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Title: Iran Could Produce Nuclear Bomb in 16 Days!
Post by: Omega Weapon on April 13, 2006, 06:07:02 AM
 News Link (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=awSzbHpjozAo&refer=top_world_news)

This is horrible! The United States has to apply pressure because there is no telling what could happen if a Muslim Fundamentalist government gets its hands on atomic weapons.

We knew that Saddam hussien and his regime was much too poor to be able to get their hands on them so they wanted to make and test biological and chemical weaponry of great lethality on inmates going to be executed. But now Iran is stronger and richer than they are and there are no sanctions to cripple their nuclear ambitions.

What could they need nuclear weapons for hmm? We know Russians and Chinese along with up and coming economic powerhouse India have no problem doing shady business dealings with the Iranians.

It's not enough that Russia has new missiles with counter missile defence evasion capability which has rendered the $10 Billion missile defence program stationed in Alaska and California USELESS, They have to sell night-vision goggles to Iraqis during the invasion to help harm American troops.

China wants Tiawan because right or wrong Communists feel they have a soveriegn right to it, Iran wants to flex its muscle and dominate the middle east, and Russia is so poor it is selling its high-tech weapons to countries who might have bad intentions in the foreseeable future.

What are your thoughts on this?
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Post by: Razor on April 13, 2006, 07:01:02 AM
Don't worry, you'll be fine.
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Post by: Drace on April 13, 2006, 07:07:09 AM
Hopefully our Prime-Minister gets replaced soon cause the one we got is sucking up to Bush. Wouldn't want this country to be a terrorist target.
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Post by: RPG LORD on April 13, 2006, 08:23:55 AM
Iran produce nuclear weapons? Hell, it seems like Bush only said that because he felt like it.
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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 13, 2006, 09:09:38 AM
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Hopefully our Prime-Minister gets replaced soon cause the one we got is sucking up to Bush. Wouldn't want this country to be a terrorist target.


omfg, your's too!?
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Post by: Drace on April 13, 2006, 09:23:26 AM
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Originally posted by Drace
Hopefully our Prime-Minister gets replaced soon cause the one we got is sucking up to Bush. Wouldn't want this country to be a terrorist target.


omfg, your's too!?


Sadly, yes.
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Post by: Leon_1990 on April 13, 2006, 09:27:49 AM
Ach, why is the "most powerful man in the world" such a moron...
from what I've read, it sounds like bush is making up stories because hes bored of Iraq
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on April 13, 2006, 11:27:12 AM
This time, it's true. Iran already has nuclear weapons and ar just waiting to use them. Bush and everyone else just needs to leave them be. The more we toy with them, the worse things could become. If worse comes to worst, we could be seeing another major war... which could really be the war to end all wars. But let's hope nothing happens.
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Post by: Rikushinblade on April 13, 2006, 11:35:39 AM
Everything will be fine just leave it america to police the world
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Post by: WarxePB on April 13, 2006, 11:45:01 AM
Either way, it doesn't really matter.

If they actually DO have nuclear weapons, they'll nuke the world into oblivion, and no one'll care becaus we'll all be dead. :p
And if they're just making idle threats, then we're safe. Personally, I'm more worried about flooding in my area than getting nuked.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 13, 2006, 02:17:54 PM
With any luck the global scares will cancel each other out. Nuclear war kills bird flu-infected birds!
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Post by: Grandy on April 13, 2006, 02:48:04 PM
www.thebulletin.org/article_nn.php?art_ofn=nd02norris

 
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The five major nuclear powers currently have more than 20,000 nuclear warheads in their arsenals, as shown in the table at right. (...) the vast majority (96 percent) are in U.S. or Russian stockpiles.


 Oh, yeah, U.S. has soooooo right in not letting Iran make nuclear researches.
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 13, 2006, 02:58:58 PM
There are so many bad things going on in the world and most people do not care because it does not touch them directly. Many Americans complain about gas prices but when Bush was doing bad stuff everyone swallowed Fox News and some still do. This makes Omega Weapon very, very,  very menacing with the nonsense going on because people do not care until bad news is at their doorstep.

