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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: FFchaossource on July 07, 2006, 07:39:39 AM

Title: Final Fantasy: Chaos Source
Post by: FFchaossource on July 07, 2006, 07:39:39 AM
Hmmmm.... I wonder how much I'll get flamed for creating a FUTURISTIC FF Fan game?

Anyway, not much more I can say in this message than you can see .  here (http://www.freewebs.com/ffchaossource)
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on July 07, 2006, 01:51:44 PM
Work on your maps..

And your story...

And don't make a fangame.

'nuff said.
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Post by: Tomi on July 07, 2006, 02:01:51 PM
Not to be mean, but...

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Originally posted by DarkFlood2
Work opn your maps..

And your story...

And don't make a fangame.

'nuff said.


But work on it, and it will improve.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 07, 2006, 05:30:34 PM
Looks like you spent more time on the website then your game.
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Post by: Archem on July 07, 2006, 06:15:06 PM
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Originally posted by DarkFlood2
And don't make a fangame.

'nuff said.

Oh, like I didn't have to talk you out of making that Diablo fan game?
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Post by: Blazingheart on July 08, 2006, 01:00:39 AM
Geez....
ANOTHER FINAL FANTASY FAN GAME???
I bet there are more FF fan games than members in charas,if not...soon there will be...
By the way,there`s already one FF fan game in the future,called "Final Fantasy:Endless Nova",Pretty good game,created with RPG2k2,too bad it was a fan game.
PLEASE,dont make this a fan game.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 08, 2006, 01:59:29 AM
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Originally posted by Archem2
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Originally posted by DarkFlood2
And don't make a fangame.

'nuff said.

Oh, like I didn't have to talk you out of making that Diablo fan game?


Keep your "OMFG WE ARE FRIeNDZ IN REEL LIF HAHAHA- comments" off the forum.
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Post by: FFchaossource on July 08, 2006, 02:37:06 AM
:bend: Okay, I'm gonna pretend to consider your opinion about fan games = bad before I do whatever the hell I want...

Hmmm....  I like my idea better.

On that note I hope people realize that I posted ONE map.

The storyline is brief because I didn't want to overload my site with facts.

And one final thing, going back to the everybody hates fan games, Please take note that the game could be exactly the same except for the title, and it wouldn't be called a fan game.

So if I change the title will everyone be happy? Yes?


I don't care. :smoke:
Title: I respect you...
Post by: PlasticNinja on July 08, 2006, 03:02:35 AM
Well, as much as I agree with the "fangames = pure suckage" philoshophy, I am inclined to respect your pure devotion to your ideals.  With enough work, anything, even a FF Fangame, set in the future no less, can turn out good. Perhaps you can show us all what a fangame should be (I personally don't have high hopes, but who cares). The maps aren't dreadful... I've seen worse... and I know all of you have as well. As a side note, FF Endless Nova was pretty good.

STICK IT TO THE MAN!
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Post by: FFchaossource on July 08, 2006, 03:25:09 AM
My bad, that was an overeaction then. I maintain my opinion that my game isn't really a fan game, just something that's labled as "Final Fantasy". But I've decided to change the name anyway just to keep everyone happy. So visit the site (http://freewebs.com/ffchaossource)  again and see what you think of Chaos Source - The non-fangame set in the future  :frag:  
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Post by: PlasticNinja on July 08, 2006, 03:35:55 AM
I give an inspirational speech and you change the name... oh well. Sometimes you have to go against what you believe for what is best.

I pulled this definition for fangame off Wikipedia:
Fangames are computer and video games made by fans featuring popular based on one or more established video games. Many fangames attempt to clone the original game's design, gameplay and characters, but it is equally common for fans to develop a unique game using another only as a template.

Thus, by merely using the Final Fantasy title, even while creating a completely unique game, it is still a fangame.

By the way... you messed up the second link, it goes to http://charas-project.net/forum/freewebs.com/ffchaossource (aka, not your site... might wanna fix that!)

You're still working with a futuristic sci-fi game though, which is equally hard to make enjoyable. Good luck.

Now that I actually read the info on your site... the story does does only have a little more depth than an average episode of Teletubbies. Which is understandable, since I believe that you are just starting with it. All good things take time huh?
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on July 08, 2006, 04:11:34 AM
The story doesn't seem too bad, but it definately needs some fleshing out.  One thing bugs me though, your grammar.  I've already found too many mistakes on your website alone.  For anything other than chatrooms and IMs, you should use proper english (assuming you use english), with proper grammar.  That's my opinion at least.

Don't say "It's only one map"  Besides that fact that there are two, every map should look nice.  Having excellent maps, then "BAM!! crappy map" is in a way worse then consistent crappiness.  At least then it can be a theme.  I recommend looking in the tutorials section, perhaps read meiscool's map tutorial.
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Post by: FFchaossource on July 08, 2006, 08:04:09 AM
Okay, the maps (though few) and story have been updated.
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Post by: daMoose_Neo on July 08, 2006, 11:08:20 AM
All right, just out of curiosity- if the only tie to Final Fantasy is the name in the title, kind of like Spirits Within, why call it Final Fantasy in the first place? Calling it FF sets up certain expectations, and if its not FF you're free to actually do whatever the hell you want, as you so eloquently put it.

I dunno. Whole "Fan Game" element aside, why call it FF if its not FF? Just make your own game.

*Edit* I'll leave the original post, but accept an apology for missing the actual retraction of FF from the title. Got lost in the scroll.
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Post by: RPG LORD on July 08, 2006, 05:42:09 PM
Must agree on that.
Title: Hey Yall
Post by: aboutasoandthis on July 08, 2006, 08:12:00 PM
I don't get it. When people see the title "Final Fantasy" they freak out. Oh well. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to defend fangames anymore. I didn't get the "Change the name" crap on this site, but I see a lot of others do. To everyone with the FFFangames suck idea, go **** yourselves.

All right, I've looked at the site in detail. You just need to give us more detail. Everything you gave us on the site could make just one paragraph. This is why people are saying work on your storyline. If you don't give away the best part, telling more of your storyline doesn't mean you're spoiling the storylinge. If you can't give us anything else without giving away the best part, you need to rework your storyline.

The map...even if it wasn't designed by ASCII/Enterbrain, the chipset you used is still considered RTP. That is why most here are saying the maps need work. The chipset isn't used that great. I'd say go to Phylomortis.com and get the future chipsets there like Star Ocean and Chrono Trigger, and just change the colors to those.

Now this is a personal question. Do you want as many people as as possible to play your game?

If so, have the name stay as Chaos Source (which isn't that great of a name).

If you don't care, keep the FF. A lot of people skip over FFFangames when they want to download something.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 09, 2006, 02:26:26 AM
Dude, just because your game is a fangame and it's looks decent doesn't mean that fan games arn't wrong. In reality, you can make what you want, but what the people want are original games that don't rip-off a series name. Your game would appeal much more if it didn't have the sony emph on it.
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on July 09, 2006, 03:12:50 AM
You need to work on your mapping (No offense) but it's like a serious wasteland on those screenshots. Put in scenery.