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Game Creation => Requests => RPG Maker Programming => Topic started by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 06:47:57 PM

Title: Sugestion for new generator
Post by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 06:47:57 PM: I think that there should be a generator for vehicles to help with the RPG's that will have different vehicles than the default ones.

Edit: I forgot to put in a in depth explaniation of my idea. so here it is(numbers represent options and explaination of each.):
1.Base
The base would be the basic shape of the vehicle(Ex. Airship Base, Boat Base, Land Base(Land vehicles.), ect.).
2.Movement(3 layers)
What moves the vehicle i.e. a Sail on top(Layer 1), a propeller on bottom(Layer 2), and a small booster on the back(Layer 3).
3.Special Effects(2 Layers)
The additional effects for the terrain that the vehicle uses i.e. Water splashes(Layer 1), and small sea spray(Layer 2).
4.Items(6 Layers(For added items))
The weaponry or decoration i.e. (Ark from FF9 as example) a Blade on the front(Layer 1), Right Cresent Blade(Layer 2), Left Cresent Blade(Layer 3), Left Fin/Wing(Layer 4), Right Fin/Wing(Layer 5), and Dragon Head Decoration(Layer 6).
5.Wheels
For land vehicles i.e. Tank Treds, Single Wheel, or Tri Wheel.(Three types of wheels.)
Title: The poll
Post by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 06:53:36 PM: here's a link to the poll for this topic Vehicle Generator Poll (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=18713&forumid=22&catid=8)
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 19, 2006, 07:05:14 PM: That's a great idea! You make it.
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Post by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 07:21:42 PM: I don't know how to make a generator.
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Post by: Osmose on November 19, 2006, 07:34:45 PM: I don't see why not. First, make some resources for this section, enough so that a person can make a few different vehicles. Then, use the Charaset generator to test them out a tweak them, since vehicles are just charasets. If you can get them to decently work in the charaset generator, and you have enough resources to be useful, I'll make a section for it.
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Post by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 08:28:07 PM: The chara set generator only has space for 1 layer of each option excpt items whitch has 3 layers.
The description of my idea shows that there would be 6 layers for the items.
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Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 19, 2006, 08:28:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Osmose
I don't see why not. First, make some resources for this section, enough so that a person can make a few different vehicles. Then, use the Charaset generator to test them out a tweak them, since vehicles are just charasets. If you can get them to decently work in the charaset generator, and you have enough resources to be useful, I'll make a section for it.

Agreed, you can´t just create a generator without the things needed.

And if things are to look good, the size of the main part must be the same on each recourse so the cocpip,wings/wheels/legs and everything else match.

But if you gather enough recourses then just perhaps, people will concider making one.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 19, 2006, 08:47:22 PM: I dont think it will work. Every ship would have to have the same shape pretty much, and not all ships look the same.
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Post by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 08:55:35 PM: Like with the charaset generator it would have different catagories for defferent vehicles. i.e. Airship-boat, Airship-ark, Boat-small, Boat-big, Land-Tank, Land-horse, ect.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 19, 2006, 09:17:06 PM: It's a retarded idea that very few people would use.

And quit explaining: 'Boats could be big or small or pink or red.' We have brains, we get the ****ing point.
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Post by: Osmose on November 19, 2006, 09:17:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Sales
The chara set generator only has space for 1 layer of each option excpt items whitch has 3 layers.
The description of my idea shows that there would be 6 layers for the items.

I can create new generators with as many sections as needed, and each section can have a max of 5 layers.

I suggested using the Charaset Generator as a testing ground so you could see how well your parts would go together. If I'm going to go to the trouble of creating an entirely new generator for vehicles, I'm going to need proof and resources to put in their and make sure that they look good and are worth their own section. It's all on you, rather than me, to provide for this.

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Originally posted by Sales
Like with the charaset generator it would have different catagories for defferent vehicles. i.e. Airship-boat, Airship-ark, Boat-small, Boat-big, Land-Tank, Land-horse, ect.

