Post by: karlc on August 11, 2006, 10:26:38 PM
who would win in a fight
who do you like better
Post by: Tomi on August 11, 2006, 11:31:18 PM
Post by: Bluhman on August 11, 2006, 11:59:20 PM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on August 12, 2006, 12:26:50 AM
Post by: SaiKar on August 12, 2006, 12:30:46 AM
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or the Wanderer from Shadow of the Colossus (my entire family thought he was a she)
You too, huh? I was almost certain it was a girl until I saw him carrying a girl. Ah well.
Post by: Archem on August 12, 2006, 01:02:02 AM
Now take your *posspam* and leave.
Post by: Ace of Spades on August 12, 2006, 01:45:18 AM
Post by: Linkizcool on August 12, 2006, 02:00:19 AM
Who do I like better? Give you three guesses and the first two don't count.
Post by: Drace on August 12, 2006, 04:48:34 AM
Post by: Linkforce on August 12, 2006, 05:03:57 AM
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 12, 2006, 05:38:32 AM
Post by: Raen Ryong on August 12, 2006, 06:10:02 AM
Plus, he appears in Advent Children and kicks serious *** there. Come on, any of Link's moves can't compare to the legendary Omnislash of doom. First time going through the game, my jaw practically dropped to the floor in that final "battle" with Sephy when he unleashes it... I was used to single hits, two or three at most. Roughly 13 x 5000-9999? Amazing.
So yes, Cloud. :)
Post by: Razor on August 12, 2006, 06:13:23 AM
If it was just a plain sword fight, I'd have to think Link has more skills in that department.
But if it was an all-out battle, no holds bar, then probably Cloud. I mean seriously, what does Link have? Bow, some fire magics maybe, but Cloud, he's got freakin' Bahamut.
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 12, 2006, 08:16:48 AM
Liek time tr@vlin pwnsxzorz j00! I mean, seriously, since Link has the OoT, he could just stop Sephiroth's Meteor summoning, and blow it up with bombs. Why is it that battle mechanics don't apply to cut scenes? I mean, a WM in FF coulda just cast Stop on the meteor. He could do the same to Bahamut, and just use the Command Melody from Wind Waker to mind-control Bahamut into eating Cloud.
Post by: Cosmos on August 12, 2006, 02:46:01 PM
Post by: karlc on August 12, 2006, 02:51:50 PM
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 12, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
NAVI!!!
She'd annoy Cloud so much, that he'd commit suicide.
Post by: Cosmos on August 12, 2006, 03:29:49 PM
Post by: Tomi on August 12, 2006, 03:30:04 PM
Post by: Drace on August 12, 2006, 10:58:37 PM
Post by: Cosmos on August 13, 2006, 03:07:48 AM
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Solid Snake would STILL kick both their asses.
Agree'd. Plus he's hawt.
Post by: Drace on August 13, 2006, 08:28:42 AM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 13, 2006, 09:00:19 AM
Post by: Cosmos on August 13, 2006, 03:28:07 PM
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Hell yes he's hawt. The only man I'd make love to.
*saves this for future blackmail* >:
Post by: Archem on August 13, 2006, 04:11:05 PM
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In a real fight, Link. No way in HELL cloud could lift that sword to fight. He has stickly arms! STICKLY! Hed try to attack, and BAM right in the kisser. Link would pull an OoT Ganon finisher.
Tell it, brother!
Two words from a Smash Bros. fan: Down Thrust.
Fuckin' pwn ya!
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on August 13, 2006, 05:49:37 PM
I'd preobably say Link because... BECAUSE!
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 14, 2006, 06:22:48 AM
Post by: Drace on August 14, 2006, 06:41:55 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Drace
Hell yes he's hawt. The only man I'd make love to.
*saves this for future blackmail* >:
Oh you do that. I don't mind. You can't get at me like that Mid. : D
You have to lower yourself to my level! *hugs Mid* GIEF KISS!
Post by: Lemster on August 14, 2006, 04:03:46 PM
Now Link from ALttP.. :frag: Cloud anyday!
