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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Grandy on September 12, 2006, 11:06:38 AM

Title: I'm surprised.
Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2006, 11:06:38 AM

Yesterday was the 9/11 and no one made a thread about it.
 I was really expecting a flood of people claiming to be really sad about it.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 12, 2006, 11:57:14 AM

Well, my thoughts were that this is an international forum. An international forum that from what I've seen not only thinks America can f*** itself, but would needlessly rant about Bush with inconsistent gibberish. Easier to not make one.

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Post by: Cosmos on September 12, 2006, 01:10:09 PM

As a new yorker, I could care less.......... ^_^ Sides, I was kinda hoping it would be ignored. No point living in the past. Oh yeah...

*insert some kind of cool rant here*

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Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2006, 02:12:04 PM

 ZKX has a point.
 So does Mid.
 But I'm still surprised.

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Post by: Drace on September 12, 2006, 02:31:18 PM

When I look at it, I couldn´t care less. Sure, 9/11 caused 3000 American deads. But America's retaliation caused tens of thousands of deads, also with lots and lots innocent civilians. Who suffered the real price? America or Afghanistan? But I'ma not gonna discuss this with your guys, I'll make enemies.

Not that I aprove what the Al Qeada did, but just that the retalliation caused more damage over time then they did.

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 12, 2006, 04:05:14 PM

I just want to know how many people took the latest Cyanide and happiness issue as a joke, and how many were mortally offended. :p

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Post by: Osmose on September 12, 2006, 04:31:24 PM

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Originally posted by Grandy
Yesterday was the 9/11 and no one made a thread about it.
 I was really expecting a flood of people claiming to be really sad about it.

Probably because they don't want to be accused of "claiming" it if they really do care.

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Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2006, 05:44:58 PM

 You know what I meant. I KNOW there are people who are still sad about that, especially the ones who lost family members and such, but a great numbr of people, including myself, say they're sorry to be polite.
 Because really, I felt sad at the beggining, but it had nothing to do with me at all.

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Post by: Cosmos on September 12, 2006, 06:05:46 PM

I felt annoyed. Mainly because ppl use this crap as an excuse to get things, like money or pity. And it works too, *shrugs* It would be nice if people would just move on, and stop bringing this up.. Every month we're in a different color, ZOMG terriost gonna attack zeh trains!! ZOMG new videos of Bin laden!! Watch us translate it!! Lawl!! :dry:  Like really... they've been saying the SAME thing for the past five years, and it's getting old.. (Z)

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Post by: Archem on September 12, 2006, 06:43:28 PM

It's terrible what happened, but what we're doing over there is just as awful. Everytime 9/11 pops up, I feel obligated to post a link to this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change    

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Post by: White Dwarf on September 12, 2006, 07:00:33 PM

What I think's kinda stupid is that we have to do a minuet silence over here, yesturday, during school. It's like, what? Every year we have a stupid reminder that amercian is overly unprotected? Wa?

I mean, I understand the minuet silence for the War, because people volonteired their lives for our safety, and such. But this is just a kinda stupid thing to think over.

Really.

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Post by: WarxePB on September 12, 2006, 07:36:50 PM

^: No, people are still volunteering their lives for our safety. Even if you disprove of what America is doing in the Middle East, they're still the only ones who have the balls to stand up and say "We think terrorism is a threat, so we're gonna try and stop it at the root." Even if their war is flawed, and their methods could be better, you've still gotta respect them for doing that, despite the pressure from the rest of the world.

EDIT: But let's not get into that stuff in this thread.

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Post by: Razor on September 12, 2006, 07:51:10 PM

I was not actually affected AFIAK so I don't really care that much.
Sure, almost 3000 people died needlessly, but how many people die needlessly every day across the world? Starving children in Ethiopia, people dying of AIDS in Africa? I'm pretty sure that number is higher than 3000. Or at least in a week it would be.

Hell, I would post amusing images of 9/11 but I wouldn't want to offend anyone, and I don't want to accidently do that.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 12, 2006, 07:51:57 PM

I think the Brits have a moment of silence because 9/11 was really the first attack that made everyone open their eyes to terrorism, so they kinda just choose that day to remember the dead from any terror attack. Ya'll had a train blow up, member?

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Post by: Drace on September 12, 2006, 07:53:33 PM

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Originally posted by Grandy
You know what I meant. I KNOW there are people who are still sad about that, especially the ones who lost family members and such, but a great numbr of people, including myself, say they're sorry to be polite.
 Because really, I felt sad at the beggining, but it had nothing to do with me at all.

Wanna see sad people? Go to Afghanistan. A lot worse there.

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Post by: Razor on September 12, 2006, 08:05:57 PM

Afghanistan is changing for the better in some parts. It was on the news yesterday; they got proper buildings, a TV station with a female newscaster, MTV like shows, women don't need to wrap their faces up in burqas, a mall, paved roads... there are a lot of things going for that place. However, there is some places that are still unfortunate. America can't be everywhere at once.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 12, 2006, 08:06:03 PM

Drace, Afghanistan sucked before we went to the Middle East. They've been killing each other for hundreds of years. The impact us goin over there had was minimal at best. The problem is, no one will tell you "Its really bad with us here, but it was just as bad before". No. They will tell you "Its been bad since we got here".

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 12, 2006, 08:17:11 PM

I believe America is a spoiled brat, who expects everyone to agree and cator to his needs. But the truth is no one gives a **** about that spoiled rich brat, and he just got something that has been coming to him for over 200 years. The brat needs to shut the fuck up and move on. Maybe even change his ways, but atleast move on. I'm not saying it wasnt a disaster, but a true patriot hadnt existed since the 1800's in this country until 9/11. It shouldent take a plane driven into a building in manhatten for us to have pride. My two cents. I TAKE NO PRISONERS. :guns:

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Post by: SaiKar on September 12, 2006, 08:19:46 PM

I like to think that if I had a loved one get injured or killed, five years later I would have come to terms with it and made my peace. Remembering a loved one is a personal thing, not a media event. What really bothers me is how people are using the death of these civilians to justify ongoing war. Personally, if *I* ever get murdered, I don't want people using my death to push for things that I never believed in the first place.

