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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: smokey_locs2002 on April 02, 2006, 07:15:34 PM
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I'm buying a new comp, nothing too fancy I don't play any games on my pc besides Gunz Online and Phantasy Star.
So anyways. I was looking on ebay and I found these comps.
They're kinda cheap my Gateways comp( which I hate) cost almost twice as much and it sucks.
So anyways I need a second opinion. I was thinking of getting the one that coast 345$
http://stores.ebay.com/Starburst-Tech
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NO- it has a horrible processor- you are going to have to pay a little more to get a decent pc
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A 3.2 Gh Celeron D? Thats not too shabby. For what you play, its perfectly fine.
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Yea, but a celeron leaves no room for better games, if you ever wanted to play them
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Well the guy/s make comps with Intel Pentium 4 I rememeber why I hate my gateway comp and it is because of Celeron D. I know very little of hardware but I know that Celeron D sucks.
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I wouldn't get it, Celeron processers suck, plus it doesn't come with an operating system. You can get a much nicer computer for the same price. Last year, I got an AMD Atholon 64 3000+, 1 GB RAM, 80 gig HD, DVD burner, for a little under $450. I could easily get that same thing for $350 now.
Anyway, if I were you, I'd either get an AMD Atholon or a Intel Pentium 4 procesor. If you get a bad processor, it'll make you're whole computer run bad. 512 RAM is decent, I wouldn't get anything lower than that. You would also probably want an operating system for your computer unless you have a spare windows XP sitting around somewhere, otherwise if you wait a little, you could get a windows vista operating system. I'd wait a little to get that though because it'll probably have a lot of bugs and stuff right away. You probably won't need a graghics card, so you could use integrated for a while. If you need to, you could always buy a cheaper gfx card, I bought a Radeon 9550 for $75 ($5 after gift certificates) and its worked great for all the games I play.
Just remember, you could buy the cheapest piece of crap out there and suffer the concequences for the next two years until you have to get a new one, or you can get a nicer one (for a good price) and have it faithful to you for 6-10 years.
And if you're really feeling ambitious, you could always buy computer parts from newegg.com and just build your own computer, you can get a good cheap computer if you do that.
Edit: I should also mention that the computer there does not come with a monitor, speakers, or a key board. I don't know if you knew that or not.
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
I wouldn't get it, Celeron processers suck, plus it doesn't come with an operating system. You can get a much nicer computer for the same price. Last year, I got an AMD Atholon 64 3000+, 1 GB RAM, 80 gig HD, DVD burner, for a little under $450. I could easily get that same thing for $350 now.
Anyway, if I were you, I'd either get an AMD Atholon or a Intel Pentium 4 procesor. If you get a bad processor, it'll make you're whole computer run bad. 512 RAM is decent, I wouldn't get anything lower than that. You would also probably want an operating system for your computer unless you have a spare windows XP sitting around somewhere, otherwise if you wait a little, you could get a windows vista operating system. I'd wait a little to get that though because it'll probably have a lot of bugs and stuff right away. You probably won't need a graghics card, so you could use integrated for a while. If you need to, you could always buy a cheaper gfx card, I bought a Radeon 9550 for $75 ($5 after gift certificates) and its worked great for all the games I play.
Just remember, you could buy the cheapest piece of crap out there and suffer the concequences for the next two years until you have to get a new one, or you can get a nicer one (for a good price) and have it faithful to you for 6-10 years.
And if you're really feeling ambitious, you could always buy computer parts from newegg.com and just build your own computer, you can get a good cheap computer if you do that.
Edit: I should also mention that the computer there does not come with a monitor, speakers, or a key board. I don't know if you knew that or not.
lol I could never build my own comp. I know little to nothing of hardware.
I do have a Xp my bro was going to put it on his comp but the comp already had Xp on it.
So I have a spare and I have nice as hell speakers and all of that junk. My spending limit is 800$ so... Do you know any sites for a good comp? I have printer, scanner, and all that junk.