Post by: Revolution911 on August 14, 2006, 04:25:46 PM
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Hell yes he's hawt. The only man I'd make love to.
http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/06/29/imageac115333-1a31-4013-9072-7468522d424c.jpg
Really Drace? REALLY? ;)
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 14, 2006, 04:41:25 PM
On the subject of Link, and such: why are the gold items in video games so great and cheap? In real life, gold is soft, heavy, and valuable. Maybe it's just painted FFFB1A6E or something.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 14, 2006, 04:43:13 PM
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Rev...that's a bit revealing of hypocracy. Because you must've thought he was attractive to get him a standard for Drace.
On the subject of Link, and such: why are the gold items in video games so great and cheap? In real life, gold is soft, heavy, and valuable. Maybe it's just painted FFFB1A6E or something.
Unless it was like the gilded sword from Majoras Mask and was made with spcial Goron gold powder folded into the steel.
Post by: Revolution911 on August 14, 2006, 05:07:36 PM
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Rev...that's a bit revealing of hypocracy. Because you must've thought he was attractive to get him a standard for Drace.
On the subject of Link, and such: why are the gold items in video games so great and cheap? In real life, gold is soft, heavy, and valuable. Maybe it's just painted FFFB1A6E or something.
You have like, absolutely no humor nerve, do you.
And BTW, Cloud FTW.
Post by: DragonBlaze on August 14, 2006, 07:18:58 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 14, 2006, 07:41:48 PM
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Cloud, easily. Link is just way too slow..
Cloud would be the slow one. Perhaps Clouds world has a lower gravity, hence he can lift such a large sword, but in Hyrule, Link would clearly be able to kill a man who could not pick up his sword. If they fought in Clouds world though, Link would not only be faster as well, but if Cloud decided to summon or what not, he could activate the Magic Armor and kick Clouds ***.
Post by: Bill3000 on August 14, 2006, 09:38:15 PM
Post by: Apex on August 14, 2006, 09:41:47 PM
I guess we have to find a way to convert hp to hearts to know who has more health...
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 14, 2006, 11:57:22 PM
Cloud's Ultima Sword adds 75 to str.
I think the stats speak for themselves.
Post by: Linkizcool on August 15, 2006, 12:38:24 AM
Post by: Razor on August 15, 2006, 04:32:08 AM
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This thread's title says which one is better, not one that would win in a fight. And Link is clearly better. Cloud is overrated.
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questions
who would win in a fight
who do you like better
The threads title says nothing.
That said though, I think Cloud would win in a fight. But Link is clearly better.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 15, 2006, 04:40:00 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000
This thread's title says which one is better, not one that would win in a fight. And Link is clearly better. Cloud is overrated.
quote: Originally posted by karlc
questions
who would win in a fight
who do you like better
The threads title says nothing.
That said though, I think Cloud would win in a fight. But Link is clearly better.
+1 for Razor.
Post by: Drace on August 15, 2006, 06:11:39 AM
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 15, 2006, 07:48:16 AM
Post by: Razor on August 15, 2006, 11:10:08 AM
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 15, 2006, 01:57:37 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 15, 2006, 03:33:22 PM
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 15, 2006, 03:50:53 PM
Post by: karlc on August 15, 2006, 09:49:05 PM
and who are fans of legend of zelda
i dont own any legend of zelda games just know him becuase of super smash bros.
but i do own ff7, ff8, ff9, ffx, fft(ps) ffx-2 fft(gba) ffcc kingdom hearts
and more games of square
so im thinking cloud is better and would win in a fight but in game faqs best series ever contest it was legend of zelda against final fantasy
final fantasy lost by 1-2%
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 15, 2006, 09:58:28 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 15, 2006, 10:19:31 PM
SquareEnix= FF, Dragon Warrior
Nintendo= Zelda, Mario, maybe Pokemon
Post by: Revolution911 on August 15, 2006, 11:52:49 PM
And Johnny Depp looks NOTHING like Chuck Norris.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 15, 2006, 11:54:57 PM
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You all lose. Capcom won.
The man has a point. MegaMan would win. Perhaps you're thinking of SF, but MM pwns.
