Post by: gamerman4 on September 02, 2006, 06:25:55 PM
CPU (if u dont know the name just the Brand(AMD or Intel) and speed):
RAM size (memory, u should know what this is):
Graphics card(if not integrated):
Hard Drive (How much your comp can carry hehe):
Lastly, anythign you want to share about it (overclocking, cool case, anything cool about ur comp):
Well here's mine:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Overclocked to 2.5Ghz >: )
RAM: 1GB OCZ EL Platinum
Gfx Card: ATi Radeon X800PRO (Overclocked to 490/990)
HDD: one 80GB and one 250GB (soon to buy a 200GB)
Extra:
17" LCD Monitor 8ms resp. time
Logitech Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (505 Watts)
NZXT Nemesis Elite case
So what you have in your comp?
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 02, 2006, 06:51:30 PM
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
1 GB Ram
Sapphire Radeon X1300 Gfx Card
120 + 40 GB hard drives
DVD burner
19 inch LCD monitor
And I got the same case as you, just mine is a silver color and my lcd panel on the top doesn't light up, and for some reason my front usb ports aren't working, I got them hooked up right, the devices have power and everything, its just that they don't function right.
Post by: Drace on September 02, 2006, 07:10:36 PM
Post by: White Dwarf on September 02, 2006, 07:41:18 PM
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*
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Post by: Grandy on September 02, 2006, 07:57:47 PM
Post by: Drace on September 02, 2006, 11:27:51 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 02, 2006, 11:49:58 PM
Post by: charaman on September 03, 2006, 01:51:32 AM
RAM: 1.5GB
Gfx Card: nvidia GeForce 6100 gpu
HDD: two 250 Gb and one 160 Gb
17" LCD Monitor
Actual licensed copy of XP: MCE. Yay me!
Post by: Razor on September 03, 2006, 03:30:45 AM
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Originally posted by Drace
To White: Too long; didn't read.
If you use "tl;dr" it makes you genuinely awesome.
My comp?
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (only around 2.2 ghz, I'm planning on getting a pentium 4 3.4ghz one soon)
1 GB Ram (I want another stick of RAM. MORE. MOOOREEEE!)
Nvidia GeForce 6600LE
200 GB HDD
DVD burner
17 inch LCD monitor (I think. It might be 19 but I doubt it)
Post by: EXO Muffin on September 03, 2006, 03:47:16 AM
- Microsoft Windows ME:Millenium Edition 4.90.3000
Computer:
- GeniuneIntel
Intel(r) family 6 model 5 processor
160.0MB RAM
Peformance status:
- Memory: 160.0 MB of RAM
System Resources: 36% free
File System: 32-bit
Virtual Memory: 32-bit
Disk Compression: Not installed
PC Cards (PCMIA): 32-bit
My computer sucks. Photoshop actually costed 5 times as much.
Post by: gamerman4 on September 03, 2006, 04:47:07 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
quote: Originally posted by Drace
To White: Too long; didn't read.
If you use "tl;dr" it makes you genuinely awesome.
My comp?
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (only around 2.2 ghz, I'm planning on getting a pentium 4 3.4ghz one soon)
1 GB Ram (I want another stick of RAM. MORE. MOOOREEEE!)
Nvidia GeForce 6600LE
200 GB HDD
DVD burner
17 inch LCD monitor (I think. It might be 19 but I doubt it)
About your CPU....you do realize that going from that Athlon to a P4 at 3.4Ghz would be a downgrade....right? Unless you are shelling out for a Core 2 Duo, a normal P4 at 3.4 Ghz is about equivalent to an Athlon at ~2.1Ghz.
Post by: Razor on September 03, 2006, 04:58:02 AM
I always thought more gigahertz = more better?
Is you telling me my current thing is good now?
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 03, 2006, 05:13:55 AM
|\|3RD5!!1
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 03, 2006, 08:46:51 AM
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Originally posted by Grandy
My comp has a keyboard, a mouse, and a monitor, and that's as far as I understand about it.
