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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Robotam Plus on September 25, 2006, 11:08:34 AM

Title: The most overrated game or movie ever?
Post by: Robotam Plus on September 25, 2006, 11:08:34 AM
My vote goes to the Halo games.
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on September 25, 2006, 11:52:50 AM
FF7.

It's a good game, but come on! People worship the damn game.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 25, 2006, 12:00:34 PM
Probably Halo. Like FFL, it's a purely awesome game, but hell, it's really just another FPS. GoldenEye>Halo
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Post by: Apex on September 25, 2006, 12:34:14 PM
I've yet to play Halo, so I can't justify voting that..

But I can state that FF7 is extremely overated, although it is a wonderful game in my oppinion, Squaresoft has taken that to it's head and won't stop pouring out sequals and prequals.

Although it deserves quite a bit of hype, it is over exagerated in probably the most annoying areas.

Cloud- You could have had a much better main character.
Sephiroth- Was being used the whole game by Jenova. Making him not that cool.
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Post by: Dragonium on September 25, 2006, 01:21:17 PM
Draggy's most-overrated...

Game: FF7. Come on guys, it sucks.

Movie: Scary Movie. All of them. The first one was funny for about twenty minutes. All the others suck.

Band: Trivium. Seriously, why can't people stop with the "new Metallica" stuff. They f*ckin' suck. Dragonforce, Mastodon, hell even fuggin' CoB are way better.
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Post by: Drace on September 25, 2006, 02:29:17 PM
Halo, yeah. Overrated. Just another FPS. Hell, there are way better FPS games out there.

Most underrated? Far Cry. Come on people! PC Far Cry >>>>>>> Halo.
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Post by: Darkfox on September 25, 2006, 02:42:13 PM
FF7 and Harvest Moon QUIT MAKING FANGAMES OF THEM, sheesh... like a Harvest Moon is made each year or so!
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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 25, 2006, 02:46:54 PM
Legend of Dragoon. Many people love that game and I think it sucked bad.

As for the movie: Million Dollar Baby. So female Rocky fell with the neck on the chair. Bah.
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on September 25, 2006, 03:46:10 PM
ytivium does suck. And mastodon does rule, yes.

Over rated game title-


Ill take "Secret of manna and any final fantasy title for the win"
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Post by: MrMister on September 25, 2006, 06:22:08 PM
Yeah, Square is gay for making sequels for 7 and 10, my least favorite ones, and not like, the good ones, like 9 and 8.

Overrated movie, all of the Star Wars. The original ones are pretty enjoyable, but come on, some really shittish acting going on, and it's got those lame scene transitions and is dotted with plotholes.. Not to mention George Lucas knows ****-all about writing dialogue.

On the Trivium note, I yelled something like 'Matt is a generic first name for a lead singer' or something at Sounds of the Underground and he yelled at me.
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on September 25, 2006, 06:50:38 PM
Dude, sounds of the  underground sucked this year.  I went to the unholy alliance, With slayer, Lamb of God and Mastodon, Children of Sodom-er Beodom....way better than the emo S.O.U tour. The only Balls out rock I saw at that tour was Gwar.

Lamb of god sucked this  year, but Mastodon ripped my testes out through my ears and put orbs of superdense lead in their place.

And Slayer pretty much blew my face off with Lambardo back on drums.

But alas, I digress....


Seriously though.....

I HATE secret of manna. I loathe it. My friends were totally into that game, but I thought  it was 3 pounds o sheit in a two pound bag.

Trivium sucks. Plain and simple. Its neo-nu-metal, and I wish thefans would hurry up and turn legal drinking age so I can start fights with them at the watering holes.
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Post by: Black Massacre on September 25, 2006, 06:59:39 PM
Spider-man is highly over-rated.

Zelda is really over-rated.
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Post by: Revolution911 on September 25, 2006, 06:59:52 PM
I hate Avenged Sevenfold
I hate Passion of the Christ
I hate Final Fantasy in general.

Sue me.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 07:00:11 PM
Well, I've played both Halos and I can diffenently say it's NOT overrated. However, the whole "OMFG Master Cheif is the coolest character eva!" is.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 25, 2006, 07:03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911
I hate Avenged Sevenfold
I hate Passion of the Christ
I hate Final Fantasy in general.

Sue me.


You must masturbate a lot.
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Post by: Black Massacre on September 25, 2006, 07:04:59 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911
I hate Avenged Sevenfold
I hate Passion of the Christ
I hate Final Fantasy in general.

Sue me.


You must masturbate a lot.


Yeah, Passion of the Christ was fucking good.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 07:06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
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Originally posted by Revolution911
I hate Avenged Sevenfold
I hate Passion of the Christ
I hate Final Fantasy in general.

Sue me.


You must masturbate a lot.


Yeah, Passion of the Christ was fucking good.


ROFL. Yes, I'm laugh at YOU.
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Post by: Revolution911 on September 25, 2006, 07:07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Black Massacre
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
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Originally posted by Revolution911
I hate Avenged Sevenfold
I hate Passion of the Christ
I hate Final Fantasy in general.

Sue me.


You must masturbate a lot.


Yeah, Passion of the Christ was fucking good.


