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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 02:22:56 PM

Title: What IS it?
Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 02:22:56 PM

Well, outta boredom....(and the need for blood) I was wondering in your own opinions what do you think god is? Not just the god that's on the green money we love so much..It can be on any god, and about anything that relates to it. I'm just curious to know your views on it, so let the bledshe-- I mean, talking ensue..<.<

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 17, 2006, 02:24:36 PM

God is oooog. And soon to be; oooog is God.

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Post by: Gary on July 17, 2006, 02:26:08 PM

god is a figment of our hopes and dreams. We need something as human beings to lean back on so we aren't so insecure. We can't live with the fact that after we die it's all over. So we create something to live on in the hopes that it may be true. Death is inevitable and after that it's over.

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Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 02:32:11 PM

GO OOOG!!!!

Lol, anyways I like what you said Gar. It had it's own flow, and made sense. :p

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Post by: drenrin2120 on July 17, 2006, 02:40:17 PM

You can say that, but nobody really knows what happens after death. It could be it, nothing more, or there could be something else. Maybe we do all become ghost (though I think it would be crowded). no one really knows. To me, God is something humans have got the wrong idea about. I don't think he casts people into eternal damnation and scorching flames. No, that doesn't make sense. Why would god send his own children to that kinda fate? Whether they were good or evil. No, I think god is more forgiving than that. Hell is a lie made up by the church to gain power. To me, god is real, but I can't tell you WHAT he is. He's something we as humans may never understand.

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Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 02:48:56 PM

Well Dren, let's put it this way...Think of God as a parent..What do parents do when children act up? (Besides locking them in closets, and straving them for a day  :p). They punish them, it would be like what God does. I actually believe in life after death, I dunno...it's just sometimes new events seem familiar. Weird <.<

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 17, 2006, 02:50:50 PM

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He's something we as humans may never understand.

Yeah. She's a mystery that we will most likly never solve.

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Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 02:52:29 PM

I think God's a girl too. I mean, girl's give life...not guys...<.<

Also, adam and eve..they were like the only two people alive. They were like brother and sister I guess, and then their sons came along... how did they have kids? O.O Did they have sex with eve...or sheep? o.O

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 17, 2006, 02:57:38 PM

Those Mother Fuckers!

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Post by: drenrin2120 on July 17, 2006, 02:59:05 PM

Yeah, I could believe that god is a she. Or maybe he OR she has no gender.

I do believe god will punish people for there sins, but ETERNAL scorching flames? That's pretty harsh.

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Post by: Gary on July 17, 2006, 03:01:00 PM

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Those Mother Fuckers!

here here.

Title: My Thoughts.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on July 17, 2006, 03:09:39 PM

Touchy Subject. This is what I have to say.

I believe there is a God, and a Satan, but I believe there are other worlds out there. Nobody seems to mention Purgatory (Spelling) or anything else. Plus, there are other religions out there. I think we do go somewhere else, because we seem to do things different from animals. We have inhibitions. We have a sense of right and wrong.

About the heaven and hell thing, I've met two people in my life that gave me some thoughts on the subject.

I used to have this great uncle. He was a really nice guy. Before he really passed away, he was once legally pronounced dead then brought back to life. He said that while he was dead, he saw a white light. He felt pleasant and happy. At first I didn't think anything of it.

Then I had this good friend of mine. His father wasn't the greatest person in the world. He was from Louisiana. Kind of a racist. He ditched my friend family when he was young. He was abusive. He lives with his mom. He's been pronounced legally dead three times. He's said each time, he say an annoying red light that gave him headaches.

I don't know what any of this means. It could mean heaven and hell, it could mean brain activity slowing down. I don't know.

I grew up with a strange sense of what God is. My family owns a church. I've joined at least 4 other churches. And my mom goes to a different church. I read the bible a lot to. I don't like it when someone uses religion to hurt someone. That to me is evil in it's purest form. You hurt someone else for your own self gain.

I don't know. BTW, I have a little ghost story to. Yes, I DID see a ghost. If you wanna hear about that, give a post.

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That raises the bigger question. How did Cain get married? I believe that God JUST created humans in his own image (The Jews) but he made others first.

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Post by: SonicChaos7 on July 17, 2006, 03:14:47 PM

God is perceived as a male due to the power men had back in the times the Bible was first written. Men were the dominant sex, women were the house people that did nothing but the little homemaking stuff.

Anyway, God is what you believe Him to be. We each can't really dictate what He is because people will argue it because of different perspectives. But as Dren said, He is forgiving and He wouldn't cast us into eternal damnation just because we did some bad things in our lives.

About the parents punishing children thing. Children are punished by their parents (if punished at all) in order to keep them disciplined. Psychology- positive and negative reinforcement.

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Post by: drenrin2120 on July 17, 2006, 03:19:13 PM

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Originally posted by SonicChaos7
God is perceived as a male due to the power men had back in the times the Bible was first written. Men were the dominant sex, women were the house people that did nothing but the little homemaking stuff.

Not entirely true. Before Christianity or catholicism, the female body, especially the womb, was pretty much worshipped.

