Post by: Sion Suncrest on May 31, 2006, 12:38:41 PM
" As our path becomes clear...
New doors shall open..."
Hehe, Hi everyone! MY browser is finally allowing me to return to the forums. Because of this, I'm restarting my thread ( Going on the 3rd or 4th time now. ) due to the spam that flooded my previous. I hope you all like!
And so, a family legacy began - 15 years ago...
Much before that – long ago in the World of Alterra, the wind's lips whispered peace as it swept through the vast expanses of the plains. Thousands of years of peace blew by, until the race of Humans began to quarrel with the many other races of Alterra. A single ash of conflict erupted into a fire that would burn away at the years of peace that so delicately embraced the land of Alterra for many ages.
At the center of the conflict was the Chaos Kingdom - said to be the most powerful dominion in the all of five kingdoms of Alterra. In times of peril, The Great Goddess would call for the Origintas to aid the Chaos Kingdom. Origintas were youth whose lineage traced back to the Ancients and whose purpose was to restore peace to the world.
By the power of the Origintas, the conflict eventually calmed, and more time passed by under another blanket of peace. A century later, this all changed. A very powerful Originta abused his heavenly gift, turned against the other gods, and attempted to use his power to shape the world to his own fantasies and desires. It was then that our hero's father, Kaiza the Flame Originta, undertook a dangerous journey to defeat this monster. Human Power alone could not vanquish the evil Originta, and so Kaiza gave his life to push his Originta power to its very limits.
Though Kaiza died, his sacrifice saved the World of Alterra, sealing the Fallen One for Fourteen Years until his son, Seeo, was mature to accept his burden and finish what his father had started. Seeo Briune is now a seventeen year old Knight in the Sirdeka Army. Stubborn and playful, Seeo usually missed the points of some of the essential things in life. A new war between Humans and Monsters begins - one to rival any previous war.
A struggle to save Sirdeka's Castle will change Seeo's life forever. The young knight now searches for the truth and will soon discover his destiny to become the next Flame Originta. As his father before him, Seeo's destiny would soon hold the fate of the realm of Alterra in his hands.
This is his story.
The story of Chaos Generations
These are some of the characters
Seeo Briune
Age: 17
Class: Knight
Likes: Meeting new people
Hates: Wars.
Description: Stubborn and Kind, Seeo has a sort of vibe that draws people near him. As time goes on he becomes an even better leader. He wants to know the truth. He wants to know what his purpose is. Why is it up to him to save Chaos?
Snowe Novell
Age:19
Class: Squire
Likes: A challenge
Hates: Weak Enemies
Description: Snowe Novell lives in Sirdeka with his grandmother.His Parents were said to have gone on a top secret mission of some sort. But hes never heard of them since. Being away from his parents gave him deep pain. So he began practicing in the art of swordsmanship. Soon he didnt care about his parents and wanted nothing more than to fight. Meeting Seeo, Snowe tried to push him to be strong just so he could fight Seeo and have a good timet. But Seeo and Snowe bonded and it seems like they never leave each others side. After Seeo's Memory was lost. Snowe slowly helped recover it.
Erina Hanclett
Age:17
Class: Archer
Likes: Life
Hates: Rudeness
Descriptions: Erina Runs a local Grocery Store in the town Arcia.
When A certain Kidnapping takes place. Erina goes out and searches for a team to help her save him. That team happened to have a leader by the name of Seeo. The following events have Erina journeying with him. Maybe Seeo has a thing for the archer girl..
NEW!! Rail Lancore
Age:20
Class: Calamity Wielder
Likes: Peace
Hates: Shadow
Description: Rail Lancore is Sid's son, and labeled the strongest swordsman in the Sirdeka army. Close friends with Seeo and Snowe, Rail is strong but unlike Snowe. He is very humble and is always encouraging his friends. A few years ago, Rail found himself in some alternate dream world, similar to that of the Mana World. Here a voice spoke to Rail, and told him of the Shadow, a race of demonic shadow creatures that were created everytime the Originta's killed off monsters and enemies. Defenseless, rail tried to flee the creatures, but in seconds, a magnificent blade appeared in his hand. This sword was known as Calamity, and was known as one of the ultimate weapons to fight back Shadow and any other monsters. When Rail woke up from this dream, he found that he had th epower to call upon Calamity at will. The blade materializes in Rail's hand whenever he wishes it, he has told no one about how he's aquired such strength, and is supervised when he departs Sirdeka, Calamity cannot fall into the wrong hands...
