Post by: Drighton on June 09, 2006, 08:14:06 PM
It seems not one person can come up with a unique, original idea.
To what am I referring? Why movies, music, even cars! Just today I've heard The Buzz play two LOUSY remakes of older, decent songs. Apparently someone decided to 'rock out' an old song rather than write their own suckass music. The drummer was spazzing out, I imagine the guitar player's hands were bleeding, all because they felt the song was better if they upped the tempo by 150 and played 32nd notes. I'm not much of a fan of artists using peices of 80s music, or an entire song, as background music for their work.
Then you have the movies that are, again, remakes of older movies or converted from old TV shows or comics. Who really thought the world needed an Elektra, Ultraviolet, Hulk, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, or Hellboy? Xmen? I think 3 is enough. We don't need a Wolverine, Magneto, Storm, or Jubilee spinoff. Though, I'd like to think that Spiderman and XMen are the exceptions as they are the only ones which people have bothered to do right.
Don't get me wrong, there are some things that deserve or need a remake. I think Superman has been a long time coming. War of the Worlds was made so long ago, the remake was a good way to introduce it to the newer generations.
So what am I saying? I think its time to see something new. A remake or cover is nice now and then, if done with restraint, and when done is done by the right person.
Movies are unappealing to me and music all sounds the same, as if made off a template or MadLibs, or perhaps put together by manitees. They're either remakes or crappy sequels
Well it seems its up to (the tail end of?) my generation to pick up the slack. Heres to the hope of original entertainment.
Post by: SonicChaos7 on June 09, 2006, 08:16:46 PM
Post by: Drighton on June 09, 2006, 08:22:29 PM
{
If fHowManyYearsAgo >= 25 then
{
Remake();
}
Else
{
DieFromAIDS(AndBurnInHell);
}
Post by: Drighton on June 09, 2006, 08:39:22 PM
Post by: Apex on June 09, 2006, 08:39:45 PM
(http://imageshack.us)That's the reason, because they can make a quick buck.
Post by: Drace on June 09, 2006, 08:58:27 PM
Remakes draw attention to the original most of the times too. Which is good.
Post by: Weregnome on June 10, 2006, 04:25:09 AM
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I don't mind remakes if they're done right. Bad remakes **** me off, but then again. Bad songs, games or movies **** me off so it's on the same level.
Remakes draw attention to the original most of the times too. Which is good.
very true point ole bean
Post by: SaiKar on June 10, 2006, 05:06:03 AM
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 10, 2006, 05:08:04 AM
Imagine the day when they make remakes of remakes of remakes? Or "Cartoon Networl: The Movie".
Post by: SonicChaos7 on June 10, 2006, 05:17:24 AM
Post by: Drace on June 10, 2006, 06:25:31 AM
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I wanna see them remake The Super Mario Bros. Movie. Make it better.
Not something on The Super Mario Bros., but on the Resident Evil movies.
I am thinking about becoming a director, cause well... movies is what I love for. Most of you know that. I love movies and I find that some aren't done good enough. If I do go after this and become a director, I'm going to try to make a remake of the RE movies. This time, done like the game. Thus making it a scare-horror and not an action-flick.
Yes, I wanna be something like Rob Zombie later. A bitching bastard with great music who loves horror movies and makes them too.
Post by: Razor on June 10, 2006, 06:35:31 AM
Post by: Drace on June 10, 2006, 07:56:44 AM
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I thought you lived for illegally downloading hours upon hours of TV and movies everyday?
Well both... and music... and porn...
Post by: Sephiroth rocks on June 10, 2006, 11:05:59 AM
Remakes made with respect of the original that're done to bring the original back on the agenda. (good)
Remakes made for easy money by ppl that can't come up with anything on their own. (must strangle)
I wouldn't say that I'm against remakes but I would say that I'm against the last kind of remakes.
Post by: Almeidaboo on June 10, 2006, 01:01:15 PM
Hm, I donīt really care yīknow...itīs been a while since Iīve noticed that people are having dificulties to make new things, specially in the RPG area.
