Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 12:57:00 AM
one in the pit of hell
one in a freezing wasteland
one in a dense jungle
one in a tall mountain
one in a place for mourning
one in a place of light
one in a mysterious village
and one in a vast lake.
together, they have the power to defeat evil.
He decided to collect these items so he could protect the village. Little does he know of thier true purpose...
Characters:
Ancara: 30
The village guard. He's a careful man who never takes lite of evil, ever. He acts tough but is really a nice guy (once you get to know him). He attacks with his trusty axe.
Masaid: 17
a botonist with a firey temper. get her mad, and you'll regret it. She hates people know mess her experiments up. She uses her medicines to cause various status effects to happen.
Yomoko: 24
A samurai who has a great sense of humor. Once in a while, he'll crack out with a joke. He's an all-around good guy. He attacks with the Thico blade, a thin but deadly sword.
Zepher: 45
a genius with an IQ that would make your brain explode. He is a loner, an outcast. he prefers to be by himself when he needs to. He uses various inventions to heal and hurt.
this game is basicly a game where you try to -spoiler removed-.
oh, and here's a screen to get you started on seeing what my game will look like.
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 23, 2006, 01:03:58 AM
The idea of going off in search of objects like this started in the first Final Fantasy where you searched for the crystals. It continued like that to FF5. A lot of other games have done it as well such as legend of dragoon, bahamut lagoon, and many more. The games like FF that used it were nice, but thats because when they used it it was original.
You're map is also pretty poor, its too blocky, and just wierd.
It seems as though you're fairly new to rpg maker. Which there is nothing wrong with it. I encourage you to continue working with it and this project and you'll get better. :)
Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 01:22:51 AM
oh, and here's a better picture of the world map (sorry about the black water):
Post by: shadus on March 23, 2006, 01:23:27 AM
Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 01:27:16 AM
ok, in the game, Ancara can can a skill that can do tons of damage to an opponent, but he has a 50-50 chance of dying.
also, three of the bosses in the game have captured the other characters.
Post by: Muraiko on March 23, 2006, 01:28:18 AM
Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 01:34:48 AM
I want the real plan of the evil wizzard to be a scret until it's revealed (much later in the game).
also, be prepared for some suprises that make you scream with happiness when you see em.
Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 01:48:47 AM
oh, and this is how you spell it: devil.
Post by: Muraiko on March 23, 2006, 01:54:42 AM
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nope, it didn't.
oh, and this is how you spell it: devil.
OH MY GOSH! IT WAS SO OBVIOUS! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF PUTTING IN AN I INSTEAD OF AN E!!!!
Post by: Muraiko on March 23, 2006, 01:56:27 AM
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 23, 2006, 01:57:36 AM
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ok, you want original, you got it.
ok, in the game, Ancara can can a skill that can do tons of damage to an opponent, but he has a 50-50 chance of dying.
also, three of the bosses in the game have captured the other characters.l
That skill is pretty cool, but I don't think a skill like that would really help to make your game more original as a whole.
The bosses capturing the characters could actually make the game worse :( If you have to go out to each boss indevidually and rescue them, then it probably will.
Here, I belive you deserve an explanation why searching for objects, characters, crystals, or whatever it is, is a bad thing. Searching for one object is fine, theres nothing at all wrong with it. Its perfectly fine to have king or something send you to an old temple to retrieve a relic. Its ok to retrieve multiple things, like if that king told you to go to three temples and retrieve objects from them. The part where it gets bad would be if the king would ask you to go to those temples, but that takes up half the plot.
When you have the character go off in search of objects or whatever, they know what they're doing, and they know whats going on until the retrieve the last object. In the early final fantasy games, I knew exactly what I was doing the whole game, searching for the crystals. When the player can pretty much predict what they'll be doing for most of the game. Even if theres twists and other parts to the game besides searching for the objects, the game is still based on searching for objects.
Besides just being bad because the player can predict what they're going to be doing, the type of plot has been used over and over again hundreds of times. Sure your plot will be differant, but the format will be the same.
I played through Legend of Dragoon, the game had you search for moon objects for the first 3 disks. For the first three disks I was bored out of my mind because I knew exactly what I was going to be doing for the rest of the game. Sure they talked about other stuff and made the plot interesting, but that never changed the fact that I knew what I would be doing for the majority of the plot. Then, after you found all the moon objects, you had to go on a simular mission and find 3 new things which made the game even more boring for me.
So the longer you're searching for these things, the worse it gets.
I'm sorry I had to put down your game, I really am. But this is something that everyone has to learn eventually. If it wasnt me, someone else down the line would have said the same thing.
Though another thing you have to learn is that if you really want to make a game, you have to stick with it even if other people don't like it. You have to make this game for yourself, all that matters is that you like it and you enjoy working on it.
Post by: shadus on March 23, 2006, 02:02:26 AM
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=10754&forumid=29&catid=6
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=13104&forumid=29&catid=6
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8350&forumid=29&catid=6
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?forumid=29&catid=6&threadid=15456
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?forumid=29&catid=6&threadid=15557
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=14984&forumid=29&catid=6
Post by: Muraiko on March 23, 2006, 02:05:49 AM
Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 09:21:59 PM
Ancara:
Masaid:
Yomoko:
Zepher:
I hope that you're all happy now.
Post by: Muraiko on March 23, 2006, 09:30:13 PM
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You wanna see the characters, here they are:
Ancara:
I hope that you're all happy now.
HOLY COW!!! Those guys are RTP! Don't you think that maybe you should at least change them, so like it would be more of your own idea? Trust me, RTP really blocks off your creativity, and also, you, and prabably others would think it was much cooler if it wasn't RTP.
