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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Almeidaboo on April 09, 2006, 04:18:19 PM

Title: Sick of MMORPGs...
Post by: Almeidaboo on April 09, 2006, 04:18:19 PM

They have no point! You invest a huge time on it, just to get...nowhere! NOw I´m bored with the internet and Charas is the only reason I even go online...

Anyone can suggest me something to do on the net?

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Post by: drenrin2120 on April 09, 2006, 04:21:30 PM

Make an MMORPG with a point to it. :-P

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Post by: Spike21 on April 09, 2006, 05:07:06 PM

i have the exact same problem exept i stoped playing mmorpg months ago.... make a web site

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Post by: Grandy on April 09, 2006, 05:15:32 PM

The point of most MMORPGs are to beat that one mission that is 300000000 times more dificult than evey other. Consider it as a ... last boss.

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Post by: shadus on April 09, 2006, 05:37:14 PM

Give up.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on April 09, 2006, 06:27:30 PM

build accounts a lot of places o.O i have, i mean google my name XD

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 09, 2006, 07:26:33 PM

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Originally posted by shadus
Give up.

Like, kill myself?

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build accounts a lot of places o.O i have, i mean google my name XD

What?

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The point of most MMORPGs are to beat that one mission that is 300000000 times more dificult than evey other. Consider it as a ... last boss.

What?

 

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i have the exact same problem exept i stoped playing mmorpg months ago.... make a web site

I lack the skills...

 

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Make an MMORPG with a point to it. :-P

I´d do it, if I has the resources...and the skills...

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Dude, I'm no good.

Keep the suggestions rolling...

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on April 09, 2006, 07:33:01 PM

Google my name:
http://www.google.com/search?q=kijuki_magazaki  
http://www.google.com/search?q=kijuki  

My goal is to have a total of 1k sites related to my nick.

Its something fun to do... well not really but cures boredom.

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Post by: MrMister on April 09, 2006, 07:39:35 PM

Google MrMister : Winner! (http://www.google.ca/search?q=MrMister)

Look at the first one XD

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Post by: Prpl_Mage on April 09, 2006, 07:46:50 PM

Start creating a new kind of sprites that everyone will use in their Rpgm games, like the charset sizes b-chars that was the rage a while ago.

Do some ripping from games, to help other people.

Make a webcomic where you make fun of MMORPG's.

Um, make a game with the Rpgmaker?

Darn, I forgot my last idea...

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on April 09, 2006, 07:50:47 PM

YAY for webcomics!

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Post by: Shadowless1 on April 09, 2006, 08:31:43 PM

i agree, example when you start playing runescape for the first time its ok, but then it gets boring

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Post by: Osmose on April 09, 2006, 08:53:58 PM

BYOND (http://www.byond.com)

ORPGs. Not massive. And there's enough to entertain you. :P

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 09, 2006, 09:22:40 PM

Theres loadsa free MMORPGs out there... Roseonline, Knight online, Silkroad, Raikon, (im not saying runescape), Conquer, Maple story, Kal online, Gate to heaven, Gunz...blah blah blah XD more than enough to keep me occupied over easter...

Off Topic: Woo! Just completed Shadow of the Colossus XD

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Post by: Razor on April 09, 2006, 09:43:31 PM

Do something Charasey with lots of your favourite friends from Charas!

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Post by: MrMister on April 09, 2006, 09:59:09 PM

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Originally posted by Leon_1990
Off Topic: Woo! Just completed Shadow of the Colossus XD

ROCK AND ROOOLLLLL
Yeah, so time attack mode is pretty hard, I haven't beaten hard mode yet either.

Uhm, an MMO that you won't get bored of: WoW. I'm sure the board is full of Guild Wars bitches who hate WoW for no good reason, so.. other things to do.. play with a dog!

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Post by: Razor on April 09, 2006, 10:03:42 PM

Ooh I know. Value your time with us. Once we all get Spore, we'll never see each other again.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 09, 2006, 10:16:49 PM

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Originally posted by MrMister

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Originally posted by Leon_1990 Off Topic: Woo! Just completed Shadow of the Colossus XD

ROCK AND ROOOLLLLL
Yeah, so time attack mode is pretty hard, I haven't beaten hard mode yet either.