Post by: Dragonium on September 03, 2006, 09:27:58 AM
CPU: AMD-K6 3D. Runs at 400 MHz, if you're lucky.
RAM size: 64 MB RAM. If you're lucky.
Graphics card: ATi 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X. Works at 8 MB. If you're lucky.
Hard Drive: 28.6 GB, if you're lucky.
And there is nothing "cool" about my computer.
I'm planning on getting a new processor and graphics card soon, so that this b*tch should be a bit faster. If you're lucky.
Post by: Drace on September 03, 2006, 10:03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Dragonium
None of you can possibly understand how terrible my computer is.
CPU: AMD-K6 3D. Runs at 400 MHz, if you're lucky.
RAM size: 64 MB RAM. If you're lucky.
Graphics card: ATi 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X. Works at 8 MB. If you're lucky.
Hard Drive: 28.6 GB, if you're lucky.
And there is nothing "cool" about my computer.
I'm planning on getting a new processor and graphics card soon, so that this b*tch should be a bit faster. If you're lucky.
Drace:AND HE HAS DIALUP!
MT11: BLASPHEMY!
Razor: LIES!
Post by: Osmose on September 03, 2006, 11:29:40 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
What?
I always thought more gigahertz = more better?
Is you telling me my current thing is good now?
AMD processors run more cycles per second than intel ones, therefore, although they may clock at a lower gigahertz rate, they are actually more powerful than an intel chip at the same gigahertz number.
Post by: gamerman4 on September 03, 2006, 02:47:18 PM
The architecture of the 2 manufacturers products are totally different. AMD's chips are designed such that they have a shorter pipeline, this being a sort of conveyor belt of instructions, than Intel's chips. This means, again in lay terms, that AMD's processors can perform more work per cycle which is why they get away with slower clock speeds and still offer comparable (and sometimes superior). So you see that clock speeds are not to be used to compare between the two chiptypes.
Back in the days of the AthlonXP, AMD took to naming their chips using something called a performance rating. Officially this was meant as a meant of measuring the performance of the chips, however consumers began using the numbers to compare the XPs against the Intel's Pentium4 processors(which was AMDs real intent for the naming system). Thus, people often drew a comparison between, say an AthlonXP 3000+ and a Pentium4 3.0GHz, likewise the AthlonXP 2800+ was to be compared to the Pentium4 2.8GHz. To a degree, these comparisons were valid and held however there are many exceptions (i.e., the ratings do not compare as evenly as the clock speeds begin to get higher)
So to recap:
-Athlon CPUs may have less clock cycles, but they can do more work per cycle than Pentiums. This means they are much more efficient
Post by: Apex on September 03, 2006, 04:32:08 PM
256mb sdr Ram
33GB Hardrive.
2.6ghz intel celeron
Intel Extreme graphics (Up to 64bit support.)
2 usb ports on the back and 2 in the front.
CD drive that doesn't work.
Hey, you know what? It runs the programs I need, so shut the hell up.
Post by: Razor on September 03, 2006, 08:31:32 PM
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 03, 2006, 08:50:56 PM
Lets see...
Intel Celeron 1.8 ghz
128 MB Ram
40 GB hard drive
Integrated audo
CD burn/write + Dvd read drive
No monitor
Ball mouse and old keyboard
Cost: Free :)
One of my bros friends got a new computer cuz their old computer broke. He gave the computer to my brother who in turn gave it to me (my brother just kept the monitor), I fixed it up (just had to reinstall windows), and now its good as new. I have no idea what I'm gonna do with it yet, maybe put my snes games on it or something.
Post by: Archem on September 03, 2006, 09:11:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Razor
Well thanks guys, I think you just saved me more money. Which I can now spend on A) a DS Lite or B) 1 gig of more RAM!
