Charas-Project
Off-Topic => Creative arts => Topic started by: Noobpwner on April 11, 2006, 09:20:38 PM
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Hi everyone, Well Im just thinkin of making a anime, But I need help with some things... I have the beggining down:
main theme song: need help making hopefully someone who is good at that stuff will voluntere for music..
story intro: (just some drawings or sketches moving across and off the screen) (mistirios voice): LOng ago there was a great shogun who ruled the land in prosperity, little did anyone know he was hiding a painful and threatning secret from everyone about the sea around them....a Great beast lived in this sea and soon became restless. The Shogun knew what was happening so he took 5 sacred items to the side of the sea and jumped into it holding the items, It is said that he saved the world like that...
(misterioyus voice 2): CUT THE CRAP!!! We know the truth!! The man was the dragon!!
(Narrarator): I belive this is my job...
Now in the.........
Well you get the point thats how the first episode begins... Well now I need pple too help witjh the following to apply for a job you need to atach a preview of something youve done like this in the past. ex. animation, drawing, music etc..
Director: (Noobpwner)
assistant director: (apliable)
Animator: (appliable)
Music: (apliable)
Artistic director: (apliable)
artist1: (appliable)
artist2: (appliable)
script: (Noobpwner)
Ill pm you if you get a job k.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You're kidding right? Do you not understand anything pertaining to animation? You cant just say "I wanna make an anime!". There are pages of scripts, countless hours of work done by animating teams. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I think I've heard in a while.
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so its so dumb it might just work...[STRIKE]like flying birds god made that work[/STRIKE] uhh no like [STRIKE]gravity[/STRIKE] Ok well still I want ta try because Ive failed all my life and I could put i countless hours to make something that other pple have never tried and never will ya see nothings imposible if you put your mind too it.. the only reason your saying that is because im a noob if I was Archem or Miescool it would be diffrent like look at all the gifs and stuff pple at charas made for the avatar wars and stuff.. Som like I said anything can be done if you put youre mind to it!!
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Originally posted by Noobpwner
the only reason your saying that is because im a noob if I was Archem or Miescool it would be diffrent
No, I said it because I am persuing a career in traditional animation and you have no f***ing clue what you're talking about and it bugged me. Meis wouldn't bother and Archem at least is able to use flash. Do you even know how they make a real animation? The draw the scenes frame by frame, using as many as 24 frames A SECOND! Now, multiply 24 by 60. That equals 1440 frames for one minute of animation. Granted many times they use less frames than that, but still, thats alot of work. Especially when all you've done is write a little paragraph. At least write the full script.
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I do know what it takes and I think that with everyones help we could pull off A decent anime ya see I think you should stop your bitchin and if your so good help!!
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Hhhhmmmmmm...well I don't really know what to say except get flash. And do an FBF movie(Frame by Frame) You can set it to how many you want persecond as well as there is an onion skin feature. But to think about it I laughlike this...HaHaHaHaHaHaHa......anyway you should probobly just do it in flash.
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When doing an anime, all the many different artist' style must be the same (not meaning your unique style, everyone has a unique style, but sacrificing your unique style and use someone's style so it looks smooth) will be hard.
I reviewed everyone's artwork here and we are all on the same level, so it would be even more difficult to harmonize our images into a single style without harming the quality.
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A animation team usually consists of about 20 pencil artists that have been practicing for their whole 25 years of life, a team of 10-20 colorers, background artists, composers, scipters, pencil testers and a lot more positions you are required to fill. And heads up, the entire script for like the first 25-20 episodes are completed before they even start pre-production. You don't even have episode one scripted yet.
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http://images.google.co.uk/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=shogun++anime+&btnG=Search
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the show has a shogun in it but I dont think you know what I meant by shogun I meant a lord in japan a shogun is like the king uintil samuris were killed and banned.
Well actualy im lookin for artists who could draw equaly as well as eachother and I think that probably the style that im looking for is simple like with not too many details... I also thought of a new job because it makes all jobs easier.
background creator:(apliable)
I thought of this because all I need is people to make all this stuff then I can put it together.
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Originally posted by Noobpwner
I thought of this because all I need is people to make all this stuff then I can put it together.
So you want people to do just about all the work for you?
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nope I need people to do the drwing and I got the rest covered voice overs and everything. Any one who decides too help I bow to you..
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Then allow me to rephrase. You want other people to do the hard work while you talk into a microphone?
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lol nope i am goin to write scripts im going to put the pictures together and then im going to edit in windows movie maker... All I need ism for a few people to each draw a character for diffrent movements and stuff and then someone to draw a background and I can put it together after that!
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Oh yes. Of course. I understand now. Because as everyone knows, drawing and animating countless frames is SOOOOOOO much easier than going *click**click**click* in Movie Maker.
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ok srry but ya know what I would just draw it all my self If I had a scanner the only thing is I dont and I draw crappy and another thing is I think you guys are all realy good at drawing and your nice If I thought you couldnt draw or do anything I wouldnt have came here to post this I couls have gone to another site but you guys are realy good at drawing and stuff. Or else Ide be off somewhere getting burnt and flamed majorly but nobodys done that yet.
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You're only getting bugged by me and no one else because, in all, this is a nice forum. I dare you to go to an actual art/animation forum and pull this crap. They'll eat you alive. DO you know how long it took me to animate 130 frames of a f***ing bouncing ball? 2 weeks. And I filmed then 3 times a piece. Do you know how long it took me to draw a simple guy walking? 2 weeks. 3 times a piece. For you to sit there and ask someone else to do this much work while you sit back and do relatively nothing is total crap.
