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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2006, 10:31:28 AM

Title: Gay KH...
Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2006, 10:31:28 AM
No, I`m not starting another Kindom Hearts bashing thread...I wanna ask something that has been bugging me for a while. And I ask this mostly for people that actually played the game.

See, many of us visit deviant art every day and have accounts there...Have anyone noticed the huge amount of gay KH pictures there? NO, I`m not saying KH is gay, I mean really gay! Like Sora kissing and hugging the guy with white hair and Roxas and a guy with red hair rubbbing and doing gross gay stuff?

I just can`t stand browsing around and having to see that stupid ****! I don`t post at those people`s pages to be polite, but I`d love to!

Anyway, the question is...Were they gay or indicate any kinda love for each other in the game?

EDIT: Yeah, Deviant art shows us how bizarre people can be...Like, ossession for morbit fat girls, super strong women, pregnant women (ossesion with them is somewhat weird aint it?)...
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Post by: Rowan on November 13, 2006, 11:06:37 AM
No its fans doing... I could care less of what other people put up on Deviant Art, as long as it satisfy's the uploader. Just continue to ignore those kinds of art if it bothers you somehow.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 13, 2006, 11:58:08 AM
It's all the fans. They do it based on their favorite two people they think should be couples. Like Sora/Riku, Cloud/Zack/Seph/Vincent (they usually mix these guys up), Squall/Seifer, Zell/Irvine, Ed/Roy, Batman/Robin. They do it with girls too. Why does it bother you? Too much sora? :P
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Post by: Ryan914 on November 13, 2006, 02:13:22 PM
Yeah, some fanart can be good while others.... not so much... The same goes for Fanfics, I did read an Skies of Arcadia Fanfic a while back which was kind of good; Sort of like a side story for Piastol, where she is in a war. Nothing too iffy about that.
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Post by: Glitch on November 13, 2006, 02:36:22 PM
Yeah, those fan arts are gross, but if you've seen the ending of KHII, there is a definately creepy scene between Sora and Riku, it's a bit... gay.  Not quite what the fan arts do, but still creepy.  There is also a whole freaking lot of KH fan fictions involving crap like that too, it's all rather disgusting.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 13, 2006, 02:41:57 PM
Oh... I assume you all know by now, I do post rather... Impolite posts on these pieces. I also tend to comment on that weird *** fat chick stuff, as well as stupid photos.

Alot of people don't like me on that site.
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Post by: Grandy on November 13, 2006, 02:57:44 PM
 Let me put it like this:

 KH is a game that wasn't well accepted in the beggining, most people said it was 'gay' because it involved disney, and people who couldn't satnd disney claimed that.

 Later on, the gay image of it already caugh, though now it's a well-accepted game.

 The lack of interest from Sora to girls other than Kairi, while in the middle of Tifa and other FF chicks.

 The obviously lack of comments about sex (as opposite to FF, witch has a lot of references to it, it seems Disney, which has more children-ish audience, wouldn't like that) made everyone think he was gay.

 Riku is the best friend of Sora, both of them are aways walking togheter and doing things togheter.

 In short, it's just like Frodo/Sam gay jokes from LotR.
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Post by: Glitch on November 13, 2006, 03:03:11 PM
Them being best friends will never forgive that really creepy scene at the end of 2.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 13, 2006, 03:19:38 PM
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Post by: SonicChaos7 on November 13, 2006, 03:27:33 PM
Dude, just because you and your best friends aren't the same way doesn't mean there aren't friends who really care about each other like Sora and Riku. Stop being so immature about things you find awkward. If you're not comfortable with you sexuality, go back to playing your other games.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 13, 2006, 03:31:15 PM
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Originally posted by SonicChaos7
Dude, just because you and your best friends aren't the same way doesn't mean there aren't friends who really care about each other like Sora and Riku. Stop being so immature about things you find awkward. If you're not comfortable with you sexuality, go back to playing your other games.


That there is some fighting words. <.<
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Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
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ROFLMAO!!!