Post by: Revolution911 on August 15, 2006, 11:59:52 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 16, 2006, 01:13:30 AM
Post by: WarxePB on August 16, 2006, 01:43:02 AM
Post by: Archem on August 16, 2006, 02:05:34 AM
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If there were an actual battle, whoever struck the first blow would win. If Cloud had the chance to cast Stop or something on Link, he'd win. But if Link used Deku Nuts or the Boomerang or a similar stunning weapon, Link would have the upper hand. After that, Link would have to survive Cloud's magic (bring plenty of fairies and Nayru's Love/Magic Armor), but if he did, and Cloud had no more MP left, Link would whoop Cloud in sword-to-sword action.
Best response in this shitty thread.
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 16, 2006, 04:12:19 AM
But he'd run out of ammo; eventually. Cloud could just slice the bullets with his mad s0rd skillz! And Link could blow them away with the Deku Leaf. And with Mega Man; Link uses the Mirror Shield. Cloud uses...I don't know.
Oh, and about the,"FF is the only thing Square has to it's name," thing; two words:
CHRONO TRIGGER.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 16, 2006, 04:18:57 AM
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Leon's just a tough guy with a gun. Or two. Or seventeen.
But he'd run out of ammo; eventually. Cloud could just slice the bullets with his mad s0rd skillz! And Link could blow them away with the Deku Leaf. And with Mega Man; Link uses the Mirror Shield. Cloud uses...I don't know.
Oh, and about the,"FF is the only thing Square has to it's name," thing; two words:
CHRONO TRIGGER.
Because as everyone knows CT is still a steady source of major income for Square.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 16, 2006, 01:59:06 PM
Nintedo is completly reliant on ports and classics remade.
Post by: karlc on August 16, 2006, 04:37:16 PM
megaman
beat resident resident evil 4(GC)
and currently playing monster hunter
Devil may cry is also a good game
i own alot of capcoms games but i own more ff games
hey Mic are u a ff fan
Leons just human and against MM's worlds, hyrule, and FF worlds
he wont last. infinite launcher, hand connon(50 calibur magnum), Machine gun, tmps, grenades, rifle, shotguns, and enhanced pistols and weapons might help but against magic and 20xx technology they are like toy guns.
Post by: Linkizcool on August 16, 2006, 04:40:19 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911
You all lose. Capcom won.
Capcom helped make the GameBoy Zeldas
Post by: Cerebus on August 16, 2006, 04:56:48 PM
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Capcom is a major source of income with games like MGS and the like.
By MGS, I guess you mean Metal Gear Solid... if not, well, I don't know what else it could be... but Metal Gear is Konami, not Capcom.
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Capcom helped make the GameBoy Zeldas
Only Oracle of Age and Season... I think... don't remember for Four Sword and Minish Cap... but Link's Awakening isn't Capcom's.
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 16, 2006, 04:57:08 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Revolution911
You all lose. Capcom won.
Capcom helped make the GameBoy Zeldas
yep. I think i read somewhere that capmcom is more friendly with nintendo than sony, or microsoft.
Also sega and nintendo are practically brothers.
But yes, MMX > j00
Namco is good too. KOS-MOS <3
Post by: EXO Muffin on August 16, 2006, 05:16:40 PM
Post by: karlc on August 16, 2006, 05:19:22 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 16, 2006, 05:31:26 PM
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 16, 2006, 05:34:07 PM
Post by: Drace on August 17, 2006, 04:36:49 AM
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Yeah, Konami was what I ment. They all sound the same.
You ignorant fool! Don't ever dare to insult Metal Gear Solid like that again or I'll ****ing kill you by chocking your 10 times, thus breaking your neck and then I'll throw you somewhere into the water.
Post by: Cerebus on August 17, 2006, 08:25:49 AM
Post by: Drace on August 17, 2006, 08:57:13 AM
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Bah... Metal Gear Solid isn't that great... actually, I don't really like it...
Shut up you ignorant French-Canadian Nazi wannabee. I bet you don't like it because the story is to heavy for you. Go play mindless storyless games you retard! Go play Super Mario Bros. or something and don't come near Metal Gear Solid EVER AGAIN!
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 17, 2006, 01:59:49 PM
EDIT: Cloud and Link should make babies.
