Originally posted by Midnight
Warxe... the site thread is for things like forums..
Anyways, SCREW PETA. I love animals, but god damn.. They must be destroyed, "omg maybe if we show ppl these horrid videos of animal cruelty they'll stop acting like ppl and eat plants! YEAH!" Like.. wtf? That's like asking a lion not to eat a deer. Just no, and the harassment of celebs. omg that is the most amusing part, some girl threw a pie at an innocent bystander trying to get to someone who uses furs for clothes. Jesus..
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
quote: Originally posted by Midnight
Warxe... the site thread is for things like forums..
Anyways, SCREW PETA. I love animals, but god damn.. They must be destroyed, "omg maybe if we show ppl these horrid videos of animal cruelty they'll stop acting like ppl and eat plants! YEAH!" Like.. wtf? That's like asking a lion not to eat a deer. Just no, and the harassment of celebs. omg that is the most amusing part, some girl threw a pie at an innocent bystander trying to get to someone who uses furs for clothes. Jesus..
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Originally posted by Black Massacre
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-513747926833909134
Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
I hate PETA. I really, really do. If it means I can keep eating meat, I'm all for it. If I EVER go vegetarian, there are 12 people in 4 states that will kill me personally.
Originally posted by Drace
I agree with Al about that part, but that´s mostly because me (and the late Steve RIP) agreed to that too. Endangered species and other wildlife shouldn't be eaten. We make lifestock so we won't eat tigers and gazelles and tasmanian devils.
Also, the video has little effect on me. I'm fully aware of what happends to lifestock. It's cruel, it's mean, it shouldn't be done but it happends. And I like meat. Though, I do support alternative living situations for lifestock. Like in Holland, where they get a nice life outside on the grass at farms before getting slaughtered.
Originally posted by Midnight
<.< >.>.... *coughs* so no turkey for thanksgiving? No bacon with the eggs!? (I dun even like bacon tho XD).. no clothes to warm ya up? Hm.. *shrugs* everythings a resource.. Even people.
PETA sheds no crocodile tears for Steve Irwin
By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 3:52 a.m. ET Sept. 11, 2006
Some animal lovers aren’t shedding any crocodile tears for Steve Irwin.
The Aussie naturalist, known as the Crocodile Hunter, was killed last week by a stingray while filming off the Great Barrier Reef. But the folks at PETA are neither surprised nor upset by his passing.
“It comes as no shock at all that Steve Irwin should die provoking a dangerous animal,” PETA’s Dan Mathews tells The Scoop. “He made a career out of antagonizing frightened wild animals, which is a very dangerous message to send to kids.”
Does Irwin’s career as a naturalist impress the animal-rights group? Says Mathews: “If you compare him with a responsible conservationist like Jacques Cousteau, he looks like a cheap reality TV star.”
Originally posted by Midnight
um... yes? lmao, jk. I don't honeslty remember your first post (Cept the people are bad for the earth part), dun feel like reading it either :p but I dun care much for crocodile, ect. shoes.. I just said some things, like fur, is important. We needs it, *shrugs* PETA likes to go overboard, which is annoying. Look at this..
quote: PETA sheds no crocodile tears for Steve Irwin
By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 3:52 a.m. ET Sept. 11, 2006
Some animal lovers aren’t shedding any crocodile tears for Steve Irwin.
The Aussie naturalist, known as the Crocodile Hunter, was killed last week by a stingray while filming off the Great Barrier Reef. But the folks at PETA are neither surprised nor upset by his passing.
“It comes as no shock at all that Steve Irwin should die provoking a dangerous animal,” PETA’s Dan Mathews tells The Scoop. “He made a career out of antagonizing frightened wild animals, which is a very dangerous message to send to kids.”
Does Irwin’s career as a naturalist impress the animal-rights group? Says Mathews: “If you compare him with a responsible conservationist like Jacques Cousteau, he looks like a cheap reality TV star.”
Like wtf? I know I said I found him annoying, but god damn. PETA GO TO HELL! *protests*
Originally posted by Midnight
quote: PETA sheds no crocodile tears for Steve Irwin
By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 3:52 a.m. ET Sept. 11, 2006
Some animal lovers aren’t shedding any crocodile tears for Steve Irwin.
The Aussie naturalist, known as the Crocodile Hunter, was killed last week by a stingray while filming off the Great Barrier Reef. But the folks at PETA are neither surprised nor upset by his passing.
“It comes as no shock at all that Steve Irwin should die provoking a dangerous animal,” PETA’s Dan Mathews tells The Scoop. “He made a career out of antagonizing frightened wild animals, which is a very dangerous message to send to kids.”
