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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Season Three on October 27, 2006, 02:55:47 AM

Title: Charas Wikipedia Discussion
Post by: Season Three on October 27, 2006, 02:55:47 AM
YOU DIDN'T THINK I HAD ACTUALLY FORGOTTEN YOU, DID YOU CHARAS?

 :frag: DARKFOX!
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Post by: MrMister on October 27, 2006, 02:57:40 AM
Gimmick account, not Raffles.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 27, 2006, 02:58:10 AM
Happy birthday to you too!
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Post by: DeusExMachina on October 27, 2006, 02:58:14 AM
is this that  odious mad hatter dork again?
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Post by: SaiKar on October 27, 2006, 02:58:20 AM
Unfortunately it is Raffles -.-

Leave this one here a lil bit Mid.
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Post by: MrMister on October 27, 2006, 03:00:19 AM
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Unfortunately it is Raffles -.-

Leave this one here a lil bit Mid.

Raffles sure went downhill, post quality-wise.
;x
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Post by: Grandy on October 27, 2006, 03:02:38 AM
 I say, this ban was fast.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 27, 2006, 03:06:10 AM
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Unfortunately it is Raffles -.-

Leave this one here a lil bit Mid.

Raffles sure went downhill, post quality-wise.
;x


I know. The use of all caps and to the point statements threw me off.
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Post by: Darkfox on October 27, 2006, 03:14:00 AM
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Unfortunately it is Raffles -.-

Leave this one here a lil bit Mid.

Raffles sure went downhill, post quality-wise.
;x


I know. The use of all caps and to the point statements threw me off.


I think he might have a brain tumor from all the canabis.
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Post by: DeusExMachina on October 27, 2006, 03:17:22 AM
Cannabis is most likely to give testicular cancer. And Epidydimal cysts.

Its gotta be something Harder than that.
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Post by: Darkfox on October 27, 2006, 03:26:54 AM
I know one thing. Ow my text in all caps, it burns, it burns... XD!
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Post by: Grandy on October 27, 2006, 03:35:34 AM
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Cannabis is most likely to give testicular cancer.


 That's his brain as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: MrMister on October 27, 2006, 03:52:08 AM
Balls-brain.. that's a new one.
Anyone remember that MSN convo back in the day where Raffles told us stories about hookers and drugs? I think I have it saved in a txt file somewhere.

Edit: Yep, found it.
Edix: A third of the way through reading it...
bwahahahaha:
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Lord Raffles says:
Darkfox, I swear to you that before the month is through you'll take back that
∞ MrMr says:
Do something that works, like posting porn, if we can't get rid of you
∞ MrMr says:
You'll appear more intelligent
Lord Raffles says:
I gurantee that within four weeks; GIVE me four weeks and i'll songe away that smile
FFL2and3rocks - Raffles is AMAZING at fooling people into thinking he isn't Raffles! says:
"Oh I'm awesome, you will rue me, you will bow before my awesome forum-disrupting power, blah blah blah"
Darkfox - "Super crushyness of bone snapping doom!" -Me says:
And if you don't?
Harvey Steffke - Sai'Kar says:
Four weeks.
∞ MrMr says:
Your money back.
Davis~ says:
I'm Mr. Oogie Boogie man, and YOU ain't goin' nowhere.
FFL2and3rocks - Raffles is AMAZING at fooling people into thinking he isn't Raffles! says:
But wait! Order now and you'll get another one FREE!
Darkfox - "Super crushyness of bone snapping doom!" -Me says:
Will you admit your defeat if I keep on smiling?
 
 Warxe - "A magician never reveales their tricks." "That's why everyone hates magicians..." has been added to the conversation.
 
Lord Raffles says:
Darkfox
Lord Raffles says:
you wont smile
Lord Raffles says:
you couldn't keep smiling before
Lord Raffles says:
and that was childs play
Lord Raffles says:
compared to the Pandora's box you've opened
Lord Raffles says:
I have such delights to show you
Darkfox - "Super crushyness of bone snapping doom!" -Me says:
You want to place that bet dear Raffles?
∞ MrMr says:
Mmm.. Pantera box?
Lord Raffles says:
Charas downfall will be legendary
Warxe - "A magician never reveales their tricks." "That's why everyone hates magicians..." says:
You still haven't done anything, Raffles. I'm waiting.
∞ MrMr says:
'Delights', oh God you're frightening me.

