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TESTING & WELCOME BOARD => Test & welcome board => Topic started by: Revolution911 on July 30, 2007, 10:59:22 PM
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Alright homiez
S'been rad....I guess.
We laughed, we cried.
Some of you watched me go from ghey 13 year old to the pack of awesome you see before you. Really the only thing keeping me from leaving in the first place was because I felt attached since it was my first forum and whatnot, BUT I SHALL MAKE MY LEAVE EITHER WAY.
In a way I think MrMister was right when he left. I'm not gunna be all..FUQ U GUYS I H8 U UR BEHIND THE TIMES and ****, but lets face it, this community isn't really...the most updated of the internet. Kinda corny, really. We barely have a top admin anymore. Sure we got Razor and Fagmose(u noe i luv u ozzy :) ) but really, the site has gone off track BY A MILE. At this point, it shouldn't even be an rpg making site because no one but the new members who quit in a day really care about it anymore. But hey w/e floats your e-boat.
So yeah. I'm sure Kijuki and a few others who just LOVED me are gunna be so sad to see me go :( BUT I MUST
A couple suggestions...GET SOME BETTER SMILEYS, STOP SAYING PWNED/OWNED, And remember kids, using !!!11oneeleven11!1 instead of !!!!!!! stopped being funny a year ago. The list goes on, but it doesn't matter. If you ever see me on another forum, DROP A HOMEBOY A PM. I'll probably be using the name Decepticon. Or a variation of the word. Cause ya know, MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE. And if anyone cares enough, I still use the same msn email.
peace out homies :flower: <---The coolest smiley this site has EVER had. Yet no one uses it.
:frag:
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE :frag: :para:
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...do you even look in the games section? there are more than 5 current projects in the works, and look promising. oh well, if you wanna leave, then bye.
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I'm still making my game...plus I wuv u... don't leave me alone... :(
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Oh, how sad. Another leavey-person....
Although, if you're going to leave a forum simply because it isn't up on the internet trends.... uhmm.... have fun looking for a place where everyone does.
As is,
OMGZ UR L34VIN 4 R34LZ!!!!oneeleven11!!!!11!!!! I GONNA PWN U, KK?!!!!!
...so there. Have fun out in the real world, man.
And... there are some active games, maybe not from the senior members, but not all from one-day losers!
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Internet trends my ***. I dont need a forum that goes crazy for that. That'd be worse. I just want a forum with a better "energy" than this one. One where almost all the members really have a specific energy to them. Trust me, I go to a bunch of em. Its not such a far fetched concept.
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Bitch please, you gotta at least give 3.0 a try. When it gets here.
This year.
!!!
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lol I love it when people think I'll be glad when someone I "disliked" leaves. As if the person mattered.
I'll not be better off today than I was yesterday. You made no Significant impact in my life, dont give so much credit to yourself.
Then again I don't know why you say this, you'll be back anyway, despite how many lazerz get charged and how many pew pew pews you hear, or how many 111!!!!11!!!!!!!11!111 are typed.
Edited to lessen margin of error.
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:(
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Sigh. Charas really is on the way out.
Sorry to see you go, buddy. See you around.
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Bye Rev.
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Peace is overrated... Not really but anyway.
It's getting harder and harder to see people go, ecspecially when they've been around longer than myself.
But have a blast when you are gone, we will treasure the memories as the date on the topic increases in the wait for kicks.
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BYE DUDE! :(
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See ya round. Charas is still cool though. It the people that make it for me, not the games or whatever.
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Whatever, dude.
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Rev...I used to think you sucked a lot. I'm kind of sad to see you go now though...you're good stuff kid.
I hope you pop in for 3.0
Peace dude.
Also: one of the smileys is pretty good if you ask me....this plight dude i know made it. represent :Plight: :Plight: :Plight:
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Yo, peace, etc. Keep on keepin on muthafucka.
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Holy **** that was alot of typos.
No one notices this?
"some of you watched you older members be go from ghey 13 year old?"
What the hell is wrong with you people! You understood that? Jesus Christ. I need to proof read my **** from now own. Anyway just came back to edit that and check responses. Cool stuff I must say.
KIJUKI Y U SO PRETENTIOUS N TAKE THINGS SERIOUSLY ALL DA TIME? y u wan fight? y u no wan 2 luv?
Gemini made me feel like a school girl as I giggled in my chair, watching the hearts come from my head.
Maybe I'll check in for 3.0, but that ****'s been in development for DECADES.