Yeah, I'm currently Attempting to fight the third Colossi atm. They aren't kidding when they say Hard mode...

Btw Razor, when does spore come out?

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Post by: MrMister on April 09, 2006, 10:39:41 PM

Yes, and how many terras does it take.

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Post by: Spike21 on April 09, 2006, 11:24:57 PM

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Ooh I know. Value your time with us. Once we all get Spore, we'll never see each other again.

i second that

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Post by: blaze_shinigami on April 10, 2006, 01:47:51 AM

Blaze_Shinigami shrine! We've all wanted one of those! Come on!

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Post by: shadus on April 10, 2006, 04:29:04 AM

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Originally posted by Almeidaboo

Like, kill myself?

No..Like give up on the net.

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Post by: Poncho on April 10, 2006, 04:33:31 AM

Hehe, I'm a heavy mmo'er. Started out with UO, and moved on. Recently played WoW, and DDO, but none of them were for me, so now I got nothing to do :(

That's why I'm trying to finally make a rpg on RPGM I guess.

Anyway this is the MMO I'm currently awaiting, and it looks great :)

http://tcos.com/  

Sign up for beta ya'll. It'll be a blast.

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Post by: Drace on April 10, 2006, 05:39:38 AM

Same prob Almie. Just can't seem to get into WoW anymore after 3 months, so I stopped paying.

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Post by: Razor on April 10, 2006, 08:30:54 AM

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Btw Razor, when does spore come out?

When DOES Spore come out... yes, yes.
Ahem.
Gamespy: Release Date:  Q4 2006
1UP.com: Release Date: 11/15/2006
Gamespot: Release Date:  Q3 2006
Jay is games: "I'm really looking forward to the release of Spore in the Autumn of 2006!" - Tom (some random commentor)
IGN: Release Date: Late 2006
GamePower: Release Date: ??-??-2006

The Official Spore Website: Doesn't have one, lol.

In conclusion, i dunno ¯\‭‭(°_o)/¯

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Post by: Venator on April 10, 2006, 09:08:20 AM

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Originally posted by drenrin2120
Make an MMORPG with a point to it. :-P

Impossible; it is inconceivable to make a MMORPG, because the majority of people who buy it wouldn't be interested in role playing in the slightest.

I believe whole heartedly that MMORPGs don't exist; the only things that exist are action games. Have you ever seen a MMORPG that actually works? In every MMORPG the economy is always fucked; the role players get ganked by the non-RP Pkers and Power gamers. Normally there is a huge division between rich & poor in MMORPGs, and people love to lord things over other people.

In short, MMORPGs are anti-social on many levels, and not just with the real world; the people who inhabit these games display an anti-social attitude to the other players, and co-operation is often rare and hard to find in places with well established vets that aren't interested in anything but to lord 'power' over other people.

Perhaps that's how the world works; the stronger asserts his or her will over the weaker and unworthy.

I just don't know :(

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Post by: Osmose on April 10, 2006, 09:32:13 AM

Venator: Not true. World of Warcraft(which I don't play but know far too many people who do), for example, is focused on clan actions, raids, interacting with others, etc. Each person in a guild has a purpose, be they a tank, attacker, or healer.

Now yes, the RP aspect may be a bit weak, but at least it's not as unbalanced as you say.

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Post by: Drace on April 10, 2006, 04:10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Osmose
Venator: Not true. World of Warcraft(which I don't play but know far too many people who do), for example, is focused on clan actions, raids, interacting with others, etc. Each person in a guild has a purpose, be they a tank, attacker, or healer.

Now yes, the RP aspect may be a bit weak, but at least it's not as unbalanced as you say.

In WoW, I found it easy to find at least a small group for PvP, Questing, Dungeons etc.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 10, 2006, 04:40:03 PM

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Originally posted by drenrin2120 Make an MMORPG with a point to it. :-P

Impossible; it is inconceivable to make a MMORPG, because the majority of people who buy it wouldn't be interested in role playing in the slightest.

