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Title: sonic: crystal chronicals
Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 12:08:20 PM
hi guys, i'm back.  sorry about what happened earlier this year.  anyways, i've decided to work on a new game.  but enought about me, let's get to the game:

story:  in the year 2050, eggman is stuck in the egg carrier, his last stronghold.  sonic and his friends have him cornered.  they battle through the system for a long time until they get to eggman.  when it looks like he's beaten, he pulls out a new eapon and fires a beam of light at everybody.  when they got hit by the light, they turned into crystals.  eggman then took the crystals and hid them around the world, to make sure that nobody could find them and free sonic & friends from crystals.

flash foward 5 years:

the world is run by eggman, and his robots maintain authority.  Sean, a guy in colledge, is preparing for the cross-country nationals.  while he was training, he accidentally fell down a steep slope into a cave.  when he got up, he saw a blue crystal.  what he didn't know was that when he picked it up, his life was about to change forever.

i would put in more, but i have to get off.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 02, 2006, 07:34:40 PM
tis gme sunds mch coolre tehn ur ohter gams!
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 07:36:14 PM
Lemme guess, he turns into Sonic?
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 07:40:43 PM
no, he learns of how evil eggman really is, and that he must stop him.

by the way, the crystals will be a key factor in battles.
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Post by: Archem on October 02, 2006, 07:41:19 PM
*yawn*
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 07:44:45 PM
Pix don't do that. It stretches the forum.
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 07:45:19 PM
what did i do?

if there is something i could do to make it interesting, let me know, and i'll do it.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 02, 2006, 07:46:40 PM
dn't cange a thng tis gmae sonds so col!
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 07:51:07 PM
well, i'm gonna need some help with the soundtrack and making the sprites for the characters for this game.  one, i stink at making sprites, and i always will.  two, even i need help, and this game can't be done without a little help from you guys.

if somebody helps me with these things, i'll put thier name in credits as a 'thank you' present.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 08:07:56 PM
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one, i stink at making sprites, and i always will.


That comment alone makes me certain this game is going nowhere.
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 08:15:58 PM
i asked for help.

ok, so i stink at making sprites, but don't make fun of me just because i asked for help.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 08:18:35 PM
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Originally posted by ancara
ok, so i stink at making sprites, but don't make fun of me just because i asked for help.


Wasn't making fun, it was the attitude of the statement. "I can't do this, and I never can so now I have an excuse to not even try" instead of "I can't do this, so I need to practice at it until I can".

What if you run into a part where you don't know how to code it? By that statement, you'll just not ry it because you dont want to and tell yourself you can't.
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 08:20:34 PM
i CAN make the towns and the enimies and that crud.

i just need help making the characters' sprites and getting the soundtrack ready.  that's all i'll have trouble with.
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on October 02, 2006, 08:22:42 PM
I think what the others are trying to say is this:

This would have been cool, if Sega Made it, called it Sonic RPG,
made it for the genesis and published it in 1997.
And you were a 12 year old.

the concept is boring, at best.

Fangames usually suck....And an RPG with a spriter that stinks, usually suck..
Sonic the hedgehog, is cheesy and dated.

Aside from this, I think you are on a winning formula
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 02, 2006, 08:23:15 PM
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Originally posted by ancara
i CAN make the towns and the enimies and that crud.


mE 2 we'ur so cool!
Title: crystal system
Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 08:30:51 PM
oh well.

anyways, i'm gonna work on a system for the crystals, where you can find a special energy that allows you to learn new attacks whenever you put it in your crystal, thus giving you more abilities that the sonic character trapped inside of it hides.

EXAMPLE:

at the start of the game, when sean gets the crystal, a strange energy enters the crystal and he gains the ability to spin dash, just like sonic, in battles.

what i'm trying to say, is that in the game, there will be a lot of this kind of energy to find and collect, to learn new techniques.  but sometimes, to get that energy, ya have to beat a boss.

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anyways, i'll leave ya with this info.  i'll update when i get something good done, ok?

with that, i'm off.
Title: WTF?
Post by: aboutasoandthis on October 02, 2006, 09:44:37 PM
2 questions. One, how did this get 2 pages in a day? Two, you're a guy?

