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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Glitch on February 12, 2007, 04:55:29 PM
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Yeah, so, I'm on the verge of going insane because of my boss. He is the most incompetent man I have ever met in my life. He is lazy, has no common sense, has no business skills, or people skills. And spends the majority of his day sitting on his computer staring at political websites. He is going to run this store into the ground.
And his wife, the co-owner of the business, happens to think he is God's gift to the Earth. He does nothing wrong in her eyes so there is nothing I can do about this. I'm the manager of his store, I deal with the customers, I deal with shipping things, I manage transactions, I make all payment and shiping arrangements, and most importantly I have to clean up his messes after he screws things up. Yet he refuses to listen to me or take any suggestions on how to improve the business, if the idea isn't his, he doesn't like it.... He's going to drive me to alcohol. I don't have the time now, but I figure later on I'll post the list of the retarded things he does.
Anyway, the reason I started this. Does anyone else have a similar story, or a similar boss. Or more importantly, does anyone have any advice on what I can do, or any ways for me to keep sane?
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This has happened to me a few times. My advice, dont hesitate to resort to liquor to keep sane. Booze is your friend.
And you're young, so If it gets too serious(drinkin') you can take some time off for rehab.
If you work for the guy, and you honestly believe the business is being run under, then jump ship, and bask in knowing that an idiot is failing at life, and you were smart and ballsy enough to diversify.
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Well, I was kinda joking about the alcohol. I prolly wouldn't ever turn to that cause I hate the taste. ( And no one give me that bull about it being an aquired {sp?} taste ) :p
I can't really jump ship, I mean, I really need the money to save up for a car, and this is my only means of income at the time. And at the most I'll only have to put up with him for one more year, when I move to Ann Arbor... but a year is a long time...
And I don't really want him to fail at life, he's got three kids, and though his wife has horrible judgement, she's really nice, and so I don't want them to fail.
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Bah. He's paying you. Whether or not he runs the buisiness into the ground isn't your concern if he keeps paying you :p Once the buisiness is bankrupt, then you can jump ship. Try and remember that he's in charge, not you, and don't feel so responsible for the place. That'll keep you sane and rich.
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If I were you, I'd look for another job. If you get hired at some other place that you like better, THEN you can jump ship. Thats kinda what I did, my job was driving me crazy, so I started looking for another job, once I got it, I was gonna quit my old job, but then they gave me a promotion at my old job, with easier work and a $2 an hour pay raise, so I decided to work at both jobs.
At my first job, I never talk with my store manager, she seems nice though. We have 4 main supervisors that are basically my bosses, two are awesome, two suck. Yesturday, I was working as a cashier at a grocery store, I had a person bagging for me (an old lady). My supervisor told me that I couldn't help out my bagger at all after I was done with the order, and i was supposed to just let her do it all because that way I could check items faster. But really, if theres a big heap of groceries there, and it takes my bagger five minutes to bag it all, the customer is gonna get out of there faster if I help her. One of my other supervisors there just puts his hand in my face when I try to tell him something. For example, I was supposed to be working at a register with someone all day, but yet my schedual said I was supposed to give someone pushing carts a break. I tried telling him, he told be to go away and stay at the register, then when I didn't go out to give the guy a break, I got in trouble.
At my other job though, all my managers/supervisors and the store boss are awesome. But I get paid less :(
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Both my parents work where I work (At a golf course). My Mom's been a beverage cart lady, got upgraded to bartender, got upgraded again to food and beverage manager (Bartender that orders food), was on of the two people who worked at the golf course (along with two other courses owned by the same guy, such that out of all three of these only my Mom and a guy who still works there) that weren't fired when the old manager sold them all, was downgraded to normal bartender when the kitchen closed, and was upgraded again to head Bartender with power to fire other bartenders if they suck, which she has only had to do once so far. This is over the course of 7 years.
My Dad has been a bagboy there for about two to three years but has been golfing there for at least five. He runs a one-man fence business on the side. I think maybe once there was a bagboy that wasn't a grown man, despite the "boy" title.
I just got hired as a range picker (drive a cart around for a few hours with a ballcatcher tied to the front, and then help out the bagboy) out of necessity and stand to make roughly $100 a week for 8 hours of labor, but that's with about $7 an hour plus split tips (range picker gets a small piece after all the tips are pooled out of kindness). I've known everyone who's worked here since they started, and have helped out when they needed it. I don't think I'll be having any boss troubles. :P
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Originally posted by Moosetroop11
Bah. He's paying you. Whether or not he runs the buisiness into the ground isn't your concern if he keeps paying you :p Once the buisiness is bankrupt, then you can jump ship. Try and remember that he's in charge, not you, and don't feel so responsible for the place. That'll keep you sane and rich.
I would like to try and just let him be in charge and not feel responsible, but I am still the manager, so I am partly responsible for how well this business does. I was its first employee, I've been here since the day before it opened, I'm kinda attached to the place. And so far I've done my job well, I've kept the place alive internally. But I can't keep doing that if he keeps driving me crazy and doing his best to kill business.
