Post by: Linkforce on November 24, 2006, 09:00:12 AM
Story-Part 1: In the Beggining
200 years in the past, there was a prosperous world that flourished in it's technology. This world relied on its recources to fuel it's machines. This world had only one continent on it. It was named Kelevor. All were welcome around the world, and the people lived in peace. But there were a few that hated their world with bitter rage. So, they formed a pact known as the Arakian Seven. They rose up to the top of the worlds economy and soon gained control of the world itself. As their power increased, they needed to appoint a leader. So, a man named Kedrak broke away from the Arakian Seven and became the new leader of Kelevor, leaving the Arakian Seven and changing them to the Arakian Six.
Story-Part 2:Evil Within Itself
As Kedrak and his Arakian Six gained more power, they were soon feared around the world. Nobody would have thought that someone would have hated the world to such a great extent, that they would actually try to rule it and change it for themselves.
As time went by, Kedrak grew tired of his control and set out to seek more power. He wanted more power, even more than his body could contain. He was truly set on doing anything to overwhelm his body with power. He searched through Ancient texts, and came across a discovery. He discovered the "Seven Soul Flames". Ancient relics that have been here since the beginning of time. He gathered information on their locations, and went with the Arakian Six to find them all.
Once he had obtained all the Soul Flames, the world began to change. The machines would break down, and buildings would crumble. Civilization was beginning to be destroyed by the imbalance that Kedrak had created by bringing all the Soul Flames together.
Story-Part 3:From Death Comes Birth
As the years past, and the world continued to crumble, Kedrak soon realized that his power would soon destroy the world he was trying to recreate. So, using his power, along with the Soul Flames power, he extracted the essence of the Soul Flames, and created a special relic called the Star Stone. This Stone had the purified power of each Soul Flame. But, upon creating this Stone, Kedrak had unleashed the fury of the Soul Flames, and acidentally opened Pandoras Box.
The skies turned black, as the world began to change once more. Kelevor began to have massive Earthquakes. Earthquakes so fierce, that it ripped the continent apart, and seperated it into four seperate continents. Also, the Soul Flames were flung back to the far corners of the world on their own. Voids in the sky began to appear everywhere. Beings came from these viods. Monsters and un-explainable creatures appeared and multiplied throught the world. This continued for months, until, in an instant, everything had froze. The skies were black as death, and there was not a trace of breath anywhwere.
At this time, all the voids that had appeared, had combined together to create one massive void. As Kedrak gazed at the void, he saw black life forms pouring out of it. They rapidly erupted from the void, and soon, engulfed Kedrak in a massive dark aura. As this happened, the Star Stone began to glow, and it shined a magnificent light across the world. Within a matter of seconds following the light, the skies began to clear, the void had dissapeared, and the chaos that had been awakened began to settle.
Kedrak had unleashed unto the world, beings called Zylacs. Created from the Star Stone, they began to roam the world, and destroyed all technology as they saw fit. Kedrak was never to be seen again, and the Star Stone as well. Now the Soul Flames lay hidden. They were never bothered with again, for fear of what might happen again.
Story-Part 4: A New Age of Man
Now, 212 years later, in times of war, a familiar threat to the world is beggining to once again unfold. Although it hasn't surfaced yet, underground conspiracies are conducting secret activities. Also, the technology that used to exist in the past, has just began to rebuild. Although Zylacs still roam the world, over the years, people have gotten a little more defense against them. Little is still known about them, as they are very hard to track. Their attacks seem random, but are always well thought out, and tactical.
The story begins with the Hero Skylar. A young man who lives deep underneath the water, in an underground world. The water gets sucked out of the underground world through a series of canals, and air comes through in the same sense. People that live their are composed of poor people, and manufacturing companies. Legend has it that within the center of the underground world, lies the descructive and Legendary Star Stone. This is just a theory, so many people don't pay attention to it. Permission to leave the underground world is strictly forbidden, unless you are purchased a "favor". Usually, these favors span the length of 1-3 days of addmission to the surface world. Lucky for Skylar, his best friend had gotten him a 3-day favor. But unknown to Skylar, is that his favor is about to be extended.