Why not just use the charas generators for all the characters, or you could just go ahead and use paint to make them all be YOUR own work of art. Everybody does that.
Post by: ancara on March 23, 2006, 09:44:39 PM
Anyways, how do I make with Charas Generator to work on RPG maker 2003?
Post by: Raen Ryong on March 23, 2006, 10:33:23 PM
1. Backdrops are now slightly larger in terms of height. Rm2k ones will still work, however.
2. There is a Battle2 folder which the original didn't have, basically massive battle animations.
3. Due to the change in battle systems, it is necessary to use both BattleCharsets and Battle Weapons.
4. Frame is now added: allows you to have a little "picture frame" around your game, or whatever. I generally don't use this as it is very rigid: use pictures instead.
5. System2 is the system inside battles.
NOTHING ELSE CHANGES. So, the charas generator will still successfully churn out Facesets and Charsets for your project.
As for your game, I'm afraid I share DragonBlaze's views. There's no reason whatsoever to scrap your game, as you should make a game for your own enjoyment paramount to that of others, and the best way to get better at using RPG Maker is simply to make many games on it. Seriously, you improve so much just through making many projects... the current one I'm on (and the only one worth putting on charas project :p ) is my 4th project. Keep at it, after a while you'll look back and see how much progress you've made. I know I have.
Post by: zsoft on March 23, 2006, 11:38:41 PM
http://www.emulazone.com/Reviews/Nes/AdventureIsland2/ai1.gif
-lol-
Post by: Ruler of the Dark on March 23, 2006, 11:44:33 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 24, 2006, 02:11:15 AM
Post by: ancara on March 24, 2006, 03:07:54 PM
When he was young, people always treated him cruel. He tried his best to get some respect from his family, but they hated him. He decided to run away from home. He found an old, abandoned castle after he did quite a bit of running away. He went in it and found a library full of books. Since he had nothing else, he started reading the books. He saw that the books had magic spells in them. He learned how to use them and became powerful. Once he finished reading the last book the library had, he decided to use his magic to get revenge on those people. After all, they always treated him like a peice of scum. He used powerful summuning spells to send armies of monsters to his home island and destroyed it. He decided that he should rule the world if he wanted to make sure that nobody treated him the way the people on that island did. He read in a book about a powerful artifact with power to rule the earth. He decided that he should get it to rule the world and make sure he gets what he wants.
What do ya think?
Post by: shadus on March 24, 2006, 03:12:14 PM
Post by: ancara on March 24, 2006, 03:25:13 PM
Me? The evil wizzard? the guys critisizing my work? the giant dancing banana behind you?
Post by: shadus on March 24, 2006, 03:37:25 PM
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Who are you talking about?
Me? The evil wizzard? the guys critisizing my work? the giant dancing banana behind you?
All but you.
Post by: ancara on March 24, 2006, 03:40:53 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 24, 2006, 10:31:15 PM
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so, what do you think about the reason why the evil wizzard wants to do what he's doing?
Your mom.
Post by: Shadowless1 on March 24, 2006, 10:57:38 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on March 25, 2006, 12:05:04 AM
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quote: Originally posted by ancara
so, what do you think about the reason why the evil wizzard wants to do what he's doing?
Your mom.
Meiscool, shup up, that had absolutely nothing to do with the question he asked.
The reason isn't that bad, but I don't think its really too good either. Some people treated him like crap, so now he wants to destroy the whole world? I can see him getting revenge on the town that he was from or what not, but something bigger has to happen to him if he wants to destory the world. Maybe you could have something where after he started using all this dark magic to destory the first town, the magic had a side effect and now the darkness is slowly eating away his soul making him less and less human every day. My point is, something else has to go on for him to want to destory the world.
And it probably woudln't be good for him to "destory" the world, have it more like he wants to rule it.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on March 25, 2006, 12:54:00 AM
Post by: ancara on March 27, 2006, 05:21:35 PM
Meiscool: that's not what happens, you dum-dum.
Post by: Muraiko on March 27, 2006, 08:46:33 PM
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And it probably woudln't be good for him to "destory" the world, have it more like he wants to rule it.[/B]
Rule the world? Isn't that like... what most bad guys want to do in most shows... I mean, think of the show dragon ball Z. First, Freiza (I dunno if that's how you spell it, I don't care) wanted to rule the world, then after him, cell wanted to rule the world, then after that, Buu wanted to rule the world (I think) and then it goes on and on with the never ending chain of bad guys wanting to rule the world.
I'm not saying that it's a "bad" reason, just that... well... I dunno. I dunno why I posted this. All well.
Post by: shadus on March 27, 2006, 09:03:40 PM
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quote: Originally posted by DragonBlaze
And it probably woudln't be good for him to "destory" the world, have it more like he wants to rule it.
Rule the world? Isn't that like... what most bad guys want to do in most shows... I mean, think of the show dragon ball Z. First, Freiza (I dunno if that's how you spell it, I don't care) wanted to rule the world, then after him, cell wanted to rule the world, then after that, Buu wanted to rule the world (I think) and then it goes on and on with the never ending chain of bad guys wanting to rule the world.
I'm not saying that it's a "bad" reason, just that... well... I dunno. I dunno why I posted this. All well.[/B]
Freiza(Don't know how to spell it ether :p .) Wanted to rule every wrold.
Cell:Forget..
Boo:Eat ice cream and have fun.
Post by: Muraiko on March 28, 2006, 09:36:08 PM
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*ahem* I do believe I ment that the wizard was once with the Hero's mom, but she left him for the Hero's dad, and now he wants to kill everyone because he's heart broken. Jesus Christ DB, learn to think will ya?
Silly Meiscool