I'm not EXACTLY an athiest or anything, but that movie sucked. I could find people being tortured on like you tube or something. Dont go to the theater to try and find religon.

And then people try and act like they're die hard christians after seeing it. Honestly shut the fuck up. If you were a die hard christian you would've have read the bible and not waited for the movie.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 07:11:38 PM
I agree with Rev on the first part. If I want to see some dude get tortured, I'll rent a porno. Also, this movie re-inspired a lot of faith... but why? We should be practising on how he lived, not on how he died.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on September 25, 2006, 07:12:40 PM
I agree with most of you, Halo and FF7 are great games, but definitely over hyped. I think The Da Vinci Code was WAY over rated, the movie totally killed it. Everything from the acting, to the changes in scripts and cutting out of really good scenes. The book was so mch better it's not even funny, shouldn't be surprised though. Hollywood knew it would cause a lot of controversy and therefore, sell a lot of tickets. So they weren't worried as much about actual quality... Greedy bastards... So glad I saw it for free.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 07:19:29 PM
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Hollywood knew it would cause a lot of controversy and therefore, sell a lot of tickets. So they weren't worried as much about actual quality... Greedy bastards... So glad I saw it for free.


WILL PEOPLE ****ing SHUT UP ABOUT HOLLYWOOD AND OTHER VARIOUS CORPERATIONS DOING THINGS TO "RUIN" A SERIES!?!?

My god... it's a corperation's job to make money. It doesn't matter if it's what you want or not, just as long as you keep going back to them and they get your cash. It's their job to make money, and if they choose to preserve quality of the few over money making AND pleasing the most (the most being people with low standard intellegence, so says the statics), then they arn't a very good corperation. The Da Vinci Code made a huge sum of money, and people still continue to watch movies, so I see no way as to what the makers did wrong.
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Post by: Archem on September 25, 2006, 07:27:31 PM
I like Halo. I don't see how it's overrated. It's not very big (or at least not as big as the BIG big FPSs) as far as I can tell, other than that it's fun.

FF VII: A great game, but people need to stop talking about how good it is. There're a few games that are better, so stop praising it as the best thing ever.

Most underrated game: Alien Hominid. So f'ing great, yet nobody seems to care...

Naruto: Most overrated anime. It's nice, but not much more than that.

The Passion of the You Know the Rest: It's very interesting, but it feels more "(very religious) cult classicy" than "best movie every".
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Post by: drenrin2120 on September 25, 2006, 07:29:22 PM
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Originally posted by drenrin2120
Hollywood knew it would cause a lot of controversy and therefore, sell a lot of tickets. So they weren't worried as much about actual quality... Greedy bastards... So glad I saw it for free.


WILL PEOPLE ******* SHUT UP ABOUT HOLLYWOOD AND OTHER VARIOUS CORPERATIONS DOING THINGS TO "RUIN" A SERIES!?!?

My god... it's a corperation's job to make money. It doesn't matter if it's what you want or not, just as long as you keep going back to them and they get your cash. It's their job to make money, and if they choose to preserve quality of the few over money making AND pleasing the most (the most being people with low standard intellegence, so says the statics), then they arn't a very good corperation. The Da Vinci Code made a huge sum of money, and people still continue to watch movies, so I see no way as to what the makers did wrong.


JESUS CHRIST


okay, you make a good point.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 07:35:55 PM
Just note that I didn't direct that post to you singlely. I more or less directed it to any person out their that complains about a series being ruined by a company other then it's original creators (AKA, the people that sat down and made the game), but still making money. I don't care if they say: "The gaming experience went downhill after final fantasy 32694354", but I hate how people go: "Sony is a slut because they suck lol. They put out another Final Fantasy game and they ruined the series and it's all their fault. I'm gonna go buy the game, cya."
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on September 25, 2006, 07:49:48 PM
Games: FF7 and FF8 for me.

Movie: Star Wars and Shark Tale.

Personally, I don't think there is such a thing as the best in this case. It's not like you can take two games and race them to see who's better. You can only compare opinions. The best is an opinion in this case.

The four above were awesome, but to me not the best.
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Post by: Razor on September 25, 2006, 08:26:21 PM
FF7. As much as it is my favourite RPG (in that way, like how Diablo 2 is an RPG but very different) I know that it's over hyped.

But do I care? No. I played it before the hype, making me awesome.

Most overrated movie? I dunno, probably Titanic. Never saw it, never wanted to.


Most overrated anime? Naruto. It's the FF7 of anime, but instead of being cool, it sucks.
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Post by: Black Massacre on September 25, 2006, 08:29:29 PM
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Most overrated anime? Naruto. It's the FF7 of anime, but instead of being cool, it sucks.


How does it suck? What don't you like about it?
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Post by: Emerates on September 25, 2006, 08:44:32 PM
The newer Star Wars movies were overrated, definitely, simply because they were Star Wars.  Not as good as the original three...

Overrated games.....  that one Dawn of the Dead clone for 360, Chronicles of Riddick (good, but not that good), and a few others that escape me at the moment...
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 08:55:29 PM
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The newer Star Wars movies were overrated, definitely, simply because they were Star Wars.  Not as good as the original three...