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Post by: Archem on July 17, 2006, 03:38:46 PM

Like Dren said, we'll know once we die. As for God being male or female, I don't think God has a specific gender, since we're all supposedly made in God's image. If we are truly made in God's likeness, that would either make God a true hemaphrodite (prob'ly not) or a neutral gender. And being an all-powerful holy entity, God wouldn't need sexual organs, thus, no gender.

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Post by: oooog on July 17, 2006, 03:44:15 PM

Who even says god is a humanoid?  Or any specific shape at all?  Perhaps god is a powerful cloud of god dust or something.  Or a shiny kitty.  OR perhaps god dust that can take the forum of ANYTHING.  All that supposibly matters is that god is all powerful  and is wicked awesome at doing stuff.

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Post by: Gary on July 17, 2006, 03:47:06 PM

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Originally posted by oooog
Who even says god is a humanoid?  Or any specific shape at all?  Perhaps god is a powerful cloud of god dust or something.  Or a shiny kitty.  OR perhaps god dust that can take the forum of ANYTHING.  All that supposibly matters is that god is all powerful  and is wicked awesome at doing stuff.

All hail teh shiny kitty XD

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Post by: charaman on July 17, 2006, 03:47:27 PM

I believe we are all part of the same greater spirit and are manifestations of different facets of its personality. So, in a way, we are all, collectively, our own god.


All of this benevolent all-powerful being stuff reeks of wishful thinking to me. People want so much to believe that there is a reason to do good. They don't understand that doing good in and of itself should be the motivation, and the motivation should not be an otherworldly reward.

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Post by: Archem on July 17, 2006, 03:56:18 PM

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Originally posted by oooog
Who even says god is a humanoid?  Or any specific shape at all?

If I remember correctly from that one time I went to church, we're all supposed to be made in God's image. That suggest that God has a humanoid shape. Unless that's all more of the current editions of the Bible's lies.

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Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 04:27:14 PM

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Originally posted by oooog
Who even says god is a humanoid?  Or any specific shape at all?  Perhaps god is a powerful cloud of god dust or something.  Or a shiny kitty.  OR perhaps god dust that can take the forum of ANYTHING.  All that supposibly matters is that god is all powerful  and is wicked awesome at doing stuff.

LOL! Kitty!!

I dunno, I'm not a strong believer in the bible. You know with the man writing stuff part, makes it a bit hard to believe in. I mean, I should read it one day.....................nah. So when cain and his bro had kids, did they have sex with their daughters too? Wouldn't that mean that we're all having incest with each other because we're all related? Despite the fact that our skin and looks may be different? That's weird :S

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Post by: aboutasoandthis on July 17, 2006, 04:38:23 PM

I believe the men made in God's image were the Jews but he made other men first. That's is why Cain, after killing Abel, went to the land of Nod and took a wife.

Also there is a verse that said Cain was afraid of the world because he said "other men will kill me." This is why Cain got the mark of evil for protection.

Come on. Easy Reading.

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Post by: MrMister on July 17, 2006, 04:43:05 PM

Oh convenient. Theories about God that don't involve a giant telescope.
I think God is some ethereal shapeless entity that takes the shape of a man when we see him to prevent our hearts from exploding out of our chests. You see, God is like A Boy and His Blob. Actually it's more like ZIP ZOP ZOOPITY BOP. Well.. I dunno. We'll all find out soon enough. Like, when the Aliens start to overwhelm the last Predator so he activates the bomb.

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Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 04:46:49 PM

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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
I believe the men made in God's image were the Jews but he made other men first. That's is why Cain, after killing Abel, went to the land of Nod and took a wife.

Also there is a verse that said Cain was afraid of the world because he said "other men will kill me." This is why Cain got the mark of evil for protection.

Come on. Easy Reading.

I didn't read everything you said, :p I was on the phone.

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Post by: MrMister on July 17, 2006, 04:52:31 PM

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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis I believe the men made in God's image were the Jews but he made other men first. That's is why Cain, after killing Abel, went to the land of Nod and took a wife. Also there is a verse that said Cain was afraid of the world because he said "other men will kill me." This is why Cain got the mark of evil for protection. Come on. Easy Reading.

I didn't read everything you said, :p I was on the phone.

You are a bitch! Stop spamming! It hurts my eyeballz!1

Anyways, Christianity is the most vague about what God is IMO. Like, the Hindus will tell you that Genesheyganoosh is an elephant wearing a Hawaiin shirt.

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Post by: charaman on July 17, 2006, 04:58:12 PM

Even Christians and Jews don't take Genesis as hostroy, more of a fable-type thing. (personally I think it's all bs, but hey, believe what you want)

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Post by: Shady Ultima on July 17, 2006, 06:15:12 PM

I don't believe that god actually exists. 'God' is actually atoms that make up us all. We are entirely created by atoms - meaning that we are made in his image, and each have a part of god in us. I also believe that Jesus was not so much a prophet, but a early scientist, who discovered cures for disease and things.