Post by: karlc on August 17, 2006, 02:44:20 PM
same with link and zelda
yeah and metal gear for ps was fun but it became stupid as snake became a grandpa
Post by: Drace on August 17, 2006, 03:29:51 PM
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Originally posted by karlc
i think cloud and tifa should make babies
same with link and zelda
yeah and metal gear for ps was fun but it became stupid as snake became a grandpa
Now if you payed attention to the games and news on MGS4, you would've know why.
As you know (if not, your brain is to retarded to play any MGS ever again) Solid Snake, along with Liquid Snake, are clones of Big Boss.
But, they aren't perfect. True, they look like the perfect fighting machines and soldiers, but they have a lot of flaws. One for Snake being rapid age. The cells of his body have a rapid aging producere, thus making him old in the fourth MGS game.
Also, you should remind that Snake was around BEFORE MGS1, since the "Les Enfants Terribles" project from 1972. Seeing as MGS1 takes place in 2005 and MGS2 in 2007 and 2009 (2007 being the Tanker episode; 2009 being the Big Shell episode), this makes Solid Snake 37 á 38 at the end of MGS2. Seeing as MGS4 will take place further in the future (In my opinion, probably somewhere around 2015, making Snake 43 á 44) and with the rapid aging, it seems plausible for me.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 17, 2006, 05:13:05 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by karlc
i think cloud and tifa should make babies
same with link and zelda
yeah and metal gear for ps was fun but it became stupid as snake became a grandpa
Now if you payed attention to the games and news on MGS4, you would've know why.
As you know (if not, your brain is to retarded to play any MGS ever again) Solid Snake, along with Liquid Snake, are clones of Big Boss.
But, they aren't perfect. True, they look like the perfect fighting machines and soldiers, but they have a lot of flaws. One for Snake being rapid age. The cells of his body have a rapid aging producere, thus making him old in the fourth MGS game.
Also, you should remind that Snake was around BEFORE MGS1, since the "Les Enfants Terribles" project from 1972. Seeing as MGS1 takes place in 2005 and MGS2 in 2007 and 2009 (2007 being the Tanker episode; 2009 being the Big Shell episode), this makes Solid Snake 37 á 38 at the end of MGS2. Seeing as MGS4 will take place further in the future (In my opinion, probably somewhere around 2015, making Snake 43 á 44) and with the rapid aging, it seems plausible for me.
Listen to the man. Drace, write a damned book on the games. I'm too lazy t buy a PS2 and play em.
Post by: Apex on August 17, 2006, 05:41:12 PM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Cloud and Link should make babies.
Best swordsman in the land.
And hey, you're all forgetting about Square-enix's other great series...
STAR OCEAN
Post by: karlc on August 17, 2006, 06:38:40 PM
FM
Dquest
Kingdom hearts
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 17, 2006, 07:12:24 PM
Post by: Razor on August 17, 2006, 07:47:01 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by karlc
i think cloud and tifa should make babies
same with link and zelda
yeah and metal gear for ps was fun but it became stupid as snake became a grandpa
Now if you payed attention to the games and news on MGS4, you would've know why.
As you know (if not, your brain is to retarded to play any MGS ever again) Solid Snake, along with Liquid Snake, are clones of Big Boss.
But, they aren't perfect. True, they look like the perfect fighting machines and soldiers, but they have a lot of flaws. One for Snake being rapid age. The cells of his body have a rapid aging producere, thus making him old in the fourth MGS game.
Also, you should remind that Snake was around BEFORE MGS1, since the "Les Enfants Terribles" project from 1972. Seeing as MGS1 takes place in 2005 and MGS2 in 2007 and 2009 (2007 being the Tanker episode; 2009 being the Big Shell episode), this makes Solid Snake 37 á 38 at the end of MGS2. Seeing as MGS4 will take place further in the future (In my opinion, probably somewhere around 2015, making Snake 43 á 44) and with the rapid aging, it seems plausible for me.
You're an awesome machine for knowing that much.
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FM? Dragon Quest was Enix, not Square. That means its not Squares best, but Enix's best with the royalties and copyrights under SquareEinx. As for KH, its popular, but it was a money game. They could have easily made that game without FF characters and had it be just as serious, but they knew Disney only wouldn't sell, so they whored of FF chars to get the money.
I can agree with this.