If I ever said something that stupid, I would shave my ***, and shoot myself.
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Post by: Black Massacre on September 25, 2006, 09:01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Emerates
The newer Star Wars movies were overrated, definitely, simply because they were Star Wars.  Not as good as the original three...


If I ever said something that stupid, I would shave my ***, and shoot myself.


I agree, but MIC do you have an ***?
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 25, 2006, 09:33:10 PM
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Originally posted by drenrin2120
Hollywood knew it would cause a lot of controversy and therefore, sell a lot of tickets. So they weren't worried as much about actual quality... Greedy bastards... So glad I saw it for free.


WILL PEOPLE ******* SHUT UP ABOUT HOLLYWOOD AND OTHER VARIOUS CORPERATIONS DOING THINGS TO "RUIN" A SERIES!?!?

My god... it's a corperation's job to make money. It doesn't matter if it's what you want or not, just as long as you keep going back to them and they get your cash. It's their job to make money, and if they choose to preserve quality of the few over money making AND pleasing the most (the most being people with low standard intellegence, so says the statics), then they arn't a very good corperation. The Da Vinci Code made a huge sum of money, and people still continue to watch movies, so I see no way as to what the makers did wrong.


Just because they made money doesn't mean they didn't ruin a good thing. Maybe not from their profit standpoint, but from the overall quality and fulfillment one can recieve when purchasing or using their product. If a corporation has made a product which I felt used my time well I will continue to support the corp. But if I pay for their product and it is not as personally fulfilling to myself as their past products, I am fully within my rights as a supporter of their country before and currently to say that they did in fact ruin a product if that is my belief.
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Post by: Spike21 on September 25, 2006, 10:20:30 PM
Halo...That is all i have to say.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 10:34:15 PM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
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Originally posted by drenrin2120
Hollywood knew it would cause a lot of controversy and therefore, sell a lot of tickets. So they weren't worried as much about actual quality... Greedy bastards... So glad I saw it for free.


WILL PEOPLE ******* SHUT UP ABOUT HOLLYWOOD AND OTHER VARIOUS CORPERATIONS DOING THINGS TO "RUIN" A SERIES!?!?

My god... it's a corperation's job to make money. It doesn't matter if it's what you want or not, just as long as you keep going back to them and they get your cash. It's their job to make money, and if they choose to preserve quality of the few over money making AND pleasing the most (the most being people with low standard intellegence, so says the statics), then they arn't a very good corperation. The Da Vinci Code made a huge sum of money, and people still continue to watch movies, so I see no way as to what the makers did wrong.


Just because they made money doesn't mean they didn't ruin a good thing. Maybe not from their profit standpoint, but from the overall quality and fulfillment one can recieve when purchasing or using their product. If a corporation has made a product which I felt used my time well I will continue to support the corp. But if I pay for their product and it is not as personally fulfilling to myself as their past products, I am fully within my rights as a supporter of their country before and currently to say that they did in fact ruin a product if that is my belief.


If they made a MegaMan 567956, and it sucked, and you think it ruined the series, would you then buy MegaMan 567957, because you did like the other 567955? If your answer is no, then it supports your point. If your answer is yes, it supports mine.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 25, 2006, 10:45:51 PM
I wouldn't buy the one that I think ruined it, but if a company has 567955 great games and 1 crappy one, I think that the ratio of great to suck justifys another purchase of the 567957th. However, if the 567957th game sucks, and I think plunged it even deeper than 567956th did, of course I wouldn't shell out cash for the 567958th. If you ate 80 bags of skittles and loved them, but bought one and it was horrible, would you never buy Skittles again from that one bad bag, or would you buy another to see if that was just a fluke? If that second was horrible, then you may not buy them again. But in a year or two, you'd probably buy a new bag wondering if they're good again.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 25, 2006, 11:51:21 PM
No, you're missing the catch. You already bought the one that you think ruined it, and you've already played and beaten it.

You can't honestly think one game ruins a series just by looking at it and not playing it. I mean, DMCry 3 looked the same as the others, but it was quite a bit worse as far as gameplay went.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 26, 2006, 12:00:48 AM
Typo in there, would not wouldn't, and I think my analogy shows that. If we were dealing in a situation based on my support of a comp. and the borrow option was out I would have no choice but to buy and test. If I buy a game and I think it ruins the series, I'll buy the next one because of my faith in it's former success. However if that sucks as well, then any immediate further games I wouldn't purchase. Down the road maybe I will pick up a newer one after the ones I disliked to see if the company has again made a product I think is worthy of my time, but if it hasn't I will cease to supprt the company.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 26, 2006, 12:04:26 AM
Here's where it gets to where I want.