Sid Lancore
Age:43
Class: General
Likes: Order
Hates: Flaws
Description: General Sid leads Seeo's Knight Division. He is pretty cocky, and takes great pride with his knights. He takes a liking to Seeo and Snowe because of their determination. And adds them to his division in hopes to strengthen them. He is the father of Rail, who like him are connected to Seeo and Snowe. After the attack, Sid unleashes his men and travels the world alone in disgust. When Seeo and Sid reunite, Sid learns the truth about the destruction of Sirdeka. Enraged, he journeys with Seeo to take revenge on the one he called his freind, and to find his son, Rail.
Cheska ????
Age:19
Likes: Winning
Hates: Being made a fool of
Description: Somehow Cheska knows of the Data Kingdoms ambitions as well. So hes been trying to recruit members too. He doesnt have many with him. But his strength makes up for the lack of members. Seeo's Rival. Cheska is a well spoken young man. Yet he doesnt care much for other people. Said by some that he knows what lies ahead. And he usually speaks of having the "aqua" power.
" Note the blonde haired Heroes were placeholders. "
~CBS, and CMS with implemented Item Creation
~ Voice Acting
~Original Music by Donathin Frye, Tferalfox and Strifeminer.
~Custom Graphics (Character Sets, Battle Characters, Message Boxes...)
Voice Department
Matt Sakata - Seeo
Brandon Rainsford - Snowe
Lindsay Wakana - Erina
Sonny Swinhart - Sid
Richard Law - Cheska
Kyle Dakralai - Alex
Shireen Azarmi - Ken
Alana Boxe - Falice
Donathin Frye - Kaiza
Kagome Higurashi - Jelta
Chaos Generations.com (http://chaos-generations.atspace.com/)
Gameplay Video 1 (http://www.savefile.com/files/8096277)
Sample Songs
02-Sword and Shield (http://www.savefile.com/files/1195337)
012-Depth (http://www.savefile.com/files/3201752)
The first link is the song Sword and Shield, the 2nd song in the soundtrack and the official battle song for the game.
The second song, is Depth. Used for certain dungeons and caves.
These songs are just 2 samples of what to expect from the game as a whole.
~Seeo
Post by: Robotam on May 31, 2006, 06:47:54 PM
Haven't really read trough it all, just took a quick look at your screenshots. Looks good. :)
Post by: Sion Suncrest on May 31, 2006, 07:55:15 PM
Battle Sprite Update
A funny person Kryon is. At least, pertaining to how he always appears when I least expect him too. This time he brought me and RoganSarine ( The programmer ) a little treat. Seeo's Sprites! Nearly all the sprites for Seeo have been completed. Of which, I have a small teaser to show everyone. The only thing missing is the sword and bandana which will be finished in no time. Because the systems are almost done as well, I'm working on the intro and gameplay in the begining of the game the most. Keep your eyes peeled for more.
Post by: Xecoa on May 31, 2006, 08:00:26 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on May 31, 2006, 09:52:42 PM
The panorama backgrounds are really cool, but the only thing is that if you have some of those cool panoramas and some normal maps, it doesn't really match. The Way series did that, and it didn't really bother me, but I still think that if you want to use a differant type of mapping style, you should use that style for all the maps.
Post by: Sion Suncrest on May 31, 2006, 10:17:20 PM
~Sion
Post by: Zerlina on May 31, 2006, 10:25:50 PM
(Except for the choir) it sounds like a real orchestra, but (unless you're really rich) I can't see how one was used. I'm just curious to know whether a synth was used or real instruments.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on May 31, 2006, 10:38:21 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on May 31, 2006, 11:56:32 PM
@Zerlina: The songs were done by DonathinFrye and a few of his friends. I'll ask him for you the next time I see him.