Go for the DS! It's worth it, I swear! And 1 GB of RAM is plenty for the next year or two, so feel not the pressure of insufficient RAM for many months more!
EDIT: Oh, right. Frog-got what we was doing here...
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/4821/dxdiagfz8.png
Post by: Emerates on September 03, 2006, 09:22:10 PM
And it has guts!
I have my own personal hard drive, which has 80gb of space, which I have filled with about 50gb of music. My mouse has an air conditioner in it (crazy, man), and my keyboard flashes when electronic crap goes on/off around it. LCD monitor, surround sound system, that's about it.
Post by: Djanki on September 04, 2006, 01:23:58 AM
....but it's still sorta slow when I compare it to....oh...just about any computer I see. And since we only get Dial-Up where I live....
....I've got a new 'hunk-o-junk'. (I think it might be the Limewire I have, but it was slow, even when I took it off)
I'm gonna buy myself a new laptop in a few weeks, but I wanna know: Is Dell the best I can get? Money is no object, I should add.
And, try not to talk in 'gigahertz'--that talk confuses me. I'm after quality, durability, and economy...barring my 'money is no object' comment earlier (I'm no Rich Uncle Pennybags...)
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 04, 2006, 01:30:35 AM
If I can find the computer on the internet, I'll post more info about it.
Post by: EXO Muffin on September 04, 2006, 02:16:22 AM
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Originally posted by Apex
*says that his computer sucks and not to make fun of it, even though EXO-muffin's computer is ten times worse*
Post by: Linkizcool on September 04, 2006, 02:21:10 AM
It has four graphics cards, 2 ATI Padeon X650 and two integrated HyperMemory cards. 9 USB prots, 1 FireWire.
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 04, 2006, 02:41:22 AM
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
We'll soon be replacing it with a $500 dollar computer we found at Wal-Mart. It said 3.0GHz processor. I don't know computers so I'm hoping that's good.
If I can find the computer on the internet, I'll post more info about it.
Well, your getting your money's worth. Its not bad, but its nothing special.
Also, if its an intel celeron processor, it won't run as good as an intel pentium 4 processor. I'm guessing it'll have either 256 or 512 mb RAM. A cheap/decent graphics card, probably a DVD burner. Decent hard drive.
A thing that you HAVE to remember when buying a computer, you have to keep in mind what you plan to do with your computer before buying it. For example, my brother does 3 things with his computer, plays diablo II, plays poker online, and types reports. He has a gig of RAM, but wants 2 gigs, he wants to upgrade to a radeon X1900 (or simular Nvidia card), and he recently spent $200 on a new processor/mobo (had a AMD athlon 64 3000+ now has a AMD athlon duel core 3800+). Even though he'll have a sweet computer once he's done with his upgrades, he would have wasted a LOT of money since his current computer is more than fine for what he uses it for.
If you don't plan on playing high end games or doing activities that will require a really good computer, don't buy one. If you don't plan on doing anything special with your computer, that $500 one will probably be good for you.
@Djanki
With laptops, get a really long warrenty. Mine broke after two years, and it would have cost me $600 to fix it. I haven't had a Dell before, so I don't know if they're "better" than another brand. If you want it to have a longer batter life, look to see if it has a mobil processor (I think most laptops have one now a days anyway though), and go with a litheum battery I think its called cuz they last longer than normal ones.
For processors, if you want quality, go with the AMD turon (sp) or the intel centreno (sp) processors. Do NOT get an intel celeron processor, they're cheaper, but crappier. Turon and Centreno are processors built specifically with laptops in mind.
Read reviews on the laptops before you buy one. A problem some laptops have is overheating, usually when playing high end games or something that requires a lot of CPU, if a laptop overheats, it could ruin the whole computer (happened with mine when playing chrono trigger for 8 hours straight).
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 04, 2006, 11:50:33 AM
We have this thing were we could watch TV and DVDs on our computer. The TV and the DVD work fine, but the games are slow and choppy. They're still playable, but they have to have all the detail taken away. If I wanted something that could play anything, as smooth as possible, what would you recommend?
