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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 09:23:15 PM

Title: OIL PCs
Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 09:23:15 PM
Has anyone ever created one? Omega Weapon is looking to convert this PC into an Oil PC.

By submerging all components except the harddrive and power supply in a leak-proof container with insulative cooking oil one can achieve excellent temperatures without the noisy fans.

Perhaps one good sir here has created such a computer?
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Post by: DragonBlaze on April 10, 2006, 09:29:06 PM
0.o, I never heard of that. I suggest just buying quite fans and a silent Hard Drive.
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 09:34:52 PM
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0.o, I never heard of that. I suggest just buying quite fans and a silent Hard Drive.

Ah that is an excellent suggestion, but with an oil PC one does not have to dust the innards of the casings. Your personal Computer remains in a static state of cleanliness with only the occasional replacing of the cooling fluid. It is an excellent alternative to a possibly dangerous water-based cooling system as well as inexpensive.

Have you ever watched 'The Abyss' ? It is similar to the oxygen-rich fluid they had submerged the mouse in. This reminds me of that.
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Post by: Archem on April 10, 2006, 09:47:06 PM
I'm a bit cautious about that idea... I'm almost positive that oil on most any form is flammable, and heat generally mixes with flammables in a most volatile way... How 'bout you test it out, visit a hospital for abominable grease fire related injuries, and report back to me when it sounds any safer.
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Post by: Riff Raff on April 10, 2006, 09:50:08 PM
I've done the OIL PC thing, and I must agree with Omega Weapon, it's the only way to go.

Hey what's up with my avatar?
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 09:50:33 PM
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I'm a bit cautious about that idea... I'm almost positive that oil on most any form is flammable, and heat generally mixes with flammables in a most volatile way... How 'bout you test it out, visit a hospital for abominable grease fire related injuries, and report back to me when it sounds any safer.

Omega Weapon was quite clear on the oil being insulative cooking oil.
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Post by: Archem on April 10, 2006, 10:03:58 PM
Hey, I'm sure it's 80-95% safe, but I guess I just wanted to say something, but nothing important came to mind. No, it sounds like a good idea, I just wouldn't want to put the responsibility of not screwing something up in my hands. I'd make it catch fire. On purpose. Even if it's by accident. Yeah, I'm the anti-child/adult-proof. :D
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Post by: headspace on April 10, 2006, 10:05:17 PM
is this a version of thermal paste?
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 10:11:13 PM
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is this a version of thermal paste?

No, it is actually household cooking oil.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=oil+pc
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Post by: DragonBlaze on April 10, 2006, 10:25:13 PM
I can't imagine how submerging cuircut boards and parts in any type of liqued would be good for the computer.

I still stick with my previous suggestion with just sticking with the quite fans. Its safer, you don't have to worry about installing it wrong or having it leak, and you don't have to clean the dust out more than you would have to replace the oil.

Besides, most power supplies need a fan, and if you don't submerge the power supply in the oil, you'll probably need that fan anyway.
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 10:31:13 PM
"By submerging all components except the harddrive and power supply in a leak-proof container with insulative cooking oil one can achieve excellent temperatures without the noisy fans."

Everything is addressed in this part of the first post. Some suggestions we have discovered on Google is to use a fish tank to prevent leakage. Oil is chosen only because it is an insulator.
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Post by: headspace on April 10, 2006, 10:37:49 PM
Can you use Sunflower Oil? I have some of that.
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 10:42:41 PM
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Can you use Sunflower Oil? I have some of that.

While Omega Weapon is not proficient in chemistry, it would be wise to check if it is an electric conductor. If so then you can proceed.
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Post by: headspace on April 10, 2006, 10:53:09 PM
How do i check if my Oil is non conductive?

Should i try and pass a small electric current through it?
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 10:54:42 PM
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How do i check if my Oil is non conductive?

Should i try and pass a small electric current through it?

NO! Google first.
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Post by: Osmose on April 10, 2006, 11:04:39 PM
It's true. The oil PC idea has been done, although it's not for your average bear.
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on April 10, 2006, 11:37:22 PM
Fans aren't that noisy, get over it.
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 10, 2006, 11:50:46 PM
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Fans aren't that noisy, get over it.

No, Omega Weapon will not "get over it." If you were sitting on a tack, no one would tell you to keep sitting and "get over it." Omega Weapon has things at his disposal which can add a great amount of convenience to his personal computing.
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Post by: Riff Raff on April 10, 2006, 11:51:23 PM
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Fans aren't that noisy, get over it.


You are am have a ****** attitude.
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Post by: Archem on April 10, 2006, 11:56:49 PM
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Fans aren't that noisy, get over it.

