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Title: Legend Blade
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 22, 2006, 01:52:55 AM
Alright, i am very new to RPG Maker, but i have a little bit of exp with coding,

So far i have one chapter done,

Story: Many years ago five swords were forged, one was given to each of the great races, The Human's recieved the phoenix Feather, The Dragoons were given the Dragon Tooth, the wolfen (Claim to have wolves as their ancestors) got the Wolf Jaws (2 swords) and the Demons got the chimera tail. The Chimera Tail was the most powerful of the 5 and the dragoons grew jealous. The dragoons claimed that the Wielder, the great Demon King Daridus, was growing thirsty for blood, after twenty dragoons were killed mysteriously, The dragoons declared war on Daridus. They severely under estimated him. His armies marched over the dragoons destroying fortress after fortress, The dragoons reluctantly asked the Humans and wolfen to aid them, and with their help they pushed Daridus back to his castle, in the confusion of the fighting three of the greatest warriors from each race entered the castle Drake, the human knight and wielder of the Phoenix Feather; Nero, the wolfen shadow and wielder of the Wolf Jaws, and Rin, the princess of the Dragoons and wielder of the Dragon tooth. They all challenged Daridus to a fight.
The heroes were losing till Rin, sacrificed herself and sealed her and daridus into the chimera blade, taking the dragon tooth with her... But the chimera blade spoke to Drake and Nero, claiming that if it acquired the correct souls, Daridus would be unleashed, far more powerful then ever. When the blade said that the "Last of its kind" was one of the souls, The races began to panic. The dragoons claimed the wolfen were closest to extinction and the Dragoons began massive genocide upon the wolfen, Drake stepped up to defend his ally... But the phoenix feather failed him and he perished. That left Nero, he was killed at the last true stronghold of the wolfen by two dragoonic knights, Nova and Atrix... Nova resigned from the knights and dissapeared soon after. The wolfen came together in the secret city of Aneris, but they knew the day would come when the dragoons would find them

Characters

Drake: A human Knight killed long ago by the dragoons

Nero: A mysterious wolfen who was killed by Atrix and Nova

Nova: A dragoon, relinquished his knightly hood as a way for repenting for his sins

Luna: A wolfen girl living in Aneris

Shockwave: ???

More to come
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Post by: DragonBlaze on September 22, 2006, 02:29:14 AM
The story is very cliche...
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 22, 2006, 02:31:25 AM
really? i thought it to be kinda original, judging from the RPGs i have played, it wont be based around luna if that is what you are saying

Thank you for looking at it though

can you tell me what you dont like and what you do?
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Post by: DragonBlaze on September 22, 2006, 02:46:39 AM
Well its mainly just cliche because you have these powerful objects given to each race. It sounds a lot like Lord of the Rings. Also, the idea of starting the game with heros fighting a bad guy and stuff like that is used a lot.

I think the base of your story has some real potential, but you need to work on some of the details.

First off, the swords. They were forged and given to each race. Who forged them? Why was one given to each race? If you want this to be a secret, instead of having them just given to each race, you could have each race already having a sword that is passed down by family lines or something like that, and then later in the story you can reviel who created them and why. I think if you would do something like that were the races already have their swords, it would be better. Like I said earlier, LotR has rings given to each races, and since that became a very popular story now, you probably want to stay away from starting like that.

I don't think you can avoid the battle with the bad guy, but there are ways to make it work better with the story. I don't know how your game starts out, but if you could find a way to leave the whole battle and such or even the whole intro out, that would be good. Then, throughout the game, you keep learning more and more about it until you get the complete picture. But anyway, just be careful on where you put your emphesises.

Then I think the rest is sounding pretty good, and you could really make something good out of it.

Do you have any screens? Could you post how the game starts out as well, like the first 10 minutes or so?

Your character information coudl be a bit more detailed as well ;)
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 22, 2006, 07:17:19 PM
Ok, i got what you are saying, i can give you a screen of where the intro battle starts i guess
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Post by: DragonBlaze on September 22, 2006, 07:21:14 PM
... If you go to the charas main page (charas-project.net) there is a nice character generator and a large resourse section. Not many people like the rtp, the graphics themselves aren't that good, and they're used in a lot of games. Getting your game original graphics will make it look more unique and original.

At least change the heros graphics to something non-rtp. A lot of people will bash your game just for that if you go out and advertise it.