Who do you blame? The makers, or all of Capcom? (I think capcom made Megaman... I dunno)
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 26, 2006, 12:11:33 AM
With a game like Capcom, the makers ARE Capcom. MegaMan is not a game developed by a third party developer other than themselves then produced and distributed by Capcom, it is made BY Capcom. The company approves of any action taken by the makers. So yes, I would blame Capcom. As with FF, some say FF
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 26, 2006, 12:55:37 AM
That's true. However, for movies, they blame Hollywood, which pisses me off.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 26, 2006, 12:58:27 AM
Hollywood is different than games. Its a different method of production. I usually at least know the names of people I hate so I can insult them personally, but meh.
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Post by: Archem on September 26, 2006, 01:43:42 AM
Having fun, you two?
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Post by: gamerman4 on September 26, 2006, 01:58:15 AM
Even though I have more hours logged in FF7 than any other game I have.....It is overrated but not NEARLY as bad as Halo....comeon...Halo sucked so hard. I beat the damn thing and STILL couldnt find any way it was better than any of my other FPS games. Hell I had more fun playing Serious Sam 2 and that has no story value whatsoever, then again some people worship Master Chief....I think Gordon Freeman could kill him hehe...sic DOG on him...:P

As for movies....currently even though Snakes on a Plane was a decent movie it was WAAAAAAY overrated.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 26, 2006, 01:59:50 AM
SoaP was hyped up, not overrated. Theres a difference.
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Post by: Drace on September 26, 2006, 03:32:45 AM
About the Passion of Christ: MEL GIBSON MAN! MEL GIBSON! STFU AND GTFO NOOB

About Naruto: Hey, I actually like this anime. And I'm a big tv / movie critic.

Another overrated show: Surface. Seriously, it sucked. I've watched all episode so I'm allowed to say it.

Two underrated shows: Invasion and Threshold. RIP you two.
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Post by: MrMister on September 26, 2006, 04:14:24 PM
I think we're missing the point. Skittles are always awesome.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 26, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
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I think we're missing the point. Skittles are always awesome.


That´s the point alright...But they´re so expensive.
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Post by: Revolution911 on September 26, 2006, 06:02:14 PM
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I think we're missing the point. Skittles are always awesome.


That�s the point alright...But they�re so expensive.

Go to your local bodayga. (I think thats how you spell it, the spanish corner store) THey sell candy for 50 cents.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 26, 2006, 07:10:04 PM
Nothing is overrated. Something is only good if someone thinks it is. Therefore, if a certain amount of people love it, It really is that good.

So there.
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Post by: Black Massacre on September 26, 2006, 07:11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Moosetroop11
Nothing is overrated. Something is only good if someone thinks it is. Therefore, if a certain amount of people love it, It really is that good.

So there.


Oh, you all got punk'd.
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Post by: Archem on September 26, 2006, 09:15:43 PM
Very nicely put, Moosey.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 26, 2006, 09:23:36 PM
You guys can't seriously think that MooseTroop11 is right.

I could use the same point he made to disprove his own point.

"Nothing is perfect. Something is only overated if someone thinks it is. Therefore, if a certain amount of people believe it's overrated, It really is rated higher then it should be. Even if it's only in the eyes of one person, that still makes it qualify as being overrated in that person's personal opinion."
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Post by: Archem on September 26, 2006, 09:32:44 PM
True, true. I suppose at this point it depends on which party has more voters: The "Overrated"s or the "Enjoyee"s. It would seem it isn't overrated if more fans exist than demoters, so it wouldn't be overrated, and if more people feel it's overrated than those who enjoy it, it can't truly be overrated. Oh crap, I accidentally debunked MIC...
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Post by: Drace on September 27, 2006, 05:01:40 AM
Fact: Things get overrated.
Fact: Saying something is overrated is your opinion which you might share with several others.
Fact: Farting is good for you.
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Post by: Apex on September 27, 2006, 06:56:52 AM
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Originally posted by Drace
Fact: Things get overrated.
Fact: Saying something is overrated is your opinion which you might share with several others.
Fact: Farting is good for you.


I found that very stupid and pointless.
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Post by: Drace on September 27, 2006, 09:42:20 AM
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Originally posted by Apex
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Originally posted by Drace
Fact: Things get overrated.
Fact: Saying something is overrated is your opinion which you might share with several others.
Fact: Farting is good for you.


I found that very stupid and pointless.


Stupid and pointless, your opinion. But it's the truth.
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Post by: Apex on September 27, 2006, 11:27:50 AM
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Originally posted by Apex
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Originally posted by Drace
Fact: Thongs get overrated.
Fact: Saying something is out dated is your opinion which you might shave with several others.
Fact: Fating is good for you.


I found that very stupid and pointless.


Stupid and pointless, your opinion. But it's the truth.



Making my opinion absolute.

OBEY.
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Post by: Drace on September 27, 2006, 12:11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
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Originally posted by Apex
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Originally posted by Drace
Fact: Thongs get overrated.
Fact: Saying something is out dated is your opinion which you might shave with several others.
Fact: Fating is good for you.


I found that very stupid and pointless.


Stupid and pointless, your opinion. But it's the truth.



Making my opinion absolute.

OBEY.


STFU>FO
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Post by: MrMister on September 27, 2006, 02:38:11 PM
Quality is not the result of any majority of people..
Quality is something more tangible than that. Everyone has to make their own decisions. MooseTroop is the worst Chara ever.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 27, 2006, 02:52:30 PM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
You guys can't seriously think that MooseTroop11 is right.

I could use the same point he made to disprove his own point.

"Nothing is perfect. Something is only overated if someone thinks it is. Therefore, if a certain amount of people believe it's overrated, It really is rated higher then it should be. Even if it's only in the eyes of one person, that still makes it qualify as being overrated in that person's personal opinion."