Post by: Cerebus on August 17, 2006, 07:53:53 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
Shut up you ignorant French-Canadian Nazi wannabee. I bet you don't like it because the story is to heavy for you. Go play mindless storyless games you retard! Go play Super Mario Bros. or something and don't come near Metal Gear Solid EVER AGAIN!
First, Hindenburg isn't Nazi. Second, the reason I don't like it is because it isn't the kind of game I like to play, not because of the story. Actually, story isn't always important for me. Some games' story sucks, but are still fun to play. For exemple, Link's awakening's story isn't that great... it actually sucks, in my opinion... ( for those who don't know, you're in a dream and your goal is to wake up by bringing 8 instrument to awake the Wind Fish ) but I still like it. And, some games has great storyline, but isn't fun to play at all... Yes, MGS is a good game, probably has a good storylin, just not the kind of game I like.
Anyways...
Post by: Apex on August 17, 2006, 08:18:27 PM
Fayt would win in a fight against Cloud and Link.
Claude on the other hand... Would get his whiney little behind kicked.
Post by: Prpl_Mage on August 17, 2006, 08:41:16 PM
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Where's the love for StarOcean... I can't be the only fan here...
Fayt would win in a fight against Cloud and Link.
Claude on the other hand... Would get his whiney little behind kicked.
I seriusly doubt that Fayt, a 19 year old game geek can defeat a Jenova-cloned soldier or the hero of time/wind whatever.
(Kind of spoiling but Fayt is kind of weerd after that little incident but I still doubt it)
But of course it all depends on what games you are talking about...
There are sooo many LoZ games and the only conected ones(that I can think of for the monent) is Ocarina of time and majoras mask and Oracle of seasons and Oracle of Time so there are many different Links.(Oh and Super Smash too)
And Clouds fighting is not that good in FF7, kinda stiff... And stuff.
But in KH he is alot of cooler but still not that great, since KHII hasn´t been released here I don´t know what he is like there.
And I havn´t seen him in FFT, but in Squares cute little movie Advent Children where Cloud got 6 swords that he combine...Yeah it´s like a Matrix/DragonBall/or whatever animee. Pretty much über if I may say so myself.
So if you decide to have a battle between AC Cloud and any young Link on our Earth then I´d say that Cloud would win... Just pointing it out.
But ZKX would woop their asses!
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 17, 2006, 08:49:27 PM
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Originally posted by Prpl_Mage
quote: Originally posted by Apex
Where's the love for StarOcean... I can't be the only fan here...
Fayt would win in a fight against Cloud and Link.
Claude on the other hand... Would get his whiney little behind kicked.
I seriusly doubt that Fayt, a 19 year old game geek can defeat a Jenova-cloned soldier or the hero of time/wind whatever.
(Kind of spoiling but Fayt is kind of weerd after that little incident but I still doubt it)
But of course it all depends on what games you are talking about...
There are sooo many LoZ games and the only conected ones(that I can think of for the monent) is Ocarina of time and majoras mask and Oracle of seasons and Oracle of Time so there are many different Links.(Oh and Super Smash too)
And Clouds fighting is not that good in FF7, kinda stiff... And stuff.
But in KH he is alot of cooler but still not that great, since KHII hasn´t been released here I don´t know what he is like there.
And I havn´t seen him in FFT, but in Squares cute little movie Advent Children where Cloud got 6 swords that he combine...Yeah it´s like a Matrix/DragonBall/or whatever animee. Pretty much über if I may say so myself.
So if you decide to have a battle between AC Cloud and any young Link on our Earth then I´d say that Cloud would win... Just pointing it out.
But ZKX would woop their asses!
I swear to god I love yeh man. Like internet family XD
But actually, alot of people believe that OoT, MM and WW were all connected. Except WW's Link is the bloodline descendant of OoT Link. Hell, in WW's Master Sword room there are stained glass windows in the shapes of the 6 sages. There are also other theories like the tree people (forget the names) are the kokiri and the Rito clan are genetically related to Zoras.