It sickens me to see people getting upset that others aren't as fired up as they are about the victims. News flash patriots; the country you claim to love so much believes in free speech. You don't have to like the apathy of others, but you have to respect their views, else you're just a tyrant yourself.

I really hate patriotic hypocrits. If these people would stop blindly waving their flags and learn what the flag stands for, maybe this country would be a more peaceful place, and maybe less people around the world would hate us. But no. America has been on top for a while, but it's gone completely to our heads. The rest of the world won't stand still and play our games if we're going to be jerks.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 12, 2006, 08:23:43 PM

America HAX. No country gets the Red Planet key without defeating the Golem on level 5. HE'S NEVER BEEN TO LEVEL 4.

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Post by: Grandy on September 12, 2006, 11:14:12 PM

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Afghanistan is changing for the better in some parts. It was on the news yesterday; they got proper buildings, a TV station with a female newscaster, MTV like shows, women don't need to wrap their faces up in burqas, a mall, paved roads... there are a lot of things going for that place. However, there is some places that are still unfortunate. America can't be everywhere at once.

 I'll have us to go up there and make you dance our "pagode", then pick a few people who enjoyed that and announce it to the world.
 While you suffer. You suffer with the awful, awful lyrics we have.

 I think this thread is changing in another Bush/War is right/wrong debates we all oh so hate.

 BUT WHO CARES?!

 Regarding my opinion to the "People using 9/11 as an excuse" all I have to say is:
 There was a Tsunami, as much, if not more, people died. Do you know what date is that? If not, don't make us remember the date when you lost something.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 12, 2006, 11:27:20 PM

But a tsunami is what is known as an 'act of God', its not a deliberate attack by one group of people on another people with the sole purpose to kill as many as you can. A tsunami just happens. Flying a f***ing plane into a building is planned.

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Post by: Black Massacre on September 12, 2006, 11:30:28 PM

I don't think its a day i would want to remember.  :jumpin: I really don't care for 9/11, there wasn't anyone of my family killed, but i do feel sorry for the families that did have a loved one killed.  :guns:  :frag:  :para: terrorists



I'd like to remember 7/11, i always have free coupons for slurpies.  :corn:

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Post by: Cosmos on September 12, 2006, 11:49:52 PM

And there was katrina... those things aren't ever going to be as IMPORTANT as 9/11 was. The world trade center was important because of what it did, not who was in it. It's just another symbol of power *shrugs* To be honest, I don't even know why americans are in Iraq. Make peace? Get oil? Get revenge? Distract people from what's happening on the inside? All I've got to say is... VOTE CLINTON!! <.<  >:

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Post by: Apex on September 12, 2006, 11:50:27 PM

I am shocked that you are supprised at all...

We humans have such a short attention span...

Nobody really cares any more.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 12, 2006, 11:56:30 PM

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And there was katrina... those things aren't ever going to be as IMPORTANT as 9/11 was. The world trade center was important because of what it did, not who was in it. It's just another symbol of power *shrugs* To be honest, I don't even know why americans are in Iraq. Make peace? Get oil? Get revenge? Distract people from what's happening on the inside? All I've got to say is... VOTE CLINTON!! <.<  >:

Thats JUST what I want. A whiney whore who was willing to wipe clean her husband f***ing an intern just so she could keep money coming in. If its gonna be a girl on girl election... Condi Rice, yeah.

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Post by: charaman on September 13, 2006, 12:02:04 AM

The U.S. is like a guy with a tiny dick. It compensated with nukes, and now it acts like every ***hole with a hummer out there, you know, bully everyone who they disagree with around.





Enough said.

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Post by: Apex on September 13, 2006, 12:04:13 AM

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Originally posted by Midnight And there was katrina... those things aren't ever going to be as IMPORTANT as 9/11 was. The world trade center was important because of what it did, not who was in it. It's just another symbol of power *shrugs* To be honest, I don't even know why americans are in Iraq. Make peace? Get oil? Get revenge? Distract people from what's happening on the inside? All I've got to say is... VOTE CLINTON!! <.<  >:

Thats JUST what I want. A whiney ***** who was willing to wipe clean her husband f***ing an intern just so she could keep money coming in. If its gonna be a girl on girl election... Condi Rice, yeah.

You deserve death.

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Post by: Cosmos on September 13, 2006, 12:22:30 AM

Apex, hush. <.< Rumor has it that one day Diddy is gonna run for president.. and ppl want Oprah to run as well.. We're going to hell..  :dry:  

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 13, 2006, 12:43:21 AM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich quote: Originally posted by Midnight And there was katrina... those things aren't ever going to be as IMPORTANT as 9/11 was. The world trade center was important because of what it did, not who was in it. It's just another symbol of power *shrugs* To be honest, I don't even know why americans are in Iraq. Make peace? Get oil? Get revenge? Distract people from what's happening on the inside? All I've got to say is... VOTE CLINTON!! <.<  >: Thats JUST what I want. A whiney ***** who was willing to wipe clean her husband f***ing an intern just so she could keep money coming in. If its gonna be a girl on girl election... Condi Rice, yeah.

You deserve death.

Oh god, my political opinion differs from your! Thats perfect grounds to condemn me for death! Communist.

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Post by: Black Massacre on September 13, 2006, 01:09:39 AM

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You deserve death.

You deserve your eyes gouged out, your hands cut off, your toenails ingrown, your spine broken, your neck snapped, your head smashed, 40 lashes +1 and i could go on but that would get me banned.  :jest:


I'd like to see Oprah president.  :flower:



 :frag: U.S.A. then.

