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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Apex on September 14, 2006, 11:08:05 AM

Title: Wii information
Post by: Apex on September 14, 2006, 11:08:05 AM

http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732669p1.html (http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732669p1.html)

Release Date: November 19th
Price: $250 (US currency.)
Come bundled with: Wii sports, One remote with nunchuck, the sensor bar and a stand for it, and an AC power plug-in for the Controller.

YEAH!

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Post by: Razor on September 14, 2006, 11:15:07 AM

Stupid URL bug.

"Sony recently announced that it would ready 400,000 PS3s in North America and another 100,000 in Japan for the system's launch. Nintendo said it plans to ship 4 million Wii units worldwide by the end of the year."
lol

Sony: 500000x$600 = $300,000,000
Ninty: $4000000x$250 = $1,000,000,000

Well that's assuming they sell all of them. But at least their outlook looks a lot better than Sony's ATM.

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Post by: Apex on September 14, 2006, 12:22:56 PM

I can't wait till christmas!!

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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on September 14, 2006, 12:27:52 PM

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I can't wait till christmas!!

Wii can't wait till Christmas!

*ba-doom PSHHHH*

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Post by: Apex on September 14, 2006, 12:40:28 PM

It can if you have a tight budget.


SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL!!!!!!!!


(500 posts, and it only took almost 3 years...)

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Post by: SaiKar on September 14, 2006, 01:10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Razor
Sony: 500000x$600 = $300,000,000
Ninty: $4000000x$250 = $1,000,000,000

It really doesn't work that way. You have to assume that Sony isn't charging $600 because they're greedy. They probably have much higher production costs. Maybe they're making only $150 off each unit, and Nintendo is making $100.

50,000*150= $7,500,000
4,000,000*100 = $400,000,000

A much larger difference.

Then you have to take into effect one-time costs, like research and development (in the millions for sure) and advertising (probably not all that much) and the difference between the two net profits gets larger and larger.

Too many unknowns to see if they'll make much money or not, but selling that few units is crazy considering what it must have cost to get them ready. I wonder what Sony is thinking.

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Post by: Apex on September 14, 2006, 01:44:44 PM

Nintendo claimed that they would not be making a loss of their first wave of Wiis.

Unlike Microsoft and Sony, they will be losing money, they already stated that.


I wonder when ssbb is coming out?

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Post by: Prpl_Mage on September 14, 2006, 01:57:38 PM

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Originally posted by Apex
Nintendo claimed that they would not be making a loss of their first wave of Wiis.

Unlike Microsoft and Sony, they will be losing money, they already stated that.


I wonder when ssbb is coming out?

As long as they will come out here in Europe I couldn´t be happier, still waiting for Kingdom Hearts II to be released...

And I hope that Ssbb will be out on release day.

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Post by: Apex on September 14, 2006, 02:19:38 PM

Oddly enough US of A and South of A are getting the Wii faster then Japan itself..

Isn't that weird?

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 14, 2006, 06:32:09 PM

I can't wait to wave my stick around like a sword and use it to go fishing.

Excercising! Just what I wanted to be combined with video games!

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 14, 2006, 06:47:00 PM

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Originally posted by FFL2and3rocks

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Originally posted by Apex I can't wait till christmas!!

Wii can't wait till Christmas!

*ba-doom PSHHHH*

 ROFL

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Post by: Razor on September 14, 2006, 07:24:48 PM

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I wonder when ssbb is coming out?

I'm almost definately sure it's March. But wikipedia just says 2007.

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Post by: Linkizcool on September 15, 2006, 02:56:17 AM

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Originally posted by Meiscool
I can't wait to wave my stick around like a sword and use it to go fishing.

Excercising! Just what I wanted to be combined with video games!

Thats what I was thinking, person with the same name as me!

Fat people will have skinny arms!

Ewww......


1000TH POST DOOD w000T YA BABY PARTY TIME BABY W00T CELEBRATION ARRGGH YA MAN!!!!

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 15, 2006, 03:04:54 AM

Rayman 4 + SSBB + New Crystal Chronicles + Wii > Anything Sony puts out

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Post by: Robotam Plus on September 15, 2006, 03:13:08 AM

First games I'll get is Twilight princess and Splinter Cell: Double Agent. Later on I'll get SSBB, Mario Galaxy and Red Steel.