I don't play online games, not really. So I'd like advice for games like Half-Life 2 or something. I don't play computer games as much as my brother. I mostly use the computer for RPG Maker, and maybe school. I need something that will take away the lag for me.
I found the computer. Will it do it's job, or is it a waste of money?
17" Flat CRT (16" diagonal viewable), 1280x1024 @ 60Hz
Processor: AMD Sempron 3100+ processorOperates at 1.8GHz 256KB L2 Cache 1600MHz System Bus
Memory: Intel Celeron D Processor 356 64-bit Technology with Intel EM64T; Operates at 3.33GHz 512KB L2 Cache 533MHz
Hard Drive: 160GB (7200 RPM, 2MB Cache)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
Optical Device: DVD +/-RW, 16x Multi-Format Double Layer(up to 8.5GB with Double Layer media)
Expansion Slots: Total: 1 PCI-E x16, 1 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI;
Available: 1 PCI-E x16, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI
Communications: 56K ITU V.92 ready Fax/Modem
(RJ-11 port)10/100 Mbps Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port)
Graphics & Audio: ATI Radeon X300 Based Integrated Graphics up to 128MB of shared video memory
6-Channel (5.1) High Definition Audio w/ Amplified Stereo Speakers
Digital Media Reader (Memory Card Reader): 9-in-1 Digital Media ManagerSecure Digital (SD), Smart Media, Micro Drive, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Compact Flash, xD, Multimedia Card (MMC), USB 2.0
Weight: 22.5 lbs (CPU only, no packaging)
Monitor: 39.0 lbs. (17.7 kg)
External Ports: 5 USB 2.0 Ports, 1 in Media Manager, 4 in back, 1 VGA External Connector, 1 Serial Port, 1 Parallel Port, 2 PS/2 Ports (Keyboard and Mouse), 5 Audio Ports (2 in front and 3 in back)
Input Devices: Standard Multifunction Keyboard, 2-Button Wheel Mouse
Software: Productivity Software: Microsoft Works 8.5, Microsoft Office 2003 60-day trial, Microsoft Money 2006, Adobe Acrobat Reader 7
Digital Media Software: CyberLink PowerDVD Suite, Cyberlink Power2Go, Microsoft Windows Media Player 10, Microsoft Digital Image (includes 60-day Digital, RealNetworks RealPlayer, Quicktime
Connectivity / Utilities: Microsoft Internet Explorer
It's a Celeron D. Great...
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 04, 2006, 03:47:48 PM
I don't know what the recommendations for half life 2 is, but for oblivion (which I'm guessing will be pretty simmular) are as following. Note, these are recommendations and not requirements.
3 ghz intel pentium 4 or equivalent processor. Either of the two processors are probably about equivalent.
1 GB system memory. I'm guessing you don't meet this.
ATI X800 series or higher gfx card. You do not meet this.
I have an AMD athlon 64 3000+ which is about what oblivion requires for the processor, 1 GB system memory, and an ATI X1300 gfx card, and oblivion still runs choppy for me sometimes.
In short, that computer is not good enough to play new games to their full potential. It'll be more than fine for most games such as the sims II or whatever, but for new high end games, I don't think it'll cut it.
Lets see, for $435 you could build a...
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
1 GB Ram
200 GB SATA hard drive
DVD burner
ATI Radeon X1300 gfx card
and you get this case:
Though, that doesn't include windows XP ($90) or a monitor or keyboard/mouse. And plus you'd have to build it..
But anyway, if you want to play new games with your computer, look for an AMD 3000+ or intel 3.0 ghz or higher processor. 1 GB of memory (ram), and an ATI Radeon X800 or Gforce 6800 or higher gfx card.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 04, 2006, 03:48:38 PM
Post by: Tomi on September 04, 2006, 04:48:19 PM
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 04, 2006, 05:03:30 PM
At least we have XP. We got it for free, and now it's registered. He has a lot of knowledge of computers, but I don't. Just so you know, he's 46 so it kind of shocks him to see PC games with extremely high demands.