Characters:
Age: 17
Sex: Male
Weapon: Sword
Description/Bio: The Hero of the story, Skylar doesn't really show any forward momentum to save the world. Since he no longer lives on Kelevor, he has no intention of saving or helping it. Skylar is a trustworthy person and trusts other people quickly. This usually leaves him in rough situations, but he relies on his friends to help him out of them.
Skylar is not really the fighting type, but he can hold his own against a tough opponent. With his skills with the Thunder element, Skylars Soul calls Zelith; the Yellow Soul Flame. Although at first he won't accept it, the events that take place while he encounters it will show him the truth. But when something happens to Skylars Soul Flame, Skylar soon realizes that he can no longer be himself anymore.
Age: 18
Sex: Male
Weapon: Double Swords
Description/Bio: One of the less mysterious characters in the game, Haru is Skylars childhood friend. Haru first met Skylar when he was 4 years old. Back then, there was no war, so they lived next to eachother in peace. Once war broke out though, their families were scattered, and they were seperated until 9 years later.
Haru boasts in his incredible skill with his Double Swords. Given to him by his father and mother; he never goes anywhere without them. He is one of the very few people in the world that can wield two swords and still have the skill and speed as if he were holding nothing. His strength adds to his personality, sometimes making him arrogant. Skylar has learned to deal with it, but it is not without its conflicts.
Age: Unknown. Made in 47 years. Buried for Unknown years.
Sex: Unknown. Looks Male.
Weapon: Arm Blaster
Description/Bio: Formally named Zyero, Zephyr comes from the past. Zephyr was, at the time when the Zylacs first showed up, just completed. He had been a 47 year old project, filled with everything there is to know about almost everything. Once completed though, they had to preserve him so that he would not be destroyed by the Zylacs. Although he was made as a gatherer for information, in his last year of development, when the Zylacs came, they installed into him, a remarkable one-of-a-kind chip. This chip was the only one ever made, because it had he characteristics of the growth of a human being. Meaning that as the years went by, he would become smarter and stronger than before.
He was buried underground for years, getting stronger and stronger as the chip in him can do on its own. Now, once an information gatherer, he is the only hope for mankind as it is soon time for him to awaken.
Oddly though, he is convinced that his main task is to keep the Soul Flame bearers alive at any cost. Though the facts behind this are unknown at first, the astonishing secret behind this can only be revealed throught time.
Age: 16
Sex: Female
Weapon: Bracelets
Description/Bio: Rayne is the princess of the Southern Kingdom. She is very formal, but is always questioning why there needs to be so much formality. She feels she could be a commoner amongst the other citizens. She was born and raised in the castle, and has never left its walls for any reason. With her 16th birthday ending, she begins to question why she cannot leave the castle. She also questions why she has two Guardians if she is always in the castle too.
Age: 64
Sex: Male
Weapon: Guantlets that temporarily increase his arm strength, so he can fight with his fists.
Description/Bio: Draight is a veteran of 31 years in the W.A.A. (World Alliance Army) Retiring after losing a dear friend in combat, he then set out to further his life in what he had immersed himself in, in the army. Piloting. He pursued being an Air Pilot for 4 more years, and then decided it was time to retire. Since then he has been a washed up has been. Returning home to a long lost daughter, and a wife that had long since left him, he secluded himself from the world, and began to live on his own in a far corner of the world.
Age: Looks 24
Sex: Male
Weapon: Ice Brand
Description/Bio: Trance is a very mysterious person, and is not very open. He speaks as though he has been alive for hundreds of years. He knows almost everything there is to know about Kelevor. Currently, he is Rayne's Guardian for life, by the promise of a long since dead friend. While around her, he tends to be open, but around others, he keeps to himself. He is a different type of Guardian, because he is not always with Rayne...only when she needs him, he is there.
Trance first makes an appearance when Skylar is in a tight situation. With his incredible strength, he saves Skylar, and from then on, he stays with him. He says that it's to meet up with a friend, but there seems to be other things on Trance's mind. Many things are unknown about him.
Age: Looks around 25-30
Sex: Male
Weapon: Elemental Pinwheels (Can attack with chosen element)
Description/Bio: Alkamar is Rayne's second and final Guardian. He has a special relation to Trance, although they are not brothers. Although he may seem cold at times, it is only due to his lonely past. He always says whats on his mind, and is not afraid to tell the truth about anything. Although he may seem like a bad choice as a Guardian, he has sworn himself to always being by Rayne's side. And he does not go anywhere without her.