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I promise you that building your own computer is not only pretty damn easy compared to all the stigma people give it, but well rewarding. I didn't think I knew crap about hardware, but even basic knowledge, like what RAM looks like and being able to tell the difference between a graphics slot and an expansion slot (different colors, usually, not to mention size and shape) were all I had when I built my system.
Best bet? Find a friend who knows a bit more about computers than you and have them help you choose parts that will be compatible together. Once they arrive you'll be able to figure out where everything goes - the motherboard and case should both come with manuals, not to mention anything else you get retail.
And yes, those systems are total crap. A quick google of the motherboard reveals at least 10 different motherboards (meaning you have no idea what you're actually getting), some of them without graphics card ports, meaning you'll be stuck with the crappy built-in one until you either get a new motherboard or buy a new computer.
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Originally posted by Osmose
I promise you that building your own computer is not only pretty damn easy compared to all the stigma people give it, but well rewarding. I didn't think I knew crap about hardware, but even basic knowledge, like what RAM looks like and being able to tell the difference between a graphics slot and an expansion slot (different colors, usually, not to mention size and shape) were all I had when I built my system.
Best bet? Find a friend who knows a bit more about computers than you and have them help you choose parts that will be compatible together. Once they arrive you'll be able to figure out where everything goes - the motherboard and case should both come with manuals, not to mention anything else you get retail.
And yes, those systems are total crap. A quick google of the motherboard reveals at least 10 different motherboards (meaning you have no idea what you're actually getting), some of them without graphics card ports, meaning you'll be stuck with the crappy built-in one until you either get a new motherboard or buy a new computer.
You know for some one who's avater look's like it's about to eat me your pertty smart.
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no... slots? Well that sucks... Now a color coordinated comp I can do, I'll try it out. If I fail I'll just get one of my friends to build it.
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Best bet? Find a friend who knows a bit more about computers than you and have them help you choose parts that will be compatible together. Once they arrive you'll be able to figure out where everything goes - the motherboard and case should both come with manuals, not to mention anything else you get retail.
Lol, just make sure your friend actually knows stuff about computers, I had a friend over to help me build mine, turns out he didn't know what the hell he was doing, so I ended up doing pretty much everything myself.
Anyway, for $800, you can buy a pretty nice computer. I've always liked newegg.com for computer stuff, so you can check there to see if they have any nice computers.
And yeah, building a computer is pretty easy, the manual that comes with the motherboard should tell you everything you need to know. IF you are thinking about building your own computer, let me give you some pointers. You want to find your motherboard and CPU (processor) first, above all, make sure they're compatable with eachother. A CPU has a pecific socket number such as 756 or something like that, you have to make sure the motherboard is a 756 socket. Another thing you have to look out for is that the brands are compatible. Most motherboards are either built for AMD CPUs or Intel CPUs, if you get an Intel CPU, it won't work with a motherboard thats built for an AMD CPU.
After that, you don't need to worry about much. You'll need to buy a case that fits the motherboard. This is pretty easy, a motherboard will either be a standard size or it'll be a micro motherboard, just buy a case that holds the right size motherboard.
Then you need to buy some memory sticks (RAM), and a hard drive. For the hard drive, make sure if its a Serial ATA that the motherboard supports serial ATA stuff. You don't need a graphics card, but one would be nice, if you get a graphics card, make sure its compatible with your motherboard, you just have to worry about the hook up. If its a PCI express graphics card, make sure your motherboard has a PCI express slot, same thing if you get an AGP gfx card.
Whatever you do, do NOT buy an OEM motherboard. OEM stuff means that it doesn't come with an instruction manual, plugs, a case, or anything, just the part. OEM parts are generaly cheaper, and theres nothing wrong with them, but you'll want the motherboard instruction manual and plugs to come with the motherboard.
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New egg kicks ***- if you wanted to build a computer, newegg is the place to buy everything. I am about to buy my vid card- an ati x1600pro for $125-- WOOT WOOT
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Good advice I'll use it well. That New Egg site does own. Stuff is pretty cheap on it. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Newegg's prices are good, but the real beauty is their shipping time. I ordered the parts for my computer on a Monday and it came the Wednesday after, in two days, all the way from California.