EDIT: Your walls aren't really made right either. You need a wall tile and a seperate ceiling tile, your using a cieling tile for the walls and ceiling, and it doesn't look right.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 04:04:41 PM
How to word this...

can you remake that map using the chipset that i used so that i see what it should look like? i won't use yours i just want to know what it should look like

default dungeon chipset just so you know
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 24, 2006, 04:42:34 PM
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Originally posted by Anubis_Soldier
default dungeon chipset just so you know


Just because of that, it will never look incredibly great. It could look good, but not great.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 04:49:33 PM
i know that, i plan on changing the chipset but i need to know how it should look for future reference

Off topic: i thought your avatar thing was a sandwich?
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 24, 2006, 04:54:02 PM
Don't learn to map with the default. You can't learn anything eith em. Try downloading some good chips and look at MIC's tut.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 09:08:04 PM
Well, i tried to redo it with a diff tile set

plz tell me what needs to change
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Post by: Ephiam on September 24, 2006, 09:15:12 PM
That actually looks alot better than the RTP version you made.
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Post by: koopa-on-fire on September 24, 2006, 09:23:23 PM
It's looking good so far. When you update the game, e-mail or PM me. I like where this is going.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on September 24, 2006, 09:43:40 PM
Yeah, that new map looks a lot better than the rtp version. ;)
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 10:09:16 PM
i think i got a pretty good idea on how to make the story not so cliche, where they got the swords and everything

Maybe you will like it, maybe you wont

Long ago a great demon was defeated ending centuries of darkness, however, not all was bright.

Over a period of time a new demon took over the territories of the old Demon, his name was Daridus and he claimed the vacant throne as Demon King. Under his rule, the Demons, Dragoons, Humans, and wolfen lived peacefully together. It would not last...

A robed figure visited the most powerful human knight named Drake, He challenged Drake to a duel and defeated the knight. Never knowing defeat the knight asked the cloaked figure how he did it... He said nothing but left the sword that he had used against Drake, months later the hooded figure visited the King and Queen of the dragoons, he gave them a sword as well, and left without any words exchanged. The figure gave Nero a ninja wolfen twin katanas and left just as mysteriously as he had appeared to Nero. The hooded figure then came to the demon king... He challenged the king to a fight. As Daridus fought the figure, he realized that the sword he wielded belonged to the old king. He slayed the robed figure and took it for himself. The dragoons heard that the other races had gained a sword from the figure as well, the dragoonic king was infuriated when he heard the Daridus had the old king's sword. He became jealous, and he had his armies attack Daridus' territories. Daridus struck back and drove the dragoons back, Daridus' armies were within miles of the Dragoonic capitol. The king pleaded with the other races to help him, claiming that darkness would return to the lands. They reluctantly helped the dragoons and drove Daridus and his forces back to his castle... Drake; Nero; and the Dragoonic Princess, Rin; infiltrated the castle and prepared to assasinate the king... what happened in his throne room is unknown but it cost the life of Rin and sealed Daridus into the old kings sword... After reading old texts, the dragoons learned Daridus could be unsealed if specific souls were accumulated and brought with in range of the sword... It was then found that one of the souls was to be the last of its kind. The Dragoonic king decided massive genocide of the smallest race would take care of the soul that was needed, The dragoons targeted their former allies the wolfen... They attacked the Wolfen capitol suddenly and without warning, the city was completely wiped out. Upon realizing what was going on, Drake stepped in on the Wolfen side, not even the sword given to him by the hooded figure, the phoenix feather, could prevent his death. After the death of Drake, Nero gave up fighting and was killed soon after. The wolfen fled to their last stronghold, the secret city of Aneris, where they wait for the dragoons to come and end it
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Post by: koopa-on-fire on September 24, 2006, 10:22:19 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but that is much better to me.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 10:44:49 PM
now to the town of Aneris, i need a chipset for it, and i am having difficulties finding one

here is a current pic
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 11:00:41 PM
I have no idea how to add more then one picture, but i dont think i will change this chip set, here it is after a tiny bit of tweaking
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Post by: DragonBlaze on September 24, 2006, 11:12:43 PM
The story is better now. May I suggest that you find a new name for the demons?  I think it'll help with making your game sound more original.

The map isn't bad for an rtp map. Remember how your old map looked a lot better when it was made with a non-rtp chipset? I think the same will be true if you found a new chipset for this.

Like I said before, it isn't really that bad, just keep practicing and you'll get better.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 11:28:28 PM
but i cant seem to find a good town set i can work with

if you have any chip sets that could work plz show me them
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 11:37:22 PM
i dont know how to add pictures to other posts either so plz excuse me

this is a redo of the Dragoonic throne room from b4
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 24, 2006, 11:39:53 PM
Not all throne rooms look like that. Maybe make em larger.
Title: kinda funny that you mention that
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 24, 2006, 11:46:45 PM
The dragoons ended up taking Daridus' Castle... They just redecorated from the creepy gothic/satanic look
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 24, 2006, 11:57:57 PM
I meant layout wise. The demoic people would have different statues and such than the humans pr whatever. Try adding in objects.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 24, 2006, 11:59:22 PM
Go to Photobucket or Imageshack and register an account at one. They should tell you step by step how to to it.