Some of you are confused. Im not leaving cause no gaemz, I'm leaving cause (IN MY PERSONAL OPINION) many members of the COMMUNITY are...well...just lame. Sometimes annoying to watch. I'll let you decide amongst yourselves who I thought was lame and who wasn't, but who really cares? NOT ME N' NOT YOU.
Thanks to the peeps who SHOWED SUM LUV.
I'll be watching the topic till it dies off so, Peace girls and boys.
BTW, ALWAYS REMEMBER, CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, A SARCASM MARKER, AND AN AWESOME MARKER FOR WHEN YOUR ALL SUPER ACTION CRAZY INSANE FALCON PAONCH POSTING MOOD.
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We had about a month of ideas, then like a month of waiting until the new server, and then two months of one very unthanked person's constant work.
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Rev, you're kind of an idiot. A very self centered, annoying idiot. That is all.
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3.0 is the same community
do you guys understand that
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Originally posted by MrMister
3.0 is the same community
do you guys understand that
I have been looking for those exact words for quite some time.
Truest thing ever.
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Originally posted by Dragonium
Originally posted by MrMister
3.0 is the same community
do you guys understand that
I have been looking for those exact words for quite some time.
Truest thing ever.[/B]
Always open to suggestions in case anyone thinks they know of a better thing to do.
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become a street fighter alpha website
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There's nothing wrong with the community. You just don't like it because the people in it aren't up to your standards. They don't give you the kicks you're lookin' for so they're gei. :dry:
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He did have his points here and there though...
meh...
it's like deleting a myspace, he'll be back. If not, by another name!
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All is proceeding as I have foreseen *cackle*
Maybe I should become a lame Kijuki-like raven that only pops up when Charas is going through bad times to point and yell "I TOLD YOU SO! SEE!!! THE MODS ARE EVIL PEOPLE!"
On second though, no.
No worries Rev, I've had roughly the same opinion as you for the past half a year now.
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If you want to complain so much, why don't you get off your *** and do something about it?
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My standards aren't high for people. It's just, over the years of being here, I've seen the community go to ****.
Its as simple as that. I remember coming here to GENUINELY INTERESTING FOLK. Not some anime-japaneseloving-weeaboo faggots. Not some metalhead-dragonforce bullshit. Not some average middle-schooler who thinks he stands out because he can play a video game. Really thats all there is in this community.
I'm sick of coming here to see 10 members online and not recognizing anything significant about them besides their name. If it weren't for your avatars I wouldn't be able to tell most of you guys apart. And its not like we're getting interesting new members by the second, either. We're getting the same **** we already have, over and over again. You guys have GOT TO DO SOMETHING NEW WITH 3.0. Change the focus of the site. GET SOMETHING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE BETTER THAN RPG MAKING DOES. Make it a video games site or something. I know some of you know exactly what I mean.
Do something besides complain? As if I complained about it before this thread, but please, tell me, like what. Quit? OH WAIT. :flower:
hai saikar hou r u luv puppt :)
hai guys lok its mrmr
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Originally Posted by Revolution911
Make it a video games site or something.
Make the site. Can't do it can you?
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Are you leaving or not? Stop fence-sitting, we're at war!
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Hey! Rev just summed up the internet. All three points seem accurate.... unless you count celeb gossip sites.
I know I haven't been here long... but I can't see how Charas is any more or less outstanding than any other forum on the same topic... or even other ones. Maybe it's just that instead of growing up and sticking around, people leave and we get more of the middle-school crowd. Hmm.
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Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Revolution911
Make it a video games site or something.
Make the site. Can't do it can you? [/B]
You miss my point ENTIRELY. Thats like me saying:
MAN, I SURE DO HATE COKE. THE TASTE IS BLAND AND ISN'T AS LIVELY AS PEPSI IS.
And then you say:
WELL WHY DON'T YOU MAKE YOU'RE OWN THEN HUH?
Why the **** would I make my own when I can just go get a can of Pepsi, THAT ALREADY HAS THAT EXUBERATING FLAVOR. OR GET A DR.PEPPER, WITH ITS 23 DIFFERENT FLAVORS. OR MAYBE I'M IN THE MOOD FOR A SPRITE. HOW ABOUT A CREAM SODA, OR A ROOT BEER. Just anything but coke, because that **** is lame.
You see what I'm getting at? There are plenty of forums with a surplus of INTERESTING MEMBERS. I go to many of them already. Charas USED TO BE ONE OF THOSE FORUMS. Recently it hasn't been, which is why I'm leaving it. I'm not asking for a new site. Os asked for suggestions, I gave one.
YES I AM LEAVING, ARCH. I'm just stubborn. :flower:
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Good to hear it!