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Post by: MrMister on September 13, 2006, 01:48:07 AM

Condi Rice is ugly. More ugly than George Dubya. Not saying Dubya is man pretty or anything.. cause he does have a monkey-like quality.. but she's too ugly to be president. And look at TAFT. If Taft was president, and you're too ugly to be president.. ouch.



Taft.. sonofabitch.

Anyways..
They shot those lasers up in the air from where the towers were.
Pretty lame.
The victim's families are just having a big suckandfuck festival every year now? ****.

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Post by: Razor on September 13, 2006, 04:26:43 AM

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Originally posted by Razor Afghanistan is changing for the better in some parts. It was on the news yesterday; they got proper buildings, a TV station with a female newscaster, MTV like shows, women don't need to wrap their faces up in burqas, a mall, paved roads... there are a lot of things going for that place. However, there is some places that are still unfortunate. America can't be everywhere at once.

 I'll have us to go up there and make you dance our "pagode", then pick a few people who enjoyed that and announce it to the world.
 While you suffer. You suffer with the awful, awful lyrics we have.

 I think this thread is changing in another Bush/War is right/wrong debates we all oh so hate.

 BUT WHO CARES?!

 Regarding my opinion to the "People using 9/11 as an excuse" all I have to say is:
 There was a Tsunami, as much, if not more, people died. Do you know what date is that? If not, don't make us remember the date when you lost something.

Why did you quote me? What did that have to do with what you said. What DID you say?  :eyes:

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Post by: Drace on September 13, 2006, 05:15:54 AM

To Razor and Sammich:

Sure, America has done good things for the country, but they've also done bad things to it. And yes, Afghanistan was a pisshole before America came there. But America bombing the little **** they had didn't really help out, did it?

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Post by: Grandy on September 13, 2006, 08:24:48 PM

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I am shocked that you are supprised at all...

We humans have such a short attention span...

Nobody really cares any more.

 Apparently the brazillian media does.

 

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Why did you quote me? What did that have to do with what you said. What DID you say?

 I said introducing new ideas to a already definated culture may be good to some, but the ones who liked it in the old way won't like it. Let me give you a better example: What if the original natives from brazil here attacked your country and after that made everyone walk around naked, like they did? Sure, it MAY be fun, but lot's of people would complain.

 

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Post by: Razor on September 13, 2006, 08:46:06 PM

So when by "us" you mean "Brazil" and "go up there" you mean "travel half way down the world and go down a little bit".

And you wonder why I was confused.

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Post by: EXO Muffin on September 16, 2006, 06:09:29 AM

Well! It's really horrible to see how different Bush is than Washington...America was supposed to be about freedom for all; not taking over the world with their,"correct," or,"moral," beliefs(Which is completely hypocritical; it's trying to make all people,"free."). Heh; this gives me an idea for a comic; a Russian recently came to America. He yells,"Capitalist!"

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 16, 2006, 06:35:28 AM

When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too.

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Post by: Drace on September 16, 2006, 07:42:59 AM

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When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too.

Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 16, 2006, 07:44:30 AM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too.

Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century.

The 'shitting its pants' meant it was just formed. Stop trying to make some 'witty' anti-american statement

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Post by: Drace on September 16, 2006, 10:05:16 AM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century.

The 'shitting its pants' meant it was just formed. Stop trying to make some 'witty' anti-american statement

Only telling the truth.

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Post by: SonicChaos7 on September 16, 2006, 12:51:42 PM

Not to sound like a jackass but... I think this topic was created simply to get this type of argument going. Next time, just don't say anything if you don't actually care.

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Post by: Ace of Spades on September 16, 2006, 01:32:00 PM

Pff, this so called "war" isn't even a war. In war, there are casualties. In war, places are bombed daily, to send a message. In war, we don't walk around like little pussies and then get shot by friggin terrorists who dress up as civilians. It's Vietnam all over again. It's not a war, it's a politically correct "fight." If it were a war, it would've been over 3 years ago, because we would've bombed the hell out of everyone there and they would've been sick of it and finally gave up. And I'm not saying nuclear war, just bombs. The kind of bombs that go boom all over the place. But noooo, let's be politically correct and get more people killed. If America actually DID want to send them the right message, they would do this. But to the Islamic radicalists, it's nothing.

And if Hilary Clinton becomes president, I'm moving to Canada.

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Post by: Archem on September 16, 2006, 02:13:24 PM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too.

Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century.

Hate-country? As in people hate us, or as in we hate people? Because I'd say we're more like the preliminary statement, nobody I know or have heard about truly hates anybody, since the government failed to effectively brainwash us. Sadly, ignorance shines through, and the stupidest people are the ones who get the most air-time. Thus the belief that we hate everyone, or stupid people talk the most and ruin or rap. And I hate rap.

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Post by: Grandy on September 16, 2006, 02:15:24 PM

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So when by "us" you mean "Brazil" and "go up there" you mean "travel half way down the world and go down a little bit".

And you wonder why I was confused.

 Us here use "Go up there" for going at any location that isn't our home. "I'll go up there at our neighbor." "I'll go up there at the aparment below us to complain."

 

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Not to sound like a jackass but... I think this topic was created simply to get this type of argument going. Next time, just don't say anything if you don't actually care.

 Believe me, my intent was just to point out something.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 16, 2006, 03:59:09 PM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century.

Hate-country? As in people hate us, or as in we hate people? Because I'd say we're more like the preliminary statement, nobody I know or have heard about truly hates anybody, since the government failed to effectively brainwash us. Sadly, ignorance shines through, and the stupidest people are the ones who get the most air-time. Thus the belief that we hate everyone, or stupid people talk the most and ruin or rap. And I hate rap.

