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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: MrMister on November 26, 2006, 04:53:20 AM

Title: Kramer Rant
Post by: MrMister on November 26, 2006, 04:53:20 AM
So I'm pretty pissed about this Michael Richards thing.
Calling someone names is not a huge offense.
No one made a big deal out of the heckler who responded to Kramer's colour commentary with "fucking cracker-ass motherfucker" and "fucking white boy."
Well of course not, because only white people can be racist.
The craziest thing ever is that Kramer is being SUED by these whiny feminine asswads. RACISM IS NOT A CRIME.
YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT. That is what America is founded on.
He didn't physically harm these people.
Words do not matter, it's when you take action that there is a problem.
If Kramer does get sued, it's sickening to think that there's a chance it won't get dismissed as the frivolous cash-grab it is.
The video of Michael Richard's freakout is on YouTube.
I can't believe people are slandering him on such a grand scale for calling some people niggers.

So, that's my lameass rant. The moral is that name calling is not against the law. He apologized for what he did, and even though his apology was lame rambling about Hurricane Katrina, you gotta feel sorry for the guy. People are making him out to be some kind of monster. The worst thing I can call him is lazy. Being racist is just a lazy way of not having to hate people for their personalities..
And now I don't know who I love more, Mel Gibson or Kramer.

DISCUSS HOW MUCH YOU LOVE KRAMER!
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 26, 2006, 04:55:59 AM
Dude, you're a god.
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 04:59:58 AM
Kramer is better than all of you.

I agree fully. Its not a Crime. Freedom of speech and all that shazz.
He doesn't deserve to get sued. But hes not standing up for himself in the afterwath. Besides, Kramer's a Jew anyhow. He should just pull the race card on top of the race card. It would be like playing a consecutive deuce in crazy eights, in a wierd sort of way.

Sticks up the anus, it would seem.
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on November 26, 2006, 05:05:17 AM
Meh, pulling the race card is racist.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 26, 2006, 05:12:10 AM
Anyone who ever uses the word racist in description of another is racist.
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 05:15:30 AM
pwn^
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Post by: DarkFlood2 on November 26, 2006, 05:24:36 AM
I think ZKX just owned himself.   O.o
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 26, 2006, 05:30:39 AM
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I think ZKX just owned himself.   O.o


Glad you got that. I was just trying to say that no matter what, everyone is racist to some extent.
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Post by: Archem on November 26, 2006, 05:33:13 AM
Racism is what happens when a word is restricted. Go ahead, say any racist comment you want twenty or thirty times, and it starts to sounds like a boring word, a common word, and it loses its power. It's terrible that these words hurt people in such ways, but it's worse that we restrict freedom of speech just to keep these words in check, consequently increasing its impact. A word gets its power from its rarity. think anything in the world, gold for example. If you've got a twenty pound chunk of gold, you're suddenly a powerful man. But make that gold as common as aluminum, then it's nothing special. Power comes from restriction, and as much as I hate to admit it, the only way to truly kill racist words is to allow them to become a commonplace piece of our vocabulary. Racist actions, on the other hand, should never be tolerated. But that's not what's on display here, is it?
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 05:34:28 AM
I hope this topic becomes a racist flame war.
I hope Smo gets all girly on Mid again, or something.
And If it comes to that, I hope to watch from the sidelines.
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on November 26, 2006, 05:46:15 AM
It's a Meh, and I'm black.

I don't think he should get sued, but I don't feel sorry for the guy.
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Post by: Razor on November 26, 2006, 05:52:39 AM
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Besides, Kramer's a Jew anyhow.

What?
Not from what I can tell. Jerry's the jew.

Anyway, MrMr is a gillion percent right. And it's hard to get that high.
Hopefully his lawyers pull out the ol' free speech thing and everything will work out.

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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 05:54:06 AM
dude, the whole cast is jewish.
75% of hollywood is jewish.
Have you not looked at his nose?
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Post by: SonicChaos7 on November 26, 2006, 05:54:36 AM
You guys say freedom of speech like we have the freedom to say whatever we want, whenever we want, however we want. The original intent was not to have complete freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is supposed to allow you to be able to say what you want, but in way that is not offensive or contains threats or desecration of a person. There have been quite a few court cases over such trivial matters. Yes, you have the freedom of speech, but there are limitations. The clear and present danger test is one such example, though not the best.
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 05:56:55 AM
Well, Sonic...
Its not very well "Freedom" of speech then, is it...XP
Its "very open, but restricted so that you dont offend" anyone.

Thats silly. You're silly. Whos a big silly? YOU are.
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Post by: Razor on November 26, 2006, 05:57:56 AM
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Originally posted by gemini
dude, the whole cast is jewish.
75% of hollywood is jewish.
Have you not looked at his nose?

