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Title: Super Mario Rpg 2
Post by: redwallmax on May 10, 2007, 03:09:59 PM: Alright some of you have seen my requests for battle sprites but this topic is different this is the announcement of my new game.
Super Mario RPG 2. This game isnt rely a sequel but whatever.

This game is going to be different than most Rpgs it will have a similar battle system to Paper Mario that meaning the hp and Mp never reach over 300. This game will also have a friend system similar to star ocean. That meaning if you can get a good enough relationship with an ally then you will be able to use a powerful team attack. an example is Mario and Wario's Fire Fart. Each character will have up to three team attacks to learn with each ally.

Each Character will also have a special world map ability the they will be able to perform. Such as Wario being able to break through walls and waluigi being able to fit through thin walkways.

This game isn't going to be to serious either it will have its moments but will be just the kind of Mario we've all learned to love. i will include some screens please tell me what you think.
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Post by: redwallmax on May 10, 2007, 03:12:35 PM: here are the screens sorry for double post
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Post by: Ben on May 10, 2007, 05:06:03 PM: Looks good, from the battle screens. The graphics are nice and consistent
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Post by: game_maniac on May 10, 2007, 05:08:21 PM: The screens look good, apart from the fact most sprites don't blend in. Mixing Paper Mario with 3d Mario and Mario & Luigi:SS graphics will get you that result I guess.
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Post by: ZeroX5 on May 10, 2007, 07:29:33 PM: Try to use one style.
Use the normale stance of the battlecharset as Faceset or something like this, and try to use the same gfx.
I think Mario and luigi and the graphic of mini bowser are good togehter.

otherwise nice screens :)!
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Post by: redwallmax on May 10, 2007, 07:45:26 PM: Thanks Zero it looks alot better now and here are some new screens of the face sets and also 2 of the characters team abilities
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 10, 2007, 07:55:28 PM: The game looks funny (in a good way)... It makes me want a demo already! DEMO! DEMO! ok. me shutting up now. (Puposly used bad grammer!)

I want some screens of maps... unless... its all battles... but... that would... be weird... ok! Good Luck.
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Post by: redwallmax on May 10, 2007, 08:05:31 PM: ill get some maps up soon but in just working on the system right now but i think the battles are coll enough looking lol
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Post by: redwallmax on May 10, 2007, 08:44:03 PM: Sorry for Double posts but i desided to throw some maps together just to show ya what the game is going to look like hope you like. bare with me there kind of bad.

The first one is a battle outside. the second is in a shop

If you look in the first screen you will see those grates those are the kind of things waluigi will be able to walk through.
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Post by: Archem on May 11, 2007, 12:02:03 AM: :o You broke a series law! Mario spoke!

I'd suggest, for genuinity's sake, that you undo that and get a sub-character from the story to do the talking for him.
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Post by: redwallmax on May 11, 2007, 12:13:03 AM: ummm im pretty sure Mario spoke in Super Mario Rpg but ill undo it anyway. And im thinking about adding a battle demo anyone want one? it will be a little taste of what to expect...and what characters do people want in the demo?

Choices-

Goomba
Luigi
Bowzer
Waluigi
Wario
Mario
Yoshi

let me know and ill put them in it
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Post by: blackskullwarlock on May 11, 2007, 12:18:35 AM: Mario never spoke in SMRPG. When you chose what to say, he simply jumped or nudged or whatever.

Now, the idea would be good if you were to replace everything Mario and use original characters. The screenshots look fuzzy because, has mentionned, mixing multiple styles is a big no-no. My two copper.
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Post by: xJericho on May 11, 2007, 11:37:54 AM: it's right,... mario can't talk, except of:

-it's me mario

and things kinda:

-yaaa
-yoohooo
-yipiieh

ah, and not to forget:

- mamma mia

uhm, I think thats it ^^
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Post by: game_maniac on May 11, 2007, 12:59:50 PM: ^he just basically says one-liners. I agree with everyone, you should either find another character to do the talking or create one yourself.
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Post by: ZeroX5 on May 11, 2007, 04:22:10 PM: Its the same like Ryu from Breath Of Fire 2 Series or Link from Legend Of Zelda O:

You didn't hear them in the games O: only sounds like xJ said
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 11, 2007, 04:38:21 PM: Looks like you're prepared to put some effort into this game. Keep at it and good luck!
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 11, 2007, 07:34:07 PM: I think the town screen looks fine, but the second one is a bit empty. Maybe you could add some stuff for on the floors?
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Post by: xJericho on May 11, 2007, 09:16:45 PM: except that talkin'-thingy, I'd say there's somethin' good in comin'
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Post by: redwallmax on May 12, 2007, 12:03:23 AM: Alright is this better looking?
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Post by: Archem on May 12, 2007, 12:52:00 AM: Yay! Improvement! I now seriously consider this to be worth keeping an eye on.
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 12, 2007, 02:09:50 AM: 2nd map is better. Good job, and good luck.
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Post by: ZeroX5 on May 12, 2007, 07:28:37 AM: Yep the screens look much better now O:

i hope the thing with the bcs/faceset is good O:
I use battle poses für my faceset,too
(thx to xJ at this point O:)

Good luck with your game

edit: ah one single question ôo.. in your first screenshot,... did u use a name of an attack from DBZ for you game?

"Garlic Blast" isn't that the name of an attack from Vegeta ?
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Post by: j_master on May 12, 2007, 11:17:52 AM: Garlic blast is Vegeta's attack.
however I'm guessing its just a coincidence.
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 12, 2007, 02:51:55 PM: More likely its supposed to be a joke move. To make you laugh. Garlic hah!
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Post by: ZeroX5 on May 12, 2007, 07:14:06 PM: hmm... sry i cant laugh about this AFL .....
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Post by: game_maniac on May 12, 2007, 08:42:12 PM: Ver nice changes to those two screens, I believe now that something good may come out of this.
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Post by: redwallmax on May 12, 2007, 10:05:29 PM: All right guys i have been working nonstop since last night and have come up with 61 skills but im quickly running out of ideas right now im stuck on Yoshis Egg Arts attacks i need some help, what kind of attacks would you like Yoshi be able to do ill post some screens of the attacks i already have done

Thanks in advanced
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Post by: Osmose on May 12, 2007, 11:07:17 PM: You could probably get away with stealing some of his more physical attacks from Super Smash Bros.

As for Mario Speaking, he was quite the talker in most Nintendo non-game media - the Super Mario comics that ran in Nintendo Power, the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, etc. In normal Mario games he doesn't need to speak, and in Mario RPG it was normal RPG format to have the main character be silent.

I say go with what you like, don't worry about people complaining about Mario speaking - the point of a fangame is to make a game based on something you like but to make it your own, not making a game just like all the other games in the series.
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Post by: xJericho on May 13, 2007, 07:00:31 AM: whooo, more eggs, .......

uhm, sorry

some physical attacks maybe good,

somethin' like the stomp and so
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Post by: redwallmax on May 15, 2007, 01:07:49 AM: Alright guys ive finished all of my skills now on to items and monsters....yay

but i decided to show you guys some of y favorite skills that ive created theses are all final learned skills you get from side quests enjoy :)
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on May 15, 2007, 02:16:48 AM: Originally Posted by Osmose

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You could probably get away with stealing some of his more physical attacks from Super Smash Bros.

As for Mario Speaking, he was quite the talker in most Nintendo non-game media - the Super Mario comics that ran in Nintendo Power, the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, etc. In normal Mario games he doesn't need to speak, and in Mario RPG it was normal RPG format to have the main character be silent.

I say go with what you like, don't worry about people complaining about Mario speaking - the point of a fangame is to make a game based on something you like but to make it your own, not making a game just like all the other games in the series.

I love you.

My only gripe with this is that some of the screens don't match. The Paper Mario stands out a little too much from the Superstar Mario, and the backgrounds especially mess with my eyes.

Other than that, nice.
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Post by: Vidian on May 15, 2007, 03:35:46 AM: These screens all look pretty cool...
Except the last ones... I thought it was like 14 smaller pictures at first.