MT11 is right, but then there is no discussion and therefore no fun...
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 27, 2006, 05:32:33 PM
How is he right? Opinionated, he's right, but factually, he's wrong. I just posted viable proof. What more do you want?
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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 27, 2006, 05:55:09 PM
Simple: there´s no truth in this world. Every simgle fact that occurs in our world is the result of a filtering our heads make when we get in contact with that thing! There´s no right or wrong, really. There´s no good and bad: it´s all relative.

FF7, for me, is one of the best RPGs out there. Many think it is overrated. Who´s right? Who´s gonna tell us who´s right? Would this person be right anyway? Why?

They say that if one person tell you "X" and you tell her "Y" you may be right. They also say that is three people tell you "X" and you still says "Y", you´re the one who's wrong. DOes that seem right? Why can´t those three be wrong.

Arguing and discussing about things is in human nature: doing this we improve in many ways, we change minds and we make our living. But it is still pointless, since it could be all wrong.

See, you´ll read this and probably say I´m wrong. So, who´s wrong? Who´s gonna tell us who´s wrong or right? Would this person be right? Why?

What is overrated and what´s not, and why?
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Post by: Apex on September 27, 2006, 06:15:22 PM
Here's a fact, Zelda Sells, Final Fantasy Sells, Metal Gear Solid Sells, Halo Sells and Mario Sells.

Overated is an opinion, but by the way people are basing the saying "______ is overated." It is soley because it has a large fan base, which is caused, and contributes to large Sale numbers.

Computers sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Cars sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Charas has alot of members, therefore it is overated.
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Post by: Drace on September 27, 2006, 06:16:47 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Simple: there´s no truth in this world. Every simgle fact that occurs in our world is the result of a filtering our heads make when we get in contact with that thing! There´s no right or wrong, really. There´s no good and bad: it´s all relative.

FF7, for me, is one of the best RPGs out there. Many think it is overrated. Who´s right? Who´s gonna tell us who´s right? Would this person be right anyway? Why?

They say that if one person tell you "X" and you tell her "Y" you may be right. They also say that is three people tell you "X" and you still says "Y", you´re the one who's wrong. DOes that seem right? Why can´t those three be wrong.

Arguing and discussing about things is in human nature: doing this we improve in many ways, we change minds and we make our living. But it is still pointless, since it could be all wrong.

See, you´ll read this and probably say I´m wrong. So, who´s wrong? Who´s gonna tell us who´s wrong or right? Would this person be right? Why?

What is overrated and what´s not, and why?


God, Allah and Buddah said it was overrated. Yeah, what ya gonna do 'bout that, punk?
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Post by: Almeidaboo on September 27, 2006, 06:17:03 PM
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Originally posted by Apex
Here's a fact, Zelda Sells, Final Fantasy Sells, Metal Gear Solid Sells, Halo Sells and Mario Sells.

Overated is an opinion, but by the way people are basing the saying "______ is overated." It is soley because it has a large fan base, which is caused, and contributes to large Sale numbers.

Computers sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Cars sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Charas has alot of members, therefore it is overated.


Which proves my point. Thanks!
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 27, 2006, 08:06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Apex
Here's a fact, Zelda Sells, Final Fantasy Sells, Metal Gear Solid Sells, Halo Sells and Mario Sells.

Overated is an opinion, but by the way people are basing the saying "______ is overated." It is soley because it has a large fan base, which is caused, and contributes to large Sale numbers.

Computers sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Cars sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Charas has alot of members, therefore it is overated.


Which proves my point. Thanks!


You had no point other then points that have already previously been expressed.

Aside from that, asking "why" hardly provides a 'point'.
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Post by: Razor on September 27, 2006, 08:19:30 PM
I'd hate to break the little love fest, but doesn't over rating come from people saying "THIS IS THE SINGLE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD, NO OTHER GAME IN THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND CAN SURPASS IT" and having millions of other people agree, only for you to find out that it A) clearly ISN'T the best game in the world, and possibly B) it has quite a lot of flaws that make the game unenjoyable, or make the story terrible etc

?

Because that was a question, I ended it with a question mark.
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Post by: Revolution911 on September 27, 2006, 08:22:42 PM
I coulda sworn the entire overrate thing was all opinion.
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Post by: Razor on September 27, 2006, 08:26:53 PM
Well put it this way, everybody knows that FF7 is overrated. Because a few million fans had orgasms at the game, promising everyone else who hadn't yet played it something uber sweet. But then they played it and were bitterly disappointed, I don't know why, maybe they are homosexuals. The point is, if everyone knows something, doesn't that make it fact?
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 27, 2006, 08:27:58 PM
It is.

I'm now laughing at how Almeidaboo massively contradicted himself.
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Post by: Revolution911 on September 27, 2006, 09:31:21 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
Well put it this way, everybody knows that FF7 is overrated. Because a few million fans had orgasms at the game, promising everyone else who hadn't yet played it something uber sweet. But then they played it and were bitterly disappointed, I don't know why, maybe they are homosexuals. The point is, if everyone knows something, doesn't that make it fact?