Man, I donīt like those pics cause they distort our heroes (not that Sora is anyy kind of hero, donīt misunderstand me...)! They gotta be cool and have attitude, not a flexible wrist and squeaky voice! People are lucky Iīve never seen this stuff with Squall! That'd be sacrilege!

Not to mention itīs just oh so gross!

Frodo and Sam are gay! A lot. I just detest Frodo, heīs the worse hero ever, just some stupid useless little thing.

I'd like to mention that I do not belive in men artistic nude. The men's body has nothing beautiful in it, it's forms are agressive. Plus, it's hard to browse through DA at work, cause a big cock may show up in the screen any time -.-;

Women artistic nude is different, cause itīs really artistic (with some exceptions...)
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Post by: Grandy on November 13, 2006, 03:38:45 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
I'd like to mention that I do not belive in men artistic nude. The men's body has nothing beautiful in it, it's forms are agressive. Plus, it's hard to browse through DA at work, cause a big cock may show up in the screen any time -.-;

Women artistic nude is different, cause itīs really artistic (with some exceptions...)



 I bet women would discord you and say exact the opposite.

Edit: You quoted me too by accident. Fix'd.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 13, 2006, 03:38:54 PM
DUDE, hail no.. Men have beautiful bods. You think that because your a guy, and that's how guys think. All guys (Well not all, but most) are scared of homos, and admitting a guy might have a nice bod in the event that they might look gay for saying so. Women have fine bods too, but guys? Love the abs :D!!
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Post by: Glitch on November 13, 2006, 03:49:44 PM
Please don't watch this if you don't want it ruined for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXbvn5aJKZQ

how they act throughout the game is no big deal, friends, whatever. But you can not deny the scene at the beach has some interesting dialouge in it, and some some interesting undertones....

"I'm so lucky, to have you" "I'm the lucky one, I have you"  :badboy:

And do not make me mention Sora "Helping Riku" his hand is placed incredibly incorrectly... ;)   Then Riku subsequently asking Sora to "help" him down to the water, the next scene is a close up of Sora's hand on Riku's butt...

I'm not saying they're gay, I'm saying the scene makes them look gay.





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Post by: Blue_Strife on November 13, 2006, 04:07:45 PM
Some people take it as yaoi, some USE those little things to bash the game completely.

It doesn't help when SquareEnix likes to make their guys look like chicks. :P
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Post by: Drace on November 13, 2006, 04:08:03 PM
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DUDE, hail no.. Men have beautiful bods. You think that because your a guy, and that's how guys think. All guys (Well not all, but most) are scared of homos, and admitting a guy might have a nice bod in the event that they might look gay for saying so. Women have fine bods too, but guys? Love the abs :D!!


Oh I admit a guy has a nice body, like mine. It's so damn hot and I have a great ***.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 13, 2006, 04:10:07 PM
I have to admit.. even tho Drace is a conceited bastard... he is cute. *From a distance, HAHAHAHA.... jk :P*

Yaoi is for girls anyways, no issue with it. Guys like Yuri, girls likes like Yaoi. Deal with it. Zoooooooooom.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on November 13, 2006, 04:27:24 PM
To settle the record, a guys body can be, I guess, sexy, it just goes downhill below the waist. If I was a chick, I wouldn't be too excited about that bit. lol
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Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2006, 05:27:57 PM
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Originally posted by Midnight
DUDE, hail no.. Men have beautiful bods. You think that because your a guy, and that's how guys think. All guys (Well not all, but most) are scared of homos, and admitting a guy might have a nice bod in the event that they might look gay for saying so. Women have fine bods too, but guys? Love the abs :D!!


No no, I can admit a guy looks good, but from the head up. As I said, the forms are agressive. Women's body, because they have smooth curves, transmit a sensation of peace, confort, embracing.

Men have broken lines, it transmits a idea of disorder. Plus, the well built men body (like mine XD) is made for things that use strenght, like fighting and hunting, which are not conforting things. So there you go!