I'm not being an ***, I'm just a guy that hates people who don't follow through on an announced plan.
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Definition: Revolution911 --
typical immature person, quitting because he's lost interest and wants to move onto the next thing to get bored of.
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Originally posted by carrionmarksman
Definition: Revolution911 --
typical immature person, quitting because he's lost interest and wants to move onto the next thing to get bored of.
Sir, as new as you are to this community, I can't help but notice how dang correct you are.
Edit: I'm sorry about that previous comment. I'd just like to post to say what a breath of fresh air Revolution 911 was to our community for his utter ingenuity and ... stuff, and he will be dearly missed...
Er.. Maybe.
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Originally posted by Revolution911
YES I AM LEAVING, ARCH. I'm just stubborn. :flower:
Stop saying that you will leave and leave already.
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Originally posted by Revolution911
Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
Originally Posted by Revolution911
Make it a video games site or something.
Make the site. Can't do it can you? [/B]
You miss my point ENTIRELY. Thats like me saying:
MAN, I SURE DO HATE COKE. THE TASTE IS BLAND AND ISN'T AS LIVELY AS PEPSI IS.
And then you say:
WELL WHY DON'T YOU MAKE YOU'RE OWN THEN HUH?
Why the **** would I make my own when I can just go get a can of Pepsi, THAT ALREADY HAS THAT EXUBERATING FLAVOR. OR GET A DR.PEPPER, WITH ITS 23 DIFFERENT FLAVORS. OR MAYBE I'M IN THE MOOD FOR A SPRITE. HOW ABOUT A CREAM SODA, OR A ROOT BEER. Just anything but coke, because that **** is lame.
You see what I'm getting at? There are plenty of forums with a surplus of INTERESTING MEMBERS. I go to many of them already. Charas USED TO BE ONE OF THOSE FORUMS. Recently it hasn't been, which is why I'm leaving it. I'm not asking for a new site. Os asked for suggestions, I gave one.
YES I AM LEAVING, ARCH. I'm just stubborn. :flower: [/B]
You could spot the coke you know.
Don't do drugs kids. :badboy:
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Complaining is how I got access to the code! :)
*goes back to staring at the generators code attempted to figure out what the hell it means*
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Originally posted by carrionmarksman
Definition: Revolution911 --
typical immature person, quitting because he's lost interest and wants to move onto the next thing to get bored of.
what the **** is this?
if this was a good community this douchebag would be banned on the spot
Osmose
Complaining is how I got access to the code!
*goes back to staring at the generators code attempted to figure out what the hell it means*
oh god italians
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lol srry that i dun take OWNS nor 111!!!11!11 very serious. For if I did I would've been already banned.
O WAIT
YOU ******* MODS ARE ******* EVIL!
****, almost forgot to that this month.
SUCCESS!
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What the ****? Good community? How are we a bad community? How the **** is this a bad community? 'Cuz we don't entertain you enough anymore? 'Cuz you think that guy should get banned for stating his opinion? What the **** kinda bullshit is that? And attacking us on the things we enjoy?
Its as simple as that. I remember coming here to GENUINELY INTERESTING FOLK. Not some anime-japaneseloving-weeaboo faggots. Not some metalhead-dragonforce ********. Not some average middle-schooler who thinks he stands out because he can play a video game. Really thats all there is in this community.
When you came here, you were an average newb middle schooler. So stop being a hypocrite and hating 'cuz things aren't the way they were when Charas started. Yeah, and **** was better with Clinton. :dry:
Get over it, you either like the change or you don't. Stop making such a big deal out of this as if this new generation ruined your amazing, oh so awesome number one forum. This forum is still awesome, just in a different way you can't appreciate.
So take your "RULEZ OF TEH INTERWEB" and shove it.
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Originally posted by drenrin2120
What the ****? Good community? How are we a bad community? How the **** is this a bad community? 'Cuz we don't entertain you enough anymore? 'Cuz you think that guy should get banned for stating his opinion? What the **** kinda bullshit is that? And attacking us on the things we enjoy?
The moderation team is retarded and takes itself way too seriously, the members are all socially inept, and on top of that they don't know how to make a decent RPG Maker game.
But no, I'm sure new forum code will solve all of that. :|
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I TOLD YOU THE ******* MODS WERE ******* EVIL!
LOL
Sai speaks the truth; this is lame.
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Originally posted by MrMister
The moderation team is retarded and takes itself way too seriously, the members are all socially inept, and on top of that they don't know how to make a decent RPG Maker game.