And it's specifically BECAUSE my avatar looks awesome that I'm just as awesome as it.
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The Sempron 2600 is very good and can be overclocked (especially with the BIOSTAR motherboard combo deal) to 2ghz which matches the speed of an Athlon64 3200.
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Originally posted by CheapAlert
The Sempron 2600 is very good and can be overclocked (especially with the BIOSTAR motherboard combo deal) to 2ghz which matches the speed of an Athlon64 3200.
Yeah, until you overclock the Athlon64 3200 and kill the Sempron 2600. And actually I think 2 ghz was the speed of the Athlon 64 3000. Anywayz, most new AMD computers come with Athlon 3400 or higher, or something like that, getting a Sempron 2600 wouldn't be a good idea for a new computer right now.
Celeron processors are the cheap version of pentium and only run 1/3 as fast or so even if both processors have the same ghz. I don't think sempron is as bad as a celeron, but I doubt a 2 ghz sempron will run as fast or as well as a 2 ghz athlon 64.
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It does. I've done comparisons with SiSoft Sandra and it's actually slightly faster.
btw, A64 3200 is 2ghz, AXP 3200 is 2.2ghz.
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Speaking of Athlon 64s, I really should get XP 64-bit or something and actually make use of the damn thing.
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Hehe... I'm kinda lost in all this, but it's got me thinkin': why don't I convince my mom to buy a new computer? Or at least parts. It can't be that hard, and I have a few friends why've built their own just in case it is. We could really use a new one, the lappy I' using sucks ***.
EDIT: Could anybody suggest any good parts for a computer? I really have no idea what all I need, nor what the differences are. It would be nice if anyone can list all the parts needed for a compy that can play newer games (Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source, Battlefield 2, The Elder Scrolls IV: Ovlivion, F.E.A.R., etc.) well. Sorry if I'm just wasting your time, I was just curious, and asking here is better than starting a new topic, right? I'm just overwhelmed with it all, and I don't know where to start.
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Well getting parts for laptops suck, because they weren't built to be that upgradable. However, to figure out what you should get if you want to run newer games, you need to know what you have - AGP, PCI, PCIe, what type of cpu socket, etc...
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Upgrading a LapTop.. been there done that... I went from a roller ball mouse to a laser one. lol
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Lol, I had a laptop once, the mobo broke on it and it would cost over $600 to replace it. Thats when I got my new one for $450.
I'm going to make a laptop with interchangable upgradable parts, I'll be the next bill gates!
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If anyone wants to build a pc, get the pc gamer pc building bible (its on magazine racks)
It was sent from god- everything you need to know is in there!
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Well, actually I wasn't planning on upgrading my lappy (it's evil, I swear! I have proof! It's watching me right now!), I was kinda hoping someone could list the parts needed to build one from scratch with some recommended pieces. If anything, it'll give me something to do. Once again, sorry if it's too much trouble.
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I hate lap tops. I have a really really nice one that will not Run EQ and my friend wanted me play so she could give me all her stuff. She's the richest person on this one server and the most hated person.
A petition went around on the server to ban her and it passed.. soo I tired to play EQ on my nice evil dell and it gave me some error.
I googled it and come to find out most lab tops have this problem and the only way to fix it is to change the card..Come to find out I can change the graphics card but it's risky.
So I gave up... I've seen only one custom laptop and my friend made it.. The keyboard detaches from the monitor and the screen had a stand on the back that folded out. The thing was ugly and not wireless.
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But was it "Truly Evil"? Mine is.
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Originally posted by Archem2
Well, actually I wasn't planning on upgrading my lappy (it's evil, I swear! I have proof! It's watching me right now!), I was kinda hoping someone could list the parts needed to build one from scratch with some recommended pieces. If anything, it'll give me something to do. Once again, sorry if it's too much trouble.
- CPU/Processor (I recomend AMD Athlon 64 anything 3000+ or higher)
- Motherboard (needs to be the same socket and compatable with the CPU brand name, i have no real suggestions here).