That was not meant to be offensive, at all...shut up.

I think the best advice I could give you ancara, is to wait until you're far in the way of finishing with your games before you even tell us about it.

Have at least 4 screenshots, not including the Title Screen. You can have one battle screen and no more. You'll need 3 extra screens. I'd suggest one to show off your mapping skills, one that's story related, and one that shows off a minigame or CMS or something.

If you have that, it'll look like you spent a lot of time on the game. THEN people will help you. It worked for me.  :)

Come back in a month or two with this. Again, not being mean.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 02, 2006, 09:50:26 PM
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Stuff.


Read these: http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=17149&forumid=22&catid=8

http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=16783&forumid=44&catid=6

http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=16712&forumid=11&catid=4

http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=16018&forumid=11&catid=4
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 10:07:15 PM
i would try to show a battle shot for ya, but i said that i stink at making character sprites, so give me a while to find whatever i can use until i can get better stuff, ok?

by the way, i got a really good song for the intro.  here it is:

http://charas-project.net/resources/Midi/6203_1102746062.mid
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 10:20:46 PM
Of all the Sonic songs, Follw Me isn't the best bet. I wouldn't even use Open Your Heart or Live and Learn. Maybe use green hill zone or something.
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 10:31:21 PM
well, here's what i had planned for the intro:

first, we'll see Sean running across the landscape, preparing for the nationals.  he then stops to talk to a couple of his friends.  he then continue running.  he then accidentally falls off the cliff he was running across and he ends up in a cave.  that's when the music is changed to a cave-like theme. he then walks around and finds a crystal.  curiosity gets the better of him.  he picks it up and the crystal shows a ruined landscape.  it shows sonic & friends trying to enter to egg carrier.  then a battle starts with sonic and a robot setinal.  then they get to eggman.  then eggman hits them with the weapon and they turn into crystals.  he then scatters them across the world and the crystal stops showing it.  then sean takes the crystal and leaves.

is this a good intro?
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 10:35:08 PM
Why is a cave near where they're holding a track meet, much less an undiscoverd cave?
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Post by: ancara on October 02, 2006, 10:38:15 PM
well, don't you think they WOULD put the path near a cave if they knew about it?
Title: Settle Down Meis
Post by: aboutasoandthis on October 02, 2006, 10:41:44 PM
I knew about ancara a LLLLLOOOOONNNGGG time ago. Since the second game. Remember, I used to snoop. I just try to be nice.

I agree with the Sandwich. Maybe in Cross Country, but it wouldn't be undiscoverd. They map the race out.

It would've been better if you used screens for your intro.

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I didn't really read it. He just went off running into nowhere getting lost and found an undiscovered cave.

Don't say ok.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 10:54:55 PM
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well, don't you think they WOULD put the path near a cave if they knew about it?


Either rewrite that in a coherent manner, or emphasize the right word.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 02, 2006, 11:10:50 PM
Gosh this story zounds so freaking cool doesnt it? It is cooler then Meiscool...

That was sarcasm, To me, it makes no sense, especially if this sean guy is a human, I do not remeber ANY sonic games with humans whats over

No i am not as expierienced as most of these guys (FAR FROM IT) but to me your story sucks
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 02, 2006, 11:14:08 PM
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Originally posted by Anubis_Soldier
Gosh this story zounds so freaking cool doesnt it? It is cooler then Meiscool...

That was sarcasm, To me, it makes no sense, especially if this sean guy is a human, I do not remeber ANY sonic games with humans whats over

No i am not as expierienced as most of these guys (FAR FROM IT) but to me your story sucks


Have you even PLAYED a Sonic game? Robotnik IS human.
Title: Sprites... giving up is automatically losing.
Post by: Domo_46_Kun on October 02, 2006, 11:17:36 PM
OK.  The story to this game seems to suck... hard.  Using already created characters

But about when you said you suck now at making sprites and always will...