That's quite excessive. I'd recommend working on getting something visible that we can see and look at before making all these plans for different sections.
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Post by: Shadowless1 on November 19, 2006, 09:58:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Meiscool
It's a retarded idea that very few people would use.

ive read a few of your recent posts, i think there quite harsh, i think this idea would be ok, Think of the NEWBS
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 19, 2006, 09:58:43 PM: If I were you I wouldn't include animals at all. Start with a section for boats (Adding the right parts can make airships) and a section for land vehicles. The key is always keeping it simple. If people want complex vehicles they can edit the generated ones; a fairly basic generator is better than none at all.
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Post by: Osmose on November 19, 2006, 10:48:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Shadowless1
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Originally posted by Meiscool
It's a retarded idea that very few people would use.

ive read a few of your recent posts, i think there quite harsh, i think this idea would be ok, Think of the NEWBS[/B]

Can you have my babies?
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Post by: Sales on November 19, 2006, 11:14:51 PM: I'm not very good with paint yet.(Or other picture programs.)
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Post by: Shadowless1 on November 20, 2006, 12:03:25 AM: Quote
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Originally posted by Shadowless1
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Originally posted by Meiscool
It's a retarded idea that very few people would use.

ive read a few of your recent posts, i think there quite harsh, i think this idea would be ok, Think of the NEWBS[/B]

Can you have my babies?[/B]

of course......not, im a guy and i dont think it would work...its against the law
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 20, 2006, 12:07:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Sales
I'm not very good with paint yet.(Or other picture programs.)

So, you want someone to do all the work for you so that you don't have to? Its your idea.
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Post by: Sales on November 20, 2006, 12:11:11 AM: I just want a picture to help me get started like a good picture of Ark from FF9.
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Post by: Sales on November 20, 2006, 12:49:34 AM: Here is an attempt at making Ark if you want to try to make a better one then please do so:
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Post by: Osmose on November 20, 2006, 03:42:15 AM: If you really want a shot at this, try doing more generic things, like taking the normal RPG Maker vehicles and splitting them up into parts for the generator.
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Post by: Sales on November 20, 2006, 03:47:08 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Osmose
If you really want a shot at this, try doing more generic things, like taking the normal RPG Maker vehicles and splitting them up into parts for the generator.

That's what the propelers are. I took them from the RTP Airship.
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Post by: Darkfox on November 20, 2006, 04:22:38 AM: Please DO NOT use JPGs. They suck. Look at it, JPGs have NO transparency and without proper conversion screw up image quality.
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Post by: Prpl_Mage on November 20, 2006, 06:06:58 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Darkfox
Please DO NOT use JPGs. They suck. Look at it, JPGs have NO transparency and without proper conversion screw up image quality.

What he said. As a spriter, JPEG is your worst enemy.

And what Moose ment is that if you want a vehicle generator you need to post loads of recourses, like at least I donno 5 types of bodies, some cocpits, alot of propelers/wings/engines ect.
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Post by: Grunge0Puppy on November 20, 2006, 07:03:04 AM: I think its a really good idea, and if you can get 2 other people into it, ill help you out. Ive often wondered what some more generators would be like.
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Post by: Sales on November 20, 2006, 11:10:04 PM: There are at least 4 other people who like the idea.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 20, 2006, 11:43:02 PM: He just wants someone to make the Ark for him. He doesn't give a damn about the generator.
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Post by: Sales on November 20, 2006, 11:57:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Meiscool
He just wants someone to make the Ark for him. He doesn't give a damn about the generator.

I do want Ark but I also DO care about the generator otherwise I woulden't have sugested it in the first place.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 21, 2006, 12:33:52 AM: Ah, but who do you want to benifit the most from this?
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Post by: Sales on November 21, 2006, 09:29:32 PM: People that want a vehicle made for thier game.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 21, 2006, 09:42:17 PM: And who on this website apparently wants a vehicle made the most?
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Post by: Sales on November 21, 2006, 10:02:03 PM: Your starting to get annoying.
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Post by: Black Massacre on November 21, 2006, 10:58:35 PM: Meiscool, stop being a dick. Your attitude problems are getting annoying and it's pissing me the **** off.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 22, 2006, 12:18:53 AM: Heaven forbid I piss you off and make you leave Black Massacre.
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Post by: Osmose on November 22, 2006, 12:21:16 AM: Heaven forbid that a promising thread about a new generator section turn into a fight. Enough.
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Post by: Black Massacre on November 22, 2006, 04:55:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Meiscool
Heaven forbid I piss you off and make you leave Black Massacre.