EDIT: SICK! Fucking sick people at DA! I discovered there's worse! People obsessed with siamese twins, armeless, headless and fused up people! I mean, letīs have some regular taste for a change people! Whatīs next? pedophilia?
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Post by: Cosmos on November 13, 2006, 05:53:39 PM
I'm a girl whose in love with sexy abs, so excuse me for thinking men sexy as art.  :p
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Post by: MrMister on November 13, 2006, 06:18:51 PM
My God, the one woman in the world that isn't secretly a lesbian is on Charas.

Almeidaboo, the best thing for you is to stop going to DA. It's a gaytarded site.

And I've seen this over abundance of gay Kingdom Hearts art. It was like a couple years ago and I GIS'd for Kingdom Hearts 2 screenshots, and I get like 10 pictures of Sora and Riku mackin out naked. Next page, I get one screenshot, and 4 pictures of Riku and Ansem going at it. This isn't art, this is a distortion of innocent characters in a Disney game. This is like making Donald Duck hentai. Whoever is drawing these is going to hell, and there's a good chance I'm sending them there. Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. This is a perverted thing that's going on.
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Post by: Grandy on November 13, 2006, 06:24:56 PM
 I've saw Donald Duck and Goofy yaoi once. >.> Couldn't sleep for a week or so.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on November 13, 2006, 06:34:16 PM
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Originally posted by MrMister
My God, the one woman in the world that isn't secretly a lesbian is on Charas.

Almeidaboo, the best thing for you is to stop going to DA. It's a gaytarded site.

And I've seen this over abundance of gay Kingdom Hearts art. It was like a couple years ago and I GIS'd for Kingdom Hearts 2 screenshots, and I get like 10 pictures of Sora and Riku mackin out naked. Next page, I get one screenshot, and 4 pictures of Riku and Ansem going at it. This isn't art, this is a distortion of innocent characters in a Disney game. This is like making Donald Duck hentai. Whoever is drawing these is going to hell, and there's a good chance I'm sending them there. Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. This is a perverted thing that's going on.


Aye aye! Agree'd to that!

And Grandy...I laughed so hard that the guy next to me exploded...
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Post by: X_marks_the_ed on November 13, 2006, 09:16:05 PM
I'm just suprised that such a thing could be taken so seriously. They exist, we get it. No need to consider certain "facts" as pointing towards that type of lifestyle. Chances are that the people who upload such images get a kick out of the images, catch my drift?

Besides, Deviant Art is where people can paste anything they draw, write, or create. So expect such things to be shown.
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Post by: Black Massacre on November 13, 2006, 09:16:25 PM
I can still see her boobs. Even though they are censored.
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 13, 2006, 09:29:21 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo

EDIT: SICK! Fucking sick people at DA! I discovered there's worse! People obsessed with siamese twins, armeless, headless and fused up people! I mean, letīs have some regular taste for a change people! Whatīs next? pedophilia?


Sounds pretty hot.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 14, 2006, 12:16:39 AM
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I can still see her boobs. Even though they are censored.


XD!! Censoring is stupid, because it's easy to make out details.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 14, 2006, 12:18:27 AM
I'd f*** Sean Connery. He's a hot-*** old Scot.

There, topic solv'd.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 14, 2006, 12:19:23 AM
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I'd f*** Sean Connery. He's a hot-*** old Scot.

There, topic solv'd.


Can I like put that in my sig? :D
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Post by: Archem on November 14, 2006, 12:24:21 AM
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I can still see her boobs. Even though they are censored.

Having fun there? Eh? Eh? Petting the ol' weasel? Eh? Stroking the wee trouser snake? Catch my drift?
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 14, 2006, 12:33:59 AM
Kingdom hearts was an OK game.

Why do people like it so damn much? Even the hard mode was easy. IT WAS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS.
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Post by: SaiKar on November 14, 2006, 12:42:17 AM
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No, I`m not starting another Kindom Hearts bashing thread...


And then I stopped reading.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 14, 2006, 12:49:41 AM
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I'd f*** Sean Connery. He's a hot-*** old Scot.

There, topic solv'd.