I started making a metroid fangame which would have played similar to SW Battlefront with some friends a while ago (about 2 years) and at first I sucked at spriting.  I sucked hard.  Within a few weeks though, I was the main spriter on the team and was spriting completely custom G-Fed commandos, Luminoth,

Sadly, the game (metroid: dark echoes  and the counterpart  metroid: the X factor) was cancelled due to me getting addicted to MMORPGS (dont let it happen to you.)  If this sounds familiar to anyone I would maybe like to get the project started again.  I used to go under the screen names Peter12311 and DestinyTomorrow.

Anyways, the lesson here is practice makes perfect.  I used to suck, now I don't.  I've posted some of my sprites that are custom so you see that although you suck now, you won't always.  If you come up with a better plot and/or make it more original, I might teach you how to sprite a little.  My Yahoo instant messenger is GravityCat_v3.

Took my graphics out for now because they looked sucky-ish stretched and stuff.  I might post them in the gallery.

So you see, I, a complete n00b at sprites and graphics, have become better, as can you.  If you need help with the story and stuff, you can also ask me for help on how to make an original story and title.  I just like to help people I guess =/

And if you actually want to finish a game give it a good plot that captivates you into wanting to finish it.

NONE of these are made in photoshop.  It's not required to make sprites and I personally find it confusing in relation to the program I use.  It's free.  Send me a message on YIM to get the program, because i'm too lazy to find the link now =P

BTW, off topic, but my new sig rocks, doesn't it?
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Post by: Archem on October 02, 2006, 11:20:46 PM
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Have you even PLAYED a Sonic game? Robotnik IS human.

You know what he means.

And for the record, Robotnik is inhuman. 'Cuz he's the bad guy.
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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 02, 2006, 11:30:54 PM
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Originally posted by Anubis_Soldier
Gosh this story zounds so freaking cool doesnt it? It is cooler then Meiscool...

That was sarcasm, To me, it makes no sense, especially if this sean guy is a human, I do not remeber ANY sonic games with humans whats over

No i am not as expierienced as most of these guys (FAR FROM IT) but to me your story sucks


Have you even PLAYED a Sonic game? Robotnik IS human.


one guy... well, if there are more there is a short amount of them
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 03, 2006, 12:19:04 AM
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Originally posted by Anubis_Soldier
Gosh this story zounds so freaking cool doesnt it? It is cooler then Meiscool...

That was sarcasm, To me, it makes no sense, especially if this sean guy is a human, I do not remeber ANY sonic games with humans whats over

No i am not as expierienced as most of these guys (FAR FROM IT) but to me your story sucks


Have you even PLAYED a Sonic game? Robotnik IS human.


one guy... well, if there are more there is a short amount of them


They're in the Adventure series too.
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Post by: ancara on October 04, 2006, 11:42:38 AM
well, 2 announcments:

1.) i've discovered that this'll take longer than i thought.

2.) i'm starting on the enemies in the game.
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on October 04, 2006, 03:29:41 PM
I think you should just end the game when the dork falls off of the cliff.
Freakin Funny.




Seriously though.....what kind of an Idiot falls into a cliff while running?
Maybe he should here a call for help or something...A baby, or hit girl.

And I dont know where youre gonna find a sprite for a spin-dashing human. its gonna look silly..


I wish you luck. Because with a weak story like this, youre gonna need it. Luck and mad programming skills. Wait.....scratch that last one. It dosent matter how mad your skills are......the game is weak dude.

But Id play it once just out of curiosity.

And to see how RTP sprites fit along side Sonic Sprites. I know it will be bad, but.....damn.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 04, 2006, 04:05:42 PM
>.> You do realise this'll take a couple of years right?

I admire the fact that you're carrying on despite everyone hating the story. I mean, it is a load of crap but big respect for doing it anyway :p
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on October 04, 2006, 04:14:29 PM
Im in total agreeance with moosetroop.

I know if I had this many people that thought my stolry was stinky horrible garbae consisting of used diapers and feminine products, laced with a steaming dogpile, Id scrap the project.