Post by: Big_Duke on August 17, 2006, 08:55:28 PM
}Cloud
Cloud=Motorcycle
}Link
Link=Biggoron Sword
}Cloud
Cloud=Ultima Weapon
}cloud
Link=Kokori Sword
}Link
Cloud=Buster Sword
}Link
Link=Master Sword
}Link
Cloud=Ragnarok
}Cloud
Link=Picori Blade
}Cloud
Cloud=Any Weapon
}Cloud
Link=Bow
}Cloud
Cloud=All Out
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Link=All Out
Link Vs. Bahamut
Link has hookshot and wind Waker Can stop time then hook onto it's horn and kill it. If Link can defeat Ganondorf's Final form then he can defeat bahamut.
Link W/ Magic and everything Vs. Cloud W/ Magic and everything
Link's Sword can easily chop Cloud in half before he can hit Link.
Link's Magic dominates Clouds Magic.
Link.
Link Only Master Sword Vs. Cloud Only Buster Sword
Link.
Link earned all his swords, Cloud just stole 'em.
Link's my favorite.
P.S. YAY Snake!
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 17, 2006, 10:18:08 PM
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Fanboy stuff.
XD. Sorry, your logic made me laugh.
Post by: Cerebus on August 17, 2006, 10:22:35 PM
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Originally posted by Big_Duke
If Link can defeat Ganondorf's Final form then he can defeat bahamut.
Uhm... not sure for Bahamut, but he sure can't defeat Bahamut Zero.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 17, 2006, 11:19:47 PM
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Originally posted by Cerebus
quote: Originally posted by Big_Duke
If Link can defeat Ganondorf's Final form then he can defeat bahamut.
Uhm... not sure for Bahamut, but he sure can't defeat Bahamut Zero.
Mirror Shield + Magic Armor + Nayru's Love + Master Sword = Invincibilty, reflcect attacks, and power
Post by: Cerebus on August 17, 2006, 11:25:48 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 17, 2006, 11:34:37 PM
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Not sure Mirror Shield is strong enough to reflect Bahamut Zero's Mega Flare or whatever it is called, though. And I don't remember any Magic Armor... and forgot what Nayru's Love do... and Link can't reach Bahamut Zero.
Magic Armor = Bonus mini quest item from WW. It makes you invincible. Nayrus Love is a magic shield. Mirror shield can reflect anything. Link just activates his two shields, absorbs Bahamuts attack with mirror shield, shoots it back at Bahamut, knowns him down, and drives the Master Sword into Bahamut. Link gets the win.
Post by: Cerebus on August 17, 2006, 11:43:01 PM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 17, 2006, 11:47:21 PM
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Ah, maybe Bahamut, but Bahamut Zero is huge, far bigger than Neo Bahamut, who is bigger than Bahamut, and attack from the space and cause some kind of big explosion, wich is why I'm not sure the Mirror Shield can reflect it. Even if it does, the reflect probably won't return to him or bring him down. If Link can beat Bahamut Zero, than maybe he'll win against Cloud... just maybe.
Mirror shield can reflect anything. Besides, he'd still have the Magic Armor. And the only reason to consider bringing Bahamut into this topic is if you say Cloud summons him, meaning Bahamut would only attack once, and Links magic shield would protect him, allowing Link to attack Cloud whilst he was recooperating from the summon.
Post by: Cerebus on August 17, 2006, 11:50:35 PM
Post by: Darkfox on August 17, 2006, 11:54:35 PM
But yeah. My vote is Link.
Plus I really get sick and tired of hearing about FF7, Sephiroth, and Cloud! Original? Come on... Sephiroth uses Supernova several times, how is that even conceivable? That would mean everything is exploded several times over. Gosh XD
And Cloud wields a huge sword and has a bad haircut, whoopee! He's an emo... -_- and what moves he got? Somthing called emoslash? Oh wait, omnislash XD. Very creative... <_<
Also considering the different styles, yeah, technically Link being an action RPG char, he'd have a great advantage. Also has the popularity advantage being a more oldschool figure. Zelda 2 was one of the first games I ever played. I'm not going to hype any about gameplay. Just saying Cloud has NO history to back him up. He's just a random generate by Squaresoft. Nothing really special.
Post by: Emerates on August 18, 2006, 12:16:21 AM
If you threw them into a 12-foot battle arena, Cloud, because he could just swing his buster sword and decapitate Link.