Again an old saying, "Squeky wheel gets the grease".

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Post by: Drace on September 17, 2006, 10:15:53 AM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century.

Hate-country? As in people hate us, or as in we hate people?

As in people hating the USA. Jeeze, think before writing stuff.

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Post by: Razor on September 17, 2006, 07:29:41 PM

Drace, are you quite done with your America-hate?

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 17, 2006, 07:40:02 PM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich quote: Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century. The 'shitting its pants' meant it was just formed. Stop trying to make some 'witty' anti-american statement

Only telling the truth.

You're just mad because no one gives a shit about Holland.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 17, 2006, 07:42:25 PM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich quote: Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century. The 'shitting its pants' meant it was just formed. Stop trying to make some 'witty' anti-american statement Only telling the truth.

Your just mad because no one gives a shit about Holland.

Holl-what now?

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Post by: Drace on September 17, 2006, 08:02:24 PM

Razor: Perhaps.

Rev and Sammich: Holland > USA.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 17, 2006, 08:20:49 PM

What does Holland have that is minutely significant? Clogs?

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Post by: Razor on September 17, 2006, 08:24:20 PM

I'd prefer to look at all the awesome things America has done.
Spore, for example.

And all those other great non-Japanese games.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 17, 2006, 08:30:03 PM

And the computer.

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Post by: Razor on September 17, 2006, 08:36:31 PM

While we're there, the internet too! And the TV.
Hell. A lot of awesome ****. Lightbulb. Batman. List goes on.

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Post by: Drace on September 17, 2006, 08:41:37 PM

Amsterdam, the sex capital of Europe.
Legal weed.
Wooden shoes.
Doggy style sex.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 17, 2006, 08:54:14 PM

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Amsterdam, the sex capital of Europe.
Legal weed.
Wooden shoes.
Doggy style sex.

I can find all that in Manhatten. Infact I could probably find MORE weed. MORE shoes. And MORE sex.

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Post by: Kinslayer on September 17, 2006, 08:56:00 PM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich quote: Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century. The 'shitting its pants' meant it was just formed. Stop trying to make some 'witty' anti-american statement Only telling the truth.

You're just mad because no one gives a shit about Holland.

It's been a while since I last posted, I decided to take a little tour and saw this thread... I can't just sit down and say nothing.




The US people (since I'm proud of being a true American, and by American I talk about the continent accidentally discovered by Cristóbal Colón at 1492, and named after Americo Vespucio, who actually discovered that it was a different continent, not a country with some kind of psychotic desire of being God) should realize the pain that their leaders have caused to the entire world with their egoistycal politics.



"You're just mad because no one gives a shit about Holland" that's a WHOLE lot of crap.

First of all, countries like Holland, mine or any country that the US has "willed to help" have become only little puppets for their economycal opression. The US makes divides the world in "friend" or "foe" depending on the gaining that it will earn.
For example, Afghanistan is now an enemy, but it used to be an ally when they had to figh against tha Soviets, Iraq and Saddam Hussein where allies when they had to fight the Ayatollah, then, them both became enemies, since the economical gaining would be good... for the enterprises that manage the war, no one can deny that.

Second, the US gains itself enemies among other nations because of the economical pressure in which the international orgs. (International Monetary Fund, World Bank, etcetera, which are all tools of the US gov. that can be easily prooved, since the US has got the biggest international debt and has to pay nothing to those orgs.) put these countries.

I fear that anytime, the US could consider my country a "fret to international security, because the hide WMD, and since we consider ourselves to be holy, we can have WMD and they can't duh" and invade us, anyone who lives at the Third World fears that.

And if nobody cares about a country like (taking the example named before) Holland, it's because Holland isn't the country that kills thousands of innocents and mourns the death of two soldiers (soldiers to me are nothing but murderers with permission) day by day, and hasn't got the power to destroy the world three times (yes, THREE TIMES) with it's weapon power.

Bush should say "We have WMD, we are menacing international security... let's invade ourselves!"

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 17, 2006, 09:08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Revolution911 quote: Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich quote: Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich When Washington was president America was still shitting its pants with no plans for the future too. Now the gouverment has shitted on America and made it a hate-county like Germany in the early 20th century. The 'shitting its pants' meant it was just formed. Stop trying to make some 'witty' anti-american statement Only telling the truth. You're just mad because no one gives a shit about Holland.

It's been a while since I last posted, I decided to take a little tour and saw this thread... I can't just sit down and say nothing.




The US people (since I'm proud of being a true American, and by American I talk about the continent accidentally discovered by Cristóbal Colón at 1492, and named after Americo Vespucio, who actually discovered that it was a different continent, not a country with some kind of psychotic desire of being God) should realize the pain that their leaders have caused to the entire world with their egoistycal politics.



"You're just mad because no one gives a shit about Holland" that's a WHOLE lot of crap.

First of all, countries like Holland, mine or any country that the US has "willed to help" have become only little puppets for their economycal opression. The US makes divides the world in "friend" or "foe" depending on the gaining that it will earn.
For example, Afghanistan is now an enemy, but it used to be an ally when they had to figh against tha Soviets, Iraq and Saddam Hussein where allies when they had to fight the Ayatollah, then, them both became enemies, since the economical gaining would be good... for the enterprises that manage the war, no one can deny that.

Second, the US gains itself enemies among other nations because of the economical pressure in which the international orgs. (International Monetary Fund, World Bank, etcetera, which are all tools of the US gov. that can be easily prooved, since the US has got the biggest international debt and has to pay nothing to those orgs.) put these countries.

I fear that anytime, the US could consider my country a "fret to international security, because the hide WMD, and since we consider ourselves to be holy, we can have WMD and they can't duh" and invade us, anyone who lives at the Third World fears that.