It's very admirable.
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Post by: ancara on October 05, 2006, 11:02:53 PM
first, we'll see Sean running across the landscape, preparing for the nationals. he then stops to talk to a couple of his friends. he then continue running. he then accidentally falls off the cliff he was running across and he ends up in a cave. that's when the music is changed to a cave-like theme. he then walks around and finds a crystal. curiosity gets the better of him. he picks it up and the crystal shows a ruined landscape. it shows sonic & friends trying to enter to egg carrier. then a battle starts with sonic and a robot setinal. then they get to eggman. then eggman hits them with the weapon and they turn into crystals. he then scatters them across the world and the crystal stops showing it. then sean takes the crystal and leaves.  the next day, when he's training, two robots appear.  they ask for him to come with him.  he goes with them and they take him to eggman.  eggman welcomes him and talks about the work he put into his fortress.  he asks for Sean to give him the blue crystal he has.  he said he won't, because he knows the truth about him.  eggman pushes a button and two robot setinals and orders them to get the crystal.  then you fight the robots and afterwards, you run all the way through the fortress (i'm considering to put a minigame somewhere in here).    he then decides to get out of the place so he can figure out what to do next.  he then goes to his parents and tell them he's "going to the nationals" and him and a friend of his leave the city, traveling on the road.

that's the full intro.  good enough?
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Post by: Emerates on October 06, 2006, 12:30:44 AM
I skipped the middle.  IF I hadn't, I'd have spontaneously combusted.  There's just too many damn words there.

Intro
LAMETER[||||||||||]||
Yes, it goes outside the meter.  To be overly critical, this game will not be liked by anyone over the age of 10, even by Sonic fans such as mineself.

IF you continue to pursue this game, I would suggest not making your main dude a human, 'cause anyone can do that.  This takes place on Mobius, where there are sentient animals.  Make him a frickin' badger or something.
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Post by: Bluhman on October 06, 2006, 12:58:20 AM
In a case like this, I'd start fresh. This is coming from a man who never completes his projects. This is also coming from a man who makes pretty good games, so do what you will.
Title: i feel so confused
Post by: ancara on October 06, 2006, 11:03:44 PM
sorry, i wanted to try something new.

i thought that this would finally give people a new experience of the sonic universe.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 07, 2006, 01:24:46 AM
This is crap.

If you believed what I said about "dis is best gme evba!" you my friend, are a huge moron.
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Post by: SonicChaos7 on October 07, 2006, 03:25:56 AM
You will never give a new experience to the Sonic universe. For one, you're using a FAR inferior program to make a true RPG. EVen if you did make it, who's gonna play it? Sonic has always been a platformer, and it should stay that way. If you want to make a Sonic game, learn C++ and whatnot and make a REAL game.
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Post by: InsaneJP on October 07, 2006, 04:24:44 PM
no offense but you spelt chronicles wrong mann just thought youd like to know
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Post by: Osmose on October 07, 2006, 04:57:18 PM
I'm not one to use acronyms, but Meis: STFU. You could probably spend the time it takes for you to insult people to work on  Recalcitrant (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=16411&forumid=11&catid=4) , Metal Tears (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=17045&forumid=11&catid=4&page=13) , or  Pact (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=13141&forumid=11&catid=4) . Your track record for completing a game is far from great. Although you might prove me wrong with Metal Tears, there's still no reason to be a dick.

I haven't really deeply read every post about the story, but from what I'm seeing there's a human ithat could possibly mbued with Sonic's powers. To me, that's pretty sick. Perhaps his hair could become colored blue and slicked back after finding the crystal?

Good luck on finding sprites!
Title: I am sorry...
Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 08, 2006, 07:13:45 PM
But this may be the worst story ever... what kinda moron falls off of a cliff?? I also doubt that a kid that does cross country could beat up robots after falling off of a cliff... And if eggman wanted the crystals... WHY DID HE HIDE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE... your story makes no sense to me what so ever. I think that you should scrap the project, and like the guy a few posts above me said, sonic is NOT an RPG
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Post by: Osmose on October 08, 2006, 09:04:40 PM
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But this may be the worst story ever... what kinda moron falls off of a cliff?? I also doubt that a kid that does cross country could beat up robots after falling off of a cliff... And if eggman wanted the crystals... WHY DID HE HIDE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE... your story makes no sense to me what so ever. I think that you should scrap the project, and like the guy a few posts above me said, sonic is NOT an RPG


You're picturing it that he just runs and jumps off of the cliff. The way I see it in my mind, he's taking a cliffSIDE route, like one that has a slightly narrow path across a cliff wall. He trips, and trips to the side just a bit too much and takes a fall. Not a big one, like maybe ten feet or so, but no one's really looked down there because it's all thick bushses and stuff.