If you put them in a 30-foot battle arena, Link could pwn Cloud by throwing bombs and chinchous and crap like that, then rush in and slice him up. Duh.
....And I've never played FF VII.
Post by: Darkfox on August 18, 2006, 12:36:25 AM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 18, 2006, 12:51:40 AM
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They screw up physics terribly in that game. I'll just say that XD.
Let me call back into the spotlight the Sampson physics theory. As long as you have giant hair your muscles can easily become super strong.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on August 18, 2006, 02:03:09 AM
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 18, 2006, 02:14:58 AM
Post by: Razor on August 18, 2006, 04:32:04 AM
Oh, and Cloud: Final Attack+Phoenix. He's not staying down.
Link can only hold 4 fairies/bottles.
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 18, 2006, 05:32:40 AM
Post by: Bill3000 on August 18, 2006, 06:04:02 AM
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But Phoenix has to be used on you when dead. Unless he had an auto life on, but that only works once. Links faeries revive you when you die. No one else has to use em. Link can have 6 bottles if its MM rules.
I don't really think Phoenix Downs / Phoenix works on actual death, though. Dying, yes, but not actual death. Otherwise you could just revive Aeris with no second thought, or any time of the billions of deaths in the other games. :p
Post by: Drace on August 18, 2006, 07:57:59 AM
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i think cloud and tifa should make babies
same with link and zelda
yeah and metal gear for ps was fun but it became stupid as snake became a grandpa
Now if you payed attention to the games and news on MGS4, you would've know why.
As you know (if not, your brain is to retarded to play any MGS ever again) Solid Snake, along with Liquid Snake, are clones of Big Boss.
But, they aren't perfect. True, they look like the perfect fighting machines and soldiers, but they have a lot of flaws. One for Snake being rapid age. The cells of his body have a rapid aging producere, thus making him old in the fourth MGS game.
Also, you should remind that Snake was around BEFORE MGS1, since the "Les Enfants Terribles" project from 1972. Seeing as MGS1 takes place in 2005 and MGS2 in 2007 and 2009 (2007 being the Tanker episode; 2009 being the Big Shell episode), this makes Solid Snake 37 á 38 at the end of MGS2. Seeing as MGS4 will take place further in the future (In my opinion, probably somewhere around 2015, making Snake 43 á 44) and with the rapid aging, it seems plausible for me.
Listen to the man. Drace, write a damned book on the games. I'm too lazy t buy a PS2 and play em.
I'm working on a manga. Book didn't work out, can't find interest for it. You can check what I have on Sporky's (Oooog's) site, under User Submitted Mangas. Still working on deciding how to put every thing in place. Like either putting the events of MG1 and 2 as flashbacks between major events of MGS (aka MG3) or doing it otherwise.
Post by: Razor on August 18, 2006, 08:03:02 AM
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But Phoenix has to be used on you when dead. Unless he had an auto life on, but that only works once. Links faeries revive you when you die. No one else has to use em. Link can have 6 bottles if its MM rules.
Well, keeping in mind MM is only Young Link. I'd think we were pitting Adult Link vs Cloud here.
Post by: Drace on August 18, 2006, 08:16:26 AM
Get the stats of both together and attacks, make up Link as a boss and Cloud as a boss, make Link as a character and Cloud as a character, make two scenarios, perfect both the characters and bosses and voíla, we can see who's the best =D
Post by: Raen Ryong on August 18, 2006, 08:51:29 AM
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Sephiroth uses Supernova several times, how is that even conceivable? That would mean everything is exploded several times over.
Umm... actually, Jenova is known as many things, "Calamity from the Skies" as well as the master of DECEPTION and ILLUSION. Sephiroth has essentially become as one with Jenova and therefore can summon the same powers of deception and illusion, as embodied by the Supernova spell - not an actual supernova, but a mere illusion -- much like the battle background itself.
All of the main characters in FF7 are deceived in some way, with the exception of Aeris but as she is a Cetra she is beyond the level of the rest of the party - and on par with Jenova (who embodies deception).
Don't mess with the game's logic if you don't understand its intricacies ;)
And just to contribute to the discussion, I don't play Zelda as I don't like it, but Cloud would whip Link. And don't complain that Cloud cannot lift his sword -- he has Jenova cells... they grant him superhuman abilities. That's also why Sephiroth can lift his Masamune...