Maybe It'll look better in the actual game.
Good job on finding the battle animations. I'm looking forward to playing this.
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Post by: xJericho on May 15, 2007, 05:14:51 AM: alright, that bg is quite confusing
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Post by: j_master on May 15, 2007, 05:24:11 AM: two things!

One: that last screenshot needs a better background!
two: is it just me or are all the enemies giant sized!!
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Post by: Vidian on May 15, 2007, 05:55:11 AM: Quote
Originally posted by j_master
two things!

One: that last screenshot needs a better background!
two: is it just me or are all the enemies giant sized!!

Come to think of it... They are really big aren't they?
And Luigi is standing on the wall...
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Post by: redwallmax on May 15, 2007, 11:08:56 AM: yeah i know the back ground is kind of confusing but ill fix that i just chose a random one to use but it most likely wont make it into the game. And if you dont like the paper mario could you guys help me with finding some monsters that fit th style but you dont have to and thanks so much for the positive words.
Title: Look at this one.
Post by: aboutasoandthis on May 15, 2007, 11:39:09 AM: If you're on dial-up, this site will take a while to load. Don't worry, it's well worth it.

http://www.spriters-resource.com/
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Post by: zuhane1 on May 15, 2007, 12:44:13 PM: Please, if there is any justice in the world whatsoever: Make a 10 minute demo or something, PLEASE! This looks good enough to rival Super Paper Mario and Super Mario Galaxy. It looks like a true professional game! I want to try it out soooo bad, please make a demo! I'll do anything!

Oh, here's some move ideas incase you need them:

Yoshi-
Ground Pound

Swallow (Drain enemy HP)

Graviton Egg (Extremely low chance of hitting but insane damage if it does.)

Baby bowser-
He should have access to a large arsenal of defensive attacks. Like defense boosting moves where he hides in his shell etc.

You should use lots of paper mario items in your game. Have items like fire flowers and stuff, it's a must have. But I seriously urge you, please release a short demo!
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Post by: Vidian on May 15, 2007, 06:17:33 PM: I've been thinking about getting into Battle animations, just because New battle animations have stopped appearing.
I'f you need some Battle animations that zuhane1 has suggested I could use them as practice...
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Post by: Ben on May 15, 2007, 06:58:26 PM: Dont change the paper mario resources. They make it look awesome.

Dont listen to naysayers. Just make your game. Its one of the few fangames Im looking forward to
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on May 15, 2007, 08:40:48 PM: Originally posted by gemini

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Dont change the paper mario resources. They make it look awesome.

But the backgrounds hurt my eyes. :(
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Post by: redwallmax on May 15, 2007, 10:00:19 PM: Hello everyone ive desided to but together a little demo it might be around 15 minutes long and will basically be the begining of the game after the intro because that will take alot more time but i hope people are excited and if anyone has any where to get chip sets it would be very helpful.

Thank You in advance,

Max
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Post by: Vidian on May 16, 2007, 12:44:55 AM: Quote
Originally posted by gemini
Dont change the paper mario resources. They make it look awesome.

Dont listen to naysayers. Just make your game. Its one of the few fangames Im looking forward to

Uhm, I was offering my help.
Not nay-saying...
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Post by: Ben on May 16, 2007, 12:57:54 AM: Dude, every mario game I ever played hurt my eyes.
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Post by: Archem on May 16, 2007, 01:55:34 AM: Really?

Really?
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Post by: zuhane1 on May 16, 2007, 11:47:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by redwallmax
Hello everyone ive desided to but together a little demo it might be around 15 minutes long and will basically be the begining of the game after the intro because that will take alot more time but i hope people are excited and if anyone has any where to get chip sets it would be very helpful.

Thank You in advance,

Max

YAHOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, I wouldn't change the background if I were you. The lovely bright backgrounds and loud uptempo music are what makes or breaks a game. In Mario's case, it makes it.
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Post by: game_maniac on May 16, 2007, 01:35:10 PM: There's no better way to get attention than releasing a demo, though your project is getting quite a fair bit of it. 4 pages is a signal your game is getting popular around here.

I really like the way this is turning out to be. Despite the styles of different games clashing, the screenshots look very good.
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Post by: Ben on May 16, 2007, 05:03:20 PM: opular. heh heh.