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Post by: Drace on September 15, 2006, 08:57:46 AM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
Rayman 4 + SSBB + New Crystal Chronicles + Wii > Anything Sony puts out

Metal Gear Solid 4. Sorry dude, but MGS4 > Those things.
But then again, MGS = Kojima Studios = Konami = Nintendo + Sony

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Post by: Osmose on September 15, 2006, 09:04:21 AM

Konami is a great studio. The beauty is that they are friendly to ALL consoles. :D

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Post by: WarxePB on September 15, 2006, 11:03:08 AM

It sucks that Corruption isn't coming out on launch day, but hopefully, Twilight Princess will live up to its reputation as the best game ever.

Oh, and I am SO getting a ton of VC games. SMB3 + STH3+K = best games ever

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Post by: Apex on September 15, 2006, 11:34:11 AM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich Rayman 4 + SSBB + New Crystal Chronicles + Wii > Anything Sony puts out

Metal Gear Solid 4. Sorry dude, but MGS4 > Those things.
But then again, MGS = Kojima Studios = Konami = Nintendo + Sony

MGS isn't THAT good.

Fan or no fan, wii looks so much better then MGS.

Plus, Snake is ON ssbb.

And you get to hide in a box, which is the best damn thing ever.

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Post by: Drace on September 15, 2006, 11:50:30 AM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich Rayman 4 + SSBB + New Crystal Chronicles + Wii > Anything Sony puts out Metal Gear Solid 4. Sorry dude, but MGS4 > Those things. But then again, MGS = Kojima Studios = Konami = Nintendo + Sony

MGS isn't THAT good.

Fan or no fan, wii looks so much better then MGS.

Plus, Snake is ON ssbb.

And you get to hide in a box, which is the best damn thing ever.

Wow... so they added Snake to the game. Did they also add the story made by Hideo Kojima? Does the new SSB finish this 6-parter series? No. I couldn't care less about SSBB. The original was fun for a short while, nothing more.

And on a note, MGS is THAT good.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 15, 2006, 12:07:28 PM

Rayman 4 trailers > MGS 4 Trailers. Very yes.

Metal Gear is a fun game, but its not worth buying a system just for. If it was, I'd have a PS2 and not just a PS1.

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Post by: Drace on September 15, 2006, 12:30:42 PM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
Rayman 4 trailers > MGS 4 Trailers. Very yes.

Metal Gear is a fun game, but its not worth buying a system just for. If it was, I'd have a PS2 and not just a PS1.

Rayman sucks. And you´re foolish. Damn sandwich,

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Post by: Apex on September 15, 2006, 02:10:02 PM

Althought I can't claim my support for Rayman...

You just cannot beat Zelda, Mario and Super Smash Bros, it is foolish to even try.

No amount of Solid Snake can ever beat that Tubby Bad-*** Itallian plumber.

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Post by: Drace on September 15, 2006, 03:37:09 PM

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Althought I can't claim my support for Rayman...

You just cannot beat Zelda, Mario and Super Smash Bros, it is foolish to even try.

No amount of Solid Snake can ever beat that Tubby Bad-*** Itallian plumber.

Mario shouldn't even try. The first mario game, Super Mario Bros wasn't that great as everyone says. It's just overrated. The sequels sucked. The first applies to Super Smash Bros too, however that one did have more replay value than Super Mario Bros.

The Zelda series come close to MGS but can't beat it JUST. Oceraine of Time was a game which I enjoyed very much, but the others I found meh. With MGS, I liked all 4 games I've played so far (MG, MGS1&2&3)

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Post by: Archem on September 15, 2006, 03:47:06 PM

*Dies of heart attack whilst reading about the Wii*

Wii>Everything. Especially if Wii=MGS ports.

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Post by: Osmose on September 15, 2006, 04:47:06 PM

Although I like MGS, I don't try to claim it's story is as epic as Drace is saying. I mean, in MGS 4, they MOO. Like cows. They friggen' MOO.

Metal Gear on the NES had a really shoddy way of enemies seeing you, and although it is a hardware limitation, it's still crappy.

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Post by: Archem on September 15, 2006, 05:29:29 PM

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Although I like MGS, I don't try to claim it's story is as epic as Drace is saying. I mean, in MGS 4, they MOO. Like cows. They friggen' MOO.

Metal Gear on the NES had a really shoddy way of enemies seeing you, and although it is a hardware limitation, it's still crappy.

Don't play the NES version.

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 15, 2006, 05:40:10 PM

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Originally posted by Apex Althought I can't claim my support for Rayman... You just cannot beat Zelda, Mario and Super Smash Bros, it is foolish to even try. No amount of Solid Snake can ever beat that Tubby Bad-*** Itallian plumber.