And, Evolution tends to be the more accepted belief these days, even many preists no longer claim the story of genesis to be true. According to genesis, there was not a long time before the creation of humans, something that is easily shown to be not true. If you believe Genesis, then you must believe that fossils of dinosaurs and other ancient beings are fake. Genesis was simply intended so that people would stop askin how the world was made when the old testament was written

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Post by: Archem on July 17, 2006, 06:23:41 PM

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'God' is actually atoms that make up us all. We are entirely created by atoms...

Holy Shit! I'm God!!!

Oh, wait... there's more post to read there... Stopped reading at the "...".

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Post by: Tomi on July 17, 2006, 06:25:46 PM

Someone who watches over us all.  Probably created everything  in the beginning.  Cool guy/girl/thing.

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Post by: Bluhman on July 17, 2006, 06:32:37 PM

I'm sure there's something up there, but it ain't god.

Title: Ummm...Huh?
Post by: aboutasoandthis on July 17, 2006, 07:09:09 PM

I believe Genisis, but I'm a strong supporter for evolution...

Your point?

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Post by: oooog on July 17, 2006, 07:28:26 PM

I still stand by my all powerful transforming god dust theory.  I think that could be blended well with charaman's belief.

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Post by: Drace on July 17, 2006, 07:38:39 PM

My points about god are... varried.

For one, god is in you. He's in your hearts and minds and is a guideline to your ways of life. Doesn't matter if someone else set up his believes of god for you, which made your own god that way, or that you made your own rules to live for.

Secondly, I think there is something out there. It might be a god, it might not. What I do know is that it ain't what the religions we currently have say. I don't think it's humanoid either. Why would a god make only one planet with one intelligence species on it? No, if there is a god, there must be more.

Also, like stated before, god is everything. And most things that happen what the current religions deny are just god's plan.

Yes, I believe in something. There is something that started this all, cause we all just want to believe that. But that something is not Allah, or Jehova, or Jesus' dad or any others we have. It is everything, yet nothing around us.

Just my 2 cents.

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Post by: drenrin2120 on July 17, 2006, 09:03:57 PM

Everyone needs to read Angels and Demos, good book, and it has a pretty credible hypothesis for god. Made sense to me, anyway.

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Post by: Razor on July 17, 2006, 09:04:04 PM

I say religion is flawed from the get go. Like how if God is all forgiving, why would Hell exist? And also, if Satan is evil, why does he torture evil people in Hell? Torturing bad people = good in my books. Of course, he'd have to, otherwise people like Hitler and Mr Spacely would be going to Hell and having a wonderful time with Satan celebrating how evil they were, and that wouldn't be justified.

However, I digress. My views of God are exactly how the Simpsons portray him.

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Post by: MrMister on July 17, 2006, 09:35:22 PM

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Everyone needs to read Angels and Demos, good book, and it has a pretty credible hypothesis for god. Made sense to me, anyway.

Everyone HAS read it. You are loser.

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Post by: Blazingheart on July 17, 2006, 09:52:19 PM

Geez...
Beauty topic made by cute girl huh?
Heh,anyway...
I THINK god is what we call to the force that give us hop,that gives us a path to follow,and that gives us strengh for us ot fight for what we most love (Midnight :D heh) and well....I think god mantains our beliefs up and running until they stopp being "beliefs".

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Post by: Grunge0Puppy on July 17, 2006, 10:14:25 PM

I've been trying to figure out for a while now, and what i plan to do to figure out is.

I'm gonna open myself up a flea market
I'm gonna open myself up a flea market
And you're gonna wish that you did
And retire on the profits
First off
I'm gonna empty out all of my Mrs. Butterworth jars
And I'm gonna put 'em on a shelf with my 800 dollar a month tax free Century 21 shop
And then I am going to put my Mrs. Butterworth syrup jars on the shelf
Next to all the commemorative fast food chain glasses and cups I've accumulated over the past 62 years
Then I'm going to get some plywood
I'm going to get some plywood and cut them up into two by two piece squares
Then I'm going to get some burlap and I'm going to cut them into two by two piece squares and then I'm going to put them onto the pieces of plywood
And then I'm going to go to the beach
I'm going to go to the beach and I'm gonna collect some shells and driftwood
And then I'm going to take the shells and driftwood and glue them onto the plywood and burlap
And sell em for lots of money
People will be paying top dollar for my kids new used new toys and clothing
Then maybe someday I can get rid of that pissed stained matress I've been sleeping on..."

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Post by: Razor on July 17, 2006, 10:41:49 PM

What


that made less sense than Lone Wolf on a bad day.

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Post by: Spike21 on July 17, 2006, 10:58:57 PM

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Originally posted by charaman
Even Christians and Jews don't take Genesis as hostroy, more of a fable-type thing. (personally I think it's all bs, but hey, believe what you want)

NOT TRUE! Many sub religions in christian believe that but not all. Mostly catholic.

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Post by: charaman on July 17, 2006, 11:09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Razor
that made less sense than Lone Wolf on a bad day.

Quote of the century.

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Post by: Grunge0Puppy on July 17, 2006, 11:10:31 PM

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What


that made less sense than Lone Wolf on a bad day.

I said I'm gonna open up a flea market.....that's my philosophy.

also

chipset
can
be complete
on 31

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Post by: Spike21 on July 17, 2006, 11:13:20 PM

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Originally posted by Razor What that made less sense than Lone Wolf on a bad day.