And if nobody cares about a country like (taking the example named before) Holland, it's because Holland isn't the country that kills thousands of innocents and mourns the death of two soldiers (soldiers to me are nothing but murderers with permission) day by day, and hasn't got the power to destroy the world three times (yes, THREE TIMES) with it's weapon power.

Bush should say "We have WMD, we are menacing international security... let's invade ourselves!"

Argentina? What? Never heard of it.

It seems your smart enough to make yourself look smart, but not smart enough to understand the joke. GO WEAR SOME WOODEN SHOES.

EDIT: And if you think I actually read that, you're out of your fucking MIND.

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GO WEAR SOME WOODEN SHOES.

Someone  might get mad at that... but XD!!!!!!!!! WOODEN SHOES!!!!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!


I didn't make myself clear, I GOT the joke, but used it for my speech :p "the end justifies the means (not sure I translated that right)".

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 17, 2006, 09:28:00 PM

Everyone says they hate us, but they don't do anything about it. Hm, I wonder why?

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Post by: Grandy on September 17, 2006, 09:31:01 PM

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I'd prefer to look at all the awesome things America has done.
Spore, for example.

And all those other great non-Japanese games.

 Pff. Non-japanese games, that's crazy talk!

 And really people, drop it. The only person ho can convince other person to chance their minds about something polemical in the internet is ME! And even so, only against Drace in the euthanazia matter.

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Everyone says they hate us, but they don't do anything about it. Hm, I wonder why?

*coughPUSSIEScough*

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Post by: Drace on September 18, 2006, 02:43:54 AM

Rev could you take it easy ffs. You´re annyoing hell outa me. You´re like a Jack Russel ****ing Terrier on XTC and Speed.

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Rev could you take it easy ffs. You´re annyoing hell outa me. You´re like a Jack Russel ******* Terrier on XTC and Speed.

The irony, it kills me hard.

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Everyone says they hate us, but they don't do anything about it. Hm, I wonder why?

Imagine you hate someone, but that someone can blow the hell oput of ya with a nuclear bomb, and your only weapon available is... well, nothing. It's easy to say that no one will do anything, since the US has the nuclear weapons.

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 18, 2006, 03:35:50 PM

The funniest person here is Razor, who is Australian. Therefore Australia pwns j00 all. Escpecially America. That is all.

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The funniest person here is Razor, who is Australian. Therefore Australia pwns j00 all. Escpecially America. That is all.

STEEEEVEEEE IIIIIIRWIIIIINNNNN!!!!!

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The funniest person here is Razor, who is Australian. Therefore Australia pwns j00 all. Escpecially America. That is all.

Aww shucks. :blush:  Now I've got crap to live up to.

...crap.  :|

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Rev could you take it easy ffs. You´re annyoing hell outa me. You´re like a Jack Russel ******* Terrier on XTC and Speed.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. TAKE IT EASY HE SAYS. ROFL. YEAH RIGHT.

Btw I actually have a Jack Russel as a dog. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Notice how I type out my laugh to emphasize my rofl.  I dont calm down, Dracey-boy. Being calm is for squares.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 18, 2006, 10:55:33 PM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich Everyone says they hate us, but they don't do anything about it. Hm, I wonder why?

Imagine you hate someone, but that someone can blow the hell oput of ya with a nuclear bomb, and your only weapon available is... well, nothing. It's easy to say that no one will do anything, since the US has the nuclear weapons.

Here's a question: Have we ever used nukes in combat? No, we used TWO atom bomnbs back in 1945. Did we use nukes back in the 60's during the Cold War? Of course not, why? Because we don't want to use them. Every country in the world can see that.

Do you know why they don't attack us? Because of one simple thing: Our money roxxorz their soxxorz. The US dollar has been the most valued currency for years. If they go to war with America, that means that their countries would lose export and import rights to us, and that would have a MAJOR economic effect on themselves.

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Post by: Grandy on September 18, 2006, 11:04:24 PM

 Cuba.

 And really, you think your country doesn't want to use the nukes? Then destroy them. You even signed a contract saying you would, and you say you want to, then do it.

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Cuba.

 And really, you think your country doesn't want to use the nukes? Then destroy them. You even signed a contract saying you would, and you say you want to, then do it.

You are awesome man. JUST ****ing AWESOME.

And listen to yourself: "we used only TWO!!" but you are the only ones who used nukes so far. Money is not a living thing, humans are, and if the dollar is pwned, a new coin of exchange will be made by economysts. It's that simple.

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Post by: Tomi on September 19, 2006, 12:00:09 AM

We used 2 A-Bombs, not any Nukes.  And if the US were to pull out of the UN, the UN would pretty much implode (or explode, either way) because of how much money the US puts into helping other countries, whether you like to admit it or not.  And why not destroy the nukes?  It's pretty much insurance, and it keeps potentially hostle countries at bay, because they don't want to get nuked. However, thats not really working today because they know the US won't drop nukes on them because of the innocent they hide themselves among.  

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We used 2 A-Bombs, not any Nukes.  And if the US were to pull out of the UN, the UN would pretty much implode (or explode, either way) because of how much money the US puts into helping other countries, whether you like to admit it or not.  And why not destroy the nukes?  It's pretty much insurance, and it keeps potentially hostle countries at bay, because they don't want to get nuked. However, thats not really working today because they know the US won't drop nukes on them because of the innocent they hide themselves among.  

First: The US can't pull out of the UN becuase they ARE the UN.

Second: It doesn't matter. You are the only ones using nuclear power against the civilians, and you have no authority to tell other countries to not have them, since you are a bigger fret than any terrorist.

Third: Innocents they hide among? The US has killed BABYS while the airbombings at Iraq. The nuclear bombs at 1945 were thrown against civilian cities, not militar bases. The US doesn't consider the innocent ones.