If I had to have one question answered, what exactly is memory and why is it important? I though memory was RAM, and that it just saved information like a memory card or something. I thought processing speed was the most important factor for playing high end games?
For the record, is there a site that teaches the basics about computers out there? I'm a n00b. Remember that.
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 04, 2006, 05:36:27 PM
Imagine opening up paint and you want to edit a picture. The data is moved from your hard drive (storage) to the RAM (workspace) and thus you can work on it. It works the same way with games. The more RAM you have, the more your computer has to work with. I can't really explain it all that well, but RAM is basically your computers workspace, if you dont have enough ram, games and such will lag and slow down.
Processing speed is very important, but that alone won't run a good game. The CPU (processor) basically dertermain the speed at which your computer can process data. So that IS a very important factor, but the gfx card is equally important when it comes to games. While the cpu handles the data, the gfx card handles how well and how fast the computer can display stuff. So you could have some super CPU, but if your gfx card can't render the graphics of a new game or can't handle the amount of graphics needed for the display, the game will lag a lot.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 04, 2006, 05:51:17 PM
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Your hard drive stores stuff such as data. RAM* DragonBlaze mory (names are interchangable) is basically your computers 'work space'.
Imagine opening up paint and you want to edit a picture. The data is moved from your hard drive (storage) to the RAM (workspace) and thus you can work on it. It works the same way with games. The more RAM you have, the more your computer has to work with. I can't really explain it all that well, but RAM is basically your computers workspace, if you dont have enough ram, games and such will lag and slow down.
Processing speed is very important, but that alone won't run a good game. The CPU (processor) basically dertermain the speed at which your computer can process data. So that IS a very important factor, but the gfx card is equally important when it comes to games. While the cpu handles the data, the gfx card handles how well and how fast the computer can display stuff. So you could have some super CPU, but if your gfx card can't render the graphics of a new game or can't handle the amount of graphics needed for the display, the game will lag a lot.
I comepletely understood that. Thanks. Consider teaching. :p
Oh, and I think we bought a new graphics card at some point that is better than this new computer. My dad said he was going to replace it after we bought the new one. He's mostly after the processor.
Still, are there good graphics cards out there that won't break the bank? No more than $120 or so. Anything less than that and we're good.
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 04, 2006, 06:03:34 PM
I think I bought a sapphire radeon x1300 for $80 or $90, An ATI radeon X1300 cost $160 or $170 in the stores at that time. The name brand probably runs a bit better than my offbrand, but it doesn't run so much better where its worth spending all that extra money for it.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 04, 2006, 06:50:40 PM
Did you notice gamerman4 hasn't really posted but we posted a lot in this topic?
BTW, I'm reading some reviews on the site. Very helpfull. There aren't that many 5 star ratings, and the ones that do still have problems (MMOs lag, some high-end games lag).
Edit:
How's this one?
MSI RX800-TD128E Radeon X800 128MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Chipset Manufacturer: ATI
Core clock: 392MHz
D-SUB: 1
DirectX: DirectX 9
DVI: 1
Memory Clock: 700MHz
Memory Interface: 256-bit
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
PixelPipelines: 12
TV-Out: HDTV/S-Video Out
Model #: RX800-TD128E
Item #: N82E16814127176
In Stock
$6.13 Three Day Shipping
I think it was $83
If not that, what about this one?
MSI RX1300Pro-TD256E Radeon X1300PRO 256MB GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Chipset Manufacturer: ATI
Core clock: 600MHz
D-SUB: 1
DirectX: DirectX 9
DVI: 1
Memory Clock: 800MHz
Memory Interface: 128-bit
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
PixelPipelines: 4
TV-Out: S-Video Out
Model #: RX1300Pro-TD256E
Item #: N82E16814127193
In Stock
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Move To Wish List
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I'm looking at the price first, reviews second. The first had more complaints than the second. Then again, the first had 73 reviews.