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I think I'd like to create some cell-shaded movies in animé style...That way I could even make a cell-shaded show! I wish I could do that kind of stuff though..
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srry double post...
Im not gunna quit ya know what all I need is a team of pple and If it takes findin a new forum then I guess Ill have to... Oh yeah and writing a script is harder then you think im on the like 5th ep and details!!!(Ide post but its hand writin and I dont have a scanner!!!)
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Dude, If I wanted to make anime I would make a flip book. Leave me outta this.
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i agree with zkx , you got to contribute equaly to other people to make them acualy do stuff for you. you can not just go and say "i am making an anime i need people to animate ect" you need to show them some of your writing material and so on and so one. but writing is hard but not as time consuming as animating. you need a team acualy physicaly working with each other its hard to just ask people over the internet
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ZeroKirbyX, it seems all you're trying to do is dicourage him.
Why is it you must try to stop him?
If he succeeds, cool.
If not, he'll learn.
Let him live. Heis not asking for your approval, just for some help. And writing is harder than drawing. Trust me, I am a writer and an artist. You can draw just anything, but when you write, it ahs to have purpose to it.
Noobpwner, you have my support, and I guess if you want I could help with some writing. Other than that, I can do no more.
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ZKX is stating that he doesn't want people to help a person that won't help himself. He's not saying anything about that he shouldn't do it because it can't be done.
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Originally posted by Dragoon de Sol
ZeroKirbyX, it seems all you're trying to do is dicourage him.
Why is it you must try to stop him?
If he succeeds, cool.
If not, he'll learn.
Let him live. Heis not asking for your approval, just for some help. And writing is harder than drawing. Trust me, I am a writer and an artist. You can draw just anything, but when you write, it ahs to have purpose to it.
Noobpwner, you have my support, and I guess if you want I could help with some writing. Other than that, I can do no more.
To address each individually:
-No I'm not. He doesn't know what hes doing and he needs to before he tries this
-Because he doesn't know what he's doing. He thinks he can do the minimal and recieve the extra amount but you cant
-He won't
-What would he learn? Trial and error maybe, but when you're not trying what do you have to learn from?
- B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T! Writing may be harder to some, but to make the assanine comment that drawing doesn't have to have a purpose just shows how truly stupid you are. They are both arts, understand this. Michelangelo didn't pick a brush and randomly psint the Sistine Chapel. He had to discover that its purpose was to emphasize the creation of man. Do not claim yourself to be an artist in either words or lines. A true artist never compares the two because they understand they are different.
Now shut up and go away.
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Make the anime if you want. I won't stop you. Maybe you'll be proven right and end up creating something vibrant and full of life.
If you just want some character concepts, I would be glad to attempt it.
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Hmm, it's a bit like rwriting a book, only you have to write the book out five thousand times changing one word each time. Good luck with that ;)
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It would be viable if you wanted to do a MANGA, but I higly doubt you could animate one epidose in less than 4 years, with the tools, if the Charas memebers wanted to help, it would be worse, everytime we try to do something togheter, it just doesn't works, we can't do a game togueter(I just completaly forgot how to type that), leave alone something as complicated as an Anime.
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It takes very long to draw even one good picture. Anime uses MANY good pictures. You're asking us to spend just as much time as a multi-million company's employees do. With absolutely nothing offered in exhange, this thing is just so laughable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not being greedy. But looking at the nature of this forum, you must have realised that most people are working on games. Games take extremely long times to work on and you're pretty much saying "Can some people give up whatever they do in life to help me make an anime that I have an idea for (But can't show you because for some reason I didn't use a word processor)? It would be nice, even though you get nothing out of it."
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A manga he may do. But if you're asking us for help, we can only give tips. We don't know each other irl so our internet time will be unreliable.
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I wont go away.
You have made it abundantly clear multiple times that you disapprove of what he is doing.
He acknowledges that.
Ok, you've done what you want. Leave him be.
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Originally posted by Dragoon de Sol
I wont go away.
You have made it abundantly clear multiple times that you disapprove of what he is doing.
He acknowledges that.
Ok, you've done what you want. Leave him be.
Did I say I disapprove? No. I support making an anime. Just I don't want him delving into this when he has no clue what hes doing.
I have left him be. Now because your buggin me I now can't leave you be.
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If it keeps you from bugging other people, bug me all you want.
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What says I'm not going to bug others? Ask anyone. I bug em all. YOU CAN'T STOP ME!
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Ah, the old Charas drama... I almost missed it...
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Then you don't have a life outside of this place.
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Not many of us do Dragoon de Sol :P
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Probably why we make RPGs.
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I apply for music!
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Uhh... ok, I know Im joining in kind of late here, but to ZKX and everyone else who has been saying it, animation is no longer done cel by cel (as in, frame after frame). Nowadays it's all done with computer imaging.
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Originally posted by Desimodontidae
Uhh... ok, I know Im joining in kind of late here, but to ZKX and everyone else who has been saying it, animation is no longer done cel by cel (as in, frame after frame). Nowadays it's all done with computer imaging.
Actually, a majority of it is still cel by cel. They draw story boards which can takes 1000's of pics. Then they have a rough, which, while scratchy, is still an actual animation. After that they have the clean up, where the lines are redone and clarified. Then they scan it in for coloring. The animation is drawn. The colors are just added in the computer.
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Here's my work,It's a midi,I couldn't get the rhythm precisely but
here's the them from Peter pan with Jason isaacs