Does Irwin’s career as a naturalist impress the animal-rights group? Says Mathews: “If you compare him with a responsible conservationist like Jacques Cousteau, he looks like a cheap reality TV star.”
Like wtf? I know I said I found him annoying, but god damn. PETA GO TO HELL! *protests*
Originally posted by Midnight
Almei, what the heck crawled up your ***? I did not disrepect you, so please do not come out of character towards me.
Originally posted by Meiscool
quote: Originally posted by Midnight
quote: PETA sheds no crocodile tears for Steve Irwin
By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 3:52 a.m. ET Sept. 11, 2006
Some animal lovers aren’t shedding any crocodile tears for Steve Irwin.
The Aussie naturalist, known as the Crocodile Hunter, was killed last week by a stingray while filming off the Great Barrier Reef. But the folks at PETA are neither surprised nor upset by his passing.
“It comes as no shock at all that Steve Irwin should die provoking a dangerous animal,” PETA’s Dan Mathews tells The Scoop. “He made a career out of antagonizing frightened wild animals, which is a very dangerous message to send to kids.”
Does Irwin’s career as a naturalist impress the animal-rights group? Says Mathews: “If you compare him with a responsible conservationist like Jacques Cousteau, he looks like a cheap reality TV star.”
Like wtf? I know I said I found him annoying, but god damn. PETA GO TO HELL! *protests*
The hell?
Knowing PETA, if I were about to get crushed by a bolder, and a goat was about to get crushed by a bolder, and they could only save one of us, they would save the goat.
How did the goat and I both get stuck under a bolder? Wouldn't you like to know :p
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
EDIT: Meis, sincerely, if I was in the situation you described, and you were the one to be crushed, I´d obviously save the goat.
Originally posted by Meiscool
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
EDIT: Meis, sincerely, if I was in the situation you described, and you were the one to be crushed, I´d obviously save the goat.
Even if the goat was a whore and had 12 STDs including SuperAIDS?
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by Meiscool
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
EDIT: Meis, sincerely, if I was in the situation you described, and you were the one to be crushed, I´d obviously save the goat.
Even if the goat was a whore and had 12 STDs including SuperAIDS?
Well, you got all those too -.- (from the time you were a woman...)
Originally posted by Drace
Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
So, we have principles that construct our moral: killing is wrong. We hear this everyday since we were born. But how different it is to kill a person without a relevant reason (such as surviving) and killing a baby seal, again with a lack of reason? If it is no different, why does people doesn´t see it as a monstruosity? Why is killing defenseless animals, that weren´t given the same gift of thinking okay, and killing murderous and sick humans, wrong?
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
But that´s not really the position we assumed. We have no respect for nature, and we dispose it day by day, not thinking about consequences.
Originally posted by Meiscool
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
So, we have principles that construct our moral: killing is wrong. We hear this everyday since we were born. But how different it is to kill a person without a relevant reason (such as surviving) and killing a baby seal, again with a lack of reason? If it is no different, why does people doesn´t see it as a monstruosity? Why is killing defenseless animals, that weren´t given the same gift of thinking okay, and killing murderous and sick humans, wrong?
First, as the most intellegent of all animals, we humans are on the top of the food chain. This means that we can eat what we want, when we want, and how we want, within our own moral values. If we can't fullfill one of those desires, then we have the intellegence to make tools to use to achive the missing desire. It's highly natural that whats on top will feed off of the bottom.
It's practical, as the top of the ladder normally gets it's support from the bottom.
Originally posted by Midnight
OMG, Almei.. go tell the lion to NOT eat that deer.. I dare you!
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
I´m not religious, so I think that´s wrong too. But seeing how religion get to people's mind and blank it, making them follow orders without even thinking about them, like zombies...I mean, bombing yourself for a heaven full of virgins? You needn´t be such a big boy to figure that out.
Sacrifices, animal or human, suck.
EDIT: Rev, you´re kinda...weird today. You´re like, super mad. Anyway, I agree that full animal liberation is absurd. We have pets because we love them, and protect them from a world they couldn´t manage...alone they´re be killed by cars or something like that.
I´m against using animals for experiences...You see, animals have a way of acting that incompatible with the human nature: they kill the weak, to make the species stronger. We humans do the oposite: we keep the weak, making ourselves weaker. Why? Because when one of us die, we feel pain. And we don´t want to feel pain.
That the wrong thing about medicines. They´re making us weaker. Anyone noticed how many more diseases have been appearing lately? Studies prove that people get flu's and viruses in general much more often than before. That´s because we don´t let our body heal and, if it doesnpt menage to heal, we try to survive, even if weaker.