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Harvey Steffke - Sai'Kar says:
THAT WAS THE ****ing BEST CHARAS CHAT EVER!
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Post by: Drace on October 27, 2006, 08:29:41 AM
Davis~ says:
I'm Mr. Oogie Boogie man, and YOU ain't goin' nowhere.

TREVLAC FTW

Also, Raffly-poo, don't act like an r-tard. Nublet.
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Post by: Razor on October 27, 2006, 11:29:42 AM
See, thing is, he thinks he's getting to us by destroying our wikipedia entry. But that's not for our satisfaction, it's so other people know about us.

And if he think's the mods here are fascist, God knows what he thinks of the wikimods. They are so much worse. :p
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Post by: WarxePB on October 27, 2006, 11:35:14 AM
I think I'm starting to agree with Darkfox: You have no life, sir Raffles.
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Post by: Glitch on October 27, 2006, 11:51:02 AM
Huh, I thought Raffles died or something.  I was off charas a while towards the end of the whole first Raffles incident. I was bummed to see I missed him get banned. He really was the sorriest excuse for a dissident ever.

I mean... attacking a wiki? That's like a terrorist attack in Wyoming, no one cares. Especially since he gloated while the wiki is still up, he should have at least waited to see if it even gets deleted.

Congrats raffles, we salute your stupidity
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Post by: Grandy on October 27, 2006, 01:12:04 PM
 You know, in the time in-beetwen Raffls, I made a theory, regerding how did we lose in every debate with him.

 It was quite simple: We didn't lose the debate, it wasn't a debate, it was our side trying to debate while his was just repeating the same thing over and over, it's like trying to argue with a chatBot. A charBot with suberb grammar, but still a chatBot.

 We all tried hardly to make sense, and tried to be sarcastical and look smart.

 He then would say something around the lines of "You are a retard as no one is, and you shall fear me!" we try and sound smart, and he say "Your pity attempt to look corageous is ridicule, and I shall strike Charas down!" See something familliar? It's an insult, followed by a "I'll pwn you!", or even only a "I'll pwn you" followed by an insult, or either of the two alone, nothing he says contributes for a discussion, yet he claims to have won every discussion he entered. Well, I'm sure he didn't LOST any, 'cause I really can't remember he discussing at all.

 So, yeah, I guess in his next attack I'll just do the same as his. A insult followed by a "I don't care", not discussion, it'll be two little kids with "Yes you do!" "No I don't!" "Yes you do!" "No I don't!".

 It'll be fun.
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Post by: Osmose on October 27, 2006, 03:20:49 PM
This thread still exists only because of my good nature to let people discuss what they want to discuss - otherwise I'd delete it for being a troll thread - wouldn't want to give a troll the attention they want, right? :P

Anywho, the reason we let Raffles ever cause an incident was because of two things - 1.The management hadn't had a lot of experience with trolling, and 2.The members couldn't comprehend the concept of trolling.

Plain and simple - Charas was dumb. It's still got a lot to learn about how to be a proper forum, but it's better now than it was before.
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Post by: DeusExMachina on October 27, 2006, 04:03:31 PM
If Charas had a Myspace page, Im sure he would send it like, 8 lame surveys, and leave a nasty comment. And then hed invite you to 3 homsexually themed pages.

Seriously, how bored does a dork have to be before coming back to an old grude on an internet forum, to vow revenge.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 27, 2006, 04:54:55 PM
Hmm? That makes no sense, I was pretty sure Raffles was above this sort of thing. You SURE it's him?
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on October 27, 2006, 05:14:48 PM
Yeah, the grammar and manner seems different from Raffles.
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Post by: Darkfox on October 27, 2006, 05:57:57 PM
It is him, make no doubt about it.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 27, 2006, 06:08:01 PM
Just saw the zelda thread. I changed my mind, you're right XD
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Post by: Grandy on October 27, 2006, 07:17:06 PM
What zelda thread? Did I miss something?
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Post by: Archem on October 27, 2006, 07:26:20 PM
http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=18445&forumid=44&catid=6  
Apparently, he lured some peeps in with the promise of Zelda-chat. By the way, LttP all the way!
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Post by: DeusExMachina on October 27, 2006, 07:29:07 PM
I dont know Raffles...Is there a thread around which one could read to understand why this fellow is detestable? Aside from the present material of course.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 27, 2006, 07:45:46 PM
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Originally posted by DeusExMachina
If Charas had a Myspace page, Im sure he would send it like, 8 lame surveys, and leave a nasty comment. And then hed invite you to 3 homsexually themed pages.