Mario shouldn't even try. The first mario game, Super Mario Bros wasn't that great as everyone says. It's just overrated. The sequels sucked. The first applies to Super Smash Bros too, however that one did have more replay value than Super Mario Bros.

The Zelda series come close to MGS but can't beat it JUST. Oceraine of Time was a game which I enjoyed very much, but the others I found meh. With MGS, I liked all 4 games I've played so far (MG, MGS1&2&3)

..I wasnt impressed with MGS. Though it was fun. I've played alot better games.

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Post by: Drace on September 15, 2006, 06:27:09 PM

People just don´t get that MGS is a cult classic. It´s like The Warriors. You love it or hate it, no inbetween.

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Post by: Apex on September 15, 2006, 07:20:25 PM

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People just don´t get that MGS is a cult classic. It´s like The Warriors. You love it or hate it, no inbetween.

Don't get me wrong, I love it, but I love other ones a hell of alot more.

Mario for instance, he is my main man, I am going to ask him to be my best man for my weding... Or groom...

Mamamia!

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Post by: Razor on September 15, 2006, 07:32:12 PM

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People just don´t get that MGS is a cult classic. It´s like The Warriors. You love it or hate it, no inbetween.

I like The Warriors. I don't really want to own DVD.

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 15, 2006, 07:40:02 PM

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Originally posted by Apex Althought I can't claim my support for Rayman... You just cannot beat Zelda, Mario and Super Smash Bros, it is foolish to even try. No amount of Solid Snake can ever beat that Tubby Bad-*** Itallian plumber.

Mario shouldn't even try. The first mario game, Super Mario Bros wasn't that great as everyone says. It's just overrated. The sequels sucked. The first applies to Super Smash Bros too, however that one did have more replay value than Super Mario Bros.

The Zelda series come close to MGS but can't beat it JUST. Oceraine of Time was a game which I enjoyed very much, but the others I found meh. With MGS, I liked all 4 games I've played so far (MG, MGS1&2&3)

Yup, Super Mario bros would have been way better if there was a couple of hours of cutscenes to every five minutes gameplay ;)

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 15, 2006, 08:02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Drace
People just don´t get that MGS is a cult classic. It´s like The Warriors. You love it or hate it, no inbetween.

....Actually I'm pretty much in between.

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Post by: Archem on September 15, 2006, 08:39:23 PM

Drace has been debunked! *flees towards bomb shelter*

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Post by: Cosmos on September 15, 2006, 09:16:15 PM

*huggles Drace* METAL GEAR SOLID ALL TEH WAY! I dun really like super smash brothers..... <.<;;

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Post by: Razor on September 16, 2006, 12:37:21 AM

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*huggles Drace* METAL GEAR SOLID ALL TEH WAY! I dun really like super smash brothers..... <.<;;

yeah, but that's because you need friends to enjoy it :p

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Post by: Revolution911 on September 16, 2006, 12:41:05 AM

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Originally posted by Midnight *huggles Drace* METAL GEAR SOLID ALL TEH WAY! I dun really like super smash brothers..... <.<;;

yeah, but that's because you need friends to enjoy it :p

Oh sht. OH SHIT. I felt that one.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 16, 2006, 12:59:02 AM

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*huggles Drace* METAL GEAR SOLID ALL TEH WAY! I dun really like super smash brothers..... <.<;;

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 16, 2006, 01:11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Midnight *huggles Drace* METAL GEAR SOLID ALL TEH WAY! I dun really like super smash brothers..... <.<;;

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She's.... hugging... Drace? He hasn't commented on this yet?

Something is wrong with this picture. Oh. Heh. I looked a little lower, and noticed that Drace is in fact, doing something.

MSG > Rayman.

Final Fantasy > MSG. Maybe not for long, but for now.

Zelda > Final Fantasy.  I like Final Fantasy more, but I have to post what is publicly honest.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 16, 2006, 01:18:53 AM

WHy does no one like Rayman? It was a great platformer that made a great transition to 3D.

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Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 16, 2006, 01:31:51 AM

I'd rather save for a PS3 first.

I love Nintendo but

Team ICO>Zelda

Why? Because those games are ZELDA DONE RIGHT! Even Shigeru Miyamoto gave comments on them similar to that.

I am such a nerd.

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Post by: Archem on September 16, 2006, 02:14:36 AM

Zelda done right? I'm afraid that that's already been done. In the late 1980s. Yo.

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Post by: Apex on September 16, 2006, 02:46:32 AM

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MSG > Rayman.

Final Fantasy > MSG. Maybe not for long, but for now.

Zelda > Final Fantasy.  I like Final Fantasy more, but I have to post what is publicly honest.