Age: 9
Sex: Male
Weapon: Small Training Rod
Description/Bio: When Ledron was two years old, both of his parents died from seperate illnesses. At age three, he was adopted by a man named Tomura Miyagin; a martial artist who specializes in peaceful fighting that does not involve the use of limbs. While Ledron was adopted, Tomura had already adopted another child by the name of Simon Ramlik; a child prodigy who by the age of seven could solve all types of Algebraic equations in his mind.
Ledron was always a hot-head, and tried to be tough and show off whenever he could. (He is actually a pretty big coward.) While he trained with Tomaru, he would always fight until he could no longer stand. And when he lost, he would then make up an excuse. Ledron was not the type to take defeat so easily...even though he lost quite often.
Well, I hope you guys are still interested in CD. Comments are appreciated, and would be helpful too. Enjoy!!!
Game Demo:
Carpe Diem: The Living Flame Demo (http://www.savefile.com/projects/1009128)
Now, whilst downloading the demo, please read these points to better understand things.
1. Some battle sprites are not made yet. So if a sprite turns invisible, just do your best to continue. I will get them soon enough.
2. Any recource with a CD in front of it is not open to public use. Unless with my permission first. I would really appreciate that.
3. To get the full experience of the intro, it is advised that you warm up RM2k3 with another game first, to reduce skipping. (The intro is timed with the music.)
4. The sprinting system is not perfected. So be careful when using it. Especially when climbing ladders. Um..you also cant exit to the World Map while sprinting. It's another thing I can't fix yet.
Enjoy the demo.
Post by: Linkforce on November 24, 2006, 09:06:04 AM
Side Characters:
Screens:
Post by: Linkforce on November 24, 2006, 09:11:35 AM
Post by: KnuckleCrunch on November 24, 2006, 09:42:13 AM
still this game is good, but ive got a problem bout the mixed characs.... there different styles...
Post by: Fortet on November 24, 2006, 06:29:10 PM
Yeah >_>
:D
Post by: Linkforce on November 24, 2006, 07:07:02 PM
Oh, and check the first post. I put up my last demo. Go ahead and play. ^^
Post by: Moosetroop11 on November 24, 2006, 08:08:20 PM
Post by: KnuckleCrunch on November 25, 2006, 03:31:48 AM
Post by: Prometheous on December 01, 2006, 09:52:04 PM
Post by: Ben on December 01, 2006, 10:12:47 PM
Its the name of all kinds of games, and episodes of things...
similar overused latin sayingsand words include "Vini vidi vicci","Deus Ex Machina","Dominice"....and theres greek letters too...."Alpha, omega, gamma" etc.
Keep on using it linkforce. Looks good. Dont listen to know-it-alls that arent me. Dont listen to me either.
To change it now would be stupid.
It would be like changing your title, because of a commonm set of words like "Chronicles of" "The Legend of" "Adventures of"
Post by: Linkforce on December 01, 2006, 10:43:08 PM
I've been working on the game and things are moving wuickly. I don't know when I'll have a nw demo out, but progress is moving along so there's nothing to worry about. ^^
Also, today I thought I'd post up some more characters. These are the members of the Arakian Six.
Arakian Six:The Arakian Six has been around for around 215 years. They were formed to change the world to a "better" place in their eyes. Many saw tham as evil, but they were trying to "purify" the polluted and technological world. When the Zylacs came around, they severed a major blow, and were destroyed. They came back 52 years later, but with a new vision. They were re-formed to eradicate the new worldly foes. It was only composed of the strongest and most powerful of people. Since the time of the first six members, each new member had to be the old members son or daughter. It was simply heritage only. But long since then, and since the new uprising of the new Western King 4 years ago, the Arakian Six has become a corrupt and evil organization, doing undeground missions for the most pay. Also, since this time, the tradition of heritage-to-join has been extinguished and is now mostly composed of the strongest out there.
Members:
Ephram (No last name yet)
Age: ???
Sex: Male
Description/Bio: The Leader of the Arakian Six, Ephram is a very calm and mellow guy. He leads the Arakian Six, but not frontly though. He likes to give orders from behind a defense. Some may see this as cowardise, but he is an incredibly smart man, and can always outwit his opponents quickly. If things change in an instant, he will know what to do within a matter of seconds. He is never caught off guard, and is therefore never intimidated.