I said I'm gonna open up a flea market.....that's my philosophy.

also

chipset
can
be complete
on 31

is just me or is this  *posspam*
... or jiberish or.... something

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Post by: Grunge0Puppy on July 17, 2006, 11:36:57 PM

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Originally posted by Spike21

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Originally posted by Grunge0Puppy quote: Originally posted by Razor What that made less sense than Lone Wolf on a bad day. I said I'm gonna open up a flea market.....that's my philosophy. also chipset can be complete on 31

is just me or is this  *posspam*
... or jiberish or.... something

Lol the second part is me emulating lone Wolf on a bad day lol

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Post by: charaman on July 17, 2006, 11:46:16 PM

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Originally posted by Spike21 quote: Originally posted by Grunge0Puppy quote: Originally posted by Razor What that made less sense than Lone Wolf on a bad day. I said I'm gonna open up a flea market.....that's my philosophy. also chipset can be complete on 31 is just me or is this  *posspam* ... or jiberish or.... something

Lol the second part is me emulating lone Wolf on a bad day lol

That's a good day.

A bad day would be more like

"Chipset
to complete be
31 on you for"
















God is Lonewolf.

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Post by: neb87 on July 17, 2006, 11:51:27 PM

God Doesn't Exist...

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Post by: Cosmos on July 17, 2006, 11:52:19 PM

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Originally posted by Blazingheart
Geez...
Beauty topic made by cute girl huh?
Heh,anyway...
I THINK god is what we call to the force that give us hop,that gives us a path to follow,and that gives us strengh for us ot fight for what we most love (Midnight :D heh) and well....I think god mantains our beliefs up and running until they stopp being "beliefs".

*watches Harvey* <.<;;

I have yet to read the book, my best friend has it. I should borrow it from him.

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Post by: Archem on July 17, 2006, 11:54:11 PM

He's so cryptic!

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Post by: SaiKar on July 17, 2006, 11:57:42 PM

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and that gives us strengh for us ot fight for what we most love (Midnight :D heh)

*beats off the swarms with a rusted shovel* Back! Away from my Midnight! Back you zombies!

 *spamlas*

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Post by: Razor on July 18, 2006, 12:05:36 AM

Well the logic works out

Point of existence = ?
Why the world was created = ?
God = ?
Lonewolf = ?


Lonewolf = God

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Post by: Blazingheart on July 18, 2006, 12:06:12 AM

Geez...I knew this would happen
*Draws out Broadsword"
Saikar...Old pal,guess it is time for a duel!
Nah, its ok,though the shovel hit really hurted T.T,Anyone hug? T.T

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Post by: Cosmos on July 18, 2006, 12:11:28 AM

*huggles Harvey* He's my hero,  :jest:

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Post by: Weregnome on July 18, 2006, 12:12:37 AM

There is no God, and if so you would think that he would look after his people (The Jews) a lil better, considering what Hitler did to them. if he does exist, there is no point in being happy with him onsdiering he just lets humantiy waste itself.

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Post by: Blazingheart on July 18, 2006, 12:15:47 AM

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*huggles Harvey* He's my hero,  :jest:

Err..Who the hell`s Harvey?
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Well,Were,You cant expect god to BABYSIT us,if he let us do wars and all,is for all us to learn form them,butit is your point of view,so it is ok.

-With Geezes,P@co,One of the only guys who speak spanish here (I feel lonely)

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Post by: Lighting Half Dozen on July 18, 2006, 12:21:40 AM

When you close your eyes and wish for somethign really hard, God is what ignores you.

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Post by: Cosmos on July 18, 2006, 12:27:52 AM

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Err..Who the hell`s Harvey?

Sai'Kar, teh Admin dude. *thwacks you for not knowing*

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Post by: Blazingheart on July 18, 2006, 12:38:54 AM

Another punch??
Geez -.-,Not really popular here huh?
Anyway,I really dont mind ppl names if i am not really going to know èm.so  i just get the hellòutta the Nicknames :D
"Please god,no more punches"

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Post by: Kinslayer on July 18, 2006, 12:39:50 AM

What is God? Well, to me God is just God. I can't even imagine how can God be. The way that I sense Him is through feeling love. I think that love is God's manifest in Earth, as hate is the devil's manifest. Both love and hate are the only ideals that don't change in time.

If there is life after death is a question without a real answer, but think about this: What was life worth of, if there is nothing beyond death? Why to love, hate, cry, laugh...? Why to live? Why don't we just kill ourselves and stop everything? No one will care if you kill somebody if there is no judgement after death, why would killing be a bad thing if nothing happens after death? You wouldn't be doing nothing wrong.

I sense God as the meaning of all the good. And a real good being will let us have the chance to live life as we want it. That's why I don't believe in Fate, to me God has given us the chance to live life as we want it. The fact that some people decide to make evil deeds and kill thousands, just shows us how inferior we are.

Besides, us humans are greedy beings. Imagine what would happen if God answered to all of the calls!!!!