Oh and make sure you use the

<
img
(space)
src
=
(You'll see this part as http:...whatever)
>

That will make your picture full size.

I can't believe I never used this. ;)
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 06:25:09 PM
Also, save your images as PNGs instead of JPGs please.
Title: Demons...
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 26, 2006, 01:10:38 AM
would naming them Vagrants be alright? i know the definitions truly dont match up but it just sounds so awesome :smoke:
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Post by: koopa-on-fire on September 26, 2006, 01:23:33 AM
Vagrants sounds cool...at least better than the generic "demons".
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on September 26, 2006, 03:49:13 PM
mix the two...
Daegrants...or Vagrons....
hehe....
seriously though
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 26, 2006, 07:29:20 PM
other then that, i have a couple of New problems, The first picture, the guy with the blue hair, he is one of the characters and i like how he looks but he is RTP and i heard using RTP is a bad idea,

The second picture is of a potential character, the problem, i need a battle char set to go with him, and because of the limited resources for the battle generator and the fact that i have no artistic skils i am unable to make him, If any of you could help it would be much appreciated, just needs to be standard RTP style battle char set

PLZ HELP ME, i will post this under requests as well



sadly, i wont be able to truly continue till the Battle Chara continues
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 26, 2006, 11:21:36 PM
i changed what i wanted
Title: i took some advice
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 27, 2006, 03:28:20 AM
I decided to try to do it on my own, mostly because the char resembles cloud alot, so i still want someone who is good at this kinda stuff to help, but oh well
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Post by: Bhall on September 27, 2006, 06:52:54 AM
I remade your town area with another chipset just so u can see wich tile would be better if u like it.
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Post by: Bhall on September 27, 2006, 06:54:24 AM
another one
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Post by: Bhall on September 27, 2006, 06:56:55 AM
and the last one(sorry for posting three times cuz like anubis i don't know how to put three pics in one thread).Hope you like the chipset.
Title: GREAT JOB
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 27, 2006, 07:36:28 PM
plz show me the chipset you used, and plz include the char for the swan if possible, Those look AWESOME
Title: Well, here it is...
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 27, 2006, 11:44:49 PM
Not good, not great, but hey its my first one ever

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Post by: koopa-on-fire on September 27, 2006, 11:50:12 PM
That is a nice recoloring, Anubis. Way2go.

Peace out,
KoF
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 28, 2006, 01:55:20 AM
What's with the eye?
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 28, 2006, 02:04:47 AM
in game, it is a scar, sorry if it looks bad...

and meiscool, this is kinda random... (and selfish of me) can you make a battle character for me? cuz from what i have seen, you are quite artistic
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 28, 2006, 02:36:55 AM
MIC? Artistic? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I mean, I sorry. Bwahahahaha. No need for caps.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 28, 2006, 02:47:50 AM
Is he no good??
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Post by: Bhall on September 28, 2006, 05:44:29 AM
Here is the chipset I used for your area but as for character wich one u mean the guy with blue hair.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 28, 2006, 07:34:48 PM
I have no tallent what-so-ever. You're better off doing it yourself.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 28, 2006, 07:44:09 PM

darn, that means more work for me...
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on September 30, 2006, 01:55:33 AM
thanks to Bhall and his tile set i will be redoing both of the current cities... Chapter 2 is done coding wise...
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Post by: Bhall on September 30, 2006, 02:46:09 PM
No problem.Glad to help others and if you'll need some more just ask. :D
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 05, 2006, 09:08:07 PM
Since i had not posted anything in a while i am gonna post some general character bios... some could be considered cliche...

Drake
Job: Human Knight
Legend Blade: Phoenix Feather
Drake was considered the strongest of the Humans. He never lost a duel till he faced a hooded man, after being defeated by the hooded man, he left Drake a sword that he called the Phoenix Feather... soon after that duel, the fight between the Vagrants and the Dragoons began, He sided with the dragoons and made friends with Rin, the princess of the Dragoons

Rin
Job: Dragoonic Princess
Legend Blade: Dragon Tooth
Rin was the princess of the dragoons, when the hooded man gave the dragoons the Dragon tooth, the king decided that Rin may use it. Considered to be the kindest creature to walk the earth, she rarely if ever used the sword... After she acquired the blade she met Drake and an old ally named Nero. Sadly she is said to have met her demise to Daridus, King of the Vagrants

Nova
Job: Ex-Dragoonic Knight
Legend Blade: None
Said to be the oldest dragoon ever, his age is not quite known because he seems to claim something different, it is estimated to be between 5000 to 10000 depending on how Nova feels... He left the Dragoonic Knights after the death of Rin, whom he considered to be his sister