I make tons of typos. So I should laugh. But this one made me chuckle for some reason.

It sounds like a disorder type
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Post by: game_maniac on May 16, 2007, 06:41:29 PM: Holy crap, opular? *edits post*

Sounds weird, in a funny way.
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Post by: redwallmax on May 16, 2007, 08:24:51 PM: im glad your all excited about the demo but i still need some of your help. I need a website with some Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga Chipsets or a cartoon forest chip set the faster i get these the faster the demo comes out so lets get this done

Max
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Post by: zuhane1 on May 17, 2007, 07:34:14 AM: You heard him people! Chop! Chop! lol. I'll go and have a look for you 'cos I NEED to play this game.

EDIT: I can only find 2 chipsets :(... And they're the ones on this site. You might have to request for one, or rip it yourself or something. Sorry.
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Post by: danielturipa on May 18, 2007, 12:57:34 PM: well i hope you get in there fast.
so can you please send a website of where your game is.
i really want to play
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Post by: Koopapooper on May 18, 2007, 04:30:40 PM: If you bought the game Super Saga or Partners in Time
Download those ROMs if you bought the games or it will
be Illegal (Who cares lol) you can easly rip a chipset
less then 3hours.

Or use screenshots to rip but it would be harder.
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Post by: thepsynergist on May 18, 2007, 06:33:16 PM: I played Super Mario RPG: Legend of the 7 Stars. It was a fun game. It was for super nes. Check it out.
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Post by: game_maniac on May 18, 2007, 07:02:31 PM: ^Best SNES game ever, alongside Super Mario World, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6.

Anyway, did a quick search and didn't find anything. Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga resources for rpgmaker are hard to find, maybe because they're really big compared to the normal sprites used.
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Post by: redwallmax on May 20, 2007, 07:07:54 PM: Alright Everyone i have made a small website for my game you can find it here

redwallmax.tripod.com

it has some nice info as well as when my demo is going to be released hope people are excited
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 20, 2007, 07:37:57 PM: June 1st!!!! Yay!
I think its nice you put that charas thing at the bottom of the screenshots page. Good Luck.
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Post by: Koopapooper on May 21, 2007, 05:10:00 PM: Tho the game looks quite good...
You may want to spell check and work on the site.
Plus the Tips and cheats thing.

Good luck on the game!
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 21, 2007, 07:01:57 PM: why would add tips and cheats if the demo isn't even out? *Looks at koopapooper expectantly for an answer*
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Post by: redwallmax on May 21, 2007, 07:30:59 PM: alright guys i have a quick question for all of you.

at the present moment my demo is due out June 1st but the way im ending it at the present moment would leave all of us at a pretty big cliff hanger. So my question is would you like me to leave it at the cliff hanger or tie up some of the lose ends but push the release date about im guessing 10 days further?

thanks for your opinions
Max
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on May 21, 2007, 10:27:51 PM: Cliffhanger. It will make us want more. Thats what cliffhangers are for. Go for it. Plus I want to hear the music you're using. I'm picky with music.
Plus, you would have finally made it to the demo stage! Yay! Everybody clap your hands! Yay!
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Post by: redwallmax on May 21, 2007, 11:26:26 PM: well im in the process of playing through mario and luigi super star saga and riping music from there so thats what i will be using
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Post by: zuhane1 on June 01, 2007, 11:37:49 AM: It's June 1st, where's the demo? :(
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Post by: game_maniac on June 01, 2007, 04:41:47 PM: Leave it as a cliffhanger. It'll help people remember your project when/if you release the final version. To me, there's nothing better to get people anxious than a good ol' cliffhanger.
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Post by: redwallmax on June 03, 2007, 03:02:25 AM: hello all June 1st was to be the day but because of life and the amount of time it takes to Make a map the game is delayed most likely near the 15th but im guessing sooner sorry for the delay

thanks for your understanding

Max
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Post by: Archem on June 03, 2007, 03:35:22 AM: I'm cool with that, so long as it actually sees the light of day.
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Post by: zuhane1 on June 03, 2007, 07:57:27 AM: Eeeek! It's like waiting for Nintendo to bring out a new game. They set it back and back but in the end it's really good.
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Post by: game_maniac on June 03, 2007, 09:12:01 AM: I understand, don't worry there's no pressure, as long as the demo gets released.
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Post by: redwallmax on June 03, 2007, 05:41:39 PM: dont anybody worry im not going to let this one die and that is a promise