Seriously, how bored does a dork have to be before coming back to an old grude on an internet forum, to vow revenge.


...Were you even here when he first came?
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Post by: Darkfox on October 27, 2006, 07:51:29 PM
No, DeusExMachina was not. But I'm sure he has an understanding of his type. Raffles is pretty easy to place.
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Post by: DeusExMachina on October 27, 2006, 07:58:57 PM
That much was pretty much made obvious when he made his Zelda post...And then remarks like "Is that raffles/is he back AGAIN?"
And a quotes messenger convo....It gave itself away.
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Post by: Grandy on October 27, 2006, 08:10:48 PM
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http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=18445&forumid=44&catid=6  
Apparently, he lured some peeps in with the promise of Zelda-chat. By the way, LttP all the way!


 'K... that was weird.

 I mean, he acts like as if he was Jesus or something, but less miraculous, and more gay.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 27, 2006, 10:02:07 PM
I wasn't here when he first came, but I'v been around for tons of second comings. Funny guy he is.
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Post by: Glitch on October 27, 2006, 10:17:14 PM
You missed out Sammich. The whole event was hilarious, in a weird way. It was like watching an 8 year old argue with a professor, it was great to watch, always kept me laughing.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 27, 2006, 10:19:59 PM
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You missed out Sammich. The whole event was hilarious, in a weird way. It was like watching an 8 year old argue with a professor, it was great to watch, always kept me laughing.


No, I've seen him when he comes back. I got my original account back in march of 05.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 28, 2006, 12:57:14 AM
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Originally posted by Glitch
You missed out Sammich. The whole event was hilarious, in a weird way. It was like watching an 8 year old argue with a professor, it was great to watch, always kept me laughing.


No, I've seen him when he comes back. I got my original account back in march of 05.


Yar, he is ZKX after all.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on October 28, 2006, 02:31:45 AM
Jesus Christ, he's STILL trying to bring doom to charas? This guy is pathetic, seriously.
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Post by: Drace on October 28, 2006, 12:22:27 PM
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Originally posted by Archem2
>http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=18445&forumid=44&catid=6< /a>  
Apparently, he lured some peeps in with the promise of Zelda-chat. By the way, LttP all the way!


 'K... that was weird.

 I mean, he acts like as if he was Jesus or something, but less miraculous, and more gay.


You calling Jesus gay? YOU CALLING JESUS GAY? If Jesus read that, I'm sure he'd go to your house and gave you a mad ass-spanking.
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Post by: Bluhman on October 28, 2006, 01:26:02 PM
Ironic thing is; this guy posted his message on the 26th, which was when I had coincidentially gotten disconnected from the internet.

Therefore; I state that some stupid troll will come along whenever any of the following members is offline for 1+ days:

Grandy
Bluhman

... Anybody else I'm forgetting?
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 28, 2006, 03:23:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bluhman
Ironic thing is; this guy posted his message on the 26th, which was when I had coincidentially gotten disconnected from the internet.

Therefore; I state that some stupid troll will come along whenever any of the following members is offline for 1+ days:

Grandy
Bluhman

... Anybody else I'm forgetting?


Me. Over periods when I;m gone a week **** happens.
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Post by: Dragonium on October 28, 2006, 03:53:52 PM
Right. Let me put some stuff straight.

As some of the folks who talk to me on MSN will know, I frequently have problems getting onto the Forums. This problem occurs when I try to get onto any Forum page (The main page or any threads). Sometimes it happens and I can't get onto the Forums, and sometimes it doesn't happen and everything works perfectly fine.

For the purposes of illustrating the point, this is what happens.

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Now, I've been informed (By MrMister in fact, putting his new powers to good use :)) that this happens because I share an IP address with Lord Raffles (And his other accounts).