I believe whole heartedly that MMORPGs don't exist; the only things that exist are action games. Have you ever seen a MMORPG that actually works? In every MMORPG the economy is always ******; the role players get ganked by the non-RP Pkers and Power gamers. Normally there is a huge division between rich & poor in MMORPGs, and people love to lord things over other people.

In short, MMORPGs are anti-social on many levels, and not just with the real world; the people who inhabit these games display an anti-social attitude to the other players, and co-operation is often rare and hard to find in places with well established vets that aren't interested in anything but to lord 'power' over other people.

Perhaps that's how the world works; the stronger asserts his or her will over the weaker and unworthy.

I just don't know :(

Raffles?

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Post by: Drighton on April 10, 2006, 06:47:51 PM

IGN.com had an interesting article about the Past Present and Future of RTS games.

An MMORTS game was mentioned as a possibility, that is, IF certain obstacles can be overcome. I think this could be a refreshing breath of air in the MMO genre if it can be done.

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Post by: Venator on April 10, 2006, 06:48:00 PM

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Venator: Not true. World of Warcraft(which I don't play but know far too many people who do), for example, is focused on clan actions, raids, interacting with others, etc. Each person in a guild has a purpose, be they a tank, attacker, or healer.

Now yes, the RP aspect may be a bit weak, but at least it's not as unbalanced as you say.

It's still not role playing though, but a mere action game.

I like role playing games that actually involve some form of acting, as well as an additional rule set to unite the shared continuity of the role players.

I think role playing can only truly be done with paper, pen and a Dungeon Master.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 10, 2006, 07:10:00 PM

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I think role playing can only truly be done with paper, pen and a Dungeon Master.

Not 100% true...Well, the books say you must demand that your players follow the exact personality they chose for their characters...but that´s not something really easy to do. My players, at least, have the word "kill" on the tip of their tongs, ready to say it whenever something moves, even though some are not agressive.

There´s no real roleplaying if you think that way. But I agree that MMORPG have NO role playing...I mean, except for WoW (that everyone knows the story), how many times did you even bother knowing the story of a MMORPG? I played Flyff for 5 months and have no clue what´s it about!

MMORPG's are about gameplay and features. And "free".

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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 07:28:39 PM

It is in Omega Weapon's opinion that MMORGS are a total waste of time. Nearly all require a great deal of commitment in order to proceed further in the game and unlike single-player RPGs do not have an 'even flow' and combination of story line with building up your characters.

MMORGS are designed to waste one's time. Why do you think the companies collect monthly payments?

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 10, 2006, 07:43:37 PM

Now, we're all saying that MMORPG's are a waste of time here... but they aren't any diffrent from regular games if you think about it =/
We all seemingly "waste time" on some sort of game during the week... I just don't see the difference with MMORPGs. Yes, some you need to pay to play, but thats your choice to play them or not, other ones (free ones) can often be very enjoyable...heck, even better when one of your friends, or someone else from charas past or present plays too.

And btw, Almeidaboo, FFXI has a storyline aswell ^^;

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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 07:54:15 PM

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We all seemingly "waste time" on some sort of game during the week... I just don't see the difference with MMORPGs.

If this is true good sir, then we have a serious differentiation of opinion.

MMORGS use the most colorful screenshots to lure one into a commitment which one will feel necessary to see through for at least a month's time. It is very deceptive and makes Omega Weapon perturbed that much gameplay consists of walking to and fro whereas single-player games offer more stimulation, be it in the form of majestic landscapes coupled with wonderous music which could never be used in an MMORG: It would get boring too quickly, which is why MMORGs with music must have lukewarm expressions of said art.