Nero
Job: Wolfen Shadow
Legend Blades: Wolf Jaws
A mysterious wolfen with a dark secret known only by Nova and Rin... Comparitivly weaker then Nova and Rin, he rarily speaks to anyone

Luna
Job: Wolfen
Legend Blades: None
A wolfen girl... she is the only one left after the raid on Aneris

Aroyu
Job: Dragoonic Prince
Legend Blade: Inherited the Dragon Tooth from his sister Rin
Far to young to fight in the Vagrant war, he became Nova's apprentice at a young age, his training was never completed because of Nova's long absense

Satumi
Job: Dragoonic Princess
Legend Blade: None
Born soon after Rin's death, she is soft spoken and kind just like her sister was

Riaden
Job: Vagrant Soldier
Legend Blade: None, but owns a sword known as the Shocu, which can be compared to them
A rather young Vagrant, he was for Daridus' rule over the Vagrants, fought valiantly under Daridus. After Daridus was sealed, he found himself without a job and turned to becoming a hit man

Shockwave
Job: *Error
Legend Blade: None, has an odd weapon that fires bursts of energy
Not much is known about the organism known as Shockwave... other then the fact he travels to Barnaris and stays at the inn everyday, he has never been seen outside of Barnaris

Atrix
Job: Royal Knight and Prince
Legend Blade: None
The first son of the King, when offered the Dragon Tooth, he declined. He is in charge of the extermination squad that killed Drake and the wolfen Nero.

Daridus
Job: Sealed Vagrant King
Legend Blade: Chimera Blade
An oddity among Vagrants. He preferred to have a non violent reign as king and actually did it, considered a hero amoungst the Vagrants. He was sealed away in the last battle of the Vagrant War
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 28, 2006, 01:44:52 AM
I have not been here forever... nor have i worked on my game forever... I am so lazy

Well, where i left off, i needed a tutorial for making a party changer... I am gonna try to figure it out on my own, but any help would be appreciated

Bhall, do you know of a Tileset that i could use for a recked city, like one that has had an atomic bomb dropped on it??
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Post by: koopa-on-fire on October 29, 2006, 12:17:07 AM
I'm using a party-changing item for my game. Here's the code I got.

EDIT: The main character in my party can not be changed, so he's not on there.
Title: Thanks for the help
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 29, 2006, 02:29:55 PM
But i managed to make a system before i read your post, it is not pretty but oh well. I got to work out some of the bugs, but its better then not being able to choose your party at all


I have started work on my first true dungeon
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on November 01, 2006, 04:00:42 AM
Well... here is a screen shot of a puzzle floor of my dungeon (HORRIBLY EASY) However to the left is a blank room, and i got to come up with a GOOD puzzle in there...
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on November 05, 2006, 09:17:15 PM
I am currently working on trying to release a demo, it will be chapter one of my game, all but 2 of the main characters are non rtp  :)

(Thanks for the charas generator Alex)
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on November 06, 2006, 04:16:20 AM
The Demo at Rapid Share
http://rapidshare.com/files/2177045/Legend_Blade.lzh.html

The intro is pretty much just words, no cool effects yet, sorry...
It is chapter 1 of my game, I kinda rushed it...
Tell me what you think and if it is the Worst thing you have ever played,

Thanks
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Post by: SilverBlade on November 06, 2006, 04:08:58 PM
Well, you said that the intro only consists of words...If you say it yourself, why do you do it then? I read half the intro but then I got bored so I just rapidly pressed enter to skip it!

Then I arrive at tocity, the tileset may not be RTP, but all the characters,and the battles, are! They are completely RTP even the 'victory song'! I got bored quickly so I quit...


But don't worry, it's not the worst I played  :happy: . As it would be useless to give critism without a few tips, I will now provide you some:
1. Make the intro with special effects. Show the players what happens. Let the characters do all the talking work, not you. And make sure to put a background music.
2. Delete the RTP's, replace them by (own)made resources.
3. Get good battlesprites, battle music, victory music AND make the battle a little bit more unique(Overdrive's, special skills by equiping different weapons...)
4. Use some light effects(example: the sun is shining on your village)
5. Change the Title Screen Music(the title screen is good, but the music is again, RTP.)
6. Use proper english(mine isn't that good either, but I try ^^). 'I' is not i. Use capital letters!

Well, that's all I can think off. Don't worry, if you follow my tips, your game will look a lot better

[GLOW]SilverBlade[/GLOW]
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Post by: Bhall on November 07, 2006, 11:42:47 AM
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Originally posted by Anubis_Soldier
Bhall, do you know of a Tileset that i could use for a recked city, like one that has had an atomic bomb dropped on it??


Sorry I haven't reply cuz I was busy but to answer your question sorry I don't have any but you could look through the resources on this site or try the other sites like gamingw or others and maybe you'll find somthing.