As far as his abilities go, he isn't very strong. Nor fast, or skilled in magic. He fights, but dislikes it. He is a man of the mind; able to psych out his opponents so that there is no need for a fight. Ephram's recent dissapearance has forced the Arakian Six members to appoint a temporary leader though. This temporary leader gets right to work, to try and take advantage of his temporary high point in the food chain.
Bersius Shelgot
Age: 48
Sex: Male
Description/Bio: Bersius is the second strongest of the six, but not very smart. He used to be a champion Martial Artist, until one dreadful day when his mother was kidnapped. He set out to find her, and when he did, she was found violated and dead with scars. Filled with rage, he went on a rampage and attacked the tribe that had captured his mom. He was far too outnumbered, and was captured. As punishment for fighting their people, the tribe chained him down, and pored boiling lava onto his faced. Severely burned, they left him on the shore to die there. He miraculously rose the next morning but was blind and could not smell anything. He somehow managed to find himself back to the village which had been abandoned last night. He stumbled upon an ancient tribe mask depicting the tribal God of hope. He wore it from then on, and swore revenge over his life. He was later recruited to the Arakian Six.
Cilvikea Rencid
Age: 26
Sex: Female
Description/Bio: When Cilvikea was born, her mother had died in the process. Through the early years, her father took care of her. One night though, a gang of theives came and stole everything from her village and burnt it down to the ground. Everyone died, and Cilvikea was left alone under rubble. The next morning though, when soldiers arived, they had found her just barely alive and took her to an orphanarium. There she was adopted by wicked parents who made her do slave work until she was 21 years old. Finally, one day while she was working in the fields, her spirit and her will broke, and she could not take it any more. She went to the shed and took out the field Sythe. She then killed her parents, and escaped that wretched place. After escaping, she soon found out that her real father was a member of the Arakian Six, and soon joined to live on her fathers legacy.
Lankers Hymnal
Age: 27
Sex: Male
Description/Story: Lankers was raised in a very bad part of the world. A slums if you will. He was poor all his life, and didn't really have a good relationship with his parents. His mother was always away, and his fatherwas alwatys at work. One day though, Lankers followed his father to work. He had never known hwere he worked, and just got curious that day. When his father had reached his work, he knew right away that Lankers had followed him. Little did Lankers know, that his father was a member of the Arakian Six. What else he didn't know was that his father was a very big drug addict. Being on drugs at the time, Lankers' father beat Lankers nearly to death for following him. He broke his arm in three places, and officialy disabld it. Years later, Lankers' father had died from Overdose, and Lankers assumed his position in the Arakian Six. Since being there, he has been granted with a magical aura made specifically to make his limp arm into a weapon.
Lascius Tavigard
Age: 20
Sex: Male
Description/Bio: Lacius is the oldest of the two brothers. Lacius was always the mis-understood child in the family. His father was a well respected and well known scientist in the A.S.G. After much preserverance in his studies, Lacius' father than was accepted as a member of the Arakian Six. Not for his strength particularly, but for his knowledge. Since then, Lacius' father never wanted kids. But was forced to when he was nearing his death. Lacius is a very calm and collected person. He hides almost all of his feelings inside. Very smart and tactical, he usually comes up with most of the plans for the Arakian Six. At birth, he and his brother both had an un-definable birthmark on their foreheads. This "special insignia" allows them to telopathically comunicate. Lacius doesn't give much of a front, but with all he can do, he just might one of the most powerful members.
Rander Tavigard
Age: 17
Sex: Male
Description/Bio: Rander is the youngest of the two brothers. Always the trouble maker in the family, Rander liked to break the rules and make new ones to benefit himself. At the age off 17, he discovered a secret power that he had as a result from the birthmark on his forehead. He had the power to control and manipulate fire. As he began to harness this power, his physical appearance began to change. His hair began to turn red, and he eventually could no longer feel his hands or fingers. The nerves in his hands and fingers were permanently destroyed from the intense heat. But Rander soon used this to his advantage. Now he could use fire without any pain in his hands. Rander is a hot-head, and doesn't usually think before he acts. He'll rush into any battle just to prove a point. No matter what the odds. Since he can control fire, he is a force to be reckoned with. With his brother controlling the front, and Rander with support, they are almost impossible to beat.