Post by: Robotam on June 01, 2006, 02:10:51 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 01, 2006, 06:47:44 PM
If you like these, wait till' you see them when they're finalized.
Post by: Linkforce on June 01, 2006, 07:13:18 PM
lol, anyways, keep up the good work dude. I shall be keeping my eye on this. ^^'
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 03, 2006, 03:38:36 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 04, 2006, 03:52:29 PM
"Hey, I've got a cool game to show you!"
-to-
"Hey, look what resources my friends made!"
-really fast.
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 04, 2006, 11:44:09 PM
Thanks for your intrest in that though.
~Sion
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 05, 2006, 12:33:44 AM
~Me
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 05, 2006, 04:46:18 PM
This is the current mock-up of the battle system. There will probabaly be a few changes within the next few days. At the bottom you have each individual characters HP and MP display. The top left displays enemies, And the top right displays each charcaters overskill bars.
( Only 3 charcaters can participate in battle, was just for show. )
Of course theres Destiny Bonds, and Originta Transformation. But Destiny Bonds will only be lightly touched upon in the demo. And Originta Transformation will be unlocked in a future release. I thought I'd just try and clear a couple things up as to not leave everyone iin the dark about this system.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 05, 2006, 07:46:36 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 05, 2006, 08:16:48 PM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 05, 2006, 08:46:37 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 05, 2006, 09:35:02 PM
~Sion
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 05, 2006, 09:55:29 PM
And, if you wanna save time on the battle characters, might I suggest editing some of the ToP gameboy sprites?
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 05, 2006, 09:58:40 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 05, 2006, 10:03:47 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Maybe to the person who's actually makin em.
Oh, of course. As if the comment was directed to Sion XD.
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 05, 2006, 10:24:15 PM
Right now I'm working on the events in Sirdeka, I'll bring some new screens soon.
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 06, 2006, 02:57:26 AM
As promised, some screenshots from the seemingly successful attempt at revamping Seeo's intro. The first half of the intro having to do with Seeo's father from 15 years in the past. To a gloomy day of reflection by Seeo. This all comes before the main story begins to unfold.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 06, 2006, 03:22:38 AM
That's really cliche. You characters, your plot, everything. I can't exactly tell you how to improve without completly removing certin parts.
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 06, 2006, 04:06:00 AM
~Sion
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 06, 2006, 06:51:12 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 08, 2006, 05:11:32 PM
Snowe finaly enters the fray! First appearing in the flashback intro. And wearing the uniform designed by Lily. Things seem to get better every day folks, soon I'll be bringing screenshots of the CMS!
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 08, 2006, 05:31:15 PM
At least the graphics are good. A lot of contradictory black. Strangely dark, and scary looking even though you're using Mac & Blue and Secret of Mana (Which is supposed to be bright and colorful).
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 08, 2006, 05:33:33 PM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
I read the storyline too. It is cliche. I could almost predict the entire outcome of the game. Unless you can give us a REALLY dramatic plot twist, I don't know what to say.
At least the graphics are good. A lot of contradictory black. Strangely dark, and scary looking even though you're using Mac & Blue and Secret of Mana (Which is supposed to be bright and colorful).
Lol, in other words, rainbow it up some!
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on June 08, 2006, 05:39:17 PM
Besides the very large filesized voices, the cliche' story and second-rate characters, what are YOU doing?
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 08, 2006, 06:00:24 PM
Oh and thats just the intro, the game isnt really all that dark. Theres actually quite alot of humor and such. I just had the intro having a gloomy feel to it, since its raining during its events.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 08, 2006, 06:12:16 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 08, 2006, 06:25:23 PM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 08, 2006, 06:54:22 PM
A modernish/black Menu
A mostly Black/Dark Title Screen
Mac & Blue chipsets with a lot of black in them
Facesets with a lot of black
A lot of dark colored charasets
A reliance on Secret of Mana backdrops which use a lot of black.