Fourth: The US puts money to help the countries that are allied to them. There was a lot of US money around here at the 1970's with the militar dictature that the USA's government financed economically, not to mention the fact that the US supported those dictatures knowing that people werte being killed. The money left when the dictature left. Simple.

You want more facts? Stop babbling about how the US "helps" the world and see what the US government really does to the world. It's the country that contaminates the most, the country that has caused the fiorst war at the 21st Century, and it's the country that constantly pisses off the Third World, just becuase it has more money.

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And why not destroy the nukes? It's pretty much insurance, and it keeps potentially hostle countries at bay, because they don't want to get nuked.

 So we've come back to what Kinslayer was saying:
 "We keep the bombs to make ya'll shut yer mouths."

 I'm sorry, blame the media, but I can't really picture any country, ANY country, thinking twice about lauching a nuke to save a few that'd explode with it. Brazil included. ESPECIALLY Brazil. We'd rape you all if we had the chance, believe me.

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Originally posted by Tomi We used 2 A-Bombs, not any Nukes.  And if the US were to pull out of the UN, the UN would pretty much implode (or explode, either way) because of how much money the US puts into helping other countries, whether you like to admit it or not.  And why not destroy the nukes?  It's pretty much insurance, and it keeps potentially hostle countries at bay, because they don't want to get nuked. However, thats not really working today because they know the US won't drop nukes on them because of the innocent they hide themselves among.

First: The US can't pull out of the UN becuase they ARE the UN.

Second: It doesn't matter. You are the only ones using nuclear power against the civilians, and you have no authority to tell other countries to not have them, since you are a bigger fret than any terrorist.

Third: Innocents they hide among? The US has killed BABYS while the airbombings at Iraq. The nuclear bombs at 1945 were thrown against civilian cities, not militar bases. The US doesn't consider the innocent ones.

Fourth: The US puts money to help the countries that are allied to them. There was a lot of US money around here at the 1970's with the militar dictature that the USA's government financed economically, not to mention the fact that the US supported those dictatures knowing that people werte being killed. The money left when the dictature left. Simple.

You want more facts? Stop babbling about how the US "helps" the world and see what the US government really does to the world. It's the country that contaminates the most, the country that has caused the fiorst war at the 21st Century, and it's the country that constantly pisses off the Third World, just becuase it has more money.

Started the first world war i don't think so.

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Originally posted by Kinslayer quote: Originally posted by Tomi We used 2 A-Bombs, not any Nukes.  And if the US were to pull out of the UN, the UN would pretty much implode (or explode, either way) because of how much money the US puts into helping other countries, whether you like to admit it or not.  And why not destroy the nukes?  It's pretty much insurance, and it keeps potentially hostle countries at bay, because they don't want to get nuked. However, thats not really working today because they know the US won't drop nukes on them because of the innocent they hide themselves among.   First: The US can't pull out of the UN becuase they ARE the UN. Second: It doesn't matter. You are the only ones using nuclear power against the civilians, and you have no authority to tell other countries to not have them, since you are a bigger fret than any terrorist. Third: Innocents they hide among? The US has killed BABYS while the airbombings at Iraq. The nuclear bombs at 1945 were thrown against civilian cities, not militar bases. The US doesn't consider the innocent ones. Fourth: The US puts money to help the countries that are allied to them. There was a lot of US money around here at the 1970's with the militar dictature that the USA's government financed economically, not to mention the fact that the US supported those dictatures knowing that people werte being killed. The money left when the dictature left. Simple. You want more facts? Stop babbling about how the US "helps" the world and see what the US government really does to the world. It's the country that contaminates the most, the country that has caused the fiorst war at the 21st Century, and it's the country that constantly pisses off the Third World, just becuase it has more money.

Started the first world war i don't think so.

Read well... who said ANYTHING about WW! o_O?

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.... There has only been 6 years of the 21st century.

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Originally posted by Black Massacre quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer the country that has caused the fiorst war at the 21st Century

.... There has only been 6 years of the 21st century.

WWI
WWII
Vietnam
Korea
Some other one in Africa?
Some other one in the middle-eastern?

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Post by: SonicChaos7 on September 19, 2006, 05:43:24 PM

If the Third World people hate the US so much, why the **** do they come running to the US to find a better life? You hate us so much yet you don't exactly understand the fabrications of war and the governmental decisions behind them. I don't understand it all either, none of us do unless we're actually making the decisions. And don't give me the bullshit that you guys could do better than Bush. Politics is more complicated than we see it.

A lot of you guys say the whole Iraq war was stupid and a ploy for oil. Maybe true, but Saddam was no friendly man either. He gassed his own people and used biochemical **** on his own people. Maybe not exactly WMD's, but still, he's a crazy freak. There were other things going on that we don't know. Stop acting like YOUR justice is absolute and that YOU know how the world should work and that we should forfeit **** in order for you guys to be happy. If you want to be happy and live peaceful lives, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOURSELF. Don't give me bullshit that there's nothing you can do to change things in your country. Things can be changed. William Wallace anyone?

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Post by: Grandy on September 19, 2006, 06:45:20 PM

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If the Third World people hate the US so much, why the **** do they come running to the US to find a better life?

 Speak for yourself. I, for one, wouldn't live in your country unless my life was at risk.

 

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A lot of you guys say the whole Iraq war was stupid and a ploy for oil. Maybe true, but Saddam was no friendly man either.

 No one here said he was.

 

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There were other things going on that we don't know.

 
 Therefore you have no right to use them as an argument.

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Stop acting like YOUR justice is absolute and that YOU know how the world should work and that we should forfeit **** in order for you guys to be happy.

 I could throw that back to you.

 

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If you want to be happy and live peaceful lives, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOURSELF. Don't give me ******** that there's nothing you can do to change things in your country.[/B]

 Oh, I'm doing my part, believe me, even though other people don't. That, however, won't change the fact that there is war.