Well...thats kinda...alot fo words.
But I was supporting you when I said that so...Idk if you took it wrong or....


....

Kangaroos suck.
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Post by: Emerates on September 27, 2006, 10:12:22 PM
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The point is, if everyone knows something, doesn't that make it fact?


Not to bash on you or anything, Razor, but a couple hundred years ago, everyone 'knew' the Earth was flat, yet it is a fact that is in fact roughly spherical in shape.  Knowledge is not truth if the knowledge you are given is false.  So, when people say that FF7 IS the uber-game of the universe, and everyone knows it, it's not necessarily a fact.  Besides that, that information will become outdated when a new and better uber-game is developed and released.

Two-pence' worth of opinion, please do not destroy me for it.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 27, 2006, 11:05:16 PM
A fact is merely a belief that is proved to be right but is yet to be proven wrong due to the limits in technology at the time. A theory is a belief that is yet to be proven right by technology at the time.
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Post by: Archem on September 28, 2006, 12:15:50 AM
Teeth are overrated.

Get used to being a fanboy, or lose the tooth(s).
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 28, 2006, 02:00:21 AM
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Teeth are overrated.

Get used to being a fanboy, or lose the tooth(s).


Is this a joke or a point or what? I find it neither relavent or funny.
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Post by: Razor on September 28, 2006, 04:12:57 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
The point is, if everyone knows something, doesn't that make it fact?


Not to bash on you or anything, Razor, but a couple hundred years ago, everyone 'knew' the Earth was flat, yet it is a fact that is in fact roughly spherical in shape.  Knowledge is not truth if the knowledge you are given is false.  So, when people say that FF7 IS the uber-game of the universe, and everyone knows it, it's not necessarily a fact.  Besides that, that information will become outdated when a new and better uber-game is developed and released.

Two-pence' worth of opinion, please do not destroy me for it.

In my defense, everyone was retarded back then.
Actually, while on this subject, there is a forum out there that actually believe that the Earth is flat. They are called Flat Earthers.
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Post by: Drace on September 28, 2006, 04:43:56 AM
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Originally posted by Emerates
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Originally posted by Razor
The point is, if everyone knows something, doesn't that make it fact?


Not to bash on you or anything, Razor, but a couple hundred years ago, everyone 'knew' the Earth was flat, yet it is a fact that is in fact roughly spherical in shape.  Knowledge is not truth if the knowledge you are given is false.  So, when people say that FF7 IS the uber-game of the universe, and everyone knows it, it's not necessarily a fact.  Besides that, that information will become outdated when a new and better uber-game is developed and released.

Two-pence' worth of opinion, please do not destroy me for it.

In my defense, everyone was retarded back then.
Actually, while on this subject, there is a forum out there that actually believe that the Earth is flat. They are called Flat Earthers.


*goes to Google and searches Flat Earthers*

Well I couldn't find the forum, but I did found lots of sites of retarded people who think the world is flat. We should just all kidnap them, tie 'em up, throw 'em on a boat and make them travel 'round the world.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 28, 2006, 08:33:19 AM
In answer to all arguments vs my last post, a game is made so that people enjoy it. If someone loves a game and is a fanboy of it etc then they clearly loved it. Therefore the game has achieved it's objective. Therefore it's of high quality.

You know I'm riiiiiight;)
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Post by: Drace on September 28, 2006, 12:11:50 PM
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You know I'm riiiiiight;)


Nope, still think you're wrong.
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Post by: Razor on September 28, 2006, 08:23:15 PM
As much as I try to make a point of not agreeing with Drace, I agree with Drace.

Why isn't it this simple? When a something is rated it is given a rating. When something is overrated it is given a rating higher than what it deserves.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 28, 2006, 08:27:33 PM
It's not simple because it's opinionated and interperated.
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Post by: Razor on September 28, 2006, 08:39:05 PM
Waterworld is the best movie ever.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on September 28, 2006, 08:45:48 PM
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Waterworld is the best movie ever.


Score.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 28, 2006, 10:49:51 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
Waterworld is the best movie ever.


Score.


Da girl gits naked.
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Post by: Drace on September 29, 2006, 08:38:27 AM
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Waterworld is the best movie ever.


Now Waterworld, is underrated.
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Post by: Domo_46_Kun on September 30, 2006, 04:01:36 AM
FF7

most underrated is FF6
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Post by: Linkizcool on September 30, 2006, 04:16:20 AM
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Zelda is really over-rated.


No it's not.
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Post by: Zerlina on September 30, 2006, 12:16:46 PM
THE OMEGA SEAL











...just kidding :P
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Post by: Cosmos on September 30, 2006, 01:45:15 PM
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Originally posted by Apex
Here's a fact, Zelda Sells, Final Fantasy Sells, Metal Gear Solid Sells, Halo Sells and Mario Sells.

Overated is an opinion, but by the way people are basing the saying "______ is overated." It is soley because it has a large fan base, which is caused, and contributes to large Sale numbers.