I also checked my IP Settings, and found that my ISP, in order to protect their customers from hackers, have 2 IP addresses which they alternate between every time somebody connects.

Yes, I have dialup. :D

My ISP is Orange (UK Thing). So basically, I use the same ISP as Raffles. And Raffles has dialup. :D

That's all I wanted to say.

You can get rid of Raffles. All you need to do is ban both of his IP addresses (The two that the ISP alternates between). Of course, that means that me, and every other member who uses that ISP in future, will be banned as well.

Meh, whatever.
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Post by: Drace on October 28, 2006, 05:03:02 PM
Raffles having dial-up sure explains a lot.
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Post by: Glitch on October 28, 2006, 05:07:46 PM
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Raffles having dial-up sure explains a lot.


My god, you're right!

Oh, and IHAS, I know you were around when he came back, I'm saying you missed out on the first time, that was the funniest. His second/third/fourth/ whatever comings haven't been as funny.
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 28, 2006, 07:13:05 PM
Raffles has dial up lol. Lame.
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Post by: Osmose on October 28, 2006, 08:52:58 PM
http://spondoo.com/cgi-bin/nph-proxy.cgi

If you ever have trouble relating to that, use this to read the forums. Proxy for the win.
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Post by: Razor on October 29, 2006, 12:15:54 AM
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You can get rid of Raffles. All you need to do is ban both of his IP addresses (The two that the ISP alternates between). Of course, that means that me, and every other member who uses that ISP in future, will be banned as well.

Meh, whatever.

Nah, not worth it. Besides, he only visits us every 4 months or so.
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Post by: Grandy on October 29, 2006, 01:33:24 AM
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You can get rid of Raffles. All you need to do is ban both of his IP addresses (The two that the ISP alternates between). Of course, that means that me, and every other member who uses that ISP in future, will be banned as well.

Meh, whatever.

Nah, not worth it. Besides, he only visits us every 4 months or so.


 It's like Charas' period.
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Post by: MrMister on October 29, 2006, 01:47:43 AM
Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.
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Post by: Grandy on October 29, 2006, 01:56:57 AM
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Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.


 Charas isn't a woman either. I said it was "like" a period.
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Post by: MrMister on October 29, 2006, 02:09:26 AM
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Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.


 Charas isn't a woman either. I said it was "like" a period.

No you didn't. Liar.

Why do you lie?
Is it because you hate yourself?
It's probably that.
Don't lie anymore.

Anyways, I think Charas has a uteral tumor, because when Raffles comes around, it's usually a pretty heavy flow.
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on October 29, 2006, 02:30:46 AM
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Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.


 Charas isn't a woman either. I said it was "like" a period.

No you didn't. Liar.

Why do you lie?
Is it because you hate yourself?
It's probably that.
Don't lie anymore.

Anyways, I think Charas has a uteral tumor, because when Raffles comes around, it's usually a pretty heavy flow.





HAAAARRRRRRRSSSHHHHHHHH!
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 29, 2006, 02:34:58 AM
Here's a question: Does charas bleed blue? Or is it so emo it bleeds black?
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Post by: Tomi on October 29, 2006, 02:46:00 AM
As long as Meiscool is here, we are at least 1/20,000 emo.  So it'll just be a darkish blue.
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Post by: Grandy on October 29, 2006, 02:46:40 AM
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Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.


 Charas isn't a woman either. I said it was "like" a period.

No you didn't. Liar.

Why do you lie?
Is it because you hate yourself?
It's probably that.
Don't lie anymore.

Anyways, I think Charas has a uteral tumor, because when Raffles comes around, it's usually a pretty heavy flow.


 My initial intention was to make it a comparison, not saying that it's eaxctly like a period. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough for you.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 29, 2006, 02:46:42 AM
Yeah!

20000 emos to me, the one non-emo.
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Post by: MrMister on October 29, 2006, 05:08:05 AM
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Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.


 Charas isn't a woman either. I said it was "like" a period.

No you didn't. Liar.

Why do you lie?
Is it because you hate yourself?
It's probably that.
Don't lie anymore.

Anyways, I think Charas has a uteral tumor, because when Raffles comes around, it's usually a pretty heavy flow.