Eggman wants the crystal because someone found it. He hid the specifically so no one would, but now that one has been discovered, he has to retake it and hide it somewhere else.

As for beating up the robots, they're weak robots - he didn't expect the kid to actually fight back. :P

Final Fantasy isn't a shooting game BUT THEY MADE IT INTO ONE ANYWAY. This isn't like an officially sanctioned Sega game. You can make an RPG out of anything - it's the RPG game system that we enjoy, what does it matter if the character is Sonic-related? It's hardly as if he's trying to trick you into thinking it's going to be a fast paced game. Were he to make the same game, with all the same exact systems and moves, and instead of Sonic say it was just a crystal with an ancient hero sealed in it(Robotnik being just an evil genius), you'd probably be more receptive, even though IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING, WITH NAMES CHANGED. That is pretty ridiculous, if you ask me.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 08, 2006, 09:11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Anubis_Soldier
But this may be the worst story ever... what kinda moron falls off of a cliff?? I also doubt that a kid that does cross country could beat up robots after falling off of a cliff... And if eggman wanted the crystals... WHY DID HE HIDE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE... your story makes no sense to me what so ever. I think that you should scrap the project, and like the guy a few posts above me said, sonic is NOT an RPG


You're picturing it that he just runs and jumps off of the cliff. The way I see it in my mind, he's taking a cliffSIDE route, like one that has a slightly narrow path across a cliff wall. He trips, and trips to the side just a bit too much and takes a fall. Not a big one, like maybe ten feet or so, but no one's really looked down there because it's all thick bushses and stuff.

Eggman wants the crystal because someone found it. He hid the specifically so no one would, but now that one has been discovered, he has to retake it and hide it somewhere else.

As for beating up the robots, they're weak robots - he didn't expect the kid to actually fight back. :P

Final Fantasy isn't a shooting game BUT THEY MADE IT INTO ONE ANYWAY. This isn't like an officially sanctioned Sega game. You can make an RPG out of anything - it's the RPG game system that we enjoy, what does it matter if the character is Sonic-related? It's hardly as if he's trying to trick you into thinking it's going to be a fast paced game. Were he to make the same game, with all the same exact systems and moves, and instead of Sonic say it was just a crystal with an ancient hero sealed in it(Robotnik being just an evil genius), you'd probably be more receptive, even though IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING, WITH NAMES CHANGED. That is pretty ridiculous, if you ask me.


Moose, let this guy defend his own game. It's his project.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 09, 2006, 12:15:13 AM
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Uh hello, three demos out for Metal Tears.

That sounds like pretty good game-completion to me.

What a moron XD.
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Post by: Osmose on October 09, 2006, 12:23:59 AM
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Moose, let this guy defend his own game. It's his project.


I'm fairly sure I'd be motivated a little more if I had someone defending me instead of having a bajillion people saying how my idea sucks. I'm just trying to help someone, whether they finish the game or not.

PS: Outpost, Sai'Kar's game, had a demo too - doesn't make it complete, just means you're working on it.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 09, 2006, 12:27:24 AM
A demo is a game in it's own.

Hence, 3 completed games.

ZOMG burn lol!!11
Title: You have 3 Demos?
Post by: aboutasoandthis on October 09, 2006, 01:13:12 AM
Or do you mean the story one coming out?

This is gonna end up like the last 3 ancara topics...
Title: BIG update
Post by: ancara on October 09, 2006, 01:39:45 AM
ok, i'm back!!!

came ta tell ya guys 3 things:

1.) i got most of the enemies ready to use for the game.

2.) things are looking good for the game.

3.) i'm working on a mini game about sean trying to get out of the fortress.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 09, 2006, 01:41:04 AM
No screens?
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Post by: Robotam Plus on October 09, 2006, 10:59:12 AM
The story isn't too bad. I, for one, beleive in this guy. All though I would rather see it being a platformer game. oo'