"God, I want new sandals" "God, Jamie insulted me, strike him with a lightning" "God, scratch my back"

Why does God allow war and hunger? I think it's best to ask why do WE allow it to happen. God has given us the chance to be free, and we are the ones wasting it.


And someone who's good, will think the best of everyone.

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Post by: Cerebus on July 18, 2006, 12:46:50 AM

Bah, for me, god is nothing. I think it has been invented to explain life... or something like that. I mean... why every religion has a different god? Most people tell me that it's because it's the same god, but they all see it differently... yeah, of course...
For me, there's no god.

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Post by: Emerates on July 18, 2006, 01:27:10 AM

Well, I think about this Shytacosta almost daily, so here's my 2 cents.

God created everything in 7 days.  However, since the Bible never said if it was in  Our days or His, people instantly refuse to look at the missing words due to today's logic.

God has a plan for everything.  My life's been one bad thing to another, with almost no reprieve from pain, so he must either be planning to kill me shortly, or I'm meant for something that requires 16 years of [GLOW]intensive brutal emotion pain[/GLOW] on my part.

There is fate.  However, there is not just one single path.  At every decision, there are between 2 and X amount of paths to take.  What we decide to do ultimately decides how we end up at the end.  We could either destroy one thing after another, or build a small place for humanity to rest its head.

There is an afterlife.  But I don't know anything about it, so that's where this paragraph stops.

Eventually, the two greater powers, God and Satan, and whoever follows the other will be involved in that fight.

Aliens are probably demons sent from another demension where all the Devil's followers go, aka Hell.  But, seems how they're much more advanced than us, they can come here without following the rules of life and death, and we  [SHADOW]can't.
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God allows us to suffer so that we can help each other, rather than him having to fix all our problems.  That's why there's  freedom of choice .  We can damn each other, or give each other solace from ourselves.

And that's about it.

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Post by: MrMister on July 18, 2006, 01:55:54 AM

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Originally posted by Blazingheart Err..Who the hell`s Harvey?

Sai'Kar, teh Admin dude. *thwacks you for not knowing*

Who the hell are you to be thwacking people? You are slowly becoming the biggest noob ever. You spam nonstop. Besides, I've raped you 3 times since you sat down at the computer.

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Post by: Revolution911 on July 18, 2006, 02:01:57 AM

God is whatever we want it to be. Sounds corny but seriously.

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Post by: Spike21 on July 18, 2006, 02:44:43 AM

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There is no God, and if so you would think that he would look after his people (The Jews) a lil better, considering what Hitler did to them. if he does exist, there is no point in being happy with him onsdiering he just lets humantiy waste itself.

that is an invalid staitment

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Post by: Shady Ultima on July 18, 2006, 02:58:38 AM

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God has a plan for everything.  My life's been one bad thing to another, with almost no reprieve from pain, so he must either be planning to kill me shortly, or I'm meant for something that requires 16 years of intensive brutal emotion pain on my part.

I know that feeling...

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Post by: Blazingheart on July 18, 2006, 03:14:32 AM

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Originally posted by Midnight quote: Originally posted by Blazingheart Err..Who the hell`s Harvey? Sai'Kar, teh Admin dude. *thwacks you for not knowing*

Who the hell are you to be thwacking people? You are slowly becoming the biggest noob ever. You spam nonstop. Besides, I've raped you 3 times since you sat down at the computer.

Hye calm down pal,you`re not in position on flaming it,besides,just take as a game,Yup..only a game ^^

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Post by: Razor on July 18, 2006, 03:24:20 AM

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Originally posted by Weregnome There is no God, and if so you would think that he would look after his people (The Jews) a lil better, considering what Hitler did to them. if he does exist, there is no point in being happy with him onsdiering he just lets humantiy waste itself.

that is an invalid staitment

The irony is that that in fact is the invalid statement.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 18, 2006, 04:18:01 AM

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Originally posted by Midnight quote: Originally posted by Blazingheart Err..Who the hell`s Harvey? Sai'Kar, teh Admin dude. *thwacks you for not knowing*

Who the hell are you to be thwacking people? You are slowly becoming the biggest noob ever. You spam nonstop. Besides, I've raped you 3 times since you sat down at the computer.

Dude... this is your best post ever.

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Post by: Archem on July 18, 2006, 04:40:22 AM

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Originally posted by MrMister quote: Originally posted by Midnight quote: Originally posted by Blazingheart Err..Who the hell`s Harvey? Sai'Kar, teh Admin dude. *thwacks you for not knowing* Who the hell are you to be thwacking people? You are slowly becoming the biggest noob ever. You spam nonstop. Besides, I've raped you 3 times since you sat down at the computer.

Dude... this is your best post ever.

You ****-tucking liar! His best post ever has clearly yet to come! And another thing: You disgust me with your vernacular!

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Post by: Drace on July 18, 2006, 08:44:23 AM

Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that.

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Post by: MrMister on July 18, 2006, 04:49:08 PM

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Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that.

God isn't a bastard because he gave us free will, assdick. We wouldn't be able to hurt our loved ones with drugs and alcohol and adolescent nymphomania if we didn't have free will, and that's not a life I want to live!

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Post by: charaman on July 18, 2006, 05:35:09 PM

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adolescent nymphomania!