Totally agree. I mean, listen to a CD for God's sake. It's, what, four decibles? At the most? All the extra effort for  what? A somewhat silenter computer? I feel it's not worth it.
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Post by: headspace on April 10, 2006, 11:58:17 PM
Can people calm down please?

I'm interested in this.

I have managed to replace a lot of my USB ports with gold plated pins. I'm convinced that this has improved performance and drop outs.

I'm concerned that my PC will be unable to work within a dual atmosphere - as in oil and air. How will the two still be connected?
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 11, 2006, 12:01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Ruler of the Dark
Fans aren't that noisy, get over it.

Totally agree. I mean, listen to a CD for God's sake. It's, what, four decibles? At the most? All the extra effort for  what? A somewhat silenter computer? I feel it's not worth it.

When one uses strawmen such as that, yes, it does not seem worth it. But genteman ah ha! we have the added benefit of not having to clean the case!   :smoke:
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 11, 2006, 12:04:46 AM
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Can people calm down please?

Yes apologies if tempers flared.



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I'm interested in this.

I have managed to replace a lot of my USB ports with gold plated pins. I'm convinced that this has improved performance and drop outs.

I'm concerned that my PC will be unable to work within a dual atmosphere - as in oil and air. How will the two still be connected?[/B]

The motherboard is submerged along with all peripherals. Components such as the HDD, CDROM and power supply are not submerged. The normal cabling connects them.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on April 11, 2006, 12:09:37 AM
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Fans aren't that noisy, get over it.


Agreed. If it bothers you as much as sitting on a tack, get quit fans. Unless you know exactly what you're doing, you're just going to mess up your computer. You'll need to buy parts anyway, you'll need something to move the oil around, if the oil just sits there, the cpu will get so hot it'll fry itself. If oil is an insulator, it'll trap heat, and if you're trapping heat around a part, its not good. So yeah, you'll need to buy parts anyway, if you're just looking for a cheap way out, dumping your computer in oil isn't a good way to go.

 If you really don't want fans, look around on newegg.com to see if they have any alternitive cooling systems besides fans. But don't try to make something on your own.  

But you know, if you had a back up crappy computer, you could test it out on that. If anything goes wrong or if it doesn't work, it won't be that big of a deal that the computer died.
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Post by: Mandingo on April 11, 2006, 11:18:49 AM
what about lard?
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Post by: Razor on April 11, 2006, 11:56:45 AM
I'd rather my near silent fan computer than a smelly greasy lard computer.
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Post by: headspace on April 11, 2006, 05:49:30 PM


Unbelieveable!

I've got a Dell 5100, I'm going to try this over the Easter Weekend.

What an excellent idea. The fan annoys me late at night.
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Post by: Razor on April 11, 2006, 08:00:54 PM
Not to sound offensive at all, but you don't happen to have one of those weird diseases where the slightest things bother you, or like hearing like a dog, do you?
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Post by: headspace on April 11, 2006, 08:06:15 PM
No i don't, at least I don't think so.

I do have certain routines during my day, but we all have those.
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Post by: Archem on April 11, 2006, 08:19:29 PM
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Hmm. A visually distracting computer that I can fry chicken in. Brilliant! And the aroma of soggy, greasy, stale oil will keep me from remaining unnauseated during a round of Counter-Strike! It's a complete package, alright!

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When one uses strawmen such as that, yes, it does not seem worth it. But genteman ah ha! we have the added benefit of not having to clean the case! :smoke:

0.o I don't think I've ever done that! In literally years! More proof that it's too much work for not enough reward.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 13, 2006, 06:14:59 PM
Let the guy be, if he wants to put his PC in the oil let him be! I hate the fan too, but not THAT much...

Actually I just posted cause I find this idea so damn funny...Fry chicken on the computer, that's a laugh!
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Post by: Osmose on April 13, 2006, 06:53:12 PM
My motivation for trying out an oil PC would be for the cooling effects - If I'm at the point where I'm making an oil PC, I've probably already overclocked my cpu and now heat is a major factor.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on April 13, 2006, 06:56:14 PM
lol, wow.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 13, 2006, 07:21:27 PM
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lol, wow.


I just had the very same reaction when I first read the thread hahaha...
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Post by: headspace on April 13, 2006, 10:45:52 PM
I have fucked my computer.

It's fucked, completely fucked.

I'll upload the pictures soon.
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Post by: Razor on April 13, 2006, 10:50:34 PM
Told ya.
Also, what computer are you using then.
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Post by: headspace on April 13, 2006, 10:53:39 PM
The same internet connection but I'm using my dads computer.

he thinks I'm fuck1n crazy.