Can I like put that in my sig? :D[/B]


Knock yourself out XD
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Post by: Cosmos on November 14, 2006, 01:12:04 AM
Thanks. ^^
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Post by: MrMister on November 14, 2006, 01:16:06 AM
Sean Connery related confusion about ZKX's sexuality > wigger chicken.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on November 14, 2006, 02:29:03 AM
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Kingdom hearts was an OK game.

Why do people like it so damn much? Even the hard mode was easy. IT WAS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS.


I think it's cuz Disney hasn't made a good animated movie in a while. This was the next best thing.

It was actually gonna be kiddier. Sqare had to put in the Ansem storyline and the extra difficulty. Whether you like the story or not, it had some pretty deep themes in it.

As for the gay stuff, they say the artist puts 50% of their idea into it and leaves the rest to the one appreciating it. They see characters who should be messed with to please their fantasies, I see an artist who should be shot. I've got nothing against homosexuality, but this kind of stuff is wrong to me.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 14, 2006, 02:32:47 AM
That last line made no sense..
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on November 14, 2006, 02:38:08 AM
I meant to say I have nothing against homosexuality in general, but drawing sex and calling it art isn't right to me...
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Post by: Cosmos on November 14, 2006, 02:39:55 AM
OH, ok that explains it. I thought you said you haven't a problem with  homosexuality but do have with drawing couples. My bads. <.<
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Post by: MrMister on November 14, 2006, 02:44:55 AM
KH's fighting is like.. just press X for a while, and you'll win.

KH2 was retarded in that if you pressed triangle early or late, it didn't ruin your reaction, meaning you could put triangle on autofire and get every reaction command.
The first KH actually had fights that involved challenge, like fighting Riku you had to jump all over the place. They got rid of those in KH2.
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Post by: Drace on November 14, 2006, 06:47:25 AM
We all know who Rev wants to bang.

Aye Rev, aye?

 
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Post by: MrMister on November 14, 2006, 07:23:46 AM
Whatever. Johnny Depp is bangable because he kinda looks like a chick.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on November 14, 2006, 11:53:13 AM
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Whatever. Johnny Depp is bangable because he kinda looks like a chick.


Uhh...Dude, I think youīve been banging the wrong stuff, cause JD could never be mistaken with a girl...
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Post by: Cosmos on November 14, 2006, 12:03:21 PM
Yeah he does. You just don't see it. :P
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Post by: Drace on November 14, 2006, 03:51:55 PM
A girl with facial hair? Shouldn't there be another problem already then?
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on November 14, 2006, 03:58:42 PM
Drawing sex and calling it art is not art?

No, Drawing PORN and calling it art is not art.

Fine artists have been depicting Sexuality for millenia.
Alot of it had homosexual undertones too. See, throughout history, Homesexuality has been frowned upon, as a result, a homoerotic undertone to a piece of art immediatly strikes a nerve with the audience.

Drawing Sexually themed pieces of Art, and projecting it toward an audience of children is wrong. Regardless of wether its "ghey" or straight.
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Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 14, 2006, 04:57:18 PM
Well mostly, manga comics and animee games are the ones getting into these siruations, Kingdom Hearts, Star Ocean, Tales of -...- .
The fangirls/boys just love the characters I guess, and in some cases Iīve heard about, it is more concidered art if the person...um together with the character is not the person who drawed the picture/drawing but instead another character, and because the fangirls does not want any other girl to have their, um- favorite, they just put another guy together with it... Kinda like... Nah actually I just canīt think of any more logical explanation...

Kh was great, So was great and the To"-" games Iīve played was great as well, sure some girls might be hawt but I just donīt see any reason to draw them... Donīt want to appear as some kind of pervo drawing female animee-like characters from a game... Could give a wrong first inpression to people...
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Post by: Grandy on November 14, 2006, 07:02:10 PM
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Even the hard mode was easy. IT WAS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS.


 Disgaea.

 It was a great game, but way too easy. I don't see no one complaining about that.
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Post by: Osmose on November 14, 2006, 08:09:42 PM
Sheena. Tifa. Lulu.