Hope you guys like 'em. Comments are appreciated. ^^'
Post by: Linkforce on December 03, 2006, 09:32:54 PM
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Originally posted by gemini
"Carpe Diem" Is latin.
Its the name of all kinds of games, and episodes of things...
similar overused latin sayingsand words include "Vini vidi vicci","Deus Ex Machina","Dominice"....and theres greek letters too...."Alpha, omega, gamma" etc.
Keep on using it linkforce. Looks good. Dont listen to know-it-alls that arent me. Dont listen to me either.
To change it now would be stupid.
It would be like changing your title, because of a commonm set of words like "Chronicles of" "The Legend of" "Adventures of"
Yeah, you're right. When I started the game, I never heard of a game with Carpe Diem in it. And I used the title because it DOES have a lot to do with the game. So yes, it will not be changed. ^^'
Post by: Fortet on December 08, 2006, 04:51:33 AM
Post by: ImmortalDreamer on December 08, 2006, 05:55:36 PM
Edit: Downloaded. But I have a question. Did you actually make the all the resources with CD in front of them cause I've seen some of them on other sites. Mainly the SC characters.
Post by: Meiscool-2 on December 10, 2006, 08:32:25 AM
Quit editing my posts Ace. Leave me out of your problems.
Post by: Linkforce on December 10, 2006, 08:05:30 PM
Immortal Dreamer: Um....anything with a CD in front was either created by/for me, edited for/by me.
Meiscool: Thanks. Yeah, I realized that since these other characters are pretty big in-game, they deserve full bios.
Post by: ImmortalDreamer on December 11, 2006, 05:42:21 PM
A Review by Immortal
Story (8/10)
I rated what's there so far. I enjoyed most of this. Some of the dialog could have been better, but w/e. I can't really give too many suggestions here, but I want to comment on how much the intro with the scientists resembles Xenosaga.
Graphics (9/10)
I haven't seen many of the main character sets used in this game and liked them a lot. Haru's attack animation was paticularly cool. Good old Mack and Blue chipsets are usually good even though they're overdone. (I'm using them in my game as well though, so no complaints).
Gameplay (7/10)
Average RPG gameplay. No CBS or CMS. Dungeons get repetitive after a while. Also, that first boss was hard which was a good change of pace. Most rm2k/2k3 games are too easy nowadays.
Music (6.5/10)
I've heard many of these songs in other games, but everything was used well.
Overall (7.6/10)
Good game. I really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work!
Post by: Linkforce on December 13, 2006, 05:19:18 AM
And yeah, the intro is a lot like Xenosage I guess. I do gather my inspiration from that game after all. ^^'
Post by: Linkforce on December 22, 2006, 09:31:34 PM
For the past week or so I've been working on Chapter 3. Progress has been pretty good, and a lot has been added to the game. Characters have been updated and the story has branched out some more. I don't know when I'll have a new demo out, but rest assured the game is going well.
Now for a screen....or two:
The two "supposed" W.A, soldiers find themselves in a situation they never expected to get into.
Haru and Skylar get into their first fight.....well....since the game started anyways. lol
Hope you guys like 'em. Comments are appreciated.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on December 22, 2006, 10:06:39 PM
Post by: Fortet on December 22, 2006, 10:07:26 PM
Post by: Linkforce on January 04, 2007, 11:39:24 PM
Hmm...well, it's been a few days and I'm still working on the game. I'm trying to work towards a new demo. Maybe once I finish Chapter 4. I'm still in the beggining/middle of Chapter 3 so that may be awhile. Rest assured I'm still working hard at the game. I hope I still have my loyal fans. Um...I'm open for questions and suggestions if anyone would like to know something about the story or have any ideas I can use.
Thanks for reading. ^^
By the way...if anybody has played the demo, I would like to know how you thought it was. Anything at all please. Thanks. :p
Post by: blackskullwarlock on January 05, 2007, 04:15:40 AM
On the first screenshot, what is the second W.A soldier doing? Licking the ground? Listening to the rocks? Probably not, so that pose needs to be changed if you ask me. Unless of course it's another situation involving such a position?
As for the second screenshot, you pulled the feel of the scene nicely. Finally the two friends gets into a fight. It is fitting since all good and solid friendships have a fight once in a while. You can clearly see how young Ledron is simply by the way he's sitting on the ground. Give him a lollipop and you're set. Trance sighing is the spotlight here, it shows just how much older he is when it comes to behavior.