THe United States has no reason to secure border against Soviet Russia. People are people tortured right now as we write this and dying because neoconservatives are greedy and their excuses about spreading democracy are lies. Why not start with Cuba Or China? Is it because Chinese have the atomic weaponry or because they make toys for fat American children or computer parts parents???? We're sorry about strong emotions but the issues grow larger each passing year and when they don't get solved they stack up and higher like now

Bird flu is spreading to Europe and if it came to the USA it would take 90 days only to spread everywhere, check this out!!

  (http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060405_virtual_pandemic.html)


Something has to change and it won't go away by turning away.  :yell:
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Post by: MSlash67 on April 13, 2006, 03:01:46 PM
Iran gona nuke US? Where have I heard that before. Oh yeah, except it was north korea. People wave around the nukes as a threat. I say use 'em if you got the balls. Threats do squat.
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Post by: WarxePB on April 13, 2006, 03:11:30 PM
Again, if we do get nuked, run out of oil, or get infected by bird flu, it won't matter because we'll be dead.
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Post by: MSlash67 on April 13, 2006, 03:18:55 PM
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Again, if we do get nuked, run out of oil, or get infected by bird flu, it won't matter because we'll be dead.

Thats how I see this matter. If they want us dead, do it already. the panzies.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 13, 2006, 04:07:09 PM
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Iran produce nuclear weapons? Hell, it seems like Bush only said that because he felt like it.


OR! Heīs the one who gave this stuff to Iran...thatīs the kinda thing heīd do, that idiot.

Bush's so obssessed with nuclear bombs (that most of the time do NOT exist) that Iīd be happy to shove every single nuclear bomb in the world up his @sshole...good thing theyīre stocked right in his personal GARDEN (or should I say military bases the USA forced other countries to allow them to build in their territories?).

NOT to mention that the USA is freaking afraid of nukes only because theyīre the only ones that actually THREW them AT PEOPLE!

Oh, such an accident...

Phew.
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Post by: Archem on April 13, 2006, 04:18:59 PM
Oh man... I live in a major US city (Houston, TX), so if anyone decides to nuke the US, I'm totally screwed. This is like another friggin' Cuban Missle Crisis, and  all I can say is: I hope it ends the same way.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 13, 2006, 04:35:10 PM
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Oh man... I live in a major US city (Houston, TX), so if anyone decides to nuke the US, I'm totally screwed. This is like another friggin' Cuban Missle Crisis, and  all I can say is: I hope it ends the same way.


Dude, donīt worry! No country's gonna bomb you! The USA are always the first ones to throw the bombs!

I've been walking through your streets,
Where all your money's earning,
Where all your building's crying,
And clueless neckties working,
Revolving fake lawn houses,
Housing all your fears,
Desensitized by TV,
Overbearing advertising,
God of consumerism,
And all your crooked pictures,
Looking good, mirrorism,
Filtering information,
For the public eye,
Designed for profiteering,
Your neighbor, what a guy. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
Every time you drop the bomb,
You kill the god your child has born.
BOOM, BOOM,BOOM, BOOM
Modern globalization,
Coupled with condemnations,
Unnecessary death,
Matador corporations,
Puppeting your frustrations,
With the blinded flag,
Manufacturing consent
Is the name of the game,
The bottom line is money,
Nobody gives a f.uck.
4000 hungry children die per hour,
from starvation,
while billions spent on bombs,
create death showers. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
Every time you drop the bomb,
You kill the god your child has born.
BOOM, BOOM,BOOM, BOOM
BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM Why,why,why,why must we kill,kill,kill,kill, our own,own,own,own kind?? BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM,
Every time you drop the bomb,
You kill the god your child has born.
BOOM, BOOM,BOOM, BOOM
BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM/BOOM
Every time you drop the bomb. BACK TO TOP

System of a Down - BOOM!? (Steal this Album)

^Theyīre from Florida

Hail to SOAD  :bend:
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Post by: RPG LORD on April 13, 2006, 05:09:10 PM
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Everything will be fine just leave it america to police the world

Yes, Team America can solve anything. :smoke:
...or so Spottswoode hopes.
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Post by: Spike21 on April 13, 2006, 05:55:42 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
Oh man... I live in a major US city (Houston, TX), so if anyone decides to nuke the US, I'm totally screwed. This is like another friggin' Cuban Missle Crisis, and  all I can say is: I hope it ends the same way.


same kinda but i live right by a military radar, satlite, gauder thing that would be a main taget so yeah but ... meh
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Post by: Drighton on April 14, 2006, 02:46:28 AM
I find it very interesting what is going down right now on that other continent over there.