Smells like children! and Charlie Sheen!

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Post by: Cosmos on July 18, 2006, 05:36:16 PM

 

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Why does God allow war and hunger? I think it's best to ask why do WE allow it to happen. God has given us the chance to be free, and we are the ones wasting it.

Prolly cause most of us don't give a damn. It's like, people feel there is no point in doing anything so they put their faith in god or the government. It's just laziness and greed that causes that. Give a person the right push and a war is started, meh.

Mrmister, shut up. Thank you.

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Post by: drenrin2120 on July 18, 2006, 06:16:52 PM

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Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that.

People kill people. People bring diseases. People are the plague on Earth. Seriously, think about it. If people weren't around, would there be global warming? Mass compilations of 3rd world countries dying of AIDs and other human-born diseases? Pollution? Unnatural extinctions? F*ck no.

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Post by: Drace on July 18, 2006, 06:27:58 PM

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Originally posted by Drace Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that.

People kill people. People bring diseases. People are the plague on Earth. Seriously, think about it. If people weren't around, would there be global warming? Mass compilations of 3rd world countries dying of AIDs and other human-born diseases? Pollution? Unnatural extinctions? F*ck no.

Exactly.

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Post by: WarxePB on July 18, 2006, 07:16:53 PM

You can't deny that there's a God, because you've never seen Him/Her/It yourself.
Of course, by the same token, you can't prove that there is a God. You can't say Yes, but you can't say No either. Just something to remember before you say "There is no God".

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 18, 2006, 08:23:53 PM

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Originally posted by Drace Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that.

People kill people. People bring diseases. People are the plague on Earth. Seriously, think about it. If people weren't around, would there be global warming? Mass compilations of 3rd world countries dying of AIDs and other human-born diseases? Pollution? Unnatural extinctions? F*ck no.

That's like saying: If intellegence wasn't around, then the world would be a better place.

That might be a true statement, but it's also a dull and boring one as well. Life, without problems, is worthless.

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Post by: Archem on July 18, 2006, 09:28:19 PM

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Originally posted by drenrin2120 quote: Originally posted by Drace Supposidly to the Christians, God kicked Adam and Eve out of paradise or whatever it's called. Well they're right, not the story of Adam of Eve though, but he kicked us out. He doesn't care how we live of our lives, he wants us to be independant. If he didn't wanted that, there would be no wars, no diseases, no pain at all. But God is a bastard and we should all see that. People kill people. People bring diseases. People are the plague on Earth. Seriously, think about it. If people weren't around, would there be global warming? Mass compilations of 3rd world countries dying of AIDs and other human-born diseases? Pollution? Unnatural extinctions? F*ck no.

That's like saying: If intellegence wasn't around, then the world would be a better place.

That might be a true statement, but it's also a dull and boring one as well. Life, without problems, is worthless.

In other word, to each risk, its own reward.

Reward: The end result of any action, mostly positive.

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Post by: Razor on July 18, 2006, 11:19:38 PM

That's a nice one Warxe. But I prefer the argument of "there is no God, prove that he exists."


Or, you could go by Friedrich Nietzsche's famous statement, and say that God is dead. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead)

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God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it?

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Post by: charaman on July 19, 2006, 02:34:02 AM

I've always thought Nietzsche's concept was an interesting one; that humanity has become so jaded and distanced itself from God so much that It no longer can play a part in our lives. It happened through the secularization of religious affairs, such as the heirarchy of the Roman Catholic Church warping the message of a great philosopher. It happened in the blatant hipocrisy of the Jewish faith leaders before them. religion has lost its purpose in mortal hands, killing God's effect in our world.

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Post by: EXO Muffin on July 25, 2006, 04:22:57 AM

What I think is this:

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Space-time is being compressed.
Space-time folds in on it self and the Big Bang happens.
Cool down.
Radiation cause mutagens, that alter matter into new matter.
Matter mutates into microorganisms and etcetera.
Microorganisms mutate and start evolving.
Evolution.
Something evolves into a human. Oh noes!
Humans get smarter.
Humans create religion.
^--Humans make up things that happen in death, because their      knowledge brings them fear, fear of being nothing when you die. They  were too smart. This disrupted the celestial being of reality, and because they thought of gods, their now were. Intelligence being their own downfall. As a quote...

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            Ignorance is bliss and wisdom is folly.

And in my personal religious opinions, here's a timeline of what will probably happen when I die:
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Soul manifests into a ghost.
Ghost is called by higher-ranked ghosts into an afterlife, in which good deeds get better on the class, (like, hotels with first class, second class, etc.)and bad deeds will get worse.

After a long time, depending on my astrological sign, I'll get reincarnated into someone with the same.
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I actually don't like rules of most religions, so I make a conglomerate.(A mixture or fusion)

Sorry if I kicked the topic, but you know...kick-kick can you kick the can-can? If you can then I can, can-can, want to kick the can-can? Can can can can can.....

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Post by: Cosmos on July 25, 2006, 04:44:19 PM

Omg..Just stop the can can thing... Jesus friggin crist..*goes off muttering*

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Post by: Emerates on July 25, 2006, 10:43:13 PM

Think about this, though.....