That's pretty dark. You might not know this, but if you keep one ,main color throughout the game, it's gonna affect your game in some way. I see black, I think gothic or something.
Good example. You have modern looking menus. You're main character wearing lots of black. Your facesets use a lot of black outlines (The one eye faceset thing is kind creepy). That black/brown tree in the back makes the screen feel darkish. Your monsters look like pope approved pokemon. WHY THE **** WOULD SOMEONE WANT TO STAB THEM?!
I played a game with similar graphics to this one, and the entire game was about vampires. Can you add a radiating light picture or something since you're using a CBS? The more you know.
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 08, 2006, 07:02:30 PM
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on June 08, 2006, 08:17:23 PM
And you're the Nazi dictator, Sion.
Post by: Ephiam on June 08, 2006, 09:41:12 PM
i've been keeping my eye on this for quite some time.I hope that it turns out rather good.
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 08, 2006, 10:20:34 PM
Hehe, we wont let you down.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 08, 2006, 10:54:32 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 08, 2006, 11:51:01 PM
Anyways, life goes on. I probabaly wont have that feature added, but hey, we all have the right to dream.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 09, 2006, 02:54:52 AM
But like I said before, the graphics are gorgeous.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 09, 2006, 02:56:19 AM
Post by: Ace of Spades on June 09, 2006, 05:41:10 AM
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on June 12, 2006, 01:25:27 AM
If I saw something like that, I'd go
"Awwwwww, cute."
Then pet it and go on.
Then again, don't make random encounters "**** your pants and run in the other direction" ugly.
Post by: xJericho on June 12, 2006, 04:11:53 AM
does anyone remember "the puss in boots" from shrek II *gg
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 12, 2006, 04:51:49 AM
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Originally posted by xJericho
don't say anything about cute enemies
does anyone remember "the puss in boots" from shrek II *gg
Yes, and, he ended up being a good guy that Shrek didn't have to bring harm to.
Post by: xJericho on June 12, 2006, 03:57:07 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 12, 2006, 10:07:11 PM
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Originally posted by xJericho
you're right, but he's a killer :D
Who never killed XD
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 12, 2006, 10:56:05 PM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 13, 2006, 12:04:23 AM
Post by: Ace of Spades on June 13, 2006, 01:49:44 AM
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on June 13, 2006, 07:36:37 AM
Post by: alsokay on June 15, 2006, 04:58:14 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 18, 2006, 07:19:47 AM
RoganSarine and Kryon are going to be fully complete with everything by the time I return so I'll be back with a bang. You can count on it.
As closure, I've finished the entire intro, and I'll be making a video of it to release to the team members some time today...
A spriteless screenshot of part of Kaiza's intro. But of course we all know who's helping witht hat problem... The other day, I was also able to get an anime artist confirm taking on the job of helping with character design, artwork, etc. At this point I'm doing what I can. Which is fiishing the events for the demo. Everything else, relies on the team members work...
Final Mockup with attempted improved graphics, tried using diifferent types of monsters, this screen sports a BOF3 styled enemy. There are only like 16 of them out that I've found though so I probabaly wont use it, but I'm looking...
I took the beginning of Seeo's story where he has a flashback of a spar with Snowe to Sirdeka Forest, I think it looks alot better visually and doesnt feel as cluttered as the last screen of this event.
Heh, well thats it. I'm guessing but when I return there should be screenshots of the CBS and CMS, more artwork but this time of actual events, finished battle sprites yay! And probabaly finished events.
I've also updated the first page with even more detailed plot information and main characters.
This is information before, only exclusive to Omengate Sanctum.
See you guys next month!
~Sion
Post by: Dragoon de Sol on June 18, 2006, 11:19:48 AM
Sorry, that made no sense.
Why is someone devoting their time to an unoriginal game that is in no way yours, but your putting your name on it because your reputation sucks and you can't handle it?
FYI, I voted better luck next time...
By next time, I mean when you try some graphics/coding **** yourself.
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 18, 2006, 03:41:27 PM
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Originally posted by Dragoon de Sol
Why is someone devoting their time to your game?