More and more "third-world" countries seem to be entering the nuclear age. Nuclear theory was originally intended as a means to create power - the electrical kind. It was the fear that Nazi Germany was already ahead in the development of a bomb using this theory that ushered the US to begin their program. However, in doing so, the first step was to create a nuclear reactor - a power generator.

Imagine what nuclear power would do to such countries as Africa. And who are we to deny them such a benefit? What gives anyone the right to judge who can have and who cannot? You create or buy your very own car, yet some big bully tells you that you cannot have it.

This is not to say that those countries becoming nuclear aren't doing so for purposes of warfare. I would not at all be surprised if the opposite were to happen. After all, prophecy fortells the next big war coming from the east (it might already have begun, but its usually after fulfillment that a prophecy can be completely understood).

I don't know why I'm typing this. Just thinking outloud I guess. (B)
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Post by: Archem on April 14, 2006, 03:03:33 AM
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Originally posted by Archem2
Oh man... I live in a major US city (Houston, TX), so if anyone decides to nuke the US, I'm totally screwed. This is like another friggin' Cuban Missle Crisis, and  all I can say is: I hope it ends the same way.


Dude, donīt worry! No country's gonna bomb you! The USA are always the first ones to throw the bombs!

Oh, I know that, and I don't care if they nuke the hell out of us. Honestly, I just hope that they release all the games in heaven, because that's all my life has going for me now. _sweat_ Yeah, I guess I'm only afraid of dying by an extremely painful manner. Yeah, I'm such a coward.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on April 14, 2006, 03:30:14 AM
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bomb_iran
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Post by: dinkler on April 14, 2006, 04:24:19 AM
Why would Iran nuke the USA. One warhead flying at us and we would be able to obliterate them.
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Post by: Drace on April 14, 2006, 06:22:18 AM
If the world's gonna be nuked, I'd like to be in the blast radius. Quick and painless dead FTW! I don't wanna survive and get mutated by the radio-active junk.
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Post by: MrMister on April 14, 2006, 06:31:58 AM
Anyone who doesn't have an American state in your location.. I am disregarding your opinion.

If we get nuked, I'm getting in one of the fallout shelters. Because Fallout is my favorite PC game and I want it to be real. I'd get in, considering how fertile I am.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 14, 2006, 10:26:35 AM
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Anyone who doesn't have an American state in your location.. I am disregarding your opinion.

If we get nuked, I'm getting in one of the fallout shelters. Because Fallout is my favorite PC game and I want it to be real. I'd get in, considering how fertile I am.


We still know the truth y'know...

But I agree with the Fallout thing...itīs the best game for PC, no question about it. I didnīt want to have to kill you though (cause thatīs the only thing we do in fallout...)
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on April 14, 2006, 10:43:44 AM
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http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bomb_iran

XD
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Post by: Grandy on April 14, 2006, 01:24:48 PM
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Why would Iran nuke the USA. One warhead flying at us and we would be able to obliterate them.


 You have a point there, it would be David against Golias, only this time Golias would have more, much more rocks to throw back at David, and a few soldier too.
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Post by: Drace on April 14, 2006, 01:43:10 PM
Isn't it Goliath?
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on April 14, 2006, 01:59:40 PM
Nobody really hates Canada (well, maybe a few, but they'd have to show me a good enough reason).  The thing is, Canada's most industrialised region, the southern tip of Ontario, is not that far away from places like Washington D.C. nuclear-range-wise.  I just happen to live there.  So I'm scared, I don't want to die.

Why does America always come across as being aggresive, obnoxious, and always wanting to fight some other country?
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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 14, 2006, 02:31:38 PM
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Isn't it Goliath?