The universe runs too perfectly to be just an accident.  I mean, gravity keeps us grounded, and keeps the Earth from falling apart into a giant dust ball.  Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.  Atoms come together, make bigger molecules, and eventually become objects or fluids.  Fluids flow between objects, without destroying all the other particles.  Planets revolve around the sun without plummeting into it.  Moons do the same with the planets they're attached to.  And everything eventually dies.  All those particles break apart and join up with the surrounding environment, thus repeating the cycle over and over again.

To me, that sounds a bit complex for a bunch of matter and energy spontaneously erupting.  When an atom bomb goes off, does it make things come together to make new things?  Or does it just destroy everything in its blast radius?  And if the Big Bang theory is correct, where did all the matter and stuff come from?  If people suggest that it was just always there, then they may need to rethink their hypothesis before they say they've got the answers to the universe.

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Post by: Tomi on July 25, 2006, 10:59:49 PM

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Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.

Err, yes they do. Unless you worded that wrong.  Either way, it supports your point.

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Post by: charaman on July 25, 2006, 11:07:05 PM

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Think about this, though.....

The universe runs too perfectly to be just an accident.  I mean, gravity keeps us grounded, and keeps the Earth from falling apart into a giant dust ball.  Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.  Atoms come together, make bigger molecules, and eventually become objects or fluids.  Fluids flow between objects, without destroying all the other particles.  Planets revolve around the sun without plummeting into it.  Moons do the same with the planets they're attached to.  And everything eventually dies.  All those particles break apart and join up with the surrounding environment, thus repeating the cycle over and over again.

To me, that sounds a bit complex for a bunch of matter and energy spontaneously erupting.  When an atom bomb goes off, does it make things come together to make new things?  Or does it just destroy everything in its blast radius?  And if the Big Bang theory is correct, where did all the matter and stuff come from?  If people suggest that it was just always there, then they may need to rethink their hypothesis before they say they've got the answers to the universe.

Thats the medieval attitude. If you don't understand it, attach a supernatural signifigance to it. I'm not saying I disagree or agree, I'm just saying your logic is really not logic at all.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on July 25, 2006, 11:46:47 PM

Emerates's Logic < Duh.

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Post by: EXO Muffin on July 26, 2006, 02:13:13 AM

Well, yeah. Those are pretty weird questions, and I don't really have answers, but, I mean...that's why so many people want to know the meaning of life. I guess I don't, though, because that knowledge would not be comprehendable, and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Best to wonder than to know everything, because that just makes life pretty freakin' boring. :p

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Post by: charaman on July 26, 2006, 02:17:55 AM

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Well, yeah. Those are pretty weird questions, and I don't really have answers, but, I mean...that's why so many people want to know the meaning of life. I guess I don't, though, because that knowledge would not be comprehendable, and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Best to wonder than to know everything, because that just makes life pretty freakin' boring. :p

You should see the movie Pi.

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Post by: MrMister on July 26, 2006, 02:29:07 AM

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Originally posted by EXO Muffin Well, yeah. Those are pretty weird questions, and I don't really have answers, but, I mean...that's why so many people want to know the meaning of life. I guess I don't, though, because that knowledge would not be comprehendable, and I wouldn't be able to handle it. Best to wonder than to know everything, because that just makes life pretty freakin' boring. :p

You should see the movie Pi.

Pi was great, but watch Primer. That'll **** you up with out the.. boringness. Pi had a really great ending though.. argh, thinking about Pi has given me a headache.. which means I'll have to try an old family remedy! POWDERED BABIES!

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Post by: MrMister on July 26, 2006, 02:42:07 AM

DELETE POST PLX RIGHT NOW.
That is LAME of you, and you totally didn't get that film. He was trying to find the true name of God, you dickfuck.

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Post by: Emerates on July 26, 2006, 02:43:53 AM

According to science, matter does not just spontaneously appear.  Therefore, I see it as there had to be something or someone to make all that matter and energy in the beginning anyways.  That's just my perspective on things.

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Post by: EXO Muffin on July 26, 2006, 03:11:07 AM

You didn't have to be that harsh, but, you're right. I didn't get it at all. Sorry if I incorrectly stated things. (I remember that he was trying to find the name of God,now,thanks for helping me remember, but it was contexted in a way that's hard to decifer,at least for me.) I don't remember too well, and I might have been watching a different movie. The movie doesn't really tell you what's going on. Something about forbidden knowledge and a 214-decimal sequence was involved. If I got the ending wrong, then, yeah. It's the wrong movie.


Also, if it's about the meaning of life and God, then why is it called,"Pi?" Is it because knowing Pi is to know the name of God? Maybe it's comparing the unknown knowledge of the name of God with the infinity of Pi. Hmm...time to drill into my head, now!

EDIT!:I know now, I didn't pay attention that much,but thanks to my good friend, Wikipedia, I know.