I know nonJews with big noses. Besides, surely wikipedia would say something. It says Jerry's a Jew. But I already knew that. At this point, I'm wondering how much times I can say Jew in a paragraph. Jewity Jewity Jew Jew.


edit 1:NEVERMIND It does say he's a Jew. Kramer's a Jew. You're right.

edit 2:Or is he?
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Remarks about Jews

On 22 November 2006, reports surfaced that Richards had made remarks about Jews during a stand-up routine in April 2006 that could be regarded as anti-semitic. Richards called a heckler a "****ing Jew" and said "You people are the cause of Jesus dying."[4] The publicist Richards hired after fallout from his comments, Howard Rubenstein, confirmed the report, but added that the remarks were made as part of the comedy act, and stated that Richards is Jewish.[18] The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, citing anonymous sources said to be familiar with Richards including a television director who is said to have worked with Richards for several years, has claimed that Richards is not Jewish and was raised a Catholic.[19]


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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 06:00:10 AM
Well I know Dreyfus, and Alexander were also Jewish. That was a couple of Jewy Jews right there. Im not 100%, but Im pretty sure Kramer was a Jewy MacJewerson. Not to say that it wasnt a jew cast of nil talent. Those jews had the jew-bility meter cranked up to 12 there. Crazy Jews. Jew jew jew.
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Post by: Razor on November 26, 2006, 06:04:53 AM
Wow, I did not know Jewrge Costanza and Elanie McJew were also Jewish. This is getting ridiculous, but amusing. Wow, wikipedia proves true: They were all Jews.
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 06:06:22 AM


Doesnt slander have to like, affect your carreer, income, or reputation?

I made a remark about your double standard in freedom of speech. Im not going to read your constitution again.

Dont wear your mangina to charas. You're Still a big Silly.  :P





 :eah, its alot of jews in one jew-comedy, if you ask me.. Who pays for lunch, I wonder? Jew jew jew jew.Newman i think was a jew too. We should have Jew-Bingo.

"UNDER THE JEW......32"
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Post by: MrMister on November 26, 2006, 06:19:26 AM
Sonic, you're a liar and a tool.
You haven't studied ****, and freedom of speech is all-encompassing.
Americans are supposed to have the right to burn the American flag in protest, too.
And we aren't even debating whether the guy is racist or not, I'm saying that you're allowed to be racist if you want to.
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Post by: SonicChaos7 on November 26, 2006, 06:24:36 AM
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Originally posted by MrMister
Sonic, you're a liar and a tool.
You haven't studied ****, and freedom of speech is all-encompassing.
Americans are supposed to have the right to burn the American flag in protest, too.
And we aren't even debating whether the guy is racist or not, I'm saying that you're allowed to be racist if you want to.


Sure you can be racist, however, Article 20 prohibits certain forms of hate speech, which can include racist remarks. Racial slurs count in that regard.
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 06:27:36 AM
well...Im not an american. I say whatever I want.


JEW JEW JEW JEW JEW.
Besides, its Comedy. Theres a pretty big grey area that you seem to be manipulating for the sake of your argument, which was weak as hell to begin with. You're a silly wiener face. Nay...Silly Wiener face bish.


This whole thing reeks of bad Publicity stunt anyhow.
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Post by: Archem on November 26, 2006, 06:28:04 AM
Slander is a bullshit term that says "someone made fun of me publically, so I'll bend the law to my will". **** you, slander. You have dirty anal sex with masteurbating crab testicles.

SLANDER!!!
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 06:29:05 AM
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Originally posted by Archem2
Slander is a bullshit term that says "someone made fun of me publically, so I'll bend the law to my will". **** you, slander. You have dirty anal sex with masteurbating crab testicles.

SLANDER!!!


OMFG. UR SO GE77ING SU3D.
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Post by: Archem on November 26, 2006, 06:30:19 AM
My point exactly. :p
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Post by: MrMister on November 26, 2006, 06:39:28 AM
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Originally posted by SonicChaos7
Sure you can be racist, however, Article 20 prohibits certain forms of hate speech, which can include racist remarks. Racial slurs count in that regard.

Article 20?
I thought there was like 7 articles.
And I just watched the American President on TBS.. I think I know a little more about free speech than you..
You can say anything short of 'fire' in a movie theatre, calling someone a nignog isn't in breach of anything.
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Post by: Ben on November 26, 2006, 06:46:28 AM
its true. nignog. jigaboo. crackahazz honky. porch monkey.

Its just frowned upon.


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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on November 26, 2006, 07:13:08 AM
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Originally posted by MrMister
Sonic, you're a liar and a tool.
You haven't studied ****, and freedom of speech is all-encompassing.
Americans are supposed to have the right to burn the American flag in protest, too.
And we aren't even debating whether the guy is racist or not, I'm saying that you're allowed to be racist if you want to.


Actually, unless its retired and burned by the army, burning a flag is illegal.

But yeah, the way freedom of speech works is you're allowed to say/think/feel whatever you want, but you have to be ready to take the consequences of that statement/thought.