Not for us, Brazilians.
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Post by: Sephiroth rocks on April 14, 2006, 02:47:47 PM
They're not gonna bomb U.S. They're making nuclear weapons to be used as tools of pressure and to show that Iran's the leading arabic country.
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Post by: Darkfox on April 14, 2006, 02:48:18 PM
In Arkansas it is "Grape Ape".
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Post by: Drace on April 14, 2006, 02:49:26 PM
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Isn't it Goliath?


Not for us, Brazilians.


Ok then.
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Post by: Scarface Larry on April 14, 2006, 04:46:03 PM
That "Do you want to bomb Iran" page was truly funneh.
But where I live (In Canada) is very obscure, I doubt anyone would want to bomb it, much less even live here....
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on April 14, 2006, 08:37:14 PM
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Nobody really hates Canada (well, maybe a few, but they'd have to show me a good enough reason).  The thing is, Canada's most industrialised region, the southern tip of Ontario, is not that far away from places like Washington D.C. nuclear-range-wise.  I just happen to live there.  So I'm scared, I don't want to die.

Why does America always come across as being aggresive, obnoxious, and always wanting to fight some other country?


That's what I don't understand. The only time this really ever happened was after the initial strikes in Iraq. We really didn't need to throw up a democracy over there. Just let them settle it on their own. Sure, there could be worse people than Saddam, but in a nation full of discord, Iraq wouldn't be much of a threat anyway.

Anyway, I take strong offense to America being labeled a vile nation. We don't do things just to see people die or to take over some other country. We just try to preserve the peace or whatever peace there is. Just because we're bustin our asses protecting the rest of the world doesn't mean you can slander us like crazy. If it wasn't for the combined efforts of the Biritsh and the Americans, Japan or Germany would be in complete control of the world or something close to that.
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Post by: Grandy on April 14, 2006, 10:06:07 PM
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Nobody really hates Canada (well, maybe a few, but they'd have to show me a good enough reason).  The thing is, Canada's most industrialised region, the southern tip of Ontario, is not that far away from places like Washington D.C. nuclear-range-wise.  I just happen to live there.  So I'm scared, I don't want to die.

Why does America always come across as being aggresive, obnoxious, and always wanting to fight some other country?


That's what I don't understand. The only time this really ever happened was after the initial strikes in Iraq. We really didn't need to throw up a democracy over there. Just let them settle it on their own. Sure, there could be worse people than Saddam, but in a nation full of discord, Iraq wouldn't be much of a threat anyway.

Anyway, I take strong offense to America being labeled a vile nation. We don't do things just to see people die or to take over some other country. We just try to preserve the peace or whatever peace there is. Just because we're bustin our asses protecting the rest of the world doesn't mean you can slander us like crazy. If it wasn't for the combined efforts of the Biritsh and the Americans, Japan or Germany would be in complete control of the world or something close to that.


 Like U.S. is right now? Oh, and please, remember, US IS NOT AMERICA. Thank you.
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Post by: pestcontrol on April 14, 2006, 11:00:31 PM
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Nobody really hates Canada (well, maybe a few, but they'd have to show me a good enough reason).  The thing is, Canada's most industrialised region, the southern tip of Ontario, is not that far away from places like Washington D.C. nuclear-range-wise.  I just happen to live there.  So I'm scared, I don't want to die.

Why does America always come across as being aggresive, obnoxious, and always wanting to fight some other country?


That's what I don't understand. The only time this really ever happened was after the initial strikes in Iraq. We really didn't need to throw up a democracy over there. Just let them settle it on their own. Sure, there could be worse people than Saddam, but in a nation full of discord, Iraq wouldn't be much of a threat anyway.

Anyway, I take strong offense to America being labeled a vile nation. We don't do things just to see people die or to take over some other country. We just try to preserve the peace or whatever peace there is. Just because we're bustin our asses protecting the rest of the world doesn't mean you can slander us like crazy. If it wasn't for the combined efforts of the Biritsh and the Americans, Japan or Germany would be in complete control of the world or something close to that.