Max
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Post by: Archem on June 03, 2007, 05:51:49 PM: I'll hold you to that one.
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Post by: redwallmax on June 06, 2007, 08:07:11 PM: http://www.badongo.com/file/3332995

here we are the demo much smaller than i intended but its something please tell me if the game is worth continuing im starting to loose interest so please help me out all criticisim is welcomed thank you and remember this is my first game to ever reach this stage and i tried my best

Max
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Post by: game_maniac on June 06, 2007, 11:10:06 PM: Gonna download it right now, I'll post a critic either tonight or tomorrow.

Edit: Dammit! I tell ya, it's like every single file hosting site out there is against me tonight. Must be full moon or something.

After 15 seconds of the typical waiting period designed to make me feel like clicking that Paypal button (ha, as if), it just takes me to a screen that says "Please Wait, Loading" but it's been stuck like that for minutes.

WHY MUST YOU TAUNT ME WITH YOUR FAKE PROMISES OF LOADING-NESS, ONLY TO LEAVE ME WITH NOTHING BUT AN EMPTY PROMISE AND CRUSHED DREAMS ?!
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 07, 2007, 12:31:54 AM: It said I was downloading an RPG_RT file. It was less than 1 Megabyte in size.

Are you sure this is your game? My chipsets especially use at least 1 each. Shouldn't your game's filesize be at least 6 or something because of all your graphics?
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Post by: Bluhman on June 07, 2007, 12:34:29 AM: You need to upload more than just the EXE file. That's just the executable that puts together everything around it into the game you playing. In order for people to play the game, You need to zip all the stuff around it into a folder along with the RPG_RT, and then upload it. Then people can play your game.
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Post by: redwallmax on June 07, 2007, 01:25:09 AM: http://www.badongo.com/file/3334960

here we go this one works i tried it and its only like 5 min so hope you like it

Max
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Post by: aboutasoandthis on June 07, 2007, 01:50:35 AM: You really need to reprogram this as this is virturally unplayable.
-I had to manually put in a Title Screen, a Game Over, and a System Set because you are missing them.
-After the message showed up, a blank, pink screen was the only thing left. I had to manually edit your programming to continue.
-Even with the manual changes, it teleported me right back to the main screen.
-Even if it was just one message, it had grammar mistakes.

You really should review everything before releasing a download like this. This just says rushed and desperate.

Wait till all of your programming is completely finished. You have a whole summer vacation ahead of you. To make sure something like this doesn't, get a beta-tester for second opinions.

Take this as a learning experience okay? :)
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Post by: zuhane1 on June 07, 2007, 08:00:22 AM: Jesus christ! It's a horribel bloody mess, not a single file can be accessed and the maps are in the wrong section in the game. Remember, we don't have your customised RTP in our computers!
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Post by: game_maniac on June 07, 2007, 07:47:38 PM: I'm gonna forgive you for the sorry state this in, because I assume this is the first game you release to public. But next time, make sure you get someone to help you with testing, to avoid errors like this.
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Post by: redwallmax on August 22, 2007, 09:09:29 PM: Hello all im back and i havent stopped working on this title just to let everyone know im pretty sure i fixed the demo and im going to give a new link to it it isnt any bigger from when the first post but it should be playable please tell me how to fix this if it does not work and its good to be back,,,

thanks all,
max

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/69a719cf23_0.91MB
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 22, 2007, 10:54:15 PM: Yay. I didn't test the last one.
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Post by: Alba Garcia Clerigues on August 23, 2007, 09:12:26 AM: I can not play this game, because this download link has got only an executable and I need the whole demo.
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Post by: A Forgotten Legend on August 23, 2007, 11:42:16 AM: Same here.

You need to include everything. (Do not include the RTP though!)