Post by: gamerman4 on September 05, 2006, 12:23:22 AM
Dragonblaze: the reason Oblivion plays choppy on ur comp is because the X1300 is a cheapo card. The A64 3000 is plenty to play it (though consider Overclocking it).
aboutasoandthis: under $120 will get you a real nice card. All i need to know is if your comp uses PCI-Express or AGP.... based on the two you pciked i hope you know that both are PCI-Express
RAM is pretty easy to explain....
First of all...
Your hard drive is the main thing that stores all the information on your computer but its probably the slowest component on any computer.
Your RAM stores whatever is running at the time and it is FAST.
Think of your hard drive as a one-lane-dirt road compared to your RAM being a 20-lane super highway. The average bandwidth of the fastest HDD you can buy is about 140MB/s. RAM is about.......500x that fast. My RAM bandwidth is 7GB/s (I overclock though). One reason things lag is that when you dont have enoguh RAM, it has to use your hard drive as "virtual" RAM which is obviously MUCH slower, this can cause lag in games and lag in a whole bunch of stuff (Photoshop is a RAM hogging demon).
The reason hard drives arent made out of the same tech as RAM is that RAM is what is considered "volatile"...and its just really expensive in large amounts (2GB of RAM can cost more than a 200GB HDD). The instance power is lost from the machine everything on your RAM is lost. This is why its considered memory.....short-term memory hehe.
Post by: Linkizcool on September 05, 2006, 01:11:21 AM
8 bits equal a byte
1007 bytes equal a kilobyte
1007 kilobytes equal a megabyte
1007 megabytes equal a gigabyte
so on and so forth...
"Hz" and the end of the clock speed shows how many vibrations (in this case, the positive/negative charges) per second.
The CPU runs on something called "Transistor Transistor Logic", aka TTL, aka Binary. TTL's work by sending and reading positive and negative charges. What all this fits in with games is this:
Here is an example code in C++:
#include
using namespace std;
int main()
{
cout<<"HEY, you, I'm alive! Oh, and Hello World!n";
cin.get();
}
In binary it would look something like this:
0010000000001101000010100010001101
1010010110111001100011011011000111
0101011001000110010100100000001111
0001101001011011110111001101110100
0111001001100101011000010110110100
1111100000110100001010000011010000
1010011101010111001101101001011011
1001100111001000000110111001100001
0110110101100101011100110111000001
1000010110001101100101001000000111
0011011101000110010000111011000011
0100001010000011010000101001101001
0110111001110100001000000110110101
1000010110100101101110001010000010
1001000011010000101001111011000011
0100001010001000000010000001100011
0110111101110101011101000011110000
1111000010001001001000010001010101
1001001011000010000001111001011011
1101110101001011000010000001001001
0010011101101101001000000110000101
1011000110100101110110011001010010
0001001000000100111101101000001011
0000100000011000010110111001100100
0010000001001000011001010110110001
1011000110111100100000010101110110
1111011100100110110001100100001000
0101011100011011100010001000111011
0000110100001010001000000010000001
1000110110100101101110001011100110
0111011001010111010000101000001010
0100111011000011010000101001111101
Each 0 or 1 is one positive or negative charge in the TTL "gate", or the part of the CPU which interprets and sends out the binary. There are millions of transistors and gates in your CPU, which can fit in your palm.
Hertz basically measure how many 0's or 1's the TTL gates can process at once. As you can see, the coding alone takes a lot of processing. To play a game, the coding is about 100-1000 times this size for a simple game. Plus, the CPU needs to send out additional positive and negative charges to the sound card, which sends the output to your peaker, and it needs to interpret the input from you mouse and keyboards, interpret it according to the game code, and relay iot to the graphics card which displays it on the monitor.