 My initial intention was to make it a comparison, not saying that it's eaxctly like a period. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough for you.


WHEN WILL THE DECEIT END MAN, WHEN?!

edit: So, what, I suppose Raffles' attempt to rattle us kind of failed, considering we are talking about emos and periods on only the 4th page of his thread.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on October 29, 2006, 05:19:59 AM
Why did you have to include "and" between emos and periods?
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Post by: Drace on October 29, 2006, 07:29:02 AM
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As long as Meiscool is here, we are at least 1/20,000 emo.  So it'll just be a darkish blue.


CRIMSON!!!
It bleeds crimson! Problem solved.
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Post by: Razor on October 29, 2006, 08:20:24 AM
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CRIMSON!!!
It bleeds crimson! Problem solved.

Unless you're colourblind or something...
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Post by: Grandy on October 29, 2006, 11:36:54 AM
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Originally posted by MrMister
Yes. A period happens every 4 months.





Go watch 'The Miracle of Life'.


 Charas isn't a woman either. I said it was "like" a period.

No you didn't. Liar.

Why do you lie?
Is it because you hate yourself?
It's probably that.
Don't lie anymore.

Anyways, I think Charas has a uteral tumor, because when Raffles comes around, it's usually a pretty heavy flow.


 My initial intention was to make it a comparison, not saying that it's eaxctly like a period. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough for you.


WHEN WILL THE DECEIT END MAN, WHEN?!

edit: So, what, I suppose Raffles' attempt to rattle us kind of failed, considering we are talking about emos and periods on only the 4th page of his thread.


 ...
 *checks on dictinary for deceit*
 *nods*
 *shruggs*
 Whatever floats your boat.
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Post by: Archem on October 29, 2006, 02:55:54 PM
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Yeah!

20000 emos to me, the one non-emo.

You know, the first step to recovery Is admitting to yourself that you're an [STRIKE]alcoholic[/STRIKE] emo. And denial is the first sign... And this is some flaming denial. Not flaming like gay, flaming like obvious. Unless you want to admit to that, too...
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Post by: Daetyrnis on October 29, 2006, 07:04:48 PM
I was one of the people here when Raffles first came.  The time when Charas first had to use the ban option. :(  Wait, was Kairou banned first?  Anyways, the whole matter made me laugh.  Raffles is just one of those people with nothing better to do than to be an asshole on the internet to feel big.  They just look ridiculous in my opinion.
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Post by: MrMister on October 29, 2006, 07:06:22 PM
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I was one of the people here when Raffles first came.  The time when Charas first had to use the ban option. :(  Wait, was Kairou banned first?  Anyways, the whole matter made me laugh.  Raffles is just one of those people with nothing better to do than to be an asshole on the internet to feel big.  They just look ridiculous in my opinion.


wait.. how did RRWP end?
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on October 29, 2006, 07:21:59 PM
And pop was banned far before Raffles. As far as I know.
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Post by: Osmose on October 29, 2006, 07:35:14 PM
I, er, wahba was banned before him too. He certainly isn't the first to be banned.
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Post by: Daetyrnis on October 29, 2006, 07:42:01 PM
Okay call me crazy.  I was mixing up pop and raffles there for a second.

I don't remember wahba though, who were they?
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Post by: Razor on October 29, 2006, 07:45:59 PM
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I was one of the people here when Raffles first came.  The time when Charas first had to use the ban option. :(  Wait, was Kairou banned first?  Anyways, the whole matter made me laugh.  Raffles is just one of those people with nothing better to do than to be an asshole on the internet to feel big.  They just look ridiculous in my opinion.


wait.. how did RRWP end?

He left and chose not to come back ever.

He did pop in once, though.


Wahba was a MASS spam attack that resulted in the rule of "one post per minute rule". I think the less said the better.
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Post by: Grandy on October 29, 2006, 08:15:55 PM
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I was one of the people here when Raffles first came.  The time when Charas first had to use the ban option. :(  Wait, was Kairou banned first?  Anyways, the whole matter made me laugh.  Raffles is just one of those people with nothing better to do than to be an asshole on the internet to feel big.  They just look ridiculous in my opinion.


wait.. how did RRWP end?

He left and chose not to come back ever.