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Post by: drenrin2120 on July 26, 2006, 03:20:44 AM

According to this book I once read. It theorized that matter and Anti-matter could be made by accelerating matter or anti-matter into extreme velocities. By doing so, somehow the opposite would be made. I forget the specifics on how it worked, but it made sense when I read it. ANYWAY. It combined science and religion by saying maybe god made matter through this process of excelerating matter. Thus, the big bang. It suggested that god made the big bang happen, and knew exactly what he was doing when he did it. Think about it, if god DID make the universe and everything, don't you think he'd understand more perfectly than any scientist on Earth how matter workd, how electrons and protons work and all that crap. Maybe god is like a big scientist, his plans are just unclear. That makes sense to me.

BTW, the book was called Angels and Demons by Dan Brown. Good book.

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Post by: EXO Muffin on July 26, 2006, 03:34:04 AM

That makes sense, Drenrin! I guess that God did make the Big Bang happen, and at the same time...he is the Big Bang. Like he was a non-humanoid force that made it explode...just to see what would happen!:p And when he did explode, Oooog's 'God Dust' made the clutter that was around to assemble planets. Note that I think this, Big Bang God, is not really the same as Christian, Catholic, Jewish, and etcetera God. Or we'd be living on a God Dust-created Earth...like in that Gaiaism thing. Spooky! On Drenrin's topic of:
(Antimatter=A, Matter=M,Light=C,T=Time)
 A(CT)=M
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M(CT)=A,
I'd find it impossible, or very difficult to accelerate antimatter. I guess I'll have to read up on it some more. Also, here's something I need opinions on: In theory that portals can exist, if

Portal A is in Location A, and leads to Location B,
while Portal B in Location A, leads to Location C,
then what would happen if Portal A touched Portal B?

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Post by: MrMister on July 26, 2006, 03:47:22 AM

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Portal A is in Location A, and leads to Location B,
while Portal B in Location C, leads to Location D,
then what would happen if Portal A touched Portal B?

They're in different locations you goon.

Also, God making the big bang happen makes more sense than NOTHING making it happen.

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Post by: Razor on July 26, 2006, 05:08:16 AM

God still doesn't make sense to me.
How can someone exist before time?
How can time have just started one day?

In order for time to make sense, it needs to have never begun, but always existed. And that doesn't make sense at all!

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on July 26, 2006, 05:48:18 AM

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Originally posted by EXO Muffin Portal A is in Location A, and leads to Location B, while Portal B in Location C, leads to Location D, then what would happen if Portal A touched Portal B?

They're in different locations you goon.

Also, God making the big bang happen makes more sense than NOTHING making it happen.

Word, oddly you think like me on that theory.

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Post by: Drace on July 26, 2006, 06:02:42 AM

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Think about this, though.....

The universe runs too perfectly to be just an accident.  I mean, gravity keeps us grounded, and keeps the Earth from falling apart into a giant dust ball.  Electrons revolve a nucleus, but never collide.  Atoms come together, make bigger molecules, and eventually become objects or fluids.  Fluids flow between objects, without destroying all the other particles.  Planets revolve around the sun without plummeting into it.  Moons do the same with the planets they're attached to.  And everything eventually dies.  All those particles break apart and join up with the surrounding environment, thus repeating the cycle over and over again.

To me, that sounds a bit complex for a bunch of matter and energy spontaneously erupting.  When an atom bomb goes off, does it make things come together to make new things?  Or does it just destroy everything in its blast radius?  And if the Big Bang theory is correct, where did all the matter and stuff come from?  If people suggest that it was just always there, then they may need to rethink their hypothesis before they say they've got the answers to the universe.

You can accept a god that came from nowhere but you can't accept the matter that came from nothing for the Big Bang?

Also, I agree with Meiscool about your post. You don't understand it so it must be a god. Like the ancient Egyptians, they didn't knew why the sun came up and down so they said it was a giant beetles pushing it around each day. A giant beetle they couldn't see >.<

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on July 26, 2006, 07:20:07 AM

I used to have a very clear idea on what I believed. Two main things I believed were that

1) Matter can't be created from nothing
2) Infinity is impossible

It took a few years for my tiny brain to realise that according to my logic, the universe shouldn't exist. Thus, I'm not open to suggestions.

HOWEVER, I truly don't believe in any religion. They're like an ancient law system used to stop people from committing crimes. Believing blindly in a religion is like saying Power rangers created the universe using atomic *** zords with a little help from Jackie Chan, just because everyone else thinks the same.

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Post by: WarxePB on July 26, 2006, 06:22:10 PM

According to the theory of evolution, molecules bound together to form DNA, which formed the first single-celled organisms, and so on. Why couldn't that happen with the universe? There was nothing, or maybe some type of matter/energy that we don't know exists yet, that got enough things right to turn into the matter and energy that we're familiar with. Of course, we can say "Well, you can't make matter out of nothing", but that's just our understanding of science. Who says that it's not possible in the real world?

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Post by: Shady Ultima on July 26, 2006, 06:51:11 PM

I like how everyone completely disregarded my theory :(

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Post by: Cosmos on July 26, 2006, 09:30:40 PM

Don't cha just love life, Shady?

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on July 26, 2006, 09:33:00 PM

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I like how everyone completely disregarded my theory :(

You are seeing people around here =P

They pretty much dun care what theory you give them xD