Who ever said i'd leave? Not me.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 22, 2006, 04:58:56 AM: Hush. Pay attention to the mod that posted before you... dumbass.
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Post by: Black Massacre on November 22, 2006, 05:05:49 AM: Quote
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Hush. Pay attention to the mod that posted before you... dumbass.

I saw that smartass. I also made the point of saying i never said i was leaving if you pissed me off. Now you broke what the mod had said by calling it back on with your 'dumbass' comment.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 22, 2006, 05:15:07 AM: Sense you are begging for a reply, I said Heaven forbid I would make you leave because, dur, you should leave here. All you do is post non-funny things, continue arguements that have already ended, and nothing to contribute to the website. People could say the same for me, but I do requests for people and several times get a post of mine quote'd and a "LOL" or "XD" underneather it, and lastly, I don't continue arguements that have ended, I just start them. Hence, Heaven forbid you would leave, because nothing would change and we would be one n00b down. Now STFU and quite continuing this. Normally, when asked to stop by a mod other then Midnight, I like to try and actually stop.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 22, 2006, 05:27:02 AM: Massacre, the only person pwerful enough to pwn MIC is me. That means MIC will pwn you, just some forwarning.
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Post by: plightofthepureblood on November 22, 2006, 05:32:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Massacre, the only person pwerful enough to pwn MIC is me. That means MIC will pwn you, just some forwarning.

Its true. That doesnt make it right....but its true.

I think a vehicle generator would be well and fine, but if the kid has not graphic skills, hes pooched.

Personally, I have no problems making vehicles. Theyre easier than people. But Im not gonna lie. Im not gonna be able to help here. The intent is well and fine... but without a group of gung ho spriters, this is going nowhere.

And kid, ya gotta start simple.

Make like, a chassis....

And then make add on features, like propellors, in a seperate charset.

Worrying about six horses, a zepplin, an 86 volvo hatchback, and apache in 3 colours is not going to get you anywhere. Start small. Make some basic chassis...And then post them, and see if anyone can think of add-ons.

If I saw solid growth, id be more inclined to sprite stuff...
Ill be leaving on the firsts ish....but if there was growth, id likely post some help, via public computer acess.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on November 22, 2006, 04:47:40 PM: It's impossible to pwn ZKX. He has no feelings.
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Post by: Sales on November 22, 2006, 05:01:10 PM: I'm not any good at sprites that go up and down only left and right.
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Post by: Sales on November 23, 2006, 02:14:54 AM: I submitted the airship from my game. I did my best on the ship scince I made it from scratch.
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Post by: MrMister on November 23, 2006, 03:50:21 AM: You guys usually listen to Osmose.. interesting..
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Post by: Osmose on November 23, 2006, 04:47:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Sales
I submitted the airship from my game. I did my best on the ship scince I made it from scratch.

If you submit it to complete resources that was the wrong place if you're still on about the generators, because I don't see it as being submit to any of the generators.

Besides, it'd probably be best to post it here and try and get some help removing the sails on a normal RTP ship or something.

In fact, I was looking at this earlier - if you want help you need to produce results first. I suggest you take the raft from the RTP set and try to remove the tent and flag and make them separate items for the generators.
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Post by: FHZebedee on November 30, 2006, 06:58:08 PM: I'm a fairly good spriter who generally tweaks/customizes chara sets for my games. I've customed up my own biplane for one game, and a pick-up truck vehicle for another. I'll see what resources I could create from the stuff on my comp when I get home tonight. (Between 9 and 11, East Coast US time.) I think we need vehicle generators, especially for the modern era games. Nowhere near enough cars/airplanes.
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Post by: Fisherson on May 11, 2008, 01:43:28 AM: I think its awesome! if you're good at Game Maker you could pull this of.
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Post by: Grandy on May 11, 2008, 02:45:06 AM: Holy mother of topic kicking.
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Post by: Osmose on May 11, 2008, 06:28:16 AM: Brings back the memories though.

I still hate Meiscool though.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 11, 2008, 06:30:11 AM: Wow, I was a queer.

I miss Meiscool :(
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Post by: Prpl_Mage on May 11, 2008, 07:30:59 AM: I could baraly spell correctly... But crap. 2 years? Remember it like yesterday.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on May 12, 2008, 03:36:45 AM: Ok lol, old topics shouldn't be kicked.

meiscool = @sshole

Locked :)