America has to stop tryin to use policing the world as an excuse because the last wars are just america trying to take over more and more all the time. yugoslavia, afganistan, iraq.

and it was the russians who did most of the work in world war 2. americans didnt invade until the russians started winning. everyone keeps saying how bad things would be if germany and japan won and britain would be under nazi contrl with no freedom of expresion but guess what? things are like that now
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on April 14, 2006, 11:26:12 PM
Don;t get so pissed just because you guys don't do any notable ****.
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Post by: MrMister on April 14, 2006, 11:29:38 PM
People outside of America have no problem making assholish comments about George Bush and making fun of his pretzel fiascos etc. America is Canada's benefactor, and they have to police the world. If they stopped now, we'd really be screwed. Now unless any of you have a time machine, show some respect and stop bitching.
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Post by: Razor on April 14, 2006, 11:47:57 PM
I have a time machine. Except now I've gone and made Hitler think he would be a good leader. How did it effect the future?
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Post by: MrMister on April 14, 2006, 11:52:58 PM
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I have a time machine. Except now I've gone and made Hitler think he would be a good leader. How did it effect the future?

Well, it made MySpace users obsessed with calling anyone with authority 'nazis'. Good job, eh-hole.
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Post by: Razor on April 14, 2006, 11:59:22 PM
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I have a time machine. Except now I've gone and made Hitler think he would be a good leader. How did it effect the future?

Well, it made MySpace users obsessed with calling anyone with authority 'nazis'. Good job, eh-hole.

Well it's better than my last timeline. MySpace was the unquestioned system of the universe.
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Post by: Omega Weapon on April 15, 2006, 12:29:03 AM
OK people are taking this into realm of false dichotomy and that is never good and makes Omega Weapon stratch head.


It is true that America is starting to use its powerful nation more and more to bully people with 'if you are not with than you are against.' But even if there were no nuclear missiles in Iraq that does not mean every country America finds to be making them is really not making them!


People shouldn't answer and make snide remarks to feed into the stereotype of ignorant American who is defiant because he is culturally lacking. That is exactly what some show here. It's juvenile and rash. And it's imature.

"If they stopped now, we'd really be screwed. Now unless any of you have a time machine, show some respect and stop bitching."

Americans need to understand that they are not the only country in the world. We saw they knew little about France but Fox News said 'France sux0rz!' and everyone hated French and renamed food in defiance.  :blush:

The super hero image is false. America does good but it is not superman!!! It is right in this case to attack Iran but we should not overblow things here.

Muslims are not secular enough to handle atomic bombs except for Turkey. Pakistan is not secular and because of this recieves massive amounts of money from USA and they call it 'Ally against terror' when really the monies are being used to prop up the military coup leaders there. While this is bad, Iran would destroy Israel if they had nukes so it is OK for pakistan to have nukes because it is smaller and can be purchased by USA.


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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on April 15, 2006, 12:57:28 AM
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OK people are taking this into realm of false dichotomy and that is never good and makes Omega Weapon stratch head.


It is true that America is starting to use its powerful nation more and more to bully people with 'if you are not with than you are against.' But even if there were no nuclear missiles in Iraq that does not mean every country America finds to be making them is really not making them!


People shouldn't answer and make snide remarks to feed into the stereotype of ignorant American who is defiant because he is culturally lacking. That is exactly what some show here. It's juvenile and rash. And it's imature.

"If they stopped now, we'd really be screwed. Now unless any of you have a time machine, show some respect and stop bitching."

Americans need to understand that they are not the only country in the world. We saw they knew little about France but Fox News said 'France sux0rz!' and everyone hated French and renamed food in defiance.  :blush:

The super hero image is false. America does good but it is not superman!!! It is right in this case to attack Iran but we should not overblow things here.

Muslims are not secular enough to handle atomic bombs except for Turkey. Pakistan is not secular and because of this recieves massive amounts of money from USA and they call it 'Ally against terror' when really the monies are being used to prop up the military coup leaders there. While this is bad, Iran would destroy Israel if they had nukes so it is OK for pakistan to have nukes because it is smaller and can be purchased by USA.