Overall, nice work, as always. It's not much to comment about but it shows progress. That's all there is to it.
Post by: Linkforce on January 05, 2007, 08:09:37 PM
Post by: Spike21 on January 06, 2007, 03:12:51 AM
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Originally posted by ImmortalDreamer
Haru's attack animation was paticularly cool.
Boyah!
I mean... Great game Linkforce. Yeah.
Post by: Linkforce on January 10, 2007, 05:21:26 AM
The Zylacs are creatures who first made an appearance when the Soul Flames created the Star Stone. They are deadly creatures who are relentless when in battle. Very little is known about them, but they seem to travel in massive pacts. It is very rare to see only a few at a time. Zylacs appear through rifts in space that appear without warning. These rifts usually have a purple glow to them, and it serves as a gateway in which the Zylacs can travel through. To date there has only been one man brave...or crazy enough to actually jump into one of these rifts. He has never been heard of since. It is unknown what the true purpose of these creatures is, but as far as the world is concrned, life would be a lot better without them.
Now for a few different types of Zylacs. (All sprites are 100% custom by Bluhman and Spike21).
Reaver
Zelot Pawn
Zelot Knight
Malasii
Zethanian
Gatastar
Hope you guys found that interesting. Comments are appreciated. :D
Oh, and no stealing. These are custom for my game. Thanks. ^^'
Post by: InsaneJP on January 10, 2007, 09:51:24 PM
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Originally posted by Linkforce
Hello all again. Well, instead of an update, I figure I'd post something cool. As some of you may know, there is a race in my game known as the Zylacs. These creatures play a very important role in the story and will be encountered numerous times throughout the game. So why not show them off and explain them a bit? Well, here's exactly that:
The Zylacs are creatures who first made an appearance when the Soul Flames created the Star Stone. They are deadly creatures who are relentless when in battle. Very little is known about them, but they seem to travel in massive pacts. It is very rare to see only a few at a time. Zylacs appear through rifts in space that appear without warning. These rifts usually have a purple glow to them, and it serves as a gateway in which the Zylacs can travel through. To date there has only been one man brave...or crazy enough to actually jump into one of these rifts. He has never been heard of since. It is unknown what the true purpose of these creatures is, but as far as the world is concrned, life would be a lot better without them.
Now for a few different types of Zylacs. (All sprites are 100% custom by Bluhman and Spike21).
Reaver
Zelot Pawn
Zelot Knight
Malasii
Zethanian
Gatastar
Hope you guys found that interesting. Comments are appreciated. :D
Oh, and no stealing. These are custom for my game. Thanks. ^^'
hmmmmm idk if i like these because there alot like my Umbra are all black and all evil like.... hmmmmmm
Post by: Linkforce on January 10, 2007, 10:04:53 PM
Post by: Dominicy on January 10, 2007, 10:08:15 PM
Post by: Linkforce on January 10, 2007, 10:21:07 PM
Post by: blackskullwarlock on January 11, 2007, 04:58:21 AM
If they can travel anywhere thru a simple portal, are smart enough to create a way to travel thru space rifts and attack in massive packs....why aren't they already ruling the world?
Post by: Linkforce on January 11, 2007, 05:11:35 AM
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Originally posted by blackskullwarlock
If they can travel anywhere thru a simple portal, are smart enough to create a way to travel thru space rifts and attack in massive packs....why aren't they already ruling the world?
That's a very good question and also a part of the mystery behind them in the story. It's that reason alone that boggles the minds of everyone on Kelevor. It's true that they could easily rule/destroy the world, but they seem to have their own intentions. Although they attack in massive packs at a time, they always seem to have a target. Maybe there are bigger powers behind it all? I know! :p But in order to find out you must play the game. Not much of an answer, but just know that they are smarter then you think.
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on January 11, 2007, 05:26:09 AM
There's your comment :P
Post by: InsaneJP on January 12, 2007, 03:34:09 AM
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Originally posted by Linkforce
Hm.....well, I've had these Zylacs in my game since I first posted it. Their design has changed though....and since the last time I've seen an Umbra, they look nothing alike. but you may have redesigned them too so I dunno.
its cool i MAY make them different