 You try and understand: I don't hate the U.S., I hate war. And, want you or not, U.S. started it, and still suports it.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 19, 2006, 07:26:32 PM

The funniest part is, half the world hates us, but we just dont give a shit. Looking at you, Grandy and Drace. FUCK SOCCER.

And about that whole world war thing, fuck that too, I STARTED THE FIRST WAR OF THE 21ST CENTURY.


I, personally dont even like my country, but hell I'll defend it.

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Post by: SonicChaos7 on September 19, 2006, 07:32:04 PM

Hardly anyone in the United States supports it anymore.

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Post by: Grandy on September 19, 2006, 08:11:32 PM

 I'm talking about the government. You people are the first to point you that the government does things not you, but when I talk about the government you act as if it was you.

 Rev - I don't like soccer, anyway. And that behave just shows how much of a **** you give to what we think.

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Post by: Razor on September 19, 2006, 08:20:22 PM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich quote: Originally posted by Black Massacre quote: Originally posted by Kinslayer the country that has caused the fiorst war at the 21st Century .... There has only been 6 years of the 21st century.

WWI
WWII
Vietnam
Korea
Some other one in Africa?
Some other one in the middle-eastern?

Yeah. None of those were made in the 21st century. They were all made in 19XX. Not 2000+

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Post by: Cosmos on September 19, 2006, 08:36:39 PM

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Here's a question: Have we ever used nukes in combat? No, we used TWO atom bomnbs back in 1945. Did we use nukes back in the 60's during the Cold War? Of course not, why? Because we don't want to use them. Every country in the world can see that.

Do you know why they don't attack us? Because of one simple thing: Our money roxxorz their soxxorz. The US dollar has been the most valued currency for years. If they go to war with America, that means that their countries would lose export and import rights to us, and that would have a MAJOR economic effect on themselves.

Kir dear, that's wrong.. The atom bomb is still considered a nuke. :p Also, you lot seem to be forgetting that America is not the only country who has nukes. There is S.U. (who had it during the cold war), I believe China hinted that they have some, and possibly North Korea and some other places. If during the cold war America used a nuke on S.U. they would've hit us back with one of their own, that would've been a serious problem.

Also, about the american dollar.. I had sometime in the future the value of the american dollar is gonna go down and it will eventually be worthless.. Pretty suckie..

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And really, you think your country doesn't want to use the nukes? Then destroy them. You even signed a contract saying you would, and you say you want to, then do it.

I dun think it would be easy to destroy a nuke. Where would you be able to put the remains of it? You can't burn it, because that will just pollute the air (worse then it is now) and you can't just leave it around to sit somewhere.. To top that off, america has a lot of enemies so even if the government wanted to (which I doubt they do) they can't get rid of the nukes. Some place like Iraq (I heard they have nukes, but who knows) can easly take advantage. *shrugs* Just some thoughts..

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 19, 2006, 08:40:51 PM

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I'm talking about the government. You people are the first to point you that the government does things not you, but when I talk about the government you act as if it was you.

 Rev - I don't like soccer, anyway. And that behave just shows how much of a **** you give to what we think.

That was the point. The entire point of that post was to tell all of you America could give two shits about what you people think of it. Hence making all this bitching and moaing pointless.

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Post by: Grandy on September 19, 2006, 10:10:41 PM

No, no, I meant to say that you care, while you said you don't.

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich Here's a question: Have we ever used nukes in combat? No, we used TWO atom bomnbs back in 1945. Did we use nukes back in the 60's during the Cold War? Of course not, why? Because we don't want to use them. Every country in the world can see that. Do you know why they don't attack us? Because of one simple thing: Our money roxxorz their soxxorz. The US dollar has been the most valued currency for years. If they go to war with America, that means that their countries would lose export and import rights to us, and that would have a MAJOR economic effect on themselves.

Kir dear, that's wrong.. The atom bomb is still considered a nuke. :p Also, you lot seem to be forgetting that America is not the only country who has nukes. There is S.U. (who had it during the cold war), I believe China hinted that they have some, and possibly North Korea and some other places. If during the cold war America used a nuke on S.U. they would've hit us back with one of their own, that would've been a serious problem.

Also, about the american dollar.. I had sometime in the future the value of the american dollar is gonna go down and it will eventually be worthless.. Pretty suckie..

They may be nuclear level weapons, but the A-Bomb is weaker than a modern enriched weapons grade plutomium missle, and then the H-Bomb fits inbetween the two. They all vaporize anything, but they are all effective in different levels.

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Ooo........

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 19, 2006, 10:49:40 PM

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No, no, I meant to say that you care, while you said you don't.

If I really cared as much as you say, I wouldent have generalized you're entire country by saying they all like soccer. Thus supporting my "America Could Care less" thing.  And just think, if we dont care about soccer, imagine how much we dont care about your opinions towards our country. YOUR PLANS HAVE BEEN FOILED, SIR.

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Post by: Cosmos on September 19, 2006, 11:29:09 PM

Not really Rev.. by answering him shows him that you care a little bit.  :jest:

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 19, 2006, 11:37:18 PM

Well obviously. I think you're all REALLY missing the point. EVERYONE cares about EVERYTHING to some degree. But Im saying no matter what you say America really wont acknowledge it. You cant just point out small things to try and support an argument thats on a much larger scale. Thats like trying to steal a penny from a hobo when you're a millionare. Is that penny ANYTHING compared to your fortune? No. *Pets Mid*

NICE TRY, BUT YET AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST.

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Post by: Kinslayer on September 20, 2006, 12:03:59 AM

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If the Third World people hate the US so much, why the **** do they come running to the US to find a better life? You hate us so much yet you don't exactly understand the fabrications of war and the governmental decisions behind them. I don't understand it all either, none of us do unless we're actually making the decisions. And don't give me the ******** that you guys could do better than Bush. Politics is more complicated than we see it.