Finally, someone with common sense.

MGS is extremly overated, I mean seriously, FFX had more gameplay then two of them combined.

It's fun, but it is short. The story is alright, you get mad at RPG's for recycling stories, but somehow you over look MGS2's extremly similarities to the first one..

The story of three really wasn't even good, the game play was the onlything holding that together.

When you look at the first one now, it just doesn't even seem worth playing. It did nothing revolutionary, nothing graphics wise that Final Fantasy IX didn't put to shame completely and uderly.

Big deal, voice acting, Tales of Eternia had that.

MGS has done nothing revolutionary. Good gameplay, that is it, that is all nothing more. For those of you who say it has the best stories on earth, you don't get out much. Read a book, I have a wonderful suggestion, read some of Terry Brooks later novels, they are quite good.

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Post by: Dragoon de Sol on September 16, 2006, 04:17:38 AM

Final Fantasy has done little for my faith in the series lately.

Though, if FFXII and the new CC games are any indication, faith will soon be restored.

I hafta say, I am a Nintendo fanboy.

And Drace, you are going a little too far trying to prove MGS is god.

Frankly, it's not.

It's your opinion.
Nothing more, nothing less.

It is not a fact, no matter how much you want it to be so.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 16, 2006, 04:25:49 AM

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When you look at the first MGS now, it just doesn't even seem worth playing. It did nothing revolutionary.

Well... I don't really know of any other futuristic stealth games like it.

Plus, MGS is the original Stealth game, so just like FF is the original classic of RPGs and always will be, the same goes for MGS in it's genre.

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Post by: Drace on September 16, 2006, 07:45:59 AM

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*huggles Drace* METAL GEAR SOLID ALL TEH WAY! I dun really like super smash brothers..... <.<;;

O_O *slowly hugs Mid*

 

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It's fun, but it is short. The story is alright, you get mad at RPG's for recycling stories, but somehow you over look MGS2's extremly similarities to the first one.

Yeah, well have you beaten it? Cause then it gets explained WHY. Also, I really loved MGS2. **** ya people who hate MGS2 because of Raiden.

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Plus, MGS is the original Stealth game, so just like FF is the original classic of RPGs and always will be, the same goes for MGS in it's genre.

Not only was MGS a revolution that made the stealth genre what it is today, it also brought a revolution in stories and emotions. AND VOICE ACTING. Pre-mgs, voice acting was either "bah" or "ewww".

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MGS is overrated

So... lemme get it straight. MGS, which was highly underrated till MGS2 in 2001, is overrated and Mario, which games overall are boring, repetitive and all alike is not? "But it's a fat plumber trying to save a princess! It's the best! How can that be overrated?" Yeah? How can that be overrated. I wonder why people overrate it. Must be the same as that whole Pokemon and Dragonball Z stuff.

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Post by: Cosmos on September 16, 2006, 02:00:43 PM

Quote bug fixed... <.<

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Post by: WarxePB on September 17, 2006, 10:48:43 PM

Sometimes, you don't need a good story (or story at all) to enjoy a video game. The earliest games didn't have anything akin to a story - you just did stuff because it was fun. Did Pong have a story? Nope. But would you ever deny its status as 'the' video game? I think not. Could you say that any of the Metal Gear games are 'the' video game? Not a chance, because then you'd be flamed into the deepest depths of Cocytus.
You could say that the MG series is great because of all the plot development and cool ideas that are in its mythos. But at the same time, you could say that the 'core' series of Super Mario games (SMB1,2,3,SMW,SM64,SMS and possibly SMG) are great simply because you don't have a real plot - the plot is always "go save the princess from certain peril", and you don't deviate from that. And some people prefer mindless but fun platforming over layers upon layers of convulted storylines.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 17, 2006, 11:15:46 PM

MGS is overrated. Is it good? Yes. Is it REALLY GREAT!? No where near it. Over rated means people say ots better than it is. People don't say MARIO IS TEH BEST GAME EVAR! People say "Yeah its an awesome game". Which it is. So its not over rated. Being over rated doesn't mean its bad, and just because its good doesn't mean its over rated.

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Post by: Drace on September 18, 2006, 02:48:36 AM

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MGS is overrated. Is it good? Yes. Is it REALLY GREAT!? No where near it. Over rated means people say ots better than it is. People don't say MARIO IS TEH BEST GAME EVAR! People say "Yeah its an awesome game". Which it is. So its not over rated. Being over rated doesn't mean its bad, and just because its good doesn't mean its over rated.

