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Off-Topic => Archive => Old Game Discussion => Topic started by: Finality on March 09, 2007, 09:10:06 AM
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I am currently at a lack of screenshots or demos so your just gonna have to trust me.
Godslayer Episode 1
Birth of Darkness
Story:
The world was created by three gods. Ragnarok created the rock that is Earth, Valion covered this rock with vegetation, and Finality created a whole mess of creatures to inhabit it. For a time these three gods lived on their creation until man, with it's lust for power, captured the gods in weapons to use against each other. From the greed and hatred of these humans a fourth god was created in the form of a man, Delete.
For most of episode 1 the story centers around Adrian. He is a college student studying game design with his girlfriend Aiowen and they live in a house in a rural town in Lalorath, which is a democratic country not much different from the U.S. A religious sect tries to kill Adrian one night claiming he is the antigod. The story unfolds around the mysteries of the religious sect and Adrian's odd alterego, Delete.
Characters:
Adrian: Adrian is about 20 years old and lives with his girlfriend. He is known to pass out at random moments and is terrified of living alone. He is a rather nice guy who would rather die then listen to a girl cry. He is in a constrant struggle with a religious sect who tries to assassinate him and the voice, Delete, in his head.
Aiowen: Adrian's girlfriend who joins when she attempts to save his life the night of the attack. She is 19 and according to Adrian an excellent cook. She is the only one who knows about Delete and for most of the game refuses to tell anyone out of fear that he will come back.
Slyph: When the world was near destruction by humans wise men took all weapon above and including guns and destroyed them. Slyph was an engineer who reinvented the gun and is now persued by the law. Adrian and him butt heads often until they both decide that they could use the others powers.
Cari: A higher up in the religious sect. After meeting Adrian she joins him to stay near him until Delete awakens. She is annoying, rude, and over all unpleasant to the rest of the party but her divine healing powers keep the others from killing her on spot. (Many times Slyph says clearly 'You are lucky for those healing powers or I would kill you right here.')
An important NPC Karth, also a sect member, appears many times to hinder Adrian and offer challenging boss fights if not just humorously overzealous dialogue. Pay attention to this guy though. He is important.
Boring Stuff:
This is a more modern day RPG so there is no 'Magic' in that sence of the word. Each character has a skill group.
Adrian - Dark Divine
Aiowen - Skills (until she recieves the Valion)
Slyph - Engineering
Cari - Divine
So far I am using the basic rmxp battle system because try as I might I cannot understand Ruby... but I have big hopes for the battle system once I get control of it.
This game delves deeply into current issues such as war, hate crimes, religion (or lack thereof), weapons of mass destruction, and even school shootings and as such may be found inappropriate by some gamers... This is your final warning so don't complain to me like everyone else does. ^^
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delete them all ha ha ha!!!
:guns: :frag: :violin:
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Yes actually the name did come from that. It was a joke that stuck. Just like an optional boss I intend to stick endgame named Triciajamiekaren which is another joke that stuck. Good luck pronouncing that by the way ^^
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Triss-ee-ah Jamaica-on?
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nope.
Tricia Jamie Karen
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Wow. It sounds political and controverial. I've never seen an edgy RPG. Good luck to you, sir!
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Originally posted by Dragoon de Sol
nope.
Tricia Jamie Karen
Hah hah... yeah me and some friends glued our moms names together ^^ Triciajamiekaren was born... Actually not pronounced exactly that way... but that is how it came around.
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Didn't really read it, but I HIGHLY advise against using Ragnarok as a character name. Remember, it's a cataclysmic event combined of several events, not a name of a single entity.
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Didn't really read it, but I HIGHLY advise against using Ragnarok as a character name. Remember, it's a cataclysmic event combined of several events, not a name of a single entity.
and an online game, but you didn't join that to end up blowing up the company who made the game *pictures someone as cloud trying to stop RENOkirbyx from breaking the support beam for some odd reason.*
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Originally posted by Dominicy
Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Didn't really read it, but I HIGHLY advise against using Ragnarok as a character name. Remember, it's a cataclysmic event combined of several events, not a name of a single entity.
and an online game, but you didn't join that to end up blowing up the company who made the game *pictures someone as cloud trying to stop RENOkirbyx from breaking the support beam for some odd reason.*[/B]
YOU ARE HILARIOUS.
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Question: Why do people think it is so cool to associate darkness with evil? When you look at your shadow do you go: "Oh noes a demon!"?
Try not bead around the bush by saying "darkness" in the place of "evil". It is a big cliche.