MHz is Hertz 10 to the power of 6 800 MHz is about 800000000 Hertz, which in turn is 1600000000 positive/negative vibrations per second.
Now imagine 3 GHz
3000000000 Hertz, 6000000000 vibrations per second. Obviously, this can process a lot more data.
The PC you want to buy could send out about 800000000 positive charges (1's) and 800000000 negative charges (0's). Not enough, amazingly, for a high-end game.
In short words, the compys you want cannot send out enough 0's and 1's per second to play the games you want.
Post by: DragonBlaze on September 05, 2006, 02:03:31 AM
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Dragonblaze: the reason Oblivion plays choppy on ur comp is because the X1300 is a cheapo card.
I figured as much, Oblivion is the only new game I have, the next newest one is morrowind, the next newest one is worms armagetton... Those are the only 3 computer games I own. I play a lot of playstation games on my computer though too. Anyway, I didn't want to spend lots of $$$ for a namebrand card when I only really need it for one game. A lot of times its not even an issue, so I'm happy. :)
Post by: gamerman4 on September 05, 2006, 12:42:41 PM
8 bits= 1 byte
1024 bytes = 1 Kilobyte
1024 KB = 1MB
etc....
Also, the graphics card is not dependant on the CPU to relay information. In most gaming PCs the graphics card is held back actually by the CPU because even at the new 64bit CPU standard, graphics card use a 256 bit interface, some even 512bit. Also, in most cases, with a decent sound card, it processes sound information by itself.
Your information would only be correct in the event that they had integrated graphics and sound cards since it would all rely mainly on the CPU because there are no true dedicated cards.
Also 1 Mhz is 10^6 Hz which is 1,000,000 Hz
3 Ghz would be (10^9)*3.... 3,000,000,000 Hz
In computing, most CPUs are labeled in terms of their clock speed expressed in megahertz or gigahertz (10^9 hertz)). The number of megahertz refers to the frequency of the CPU's master clock signal ("clock speed"). This signal is simply an electrical voltage which changes from low to high and back again at regular intervals.
To explain why AMD CPus can keep u with Intel CPus even though they are at a lower clock speed...
The greatest advantage that AMD has is their integrated memory controller, meaning (in lay terms) that the cpu has more direct control over memory bandwidth resulting in better bandwidth and better performance in bandwidth demanding tasks such as gaming. Technically speaking all this means is that, the CPU doesn't have to "go anywhere" to get access to the memory (Intel systems, for the time bearing, have to communicate with the Northbridge to access memory). Pentium 4s have to go through the Northbridge before communicating with he components. This results in a much less efficient use of CPU speed.
Post by: Almeidaboo on September 05, 2006, 03:17:06 PM
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Originally posted by Tomi
Almeidaboo wins.
Unfortunately, yeas...:(
Post by: Archem on September 05, 2006, 03:43:21 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by Tomi
Almeidaboo wins.
Unfortunately, yeas...:(
*sad*
Post by: Linkizcool on September 05, 2006, 04:57:08 PM
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Originally posted by gamerman4
3 Ghz would be (10^9)*3.... 3,000,000,000 Hz
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Thats what I wrote, except with no commas.
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...3000000000 Hertz...
If you count the zeros, theres nine in there.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 05, 2006, 07:56:58 PM
He does not like internet shopping, but maybe he can look at the site and pick something.
You're explanations left me looking like this: :x Do not consider teaching. Thanks for the help anyway.
Post by: gamerman4 on September 05, 2006, 08:08:26 PM
aboutasoandthis: I do this all day on comp forum.
Basic procedure:
How much money you willing to spend on a gfx card?
Do you use PCI-Express or AGP?
Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 05, 2006, 08:16:09 PM
Respond by PM instead of here, if you wanna teach me about computers. This goes for everyone. I'd really appreciate it.