Computers sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Cars sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Charas has alot of members, therefore it is overated.


totally disagree, soemthing like ff7 is overrated because gay fans talk about it every second of their life. which is freakin annoying, and why do MALES CALLED SEPH SEPHY!??!? That is so gay, Cloud is gay... Vincent is emo....tifa's a slut, aeris is dead.. THANK GAWD, Yuffie was annoyin as hell.... Barret, well he was a bit whinie... only ones I really like was cat whatever and red13.
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Post by: Putrifier on September 30, 2006, 02:14:08 PM
Overrated is something with more credit than it deserves. I prefer ffIX to 7, 4 and 5 were also good, but im not gonna say '' OMG THIS GAME IS THAB3ST GAM3 1N TH3 0LE WOLD OMG WTF'' , there exist fanatics in this world, and the only cure for this is, well   :guns:  :frag:
copy?
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Post by: Robotam Plus on September 30, 2006, 02:34:45 PM
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Originally posted by Midnight,
 [STRIKE]That one chick you all love[/STRIKE]

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Originally posted by Apex
Here's a fact, Zelda Sells, Final Fantasy Sells, Metal Gear Solid Sells, Halo Sells and Mario Sells.

Overated is an opinion, but by the way people are basing the saying "______ is overated." It is soley because it has a large fan base, which is caused, and contributes to large Sale numbers.

Computers sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Cars sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Charas has alot of members, therefore it is overated.


totally disagree, soemthing like ff7 is overrated because gay fans talk about it every second of their life. which is freakin annoying, and why do MALES CALLED SEPH SEPHY!??!? That is so gay, Cloud is gay... Vincent is emo....tifa's a slut, aeris is dead.. THANK GAWD, Yuffie was annoyin as hell.... Barret, well he was a bit whinie... only ones I really like was cat whatever and red13.


I think most of the people who says something is overrated obviously never played the game. I'll admit, I've never played Halo. :p Except for one online match perhaps.
Truth is, you can't overrate something you've never seen or played, and you Mid haven't played ff7 for more than 10 minutes.
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Post by: Cosmos on September 30, 2006, 03:27:32 PM
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Originally posted by Midnight,
 That one chick you all love

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Originally posted by Apex
Here's a fact, Zelda Sells, Final Fantasy Sells, Metal Gear Solid Sells, Halo Sells and Mario Sells.

Overated is an opinion, but by the way people are basing the saying "______ is overated." It is soley because it has a large fan base, which is caused, and contributes to large Sale numbers.

Computers sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Cars sell alot, therefore they are overated.

Charas has alot of members, therefore it is overated.


totally disagree, soemthing like ff7 is overrated because gay fans talk about it every second of their life. which is freakin annoying, and why do MALES CALLED SEPH SEPHY!??!? That is so gay, Cloud is gay... Vincent is emo....tifa's a slut, aeris is dead.. THANK GAWD, Yuffie was annoyin as hell.... Barret, well he was a bit whinie... only ones I really like was cat whatever and red13.


I think most of the people who says something is overrated obviously never played the game. I'll admit, I've never played Halo. :p Except for one online match perhaps.
Truth is, you can't overrate something you've never seen or played, and you Mid haven't played ff7 for more than 10 minutes.


You just assumed and made an *** of yourself :p, I've played it, I've beaten the game. It was ok, not OMG THE COOLEST SHYTEZ I'VE EVER PLAYED. Which is why I think it's overrated, people think it had the greatests storyline ever. No, it was ok. Best characters? Um no.. Cloud was gay, like really gay. I liked Zack more, he was less emo and more  :happy: . Seph was meh, he was a good bad guy but there have been better... (Kefa.. he actually makes me laugh xD) and the storyline could've been improved. The fact that they're remaking it.. that's just sad. Now I'll never hear the end of Antisoul's FF7 PWNS U ALL!! LOLZORS.  :dry:
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Post by: Robotam Plus on September 30, 2006, 03:35:48 PM
All right, so you have played it. But Vincent isn't emo.  _veryangry_
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Post by: Cosmos on September 30, 2006, 03:39:49 PM
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Originally posted by Robotam Plus
All right, so you have played it. But Vincent isn't emo.  _veryangry_


He was so!! "OMG, why am I alive!? I killed Luicia!! (or whatever her name was) kill me now! I deserve to die! waaaaaahahahaaha, kill me please!!!  :( " He was so emo, a very cool emo tho.
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Post by: SaiKar on September 30, 2006, 03:44:49 PM
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All right, so you have played it. But Vincent isn't emo.  _veryangry_


Okay look, you're allowed to like the game, that's cool. But the line shall not be crossed. FF7 was a pretty dark game to begin with, and Vincent was so damn emo that it makes even over-compensating Sephiroth look cheerful by comparison.
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Post by: Cosmos on September 30, 2006, 03:59:44 PM
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I think we're missing the point. Skittles are always awesome.


That�s the point alright...But they�re so expensive.

Go to your local bodayga. (I think thats how you spell it, the spanish corner store) THey sell candy for 50 cents.


Pfft, not for me. It's 75, they even have the soda's for a 1.25  :dry:  bastards.

Waterworld was a good movie.  :happy:
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 30, 2006, 05:24:17 PM
Aww, maybe I was just pushing that point because I loved FF7 so much. Tifa and Vincent should make babies anyway, that's the important thing.
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Post by: Razor on September 30, 2006, 11:20:25 PM
I think all those FF7 people should have one baby.

