggest they exist by now, like living cells on another planet or something. Could be wrong, though.


Well think of it this way, we can't even make it out of our own Solar System, how can we really be sure about life in other Solar Systems? Plus, even though we send robots and stuff to Mars. It takes so many years, and even when we land there, you can be certain there's more than a few things we don't see through that robot's tiny little camera.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 12, 2006, 06:10:31 PM
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And aliens? This is why Aliens won't contact us.


No.... they are just waiting for Chuck Norris to die before they invade.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 12, 2006, 07:14:14 PM
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Come on... From what I saw of it, the guy freakin' fights with his hair!
How do you fight with your hair??B]


It's called The Fist Of The Noise Hair.I can't whach that show it's so weard..


And Fist of the Backwind. And Fist of the Tissue Box Shoes.

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The same people who think the moon landing was a hoax believe in area 51


Area 51 IS real. The existence of the air base itself is not what is unsure of, but what is contained within it. I personally believe that what was recovered from the Roswell crash was taken and is currenty stored. I do not believe that any alien bodies were recovered. However, it is highly possible in my belief that SOMETHING was traken from the crash. It may have been the downed weather balloon, but what ever it was, it was the physical pieces to a UFO. UFO DOES NOT mean alien ship. If a sandwich was thrown in the air and you didn't know what it was, the sandwich is officially a UFO.
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 12, 2006, 07:28:25 PM
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If a sandwich was thrown in the air and you didn't know what it was, the sandwich is officially a UFO.


YES!!
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Post by: charaman on March 12, 2006, 07:38:46 PM
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Originally posted by shadus
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Come on... From what I saw of it, the guy freakin' fights with his hair!
How do you fight with your hair??B]


It's called The Fist Of The Noise Hair.I can't whach that show it's so weard..


And Fist of the Backwind. And Fist of the Tissue Box Shoes.

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The same people who think the moon landing was a hoax believe in area 51


Area 51 IS real. The existence of the air base itself is not what is unsure of, but what is contained within it. I personally believe that what was recovered from the Roswell crash was taken and is currenty stored. I do not believe that any alien bodies were recovered. However, it is highly possible in my belief that SOMETHING was traken from the crash. It may have been the downed weather balloon, but what ever it was, it was the physical pieces to a UFO. UFO DOES NOT mean alien ship. If a sandwich was thrown in the air and you didn't know what it was, the sandwich is officially a UFO. [/B]


I've heard from people that it is pretty safe to say that the military has developed technology 20 years ahead of the rest of the world in that facility. That's scary to think about.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on March 12, 2006, 07:43:09 PM
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Come on... From what I saw of it, the guy freakin' fights with his hair!
How do you fight with your hair??B]


It's called The Fist Of The Noise Hair.I can't whach that show it's so weard..


And Fist of the Backwind. And Fist of the Tissue Box Shoes.

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The same people who think the moon landing was a hoax believe in area 51


Area 51 IS real. The existence of the air base itself is not what is unsure of, but what is contained within it. I personally believe that what was recovered from the Roswell crash was taken and is currenty stored. I do not believe that any alien bodies were recovered. However, it is highly possible in my belief that SOMETHING was traken from the crash. It may have been the downed weather balloon, but what ever it was, it was the physical pieces to a UFO. UFO DOES NOT mean alien ship. If a sandwich was thrown in the air and you didn't know what it was, the sandwich is officially a UFO. [/B]


I've heard from people that it is pretty safe to say that the military has developed technology 20 years ahead of the rest of the world in that facility. That's scary to think about.[/B]


Yeah. And go back to the Rpswell accounts. People described things they saw that are almost EXACTLY like modern appliances.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on March 12, 2006, 09:14:36 PM
We're not talking about aliens being more advanced than us, here. If they contacted us, they'd have to be much, much, MUCH more advanced. Lightspeed wouldn't cut it, unless they live for millions of years. THings would die before they got here.
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on March 12, 2006, 10:50:10 PM
...Or want to die WHEN they get here.
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Post by: Darkfox on March 12, 2006, 11:48:31 PM
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If a sandwich was thrown in the air and you didn't know what it was, the sandwich is officially a UFO.


YES!!


No no no, a UEO, Unidentified Edible Object.
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Post by: Drace on March 13, 2006, 06:47:39 AM
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The moon landing was real. Ask an astronaut.
The same people who think the moon landing was a hoax believe in area 51, don't believe the holocaust ever happened, and think aliens are controlling our minds.

Personally, I don't think aliens exist. I'd think that we would've found something to suggest they exist by now, like living cells on another planet or something. Could be wrong, though.


I believe aliens are controlling America. I like to call them the... 'Bush' species.
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Post by: Linkizcool on March 13, 2006, 04:34:58 PM
We DID find living cells on a meteorite a couple of years back.