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Originally posted by Darkfox
Question: Why do people think it is so cool to associate darkness with evil? When you look at your shadow do you go: "Oh noes a demon!"?
Try not bead around the bush by saying "darkness" in the place of "evil". It is a big cliche.
Yeah. You're living proof of this, because you're dark, yet you're not evil.
.... or are you?
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Originally posted by Dominicy
Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Didn't really read it, but I HIGHLY advise against using Ragnarok as a character name. Remember, it's a cataclysmic event combined of several events, not a name of a single entity.
and an online game, but you didn't join that to end up blowing up the company who made the game *pictures someone as cloud trying to stop RENOkirbyx from breaking the support beam for some odd reason.*[/B]
...What?
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.... or are you?
*musical sting*
Dark in truth is just the dimming of light.
In game logic though it is just an alternate element to light, in it's own right is neither good nor evil and can be used for good just as much as it can be used for evil. Just like light can be used for evil as much as dark can be used for good. These cliches of light VS dark do get really troublesome. Same with stories that revolve around some "prophecy" or "it is fated that... blah blah blah" type storyline.
I'd make it known that unless it can be done in an original fashion these kind of cliches get rather monotinous.
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Originally posted by Darkfox
Question: Why do people think it is so cool to associate darkness with evil? When you look at your shadow do you go: "Oh noes a demon!"?
Fear of the darkness is a deep-rooted emotional response. We are very visual people; we rely a lot on our eyes. When it's dark we can't see nearly as well. When it's dark we're used to being asleep so we're weary and not at our emotional or physical peak.
When is the best time for an ambush? When it's dark, since people won't see you coming until its too late. If you're in the woods, when do people most fear animal attacks? At night, since predators such as wolves are nocturnal and can see far better than humans in dim light. When do people most fear getting mugged? At night, when things are dim and anybody else that is around might not see what's going on.
It isn't much of a stretch to take "I'm afraid of what might be in the dark" to "Things in the dark are probably hostile" all the way to "Anything in the dark is probably evil." It's not cliche - it's the product of thousands of years of human society.
Edit: though I'll agree that light vs dark conflict in RPGs and other stories is played out.
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Besides, it's metaphorical.
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Although it has already been said I didn't really mean darkness as in evil. Adrian is a good person, it says so in his bio, and yet he controls the power of darkness on the side of good. And most of the enemies are church members with holy or light abilities. In fact when designing the game the whole light vs. dark thing never crossed my mind. It was more of a logic vs. religion sort of base for the storyline. And even as the writer of the story even I am not totally sure the path the characters took is 'right' by anyones standards but merely the most 'fun' or most logical. I mean in reality anyone who does what Adrian does (multiple genocide and the planned destruction of an entire people) would be closely related in story to Hitler, yet he is the main character and clearly not a bad person in any right.
Ragnarok was an old name that stuck. Any other suggestions however would be appreciated... I mean this game was originally called "Eternal Destiny" until some nice people here at the forum helped me reach the decision to change to Godslayer. ^^
I avoided cliche as much as possible but honestly going out of your way to avoid cliche shows just as badly as the cliche would have anyway sometimes.
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lol, just to be ironic in one of my games the dark guy is good and the light chick's evil :3
also, meiscool, was that comment on what I said sarcastic? cause I have this gnawing feeling that it wasn't. O___O
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Originally posted by SaiKar
Originally posted by Darkfox
Question: Why do people think it is so cool to associate darkness with evil? When you look at your shadow do you go: "Oh noes a demon!"?
Fear of the darkness is a deep-rooted emotional response. We are very visual people; we rely a lot on our eyes. When it's dark we can't see nearly as well. When it's dark we're used to being asleep so we're weary and not at our emotional or physical peak.
When is the best time for an ambush? When it's dark, since people won't see you coming until its too late. If you're in the woods, when do people most fear animal attacks? At night, since predators such as wolves are nocturnal and can see far better than humans in dim light. When do people most fear getting mugged? At night, when things are dim and anybody else that is around might not see what's going on.
It isn't much of a stretch to take "I'm afraid of what might be in the dark" to "Things in the dark are probably hostile" all the way to "Anything in the dark is probably evil." It's not cliche - it's the product of thousands of years of human society.
Edit: though I'll agree that light vs dark conflict in RPGs and other stories is played out.[/B]
An ambush can come in light too. Say a bright flash and all the same they ambush you. Such methods were also used.
But that only says what I was stateing, dark in itself isn't evil. I noted that many RPG villains will yell somthing about darkness as if it was some super force of great evil and it gets rather "ugh... this again?"