It would occur through a process I haven't quite thought out yet, and the child would be a horrible mutant. With 27 chromosomes!
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Post by: Drace on September 30, 2006, 11:59:08 PM
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Originally posted by Razor
I think all those FF7 people should have one baby.

It would occur through a process I haven't quite thought out yet, and the child would be a horrible mutant. With 27 chromosomes!


You been watching the Doom movie? Shame on you!

 
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I think most of the people who says something is overrated obviously never played the game. I'll admit, I've never played Halo.


I say FFVII is overrated. I've finished it.

I say Halo is overrated. I've finished it.

FACT: Drace only rates stuff he's seen(Played, heared, whatever) for more than 50%.
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Post by: Razor on October 01, 2006, 12:07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Razor
I think all those FF7 people should have one baby.

It would occur through a process I haven't quite thought out yet, and the child would be a horrible mutant. With 27 chromosomes!


You been watching the Doom movie? Shame on you!

What the hell are you talking about?
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I think most of the people who says something is overrated obviously never played the game. I'll admit, I've never played Halo.


I say FFVII is overrated. I've finished it.

I say Halo is overrated. I've finished it.

FACT: Tytroll only rates stuff he's seen(Played, heared, whatever) for more than 50%.

I played both, and I enjoyed both.
I'd say they were overrated, the former more than the latter.
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Post by: Robotam Plus on October 01, 2006, 05:43:14 AM
Well, I did say most of the people, didn't I?
You Drace and Mid are like two exceptions of everything, which is why you belong together.  :)

Either that or you're lying.
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Post by: Drace on October 01, 2006, 09:09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Robotam Plus
Well, I did say most of the people, didn't I?
You Drace and Mid are like two exceptions of everything, which is why you belong together.  :)

Either that or you're lying.


Why would I lie? I have no chance with Mid, she lives to freaking far away. And why would I lie about how I think to any girl? Ya should know I'm not that type of person.

 
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What the hell are you talking about?


SPOILERS!!!:
In the movie Doom, the "demons from hell" are simply mutated people who have an extra chromosome.
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Post by: White Dwarf on October 01, 2006, 12:07:44 PM
Prolly Halo, I mean it sounds good and all. But ive played better FPS's and that...
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Post by: Cosmos on October 01, 2006, 07:22:50 PM
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Originally posted by Robotam Plus
Well, I did say most of the people, didn't I?
You Drace and Mid are like two exceptions of everything, which is why you belong together.  :)

Either that or you're lying.


Why would I lie? I have no chance with Mid, she lives to freaking far away. And why would I lie about how I think to any girl? Ya should know I'm not that type of person.


It's ok Drace, Robotam's jealous.
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Post by: Drace on October 01, 2006, 07:53:13 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
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Well, I did say most of the people, didn't I?
You Drace and Mid are like two exceptions of everything, which is why you belong together.  :)

Either that or you're lying.


Why would I lie? I have no chance with Mid, she lives to freaking far away. And why would I lie about how I think to any girl? Ya should know I'm not that type of person.


It's ok Drace, Robotam's jealous.


Yar. We're just too perfect for each other.
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Post by: Razor on October 02, 2006, 08:59:08 AM
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What the hell are you talking about?


SPOILERS!!!:
In the movie Doom, the "demons from hell" are simply mutated people who have an extra chromosome.

Yes, because Doom invented the extra chromosome, and any time anyone says something about extra chromosomes, it has to be a direct reference to Doom.

Or, I could have just been making a point that people in the know would understand.
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Post by: MrMister on October 02, 2006, 01:16:09 PM
An extra chromosome doesn't make them mutants.. it makes them inhuman. Then, by definition, people with Down's syndrome aren't people either. But is that so hard to believe?
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Post by: Drace on October 02, 2006, 03:22:35 PM
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An extra chromosome doesn't make them mutants.. it makes them inhuman. Then, by definition, people with Down's syndrome aren't people either. But is that so hard to believe?


Not really. Look at their faces *bursts out in laughture*
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 02, 2006, 05:53:22 PM
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An extra chromosome doesn't make them mutants.. it makes them inhuman. Then, by definition, people with Down's syndrome aren't people either. But is that so hard to believe?


Exactly. Hermaphrodites have both the X and Y chromosome, but are they inhuman?
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Post by: Razor on October 02, 2006, 07:35:44 PM
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Originally posted by MrMister
An extra chromosome doesn't make them mutants.. it makes them inhuman. Then, by definition, people with Down's syndrome aren't people either. But is that so hard to believe?


Not really. Look at their faces *bursts out in laughture*

You know, **** everything Raffles ever said, this is the single most worst thing I've ever read on these forums.
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Post by: Drace on October 02, 2006, 09:11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Drace
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Originally posted by MrMister
An extra chromosome doesn't make them mutants.. it makes them inhuman. Then, by definition, people with Down's syndrome aren't people either. But is that so hard to believe?


Not really. Look at their faces *bursts out in laughture*

You know, **** everything Raffles ever said, this is the single most worst thing I've ever read on these forums.


AT LEAST I'm not making fun of CANCER! *points at Razor's sig*