Sorry, that made no sense.
Why is someone devoting their time to an unoriginal game that is in no way yours, but your putting your name on it because your reputation sucks and you can't handle it?
FYI, I voted better luck next time...
By next time, I mean when you try some graphics/coding **** yourself.
You should probably shut the whole in your face that tends to let out some pretty ridiculous comments. Every game put out on the market is made by a team of people. There's nothing wrong with a team of people working on an rm2k3 game. Are you jealous or something? Just because YOU don't believe in this game. THEY obviously do, or they wouldn't be willing to work on it.
I like to look at Sion as more of a representative for the team. I'm sure if the other members wanted they could sign up on Charas and post here too. So yeah, think before you open your mouth Dragoon.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on June 18, 2006, 04:50:32 PM
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 24, 2006, 07:54:58 AM
Its not really an update but I'm going try and have Atelier Iris, Disgea styled event sequences with popart. This now possible thanks to Createmations newest artist. Kitsune, originally I was going to keep these hidden from the public, but I'll just show you all these two additions.
I'm highly impressed so I'll show you guys some artwork.
Seeo and Snowe, practice battle in Sirdeka Forest. Will be colored and will have a background. An event picture. Goes with a screenshot I posted recently of Seeo and Snowe in Sirdeka Forest.
~incomplete~ Erina's new design
Also, I touched up parts of Kaizai's intro, it'll be one of the cooler events I'll show soon with the seemingly final update until Demo time. Thanks.
~Sion
Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 24, 2006, 12:55:36 PM
I'm pretty sure you frequent Gaming World and not here. I think you have more of a following over there.
Okay, I went back and looked at some of your screenshots and I'm glad you took the advice about the monsters. I can tell it's hard to find that kind of style. If it helps:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/lune/
www.videogamesprites.net
You might have to take off the >br if it's there. I'm pretty sure you've seen that site since he's from Gaming World. I'd use the Legend of Mana bosses as they seem to fit your style. With the other link, you can probably use the Seiken Densetsu 3 sprites. They'll look a little pixelly compared to your other stuff though.
Your indoor maps and panoramas look amazing, but your outdoor maps could use some serious work.
I'd say use the search button up top neer the Charas Forum banner and search for the author Robotam. He uses Mac & Blue a lot and his mapping tutorials are very well done.
You could also read Meiscool's mapping tut even though he doesn't use as much Mac & Blue.
Now I like the look of the gameplay. Both graphics wise and gameplay wise. I'm not a fan of the black menus but I'll learn to deal with it.
I admit I'm a little disappointed with the story. This is the main reason I play RPG games. Your storyline is really cliche. You also have a lot of contradicting ideas in your storyline. I can't see how your hero hates war, but is still the most important soldier in the army. I'm hoping for a dramatic plot twist and some amazing character development to come out of this. I have a lot of doubts though.
There is way too much to improve on here. Oh well. You are probably a good person because you've managed to keep a team.
A+ to that.
Either way, I'm unsure about this game.:unsure:
BTW: Other than for fun, what's the point of artwork?
Post by: Sion Suncrest on June 24, 2006, 05:31:34 PM
Whats wrong witht he maps? They were done by Sanosuke perfectly.
The story, you're right Seeo hates war. But he's trying to become stronger to protect Sirdeka in TIMES of war. He's not the most important and is really not comparable to the elite swordsman in the army like Rail. He was first given the chance to fight in the front lines
because of his being Remiel's grandson, who was once an elite.
Also, if it doesnt seem like much now, there are so many spirals in the plot to keep you interested. Characters change, and mature. Even to the point where Seeo's appearence changes slightly. The beginning of the game is supposed to dish out alot of mysterious isusues and most wont be answered until later on in the game, the fact that the plot has you peicing past events together to understand the world and thehappenings of it is what I like about the story.
Hm, graphics, thanks for helping me out with the monster sprites, yeah in fact I was act Lune last night. But I already had thoes bosses. I'll check out the Seiken Densetsu 3 sprites though.
Phew, thank you for your help! I really appreciate it.
~Sion