- RAM/Memory (Brand really doesn't matter, I recomend getting at least 1 GB or RAM (two 512 RAM sticks with DDR 400 (PC 3200))
-Hard Drive (I recommend a serial ATA interface, how big it is is up to how much you plan to put on your computer.
- CD/DVD Drive (I recomend a DVD dual layer burner)
- Case (doesn't really matter, just if you have a micro sized motherboard, get a case that holds it and visa versa. Be sure it comes with a decent power supply and cooling system)
Thats all you NEED to build a computer, but theres other stuff you could get too.
- GFX card (its all your own preferance, if you plan on playing any high end games, I recomend getting one. I prefer the Radeon x800, other people will suggest Nvidia or Gforce gfx cards. Whatever you do, I suggest 256 mbs of memory)
- Sound Card (Don't bother getting one unless you have really good surround sound speakers, integrated sound works good for pretty much everything)
- Modem (if you have dial up you'll need one)
- TV Tuner (I got one of these, its pretty cool if you want to use your computer as a TV)
Accesories
- Keyboard
- Mouse
- Speakers
- Monitor (I got a 19 inch lcd monitor and I LOVE it. Its made by AvidAV and it cost $250, which is pretty good for a 19" lcd monitor. If you plan on getting an lcd monitor, make sure you don't get anything with a high response time such as 24 ms. If the response time is high, you'll be seeing 'shadowing' on your monitor. I recomend getting something with a 12 ms resonse time or less. If you do plan on getting an lcd monitor, look at local stores first, if you buy one off the internet, it'll probably be cheaper, but you run the risk of getting 'dead pixals' which are black dots on the monitor, they don't relaly bother anything, but they sometimes are annoying. And you can't return a monitor for having 8 or less dead pixals.)
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
- Monitor (I got a 19 inch lcd monitor and I LOVE it. Its made by AvidAV and it cost $250, which is pretty good for a 19" lcd monitor.
I got my 19" LCD for $200. :D
But yeah, he's looking into building a laptop, and that's... a bit more complicated, if even possible. It'd require quite a bit of handiwork, at least.
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Lol, I guess I didn't catch that part :p
But yeah, DON'T build a laptop. Buying one will be cheaper. Besides, for a laptop, you need to get a case and a motherboard from a specific company and even then they have to be from the same model type. The hard drive basically has to be the same way, same with the battery, keyboard, and mouse. The ONLY thing you'd really be able to customize is MAYBE the CPU and RAM. So its not worth building your own.
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Sorry, my bad. I guess I could have worded that better... _sweat_ No, it's good what you suggested, I wouldn't bother with building a lappy, they're too unupgradable. I know that much at least. Sorry for causing a momentary miscomprehension. <---- long word :D
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Oh, and also, do NOT get two 512 sticks of RAM if you're going for 1 GB or higher - you can get a single stick of a gig of ram for the same price, and you won't be stuck having to buy more RAM then you need if you want to go above 2 gigs. (Although the only reason I want more is for when I'm editing huge image files, like book covers, and Fireworks won't go as big as I need it to be.)
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Originally posted by Osmose
Oh, and also, do NOT get two 512 sticks of RAM if you're going for 1 GB or higher - you can get a single stick of a gig of ram for the same price, and you won't be stuck having to buy more RAM then you need if you want to go above 2 gigs. (Although the only reason I want more is for when I'm editing huge image files, like book covers, and Fireworks won't go as big as I need it to be.)
Well if you plan to upgrade in the future, just one big stick would probably be best. Otherwise if you don't plan to upgrade, two 512 sticks would be safer. If you have two of them, one can break or something and you could still run the computer on just one of them, and replacing the broken one wouldn't cost that much where as if you had just one big stick, if it breaks, you can't really use your computer until you get a new one, and it'll cost more to replace.
My old laptop had two RAM chips that together had 512 RAM. And one of my chips broke on that, since I had the other one, I was still able to run it. I never bothred to replace the stick though because a bunch of other things were going on my laptop and i figured it wouldn't pay to replace it.