He did pop in once, though.


Wahba was a MASS spam attack that resulted in the rule of "one post per minute rule". I think the less said the better.


 "Wahba" is a username?
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Post by: Tomi on October 29, 2006, 09:36:12 PM
Yes.

I remember pretty much all of those..
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Post by: MrMister on October 29, 2006, 09:40:33 PM
Wahba was in.. August 2004.
Lord Raffles was December 2004.
*solve'd*
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Post by: Kinslayer on October 29, 2006, 10:18:29 PM
I hadn't seen this. Another looser trying to be a pain? They all should realize they're worthless, and there is no diference in the world if they live or die. Good thing it's solved fast.
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Post by: Osmose on October 29, 2006, 11:19:24 PM
Wahba wasn't a loser! He was a very intelligent person who found that the only way to get his point across at that time was to work by example.

He left the forums much safer than they were before. Wahba was, quite possibly, one of the most awesome members of all time. :D
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Post by: Emerates on October 29, 2006, 11:41:49 PM
So that was the semi-legendary Raffles....





















Lol.  For shame, man.
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Post by: Razor on October 30, 2006, 05:15:18 AM
In what most would dub an ironic twist, unless someone does something soon, there WILL be no Charas wiki, thanks to the wikifags who suck balls.
YES, I am addressing YOU, Mr Mark our article for deletion.
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Post by: Osmose on October 30, 2006, 09:56:34 AM
Well all anyone needs to do to try and save it is remove the notice and provide a legitimate reason on the talk page. The hard part here is that we don't have any legitimate reason to be on Wikipedia.

There are, at most, two or three notable contributors to the article. At least one of them is a mod here (me). We do not have any references from news or magazine articles. Because of that, we don't pass the notability test.

Wikipedia isn't just a depository of information, it's an encyclopedia. As such, anything that has a page on it must have some proof of being notable enough to deserve one - Wikipedia can't have an article for every website.

You can't prove a website's legitimacy through number of members or google hits - both of these are original research (research that doesn't use verifiable outside sources) and both can be faked quite easily by anyone who cares.

If you find any magazine or newspaper, even a small publication, that has a linkback to us, or find an article in a major website(digg.com doesn't count because anyone can submit stuff there), you're welcome to remove the mark for deletion and show your proof of notability on the talk page. Otherwise, I strongly recommend against removing it just to save the page. It makes our whole site look bad.

This had always been a possible problem - before we just skated by on the fact that no one read the article besides us. Anyone who normally edits Wikipedia would've marked it for deletion a long time ago. (GamingW's article slid by on a no consensus vote, and if it comes to it, I might propose a vote to see what happens.)
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Post by: Razor on October 30, 2006, 11:06:54 AM
Then I probably shouldn't have taken matters into my own hands and removed it myself.


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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 30, 2006, 01:34:40 PM
Well, as I said before, I suppose that we could use Charas.ex as the legitimate reason. It's a program which is widely used across the internet, and I suppose if we bs it enough we can expand that idea to create the purpose. If there is a forum associated with support for it, them I see no reason as to why it can't be up there.
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Post by: SaiKar on October 30, 2006, 01:56:55 PM
I think we have a decent case at legitimacy. Charas isn't just a self-contained forum community - we actually offer the charas generators, which are free, legal, and cool.
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Post by: Apex on October 30, 2006, 01:59:48 PM
Almost perfectly legal...
















Except IHAS uploads child pornography every other day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: MrMister on October 30, 2006, 02:53:54 PM
I think some of you are mistaken.
This is not all Season Three has done.
For some of you nublets, check out the Junk Bin if you want to see what Raffles is somewhat 'about.'
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Post by: Osmose on October 30, 2006, 10:13:16 PM
Yeah, you shouldn't have deleted it. As much as I'd like to keep the page on there, I'm not going to stand by and watch our members break Wikipedia rules to keep it there.

 
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There is no reason for deletion. I have it on good authority that this deletion in itself was proposed by someone with a vendetta against the owner of the board. There is no basis for this.- Jude 22:13, 29 October 2006 (EST)


I'm not sure if that's someone from here - if it is, I'd like to know, considering the account page was made during the last month.