A lot of you guys say the whole Iraq war was stupid and a ploy for oil. Maybe true, but Saddam was no friendly man either. He gassed his own people and used biochemical **** on his own people. Maybe not exactly WMD's, but still, he's a crazy freak. There were other things going on that we don't know. Stop acting like YOUR justice is absolute and that YOU know how the world should work and that we should forfeit **** in order for you guys to be happy. If you want to be happy and live peaceful lives, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOURSELF. Don't give me ******** that there's nothing you can do to change things in your country. Things can be changed. William Wallace anyone?

That's what you think. There are cowards and traitors everywhere, and THOSE go to your country. Most of us have pride and stay home, so don't gimme that **** of you guys being saviors or anything, don't treat us like animals just because we aren't as rich or powerful as you.

Besides, my justice isn't absolute, the only absolute I do believe in is God.

I try to live a peaceful life, but your gorvrnment won't let me. Your gorvernment used funds to create the dictatures here and to depose gorvernments (bah, only Illia's one, Perón was a neonazi) that were actually helping the country.

Who said Saddam was good here (suporting what Grandy said)?
You stated that on  your own, I don't believe in the "Hollywood world" that some people believe in. The World hasn't got "good" or "bad" like some cowboy president says, to me it only has the bad and the badder.

Politics sure are complicated... but that doesn't mean you have to support politics that tear apart other people.

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*bites Rev* Dun touch.  :dry:

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Originally posted by Grandy No, no, I meant to say that you care, while you said you don't.

If I really cared as much as you say, I wouldent have generalized you're entire country by saying they all like soccer. Thus supporting my "America Could Care less" thing.  And just think, if we dont care about soccer, imagine how much we dont care about your opinions towards our country. YOUR PLANS HAVE BEEN FOILED, SIR.

 Meh, go back watching your baseball, then.
 You wouldn't be so mad at me if you didn't care about that.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 20, 2006, 12:46:21 AM

I was actually trying to keep a humerous tone. Hence the foiled plans. I'm not mad o_0. Im trying to say that as much shit you say about America, we just dont give a fuck so....stop America bashing. xD

*Bites Mid* Dont bite.

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Post by: Drace on September 20, 2006, 05:00:39 AM

Sonic: Holland is first world, and by damned, most of the people here hate the US gouverment.

Rev: I agree, soccer sucks. *hugs Baseball and Hockey*

Razor: Oh... Twenty-FIRST, not Twentieth... My bad

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Post by: Grandy on September 20, 2006, 02:06:50 PM

 Well, if you don't give a fuck about what we say, then theres one more reason for us not to stop saying it.

 So THERE

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 20, 2006, 04:05:28 PM

America doesn't care, exactly. Isn't that why everyone hates them?

I don't speak for myself, I'd actually like to move over to America. It's boring over here. :p

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Post by: drenrin2120 on September 20, 2006, 06:10:12 PM

Here's why the war in Iraq is absolutely rediculous.

1.) This war on terrorism is a good idea, I really believe that, but didn't it start in Afghanistan? Where the fuck did Iraq come from?

2.) Our 'reason' for going into Iraq in the first place was for weapon's of mass destruction. Why do ppl seem to forget that even the UN went in and said, "hey, there's really nothing here guys." But did we listen? no? We went to war and I could be wrong, but I think Bush kind of forced the congress into declaring war by deploying troops into Iraq before the official declaration of war.

3.) We went, we saw, we took over, and guess what? No weapons of mass destruction. So, Bush justifies it by saying, "We PWNed the Tyrant!!!11!!11!one".

4.) Of course, the oil. Did we go into Iraq for oil? Probably not, the world is not as ahrd up for oil as the media and oil companies make it seem. But, I'm still not sure and I wouldn't put it by Bush.

and 5.) Taking out Saddam was good, yes, but how we got there is just fucked up in itself.

It's easy to see why the world really fuckin' hates America.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 20, 2006, 07:04:23 PM

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Well, if you don't give a fuck about what we say, then theres one more reason for us not to stop saying it.

 So THERE

WELL JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, WE JUST DONT GIVE A ****, ACTUALLY WE FIND IT FUNNY YOU WASTE YOUR ENERGY ON IT. SO THERE. :3

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Post by: Grandy on September 20, 2006, 07:11:25 PM

OH YEAH THEN I MUST SAY THAT IF YOU LIKE SEEING US WASTING OUR ENERGY IN THAT THEN you're big big meanie.

 Seriously now. No. Caps.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 20, 2006, 07:23:07 PM

...Well....you're a doo doo head >/

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Post by: coreystranick on September 20, 2006, 07:47:51 PM

Actually the reson everyone hates the Us is becasue we help every other country, or atleast try to, but we don't see the corruption and starving millions in our own country.

Plus the war in Iraq is dumb in my opinion. I beleve our troops should fight for our country but it is time to pull out.

1. We started by looking for Osama, we can't find him and we killed many innocent lives in Afganistan.

2. We then went to Iraq to take out Saddam(which wasn't actually all that bad)

3. We tried to find WMD's the he had, but haven't found any.

Now, we were to train Iraq's soliders, and we have. WE should pull out once the Iraq soldiers are well off enough to not use our help. Jsut look at it this way, we are killing more people and more of our soldiers are getting killed total, then the amount that died on 9/11.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 20, 2006, 08:23:56 PM

Meh, I don't really care. If we did pull out, then in 4 more years something would happen, everyone will say what to do, we'll do it, and then everyone will say "WE NEVER SAID THAT!".

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Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 20, 2006, 08:31:50 PM

 Originally Posted by the Sandwich

 

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Meh, I don't really care. If we did pull out, then in 4 more years something would happen, everyone will say what to do, we'll do it, and then everyone will say "WE NEVER SAID THAT!".

Iran.