Sorry dude, but if anything on this world is overrated, it´s Mario. Just look at how all you guys here react on Mario.

"OH ZOMG MARIO T3H BEST!!!"
"MARIO MARRY ME!!!"
"MARIO"
"MARIO"
"MARIO"
**** Mario.

And MGS is overrated because I say it's the best? So, one guy says that and it's overrated, and a dozen say that Mario is the best and it is not? Pfff, you stink. GIEF BAK ZKX YOU FILTHY OLD SAMMICH WIT FUNGUS

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 18, 2006, 02:56:49 AM

Hey, MGS is a great game. But I think it's over rated. I know alot of real life Drace's in terms of MGS.

Mario is a great game too, and its not over rated. No one ever says Mario is great due to aspects it doesn't contain like alot of people I've known have done on MGS. Its like FF7. People say it contains much more than it does and overplay anything that can be remotely 'deep'. No one has ever looked at Mario and said it contained "political intrigue which satired modern reality beter than anythinbg else in the world"- Real quote from a buddy o mine pn MGS. When you see Mario, everyone, even though they think its great, won't act like its not simple. But thats why they love it.

ZKX is dead until I figure out what I did to f*** up my password.

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Post by: Shady Ultima on September 18, 2006, 03:09:01 AM

^ I agree with Sammich

MGS 3 which I played from beginning to end at my buddy's house was dull. The only thing I enjoyed was when Snake got his eye blew out, and the guy was takin a crap.

But then, I'm biased, I don't like games that have futuristic elements, part of why I'm not a huge fan of FF7. Good game, but it also became repitive.

In my opinion, Sony has much deeper story lines, while Nintendo has always focused on having fun. SSBB is going to be great, but not because of its single player. The series is terrible if you're playing alone. But when you're playing with your three closest friends, suddenly it becomes on of the greatest games out there. That is the thing Nintendo likes to do. Make you have fun with others. There are very few multiplayer Sony games, and so, you end up sitting in a room for hours on end playing a game with no social interaction

For this Nintendo is better then Sony.

Mind you, I have both a GC and a PS2, and plan on gettin both of their respective next gen systems, I just think Nintendo is a much better gaming company.

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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 18, 2006, 03:26:30 AM

Nintendo pioneers ideas. Sony tends to lease for games they are sure will sell. *cough*KingdomHearts*cough*

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 18, 2006, 05:40:27 PM

Nintendo is a Japanese humpany.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 18, 2006, 05:45:09 PM

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Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich MGS is overrated. Is it good? Yes. Is it REALLY GREAT!? No where near it. Over rated means people say ots better than it is. People don't say MARIO IS TEH BEST GAME EVAR! People say "Yeah its an awesome game". Which it is. So its not over rated. Being over rated doesn't mean its bad, and just because its good doesn't mean its over rated.

Sorry dude, but if anything on this world is overrated, it´s Mario. Just look at how all you guys here react on Mario.

"OH ZOMG MARIO T3H BEST!!!"
"MARIO MARRY ME!!!"
"MARIO"
"MARIO"
"MARIO"
**** Mario.

And MGS is overrated because I say it's the best? So, one guy says that and it's overrated, and a dozen say that Mario is the best and it is not? Pfff, you stink. GIEF BAK ZKX YOU FILTHY OLD SAMMICH WIT FUNGUS

Totally agree'd! Seriously, there´s not a single game with such a dense storyline, gameplay...MGS is, in the action games area, the best thing out there.

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Post by: Drace on September 18, 2006, 06:26:26 PM

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Originally posted by Drace quote: Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich MGS is overrated. Is it good? Yes. Is it REALLY GREAT!? No where near it. Over rated means people say ots better than it is. People don't say MARIO IS TEH BEST GAME EVAR! People say "Yeah its an awesome game". Which it is. So its not over rated. Being over rated doesn't mean its bad, and just because its good doesn't mean its over rated. Sorry dude, but if anything on this world is overrated, it´s Mario. Just look at how all you guys here react on Mario. "OH ZOMG MARIO T3H BEST!!!" "MARIO MARRY ME!!!" "MARIO" "MARIO" "MARIO" **** Mario. And MGS is overrated because I say it's the best? So, one guy says that and it's overrated, and a dozen say that Mario is the best and it is not? Pfff, you stink. GIEF BAK ZKX YOU FILTHY OLD SAMMICH WIT FUNGUS

Totally agree'd! Seriously, there´s not a single game with such a dense storyline, gameplay...MGS is, in the action games area, the best thing out there.

Join the hug. *is still hugging Mid* *hugs Mid and Al*