I canīt ask for much, cause I donīt have many original ideas also...I think people should work more with the future and fiction, because Itīs getting harder and harder to make new medieval theme stories. The future doesnīt exist, so it can be anything!
Thatīs why I like Metal Gear, FF7, Fallout (YEAH!!), Xenostuff, etc...
Post by: Red XIII on June 10, 2006, 02:22:36 PM
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Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks
Well, remakes can be split up into two categories:
Remakes made with respect of the original that're done to bring the original back on the agenda. (good)
Remakes made for easy money by ppl that can't come up with anything on their own. (must strangle)
I wouldn't say that I'm against remakes but I would say that I'm against the last kind of remakes.
Totally agree. Iīm also against the "new stories using old stories names" like that crappy Simbad movie Disney made some time ago.
Post by: oooog on June 10, 2006, 02:54:20 PM
Post by: Revolution911 on June 10, 2006, 03:00:35 PM
Post by: drenrin2120 on June 10, 2006, 03:01:21 PM
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The only remake I'm looking forward to is Final Fantasy VII on PS3. Specifically, that ranks Top 5 in my favorite games, and the graphics look similar to Advent Children, which one of the greatest things I've ever seen, not limited to movies.
So, they're actually gonna do a remake of FFVII? As long as they don't **** it up and throw story out the window for graphics.
Post by: oooog on June 10, 2006, 03:04:51 PM
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So, they're actually gonna do a remake of FFVII? As long as they don't **** it up and throw story out the window for graphics.
In other words.....Final Fantasy X (In my opinon.)
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Well it's not a remake, but I had an idea for a game. Its about 2 plummers, who need to save a princess from a giant turtle slash dinosaur thing. And they pretty much go through all these pointless levels to get to her, but hey, the levels are what make it fun.
Hey! You are remaking a game! It's called Metroid!
Post by: Drace on June 10, 2006, 03:08:47 PM
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Originally posted by oooog
quote: Originally posted by drenrin2120
So, they're actually gonna do a remake of FFVII? As long as they don't **** it up and throw story out the window for graphics.
In other words.....Final Fantasy X (In my opinon.)
Explain yourself.
Post by: Smokey_locs2006 on June 10, 2006, 03:11:50 PM
Post by: Revolution911 on June 10, 2006, 03:13:02 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Revolution911
Well it's not a remake, but I had an idea for a game. Its about 2 plummers, who need to save a princess from a giant turtle slash dinosaur thing. And they pretty much go through all these pointless levels to get to her, but hey, the levels are what make it fun.
Hey! You are remaking a game! It's called Metroid!
Well I was going more for Tetris but damn, ya got me.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 10, 2006, 03:58:54 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on June 10, 2006, 04:44:42 PM
In marketing, if an idea goes over well, they market it and sell it. If someone makes a good super hero movie and it makes a lot of money, people are going to use that idea again and again until it stops making money. If a movie did well in the past, it might do well if you remake it. So the reason there are so many remakes and stuff is because WE buy it.
Post by: Drace on June 10, 2006, 04:51:27 PM
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They're not gonna remake FF7 on the PS3. They may re-release it like they did with FF anthology and FF chronicals, but they won't remake it. What they showed was a tech demo, not an actual game. They did the same thing with FF6 for the N64. They made a tech demo of FF6 on the N64 with 3d graphics and stuff, but it was never made into a game, nor was it meant to be. The same thing will happen to FF7 (sadly).
In marketing, if an idea goes over well, they market it and sell it. If someone makes a good super hero movie and it makes a lot of money, people are going to use that idea again and again until it stops making money. If a movie did well in the past, it might do well if you remake it. So the reason there are so many remakes and stuff is because WE buy it.
He mentioned X-Men and Spiderman. There are most of those cause, but they're SEQUALS, not remakes. Now Batman and Superman should hang up the cape already.
Also, the Wolverine and Magneto movies are prequels, not remakes.
Post by: charaman on June 10, 2006, 05:58:49 PM
Post by: oooog on June 10, 2006, 08:20:40 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by oooog
quote: Originally posted by drenrin2120
So, they're actually gonna do a remake of FFVII? As long as they don't **** it up and throw story out the window for graphics.