Not to mention he often times tries to place the blame for his mistakes squarely on me or our employees to his wife, and it's no question who she believes. So I hear it from him, his wife, and our irrate customers about everything that we're doing wrong and it's clearly not his fault...
Oh, and DB, I think I'm gonna do that.
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Well, once you get a new job, you can laugh and watch that business crash and burn from the sidelines!
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I reiterate, I don't want it to crash and burn. I've been there since day 0, I have a vested interest in the place, I want it to succeed. What's making me mad is my retard of a boss.
Let's put it this way.
How would you feel if you were building a car. Someone else was paying for the parts, but you did all the work. You spend months painstakingly putting this thing together. Finally, 4 months later its a beautiful car, and you're proud of it, but then the guy paying for the parts says "It's my car, I'm driving it" then subsequently gets in the car and crashes it right into a wall, destroying everything you just worked for.
That's how this is...
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Dude....think about this
Are you are willing to comprimise your career and best interest, because of a subjective sentimental attachment to a business that somebody else owns?
Dude, find some investors...or take out a loan, and embrace the entrepeneurial spirit.Or, find something else, and get your hours cut back to part time or casual if you are that attached to the business.
Ive been in a similar situation and I understand you've vested intrest and time here, but dont sell yourself short. I know its hard to just turn your back...and not feel like a dirtface.
If the guy was going to help your carreer substancially, he'd listen to your advice, or comprimise for efficiency's sake.It's counter productive to your career to invest youre foundational years as an adult to a poor-sighted man (business wise....I dont know how well his eyes work)
If you cut back to part time, and get other work, he may respect your opinion more too. It adds both an elemtent of Experience to your 'portfolio' and puts enough fear into an employer to jolt a dude out of complacency. And if it Dosent, then he obviously dosent respect your opinion, and as such, you shouldnt waste your time with his business.
Thats my opinion on it anyways.
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Well, it's not quite so severe that my career is on the line, this is just a job, I'm trying to save up money for stuff like a car, and school. I figure another year of this and I'm moving to Ann Arbor, then from there to Boston, In 3 years I'll be in law school, so it's kind of a matter of how can I learn to cope with the guy.
As it is though, I don't like dominating the conversation, doesn't anybody else got an annoying boss?
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Well.....(im self employed....so right now I dont sorry)
To draw reference to your car metaphore.
If the other dude paid for all the parts....And paid you to assemble them into the car, andat the end of it all said "Sorry punk....Im the only one driving this car...But keep working on it"
Honestly Id have to just think "Well....He paid for it....And I got paid...Id sure like to drive the car.....but uh.....Whatever"
And if you'll be onto better things further down the road, then add this:
"Ill have a better car than that one day too"
As for coping with the guy, Dont take him too seriously. Try singing a funny song in your head when youre mad....or chewing on a toothpick.....Or think of how awesome a blow-job feels. Anything to get you through.
I understand not wanting to drink.I respect you for it...
So the question is not "How to cope with dude" but "how to not let coping with dude make you crazygonuts or a 2 pund bag with three pounds of frustration in it"
I used to do the silly song thing though. It worked fun. Take an annoying song and change the lyrics.And its great for drowning out idiot authority.
Sorry man....I wish I had more for you.
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Originally posted by Glitch
Well, it's not quite so severe that my career is on the line, this is just a job, I'm trying to save up money for stuff like a car, and school. I figure another year of this and I'm moving to Ann Arbor, then from there to Boston, In 3 years I'll be in law school, so it's kind of a matter of how can I learn to cope with the guy.
As it is though, I don't like dominating the conversation, doesn't anybody else got an annoying boss?
I mentioned two earlier, but I realized I had another one last night.
So at my job, there was 5 of us working. Two peope were working at the cash register, there was me and another person on the sales floor, and my manager whos basically another sales associate. The store was really dead, and I was working on stocking shelves. My manager and the other sales associate are talking about WoW for probably two hours, every 10 minutes or so my manager is yelling at me that I need to get more stuff done. I'm basically taking care of the whole store, helping customers and everything, and trying to stock on top of that, so I was buisy as hell, and I get yelled at for not doing enough, and my manager and the other guy were just standing in the middle of the isle talking the whole time. If I needed something out of our lockup (such as windows vista) I had to ask my manager to get it out, first he was just ignoring me, then he started walking to the lockup, but every 10 steps or so he would stop and continue his convo about WoW, finally 10 minutes later, he gets vista out of the lockup, and I finally get it to the customer. Then on his way back to his spot, he talks to me over the radio and says I need to work on isle 14 cuz the post it notes were all messed up. As I walk over to 14, the other associate tells me to pull down some paper shredders, so I try to do that, and then the two continue to talk about WoW...
Work sux, but you get paid...
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Work sux, but you get paid...[/B]
As sad as it seems, this is the root it all comes down to.