So, people living in America should just shut up as everyone else slanders us? If I insulted or slandered someone else's country, everyone would pitch a fit and call me a racist bicth. We have our sense of pride, too. We are always criticizd for everything we do wrong, but are never recognized when we do something right. Why is that? Is it because we've become something that other countries want to be but can't? are they jealous. My answer would be yes, however, I'm sure there will be many that disagree with me and then come on to say that I'm an idiot, a bigot, or some other slanderous word.

The Middle Eastern countries are all bound together by the same religion pretty much. Almost the entire area is Muslim, if not all. In that light, they will of course see each other as "brothers" and willl stick up for each other. Of course there are the loons that want superiority and want to show off their guns to try and shut people up. They want to frighten the people, and if they need to, will use the nukes. A nice target would be Israel for them. If they do fire one, that would be the target. That would then create a chain reaction and blah blah blah.

Going back a bit, someone mentioned the US and Russia having the majority of the Nuclear programs or whatever. Well, here's a news flash: WE NEVER INTEND TO USE THEM! The United States will never use a nuclear weapon unless it is necessary, which isn't very often. Russia will not dare to make such an attempt because they are not the power they used to be and it wouldn't help them very much. Truman dropping the atomic bombs in WWII really didn't need to happen, but it wasn't like he was a great commander-in-chief in the first place. The countries that would more than likely fire a nuke would be China, NK, or one of the aggressive Middle Eastern countries. Why? They are more hostile, especially with the way things are.
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Post by: Grandy on April 15, 2006, 01:47:42 AM
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So, people living in America should just shut up as everyone else slanders us? If I insulted or slandered someone else's country, everyone would pitch a fit and call me a racist bicth


 I know how it feels, as Brazil isn't exactly an warrior of a country, so everyone says we didn't do anything, but then again, you all talk about WW2 and how you saived the world, but never mention Brazil fought with the allies. Okay, so in the end, but we did anyway.
 And as a note, you meant "people living in U.S. should just shut up as everyone else slander us?" didn't you?

 
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We are always criticizd for everything we do wrong, but are never recognized when we do something right.


 I bet Germany knows how it feels.

 
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Is it because we've become something that other countries want to be but can't? are they jealous.


 Of course we are, but, then, again, U.S. don't help that much yelling "We are better than you!" at us, disrespecting international pacts, don't caring about our opinion, etc.

 
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The Middle Eastern countries are all bound together by the same religion pretty much. Almost the entire area is Muslim, if not all. In that light, they will of course see each other as "brothers" and willl stick up for each other.


 Almost all America is christain, would YOU help us if we were at war?

 
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Of course there are the loons that want superiority and want to show off their guns to try and shut people up. They want to frighten the people, and if they need to, will use the nukes


 I won't comment over this because I do not know to which side are you reffering to.

 
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Going back a bit, someone mentioned the US and Russia having the majority of the Nuclear programs or whatever. Well, here's a news flash: WE NEVER INTEND TO USE THEM!


 Surprise to you: Cold war, both U.S. and Russia were waving the missiles at each other and screaming "I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna throw!"
 Besides, if you do not intent to use, why just not dispose of them? I would prove your good intentions AND would put you inside that pact both US and Russia made, but none respect, about the max number of nuklear warheads.

 
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which isn't very often.


 That means often it is?

 
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Truman dropping the atomic bombs in WWII really didn't need to happen, but it wasn't like he was a great commander-in-chief in the first place.


 You and I agree in this point.

 
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The countries that would more than likely fire a nuke would be China, NK, or one of the aggressive Middle Eastern countries. Why? They are more hostile , especially with the way things are.
 

 THAT is what I'm saying, you're acusing these countries the very same way you don't like we to acuse U.S.
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on April 15, 2006, 02:04:31 AM
 
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Almost all America is christain, would YOU help us if we were at war?


Well, I am not a Christian. As for who I would help, it depends.

 
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Surprise to you: Cold war, both U.S. and Russia were waving the missiles at each other and screaming "I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna throw!"
Besides, if you do not intent to use, why just not dispose of them? I would prove your good intentions AND would put you inside that pact both US and Russia made, but none respect, about the max number of nuklear warheads.