 
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If this board is going to be noted for deletion, it should probably be by someone who hasn't been created within the last week (ie, ZodiaccaidoZ) - Razorthe629th 08:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


Razor:  Lookie here (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:ZodiaccaidoZ&action=history). His user page was created MONTHS ago. This is one of the things I was trying to avoid damnit.

I'm proposing a vote. Razor, please do not vote in it, you've already done enough to hurt our credibility.

It's all well and good that we ourselves know that we have a lot of members and are popular, but we need to prove that. We cannot prove it by all going to Wikipedia and posting - anyone could just as easily use proxies and do that. We can't point to our forum member count - that is original research and could easily be faked.

Wikipedia relies on independant, un-biased sources to verify their articles. This is why every website DOESN'T have a page on Wikipedia. A source from a magazine or a newspaper mentioning the website would be a valid source. Google hit records are not. An article from a prominent website like 1up.com would be a valid source. Alexa rank is not.

Just like it is our right to make our rules for our forums, it is their right to make their rules for their pages, and, quite frankly, they've got the experience to make them. You may think the rules are ridiculous but there have been extensive arguments and discussions on these rules and they are SMARTER than what you have to say.

Now to go see if there's any way to save the page.
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Post by: MrMister on October 30, 2006, 10:19:10 PM
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Now to go see if there's any way to save the page.

They keep the older versions of the pages, so you can just report vandalism and it'll go back to the old version.
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Post by: I Have a Sandwich on October 30, 2006, 10:23:50 PM
Okay guys, we need a picture of Charas on wikipedia that doesn't have a topic titled "NO MORE WIKIPEDIA FOR CHARAS" on the front page.
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Post by: Osmose on October 30, 2006, 10:36:54 PM
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Now to go see if there's any way to save the page.

They keep the older versions of the pages, so you can just report vandalism and it'll go back to the old version.


No, no, what I mean is how to get a fair consensus to keep the page so we don't have someone else nominate the page for deletion - if it passes the nomination I put in for it just now, then there is a much smaller chance it will get proposed in the future.

It's not vandalism I'm worried about, it's legitimate deletion.
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Post by: MrMister on October 30, 2006, 10:43:13 PM
Right, right.
Well, if they have a good reason to, then they should.
We don't need a wiki.
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Post by: Bluhman on October 30, 2006, 11:36:43 PM
You guys are aware that the deletion tag above the article dissapeared, right?
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Post by: Revolution911 on October 30, 2006, 11:46:56 PM
...Pwned. All of you. Every last one of you. PWNED.
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Post by: Osmose on October 31, 2006, 12:10:25 AM
Razor removed it because he mistakenly thought whoever proposed it was only a week old and probably Raffles. Or whoever the other person was. I added in an AfD (Article for Deletion [Debate]) to get a consensus by people inside of Wikipedia as to whether they think it deserves an article or not.

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Post by: Anubis_Soldier on October 31, 2006, 03:44:42 AM
Who is this Raffles guy? is he like stupid or something? Does he hate charas? Is he an emo?

(From what i have read, he is a complete ***)
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Post by: Razor on October 31, 2006, 03:51:45 AM
Because I can't read when pages are created. :p
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Post by: Drace on October 31, 2006, 05:23:18 AM
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Who is this Raffles guy? is he like stupid or something? Does he hate charas? Is he an emo?

(From what i have read, he is a complete ***)


He's a lifeless, selfcentered, idiotic nerd with Dial-Up who has sand in his vagina and a grudge against Charas for some reason. I'll even bet he's emo.
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Post by: Glitch on October 31, 2006, 05:26:50 AM
Speaking of which, he happens to be on right now.

At least he's persistent, it's kind of like a testament to human spirit...

wait... no, it's just sad...
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Post by: elementalhero76 on October 31, 2006, 05:17:37 PM
You guys aren't as bad as he (raffles) says you guys are. I for one hate people that pick on others! Death to them!
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Post by: Razor on October 31, 2006, 07:35:04 PM
Dude, relax, Christ. You seem to really care, and Raffles thrives on that.
Chill out.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on October 31, 2006, 08:36:37 PM
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You guys aren't as bad as he (raffles) says you guys are. I for one hate people that pick on others! Death to them!


Yeah... uh... don't take it so personal dude.