If humans want to keep this idealogy, of keeping the weaker, he should test his medicines on himself and not on animals.
EDIT2: Rev, the difference in the motivation: the lion actually eats the dear. But does the human eat the alligator or the seal? No. There you go.
Originally posted by Midnight
*skins razor alive* ^_^ I'm gonna eat you, and use your fur for this horrid weather. I'll give your bones to my dog, so NOTHING goes to waste, k? :happy:
Originally posted by Drace
Da Steve topic I had with Al:
Did Steve kill animals? No, he did not. What he did do was to show animals to us in his own, to show how they react to situations and to show us why it's fantastic to have them on this planet. Sure, he might have used them as his circus act, but if that's what it took to save them then let him.
Originally posted by Drace
Da Steve topic I had with Al:
Did Steve kill animals? No, he did not. What he did do was to show animals to us in his own way, to show how they react to situations and to show us why it's fantastic to have them on this planet. Sure, he might have used them as his circus act, but if that's what it took to save them then let him.
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by Drace
Da Steve topic I had with Al:
Did Steve kill animals? No, he did not. What he did do was to show animals to us in his own way, to show how they react to situations and to show us why it's fantastic to have them on this planet. Sure, he might have used them as his circus act, but if that's what it took to save them then let him.
Yeah, he did not kill animals, but he did invade their space. Can you blame the stingray for killing him? It was just swimming around, when the guy came and invaded it´s enviroment.
Steve knew about the risks, so I don´t think that he is sad for dying by such means.
Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by Drace
Da Steve topic I had with Al:
Did Steve kill animals? No, he did not. What he did do was to show animals to us in his own way, to show how they react to situations and to show us why it's fantastic to have them on this planet. Sure, he might have used them as his circus act, but if that's what it took to save them then let him.
Yeah, he did not kill animals, but he did invade their space. Can you blame the stingray for killing him? It was just swimming around, when the guy came and invaded it´s enviroment.
Steve knew about the risks, so I don´t think that he is sad for dying by such means.
No, I don´t blame the Stingray. And "their space"? Seriously, no one has space that's his own on this planet. If you want your neighbours space, you can take it. If the gouverment wants you space, they can take it. If America wants your country, they can take it. If a lion wants our space, he'll try to take it and defend ourselves. If we invade their space, they'll try to take it and defend themselves. What Steve did was invading their so called "space" to show us what the creatures were like so we didn't all invade their space AND kill them.
You like wild animals? Then show some respect to the guy. Steve loved animals, he died doing what he loved and he wouldn't wanted to die another way. He knew he would die one day because of an animal, he knew the risks and yet he took them to help those animals.
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Can you blame the stingray for killing him?
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by Drace
quote: Originally posted by Almeidaboo
quote: Originally posted by Drace
Da Steve topic I had with Al:
Did Steve kill animals? No, he did not. What he did do was to show animals to us in his own way, to show how they react to situations and to show us why it's fantastic to have them on this planet. Sure, he might have used them as his circus act, but if that's what it took to save them then let him.
Yeah, he did not kill animals, but he did invade their space. Can you blame the stingray for killing him? It was just swimming around, when the guy came and invaded it´s enviroment.
Steve knew about the risks, so I don´t think that he is sad for dying by such means.
No, I don´t blame the Stingray. And "their space"? Seriously, no one has space that's his own on this planet. If you want your neighbours space, you can take it. If the gouverment wants you space, they can take it. If America wants your country, they can take it. If a lion wants our space, he'll try to take it and defend ourselves. If we invade their space, they'll try to take it and defend themselves. What Steve did was invading their so called "space" to show us what the creatures were like so we didn't all invade their space AND kill them.
You like wild animals? Then show some respect to the guy. Steve loved animals, he died doing what he loved and he wouldn't wanted to die another way. He knew he would die one day because of an animal, he knew the risks and yet he took them to help those animals.
As much as "space" is relative to the point that anyone can, anytime, ocupy someone's space, you have to admit: people dwell in the surface, stingrays in the water. The guy entered the stingray's dwelling place and even "provoked" the animal. Well, he should expect that to happen right? The stingray was just defending against what it took for a threat.
I respect wild animals. And I said before: Steve is probably not sad because of the way he died, he´s probably happy.
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Maybe I said it wrong: I think he´s happy cause he died doing what he loved in his life, not because it´s funny to be killed by irrational beings _sweat_
Originally posted by Almeidaboo
I gotta say...I´m so confused right now. :blue-eye:
Anyway, I CAN respect his good deeds.