Yum.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 14, 2006, 08:19:12 PM
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Whatever. Johnny Depp is bangable because he kinda looks like a chick.


Uhh...Dude, I think youīve been banging the wrong stuff, cause JD could never be mistaken with a girl...[/B]


He was mistaken for Drace. Anit that the same thing? :p
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 14, 2006, 11:52:20 PM
Johnny Depps ****ing hot. The only difference between me and Drace is that I admit I'd do Johnny Depp.
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Post by: MrMister on November 14, 2006, 11:59:24 PM

Kill yourself for being wrong.
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Post by: Revolution911 on November 15, 2006, 12:12:05 AM
I'm never wrong. Even in that movie, he's Johnny fuc*ing Depp.
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Post by: MrMister on November 15, 2006, 12:16:47 AM
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I'm never wrong. Even in that movie, he's Johnny fuc*ing Depp.

Yes. You realize the only movie he's been badass in is Secret Window? He wore eye-make up in Pirates. Like, KYS.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 15, 2006, 03:53:49 AM
Why is sexual situations not considered a form of art?
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Post by: MrMister on November 15, 2006, 04:23:34 AM
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Why is sexual situations not considered a form of art?

It's drawn to get people off. This is perversion, not art, because it's a distortion of children's characters. Fap material created for the purpose of fap is not art. At all. Because fap material wasn't created to be art. Therefore, it doesn't deserve to be called such a thing.
God, Mid. Just admit you only like it for fap, don't pretend to think of it as art.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 15, 2006, 05:12:58 AM
Well Mid, here's a question: Is tentacle hentai really art?
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Post by: Drace on November 15, 2006, 07:55:30 AM
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Well Mid, here's a question: Is tentacle hentai really art?


 :x
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Post by: Osmose on November 15, 2006, 11:10:19 AM
It all depends on whether you think the word art should be understood as implying quality or not. Personally, if it's drawn, I call it art. Certainly a lot of people will say that it's horrible and bad and all that, but I don't see the big deal in freaking out and mincing words.

Plus, every argument against calling hentai and such art just sounds way too elitist.
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Post by: Cosmos on November 15, 2006, 03:41:42 PM
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Well Mid, here's a question: Is tentacle hentai really art?


I wasn't talking about that kind've art  _sweat_ Why must it all go down towards hentai!? I was talking about art that leads towards sex but isn't exactly sex. Is that understandable, or do I have to find a picture?
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on November 15, 2006, 04:06:35 PM
Allright then...

If a guy took porno pictures, and grafted other images into it, not meant as satire...
Stricly for the sake of provoking a subconcious response from the audience, it would then be considered art.
The photographer defiantly takes his job as a muff-clicker seriously. Hes setting up lights, and all that...The scene.....
So on one end of the porn, it is art, in a sense.
But the subject matter renders it UN-arted.

Its wierd. Theres so much grayscale to this.

Its easy for somebody to say "No thats not art, its meant to get people off.." but to somebody out there, it IS art. And sickly enough, Dahlmer thought what he was doing was art too. And the guy who designed the nike Logo, was an artist.

So basically, what Im getting at, is as such:

Art is what you percieve it as.

If you, the conneseur, sees it as Garbage...Its garbage, right?
If you see it as art, its art.

Right?



Now think about this...
This scenario im about to mention has happened a few times.

A woman gets her four year old to scribble on a piece of paper.
The woman signs her name to it, and displays it, calling it her own, abstract art...she made all kinds of money.

People ranted on about "its so raw! what beautifull art"
And in one of the scenarios, I remember the woman had legal ramifications to deal with....

And then it was no longer art. It was fraud.


So what the hell gives, right? What makes art art?
I dont think its possible to answer that there question.
You know what I think?
Art is dead. Hes in my basement.
no.no.no...I jest...

I think its all up to you what you see as art.


Satirical pornography is a form of art, so whos to say, to some, a black and white photo of a 40 year old obese woman getting fisted is not art. SOmebody out there will say its not. And somebody will say it is.
You cant win. but then again, you cant lose either. Art is what you make of it.