(multiple genocide and the planned destruction of an entire people)
Sephiroth? That is the same thing. Genocide and destruction of an entire people are the same thing.
yet he is the main character and clearly not a bad person in any right.
And you stated he did multiple genocides and considered that good? O_o
Edit: In the introduction story called Chaos Realm: Blood Genesis the main character's early life starts as a slayer of men called the "Shadowbeast" but is like an uneducated child only being taught. Later though he self converts and because of his horrific past becomes hemophobic, in other words becomes sick or horrified at the sight of blood. He often shows deep regret for his killings even though they happened so long ago and refuseing to take anymore lives.
I don't really see how a person could honestly think killing an entire people is good. They'll know they did wrong but may deny it. Even criminals who are proud of killing people won't say it was good, they knew it was bad but didn't care.
If Adrian is actually good and is smart enough to feel sympathy and all that then he'd have regrets. People have regrets, they may have had little choice but you still don't feel happy about it unless you actually enjoy killing then you really wouldn't care much for a girl. O_o;
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The world was created by three gods. Ragnarok created the rock that is Earth, Valion covered this rock with vegetation, and Finality created a whole mess of creatures to inhabit it..
is it just me or does that seem legend of zeldaish.
Remeber in ocarina of time when the three goddes created earth at the start.
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Originally posted by omegarirue
The world was created by three gods. Ragnarok created the rock that is Earth, Valion covered this rock with vegetation, and Finality created a whole mess of creatures to inhabit it..
is it just me or does that seem legend of zeldaish.
Remeber in ocarina of time when the three goddes created earth at the start.
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then again doesn't your game sound an awful lot like a final fantasy rip off? :x
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No I never said Adrian was happy about doing anything. Probably one of the most unhappy guys in the world... And yes it does sound legend of zeldaish... although I didn't really intend that. But yeah I didn't mean Adrian was all like HAHHAHHAH I kill everyone for no reason and then laugh and talk about how sweet I am! WAY too many games have that character and he seems quite frankly unbelievable to me...
EDIT: Besides I just reread this whole post and noticed in my description the only time the word darkness showed up was in the subtitle. The subtitle does not intend the birth of evil, more so the birth of Delete, god of darkness, who is later in the story the protagonist.... Again not evil. Also the genocide comment got taken the wrong way as well. Genocide is generally taken as a derogatory term as someone purposely killing multiple innocent people. Delete/Adrian's genocide was to clear the planet of clearly uninnocent people not just a mass slaughter, although the in game law doesn't see it that way. I also love *sarcastic* How you guys are giving me helpful advice and constructive criticism instead of fighting amongst yourselves. ^^
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Originally posted by omegarirue
The world was created by three gods. Ragnarok created the rock that is Earth, Valion covered this rock with vegetation, and Finality created a whole mess of creatures to inhabit it..
is it just me or does that seem legend of zeldaish.
Remeber in ocarina of time when the three goddes created earth at the start.
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Is it just me or does it seem a little Catholicish? Maybe even a little Hinduish? Or even Greekish? Maybe Norseish but thats pushing it.
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Greekish? Is I don't even know what you were going with there. ^^ Greekish! I am no longer Atheist! I am now a Greekist!
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Originally posted by Finality
Greekish? Is I don't even know what you were going with there. ^^ Greekish! I am no longer Atheist! I am now a Greekist!
This is an ill joke to accompany ZKX's stalwart joke.
I personally like games where Gods are incoperated, but only when they are actually in the game. Not like LoZ-OoT, where the Gods were only shown in the intro and nothing else.
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Originally posted by Finality
Greekish? Is I don't even know what you were going with there. ^^ Greekish! I am no longer Atheist! I am now a Greekist!
This is an ill joke to accompany ZKX's stalwart joke.
I personally like games where Gods are incoperated, but only when they are actually in the game. Not like LoZ-OoT, where the Gods were only shown in the intro and nothing else.[/B]
That irritated me too. If there even is a God/Goddess, I want to atleast meet them in the game. I always include that in the games I make if they have they're own made up religion.
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Originally posted by Finality
Greekish? Is I don't even know what you were going with there. ^^ Greekish! I am no longer Atheist! I am now a Greekist!
This is an ill joke to accompany ZKX's stalwart joke.
I personally like games where Gods are incoperated, but only when they are actually in the game. Not like LoZ-OoT, where the Gods were only shown in the intro and nothing else.[/B]
I agree also. I never really liked LoZ anyway... but that did annoy me. The gods are important in the story to my game I promise.