I said that we don't intend to use them unless it is necessary. Nuclear weapons are powerful things, and are hazardous to keep. In any case, we only intend to use these weapons if the need arises, which doesn't look like will be anytime soon. When an "enemy" is threatening to use a weapon of such high magnitude, you better have the same thing or something better to defend yourself with.

 
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THAT is what I'm saying, you're acusing these countries the very same way you don't like we to acuse U.S.


We don't go around threatening to fires nukes at people, nor do we have warlords or corrupt communist leaders that would use these weapons if they found it opportune. The countries I listed would use these as a first strike or offensive purpose. The U.S. would use them for defensive purposes. There is a huge difference.
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Post by: Grandy on April 15, 2006, 02:14:40 AM
 
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Well, I am not a Christian. As for who I would help, it depends.


 But then... you mean muslins wouldn't SURELY help each other as they are from the same religion?

 
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When an "enemy" is threatening to use a weapon of such high magnitude, you better have the same thing or something better to defend yourself with.


 Having some of those is one thing, but having more than 1000 is just too much, and following your logic, Iran is right of amking an atomic bomb, as U.S. has some, and they are in war, even if U.S. doesn't shows interest in launching it, it's better they have one IN CASE U.S. does.

 
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corrupt communist leaders that would use these weapons if they found it opportune


 Again, that's an acusation against communists that you wouldn't like if it was directed against you.

 
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The countries I listed would use these as a first strike or offensive purpose.


 Do you have any proof?

 
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The U.S. would use them for defensive purposes.


 You can't use a BOMB as defense! bombs explode! They hurt! They kill! Anything bomb related is offensive, doesn't matter who started the fight, if you throw a punch, you're attacking!

 
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There is a huge difference.


 No, there isn't.
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Post by: Sephiroth rocks on April 15, 2006, 09:01:39 AM
Well I think we should be grateful that the U.S. polices the world. Somebody has to do it and U.S. has taken that hard task and are paying with their own lives. Besides many countries has got nuclear weapons (e.g. France) But then again shouldn't they get rid of their nuclear weapons when they're getting so bitchy whenever another country gets their hands on weapons of mass destruction?
But anyway in the future we might need to find someone else to police the world now that U.S. seems to be overtaken by cristian fanatics (like that they teach what they call "Intelligent Design" on the same level that they teach science which I find disgusting).

So IMO the americans are doing a good job but it would be better if it was the UN that policed the world instead. (yeah at the moment U.S. seems to have more power than UN which is kinda scary to think of)
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Post by: MrMister on April 15, 2006, 09:18:19 AM
All Christians don't believe in a lot of that crap. Teaching intelligent design in school is ridiculous. You can mention it, that's it.
The point is a lot of Christian idiots out there ruin it for the rest of us by calling themselves a Christian organization and stuff. Heh, I hate Christian music, I'm prochoice, and I don't force my religeon on anyone else. Stop assuming I do.
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on April 15, 2006, 11:40:37 AM
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Originally posted by MrMister
All Christians don't believe in a lot of that crap. Teaching intelligent design in school is ridiculous. You can mention it, that's it.
The point is a lot of Christian idiots out there ruin it for the rest of us by calling themselves a Christian organization and stuff. Heh, I hate Christian music, I'm prochoice, and I don't force my religeon on anyone else. Stop assuming I do.


True that.
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Post by: Grandy on April 15, 2006, 01:37:51 PM
 I don't think anyone should police the world. It was for that reasong that the UN was made, if the UN doesn't take off Saddan from his throne, that's because it's not they'r problem, nor it is U.S's problem, if you think about it, no one even cared about that until not too long ago, more specically, until the 11/9, which was Osama's doing, not Saddan. So, why did we suddenly start to care about a tirane that was like that for years? Of course, I remember Bush saying that Saddan was hiding chemical weapons, AND Osama, but now no one could find both, and Bush also doesn't mention both anymore, why's that? Besides, now that has been proven Saddan wasn't culprit of any accusations, why doesn't set him free? Even police have no rights to mantain people under arrest without an accusation.

 On a side note.... how did this discution started again?