In other words.....Final Fantasy X (In my opinon.)
Explain yourself.
It's hard to explain really. I suppose when the game was made, they focused to heavily on making the graphics good to distract the usage of similar plots that have been used in the other final fantasy's. I suppose I felt since it was moving to a superior system, they should've played with the plot, rather than the graphics. Granted the Sphere Grid was an interesting twist (That I actually liked), I just couldn't get into the game. It was sort of like Inuyasha for me. It started out slow, and when you felt there was going to be a rising action, or even a climax, before you knew it, it was slow again. Also, it had sort of a Halo 2 feel to it. When Halo came out, it was considered a god among games (From where I'm from.). So when the sequel came out, a lot was expected from it, and it just did not deliver.
Keep in mind how I said:
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originally posted by me
In my opinion
You of course, do not have to agree with me, and that's why I posted that part.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 10, 2006, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: oooog on June 10, 2006, 08:46:22 PM
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I never really thought about remakes as a bad thing. No-one's forcing you to listen to/Watch/play them. >.>
I am. I am forcing you to. Listen to the 5,000 Mario theme remix's, now.
Post by: Drace on June 10, 2006, 11:26:52 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by oooog
quote: Originally posted by drenrin2120
So, they're actually gonna do a remake of FFVII? As long as they don't **** it up and throw story out the window for graphics.
In other words.....Final Fantasy X (In my opinon.)
Explain yourself.
It's hard to explain really. I suppose when the game was made, they focused to heavily on making the graphics good to distract the usage of similar plots that have been used in the other final fantasy's. I suppose I felt since it was moving to a superior system, they should've played with the plot, rather than the graphics. Granted the Sphere Grid was an interesting twist (That I actually liked), I just couldn't get into the game. It was sort of like Inuyasha for me. It started out slow, and when you felt there was going to be a rising action, or even a climax, before you knew it, it was slow again. Also, it had sort of a Halo 2 feel to it. When Halo came out, it was considered a god among games (From where I'm from.). So when the sequel came out, a lot was expected from it, and it just did not deliver.
Keep in mind how I said:
quote: originally posted by me
In my opinion
You of course, do not have to agree with me, and that's why I posted that part.
Good. I was almost thinking you were gonna give some weird theory on why Tidus is Cloud and Sin or Seymour is Sephiroth.
PS: Love the new Emoticons... :jest:
Post by: Razor on June 10, 2006, 11:34:10 PM
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Now Batman and Superman should hang up the cape already.
Batman should never hang up the cape.
Superman however should just hang himself.
Post by: oooog on June 10, 2006, 11:42:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Drace
Now Batman and Superman should hang up the cape already.
Batman should never hang up the cape.
Superman however should just hang himself.
And why? Batman would so beat Superman. Batman's ability to put whatever he needs in battle into his belt is superior to anything Superman can do. This is because He can put Kryptonite into his belt and then Superman is done.
Post by: Desimodontidae on June 11, 2006, 02:04:47 AM
Post by: Archem on June 11, 2006, 02:56:18 AM
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Batman would so beat Superman. Batman's ability to put whatever he needs in battle into his belt is superior to anything Superman can do. This is because He can put Kryptonite into his belt and then Superman is done.
He did, actually, somewhere, when he fights Supes. Just don't remember what it was in... Either cartoon or comic book, but not sure which one... Plus, he just plain owns.
Post by: WarxePB on June 11, 2006, 03:28:48 AM
But that's a bit off topic. I like to think that if a remake's done well, no one should care that it's a remake.
Post by: Weregnome on June 11, 2006, 10:13:04 AM
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quote: Originally posted by oooog
Batman would so beat Superman. Batman's ability to put whatever he needs in battle into his belt is superior to anything Superman can do. This is because He can put Kryptonite into his belt and then Superman is done.
He did, actually, somewhere, when he fights Supes. Just don't remember what it was in... Either cartoon or comic book, but not sure which one... Plus, he just plain owns.
I believe it was Batman vs Superman, when they classhed due to Luthor's plot with The Joker ( I think, or a rewssurected form, I can't entriely recall). It was the beginning of the devine World's Finest series.