Plus, I never knew of someone having to recuperate from the effects of summoning. Kadaj doesn't have to recuperate in the slightest in Advent Children, and he's weaker than Cloud...
Post by: Razor on August 18, 2006, 09:49:37 AM
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Might I remind you guys we are on an RPG-Maker forum?
Get the stats of both together and attacks, make up Link as a boss and Cloud as a boss, make Link as a character and Cloud as a character, make two scenarios, perfect both the characters and bosses and voíla, we can see who's the best =D
I'm sure that would be biased by whoever did it.
Post by: Drace on August 18, 2006, 10:06:09 AM
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Might I remind you guys we are on an RPG-Maker forum?
Get the stats of both together and attacks, make up Link as a boss and Cloud as a boss, make Link as a character and Cloud as a character, make two scenarios, perfect both the characters and bosses and voíla, we can see who's the best =D
I'm sure that would be biased by whoever did it.
Get someone neutral, someone who'd agree with me that Solid Snake would kick both Link's, Cloud's, Chuck Norris', Vin Diesel's, God's and Jesus' ***.
Post by: karlc on August 18, 2006, 01:29:12 PM
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Link, he's not a useless guy who gets beaten by Hercules from a Disney cartoon. XD I caught that from sombody O_o...
But yeah. My vote is Link.
Plus I really get sick and tired of hearing about FF7, Sephiroth, and Cloud! Original? Come on... Sephiroth uses Supernova several times, how is that even conceivable? That would mean everything is exploded several times over. Gosh XD
And Cloud wields a huge sword and has a bad haircut, whoopee! He's an emo... -_- and what moves he got? Somthing called emoslash? Oh wait, omnislash XD. Very creative... <_<
Also considering the different styles, yeah, technically Link being an action RPG char, he'd have a great advantage. Also has the popularity advantage being a more oldschool figure. Zelda 2 was one of the first games I ever played. I'm not going to hype any about gameplay. Just saying Cloud has NO history to back him up. He's just a random generate by Squaresoft. Nothing really special.
Im guessing you havnt seen advent children because cloud and doge bullets while fighting another guy , he can simply catch the bow or break it
Post by: I Have a Sandwich on August 18, 2006, 05:05:49 PM
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quote: Sephiroth uses Supernova several times, how is that even conceivable? That would mean everything is exploded several times over.
Umm... actually, Jenova is known as many things, "Calamity from the Skies" as well as the master of DECEPTION and ILLUSION. Sephiroth has essentially become as one with Jenova and therefore can summon the same powers of deception and illusion, as embodied by the Supernova spell - not an actual supernova, but a mere illusion -- much like the battle background itself.
All of the main characters in FF7 are deceived in some way, with the exception of Aeris but as she is a Cetra she is beyond the level of the rest of the party - and on par with Jenova (who embodies deception).
Don't mess with the game's logic if you don't understand its intricacies ;)
And just to contribute to the discussion, I don't play Zelda as I don't like it, but Cloud would whip Link. And don't complain that Cloud cannot lift his sword -- he has Jenova cells... they grant him superhuman abilities. That's also why Sephiroth can lift his Masamune...
Plus, I never knew of someone having to recuperate from the effects of summoning. Kadaj doesn't have to recuperate in the slightest in Advent Children, and he's weaker than Cloud...
It matters not if he has the cells because super human strength still requires an adequate amount of muyscle mass, something Cloud clearly does not have. But as far as I can see, everyone agrees that mano e mano, sword on sword, Link would kill Cloud. yes, maybe if Cloud did some pussy **** like getting a giant ragon to kill Cloud, he might have a slight channce of winning. Link > Cloud in combat and awesomeness. I'm bored of this topic. Good bye.
Post by: Darkfox on August 18, 2006, 05:07:53 PM
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Im guessing you havnt seen advent children because cloud and doge bullets while fighting another guy , he can simply catch the bow or break it
That arrow. Not bow. And gee, that is SO original *thinks Matrix*
Link don't need no super fancy eye-candy hour-long moves to win.
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I'm bored of this topic. Good bye.
Agreed. These things get old fast.