It is in Omega Weapons' opinion that serious MMORG players wish to socialise through something they may be proficient in: Dragonslaying or the like. This conclusion is not as large a logical jump as it seems to present itself as.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 10, 2006, 07:58:43 PM

OK, as I said, I don't see the difference.

what you spoke of is a human flaw, being dragged into things, its not an MMORPG's fault if a human wishes to aspire in it. And yes, I do agree that it can get very boring, but alas, the same can be said on offline games, people usually try to get everything in thier favourite game, and yes, it will eventually get boring as an MMORPG does.

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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 08:13:45 PM

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OK, as I said, I don't see the difference.

what you spoke of is a human flaw, being dragged into things, its not an MMORPG's fault if a human wishes to aspire in it.


And yes, I do agree that it can get very boring, but alas, the same can be said on offline games, people usually try to get everything in thier favourite game, and yes, it will eventually get boring as an MMORPG does.

I am in understanding and in agreement with you, good sir, about most of your points and would like to bring my own up.

Single-player RPGs are not meant to become boring. They should be played once and at the discretion of the player of course. MMORGs fail because they did not anticipate the problem of combining socialising with gameplaying.

Imagine playing a single-player game, over and over, at a very slow pace and the only thing different is the people you encounter in the game.

MMORGs are unfair because only the most tenacious of players, those with no lives or jobs who can spend 16 hours a day building their characters, get to see so much more of the game and they should be restructed.

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Post by: Samus spamus on April 10, 2006, 08:14:39 PM

MMORGS arent a waste of time....... O____O

depends what you do on it. If you just sit there like a Jackie!
well...do i need to say more?

Btw if you feel this way about it mite aswell just quit the net..

 Unless you got any other hobbies? on the pc ..

Until then ta ta ;)

 btw SAMUS HAS RETURNED!!! ^_^


 Hi leon!!

    XD             .... Final fantasy 11 PWNAGE!

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 10, 2006, 11:27:01 PM

I swear...I don't know that guy... =_=;

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 10, 2006, 11:30:41 PM

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I swear...I don't know that guy... =_=;

Thank God.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 11, 2006, 01:15:54 AM

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Originally posted by Leon_1990
Now, we're all saying that MMORPG's are a waste of time here... but they aren't any diffrent from regular games if you think about it =/
We all seemingly "waste time" on some sort of game during the week... I just don't see the difference with MMORPGs. Yes, some you need to pay to play, but thats your choice to play them or not, other ones (free ones) can often be very enjoyable...heck, even better when one of your friends, or someone else from charas past or present plays too.

And btw, Almeidaboo, FFXI has a storyline aswell ^^;

Not true. I play a copnsole RPG to see the boy kiss the girl in the end. MMO's do not have that.

That´s a metaphore for "ending", "point", "objective", "storyline".

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Post by: Stave on April 11, 2006, 02:48:02 AM

Well, that's true.
The MMORPGs are all the same (most part of it). Always boring after a time.
But the best game I ever played was Neverwinter Nights, on a roleplaying server. Not for the graphics or anything, just 'cause of the roleplaying stuff. Was great.

What a shame, I lost my CDKeys, need to buy again. I really miss the roleplaying on NWN.

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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 11, 2006, 10:59:57 AM

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Originally posted by Leon_1990 Now, we're all saying that MMORPG's are a waste of time here... but they aren't any diffrent from regular games if you think about it =/ We all seemingly "waste time" on some sort of game during the week... I just don't see the difference with MMORPGs. Yes, some you need to pay to play, but thats your choice to play them or not, other ones (free ones) can often be very enjoyable...heck, even better when one of your friends, or someone else from charas past or present plays too. And btw, Almeidaboo, FFXI has a storyline aswell ^^;

Not true. I play a copnsole RPG to see the boy kiss the girl in the end. MMO's do not have that.

That´s a metaphore for "ending", "point", "objective", "storyline".

Hmmm, in a way I AM right there almeidaboo ^^;
Sure, the enmding will barely involve the mian character (you) but wil involve the people you've met, just like any other game.
Buuut, I see your point

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 13, 2006, 06:22:27 PM

Now there´s all these MMORPG exclusive sites that list a LOT of MMORPGs...but I played nearly all of them!

Thank God I got Suikoden V...