But no, I'm sure new forum code will solve all of that. :|
The logic is that, worst case scenario, the new forum code will let you whine about it even FASTER. (Well, the real object is that more people will make games if they have the chance of being featured on the front page. Or something. It kinda got lost when that giant list got thrown in my lap and I realized what I had gotten myself into.)
Also: You're probably right with that seriously part - it's effort to not lock this thread, but I'm trying. >_<
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I really don't talk to anyone outside of charas, except for maybe a few people. So maybe there's outside reasons you hate the mod team so much, but as far as I can tell, I don't see them throwing their weight around or making any unjust and unfair decisions. And as for the community being socially inept and not being able to make a good RPGMaker game, that's all opinion. But what about yourself? If we suck so bad at making games, where's your epic RPG? I mean, I know there hasn't been any good complete games out of charas and it's all been demos, but there are games in the works.
The forum code is something Charas doesn't exactly need, but it's an attempt to fix all the bugs and whatnot and update the interface.
But none of that really matters. My real point is if you hate what Charas has become or is becoming, fine, but don't sit there and blame us for that because you think we're lame, if you don't like the community, well that's your problem.
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THIS IS... CHA-RAAAS!
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Originally posted by Osmose
Originally posted by MrMister
The moderation team is retarded and takes itself way too seriously, the members are all socially inept, and on top of that they don't know how to make a decent RPG Maker game.
But no, I'm sure new forum code will solve all of that. :|
The logic is that, worst case scenario, the new forum code will let you whine about it even FASTER. (Well, the real object is that more people will make games if they have the chance of being featured on the front page. Or something. It kinda got lost when that giant list got thrown in my lap and I realized what I had gotten myself into.)
Also: You're probably right with that seriously part - it's effort to not lock this thread, but I'm trying. >_<[/B]
I don't plan on whining about it again
OP Some guy
I really don't talk to anyone outside of charas, except for maybe a few people. So maybe there's outside reasons you hate the mod team so much, but as far as I can tell, I don't see them throwing their weight around or making any unjust and unfair decisions. And as for the community being socially inept and not being able to make a good RPGMaker game, that's all opinion. But what about yourself? If we suck so bad at making games, where's your epic RPG? I mean, I know there hasn't been any good complete games out of charas and it's all been demos, but there are games in the works.
The forum code is something Charas doesn't exactly need, but it's an attempt to fix all the bugs and whatnot and update the interface.
But none of that really matters. My real point is if you hate what Charas has become or is becoming, fine, but don't sit there and blame us for that because you think we're lame, if you don't like the community, well that's your problem.
http://dildrox.fortsigma.net
I don't like rpgs but there's my epic game with rpg elements
and don't defend this

you know what this is
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-_- whoooo...
I forgot how much better you were than me. :|
What was I thinking! Whoops!
*leaves... sleeps...*
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I see white outline. You lose.
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Originally posted by Osmose
I see white outline. You lose.
are you talking about one of my screenshots or the one in my post
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The best part about all this is that it cannot be, in any way, traced to being my fault.
I never knew how awesome of a feeling that was until I resigned as admin. :heart:
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Originally posted by SaiKar
The best part about all this is that it cannot be, in any way, traced to being my fault.
I never knew how awesome of a feeling that was until I resigned as admin. :heart:
it's your fault because you made the moderation team into some serious thing that it's not supposed to be
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/ 0
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Originally posted by MrMister
Originally posted by SaiKar
The best part about all this is that it cannot be, in any way, traced to being my fault.
I never knew how awesome of a feeling that was until I resigned as admin. :heart:
it's your fault because you made the moderation team into some serious thing that it's not supposed to be[/B]
You're just bitter that they fired you almost immediately after I retired. :p
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
/ 0
Spam in unmod, that's what it's there for.
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THAT is not the case. Most of the things Rev mentioned are somnly (sp) true. However, leaving the site for such things is quite... hmmm... stupid. SPECIALLY, when you have contributed a lot of that stupidity.
Therefore: / 0
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Originally posted by SaiKar
Originally posted by MrMister
Originally posted by SaiKar
The best part about all this is that it cannot be, in any way, traced to being my fault.
I never knew how awesome of a feeling that was until I resigned as admin. :heart:
it's your fault because you made the moderation team into some serious thing that it's not supposed to be[/B]
You're just bitter that they fired you almost immediately after I retired. :p [/B]
dont tell fuckin lies i quit in my leaving post
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lol oh wow this has so turned out into something that it was not meant too.
I like it!
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
lol oh wow this has so turned out into something that it was not meant too.
I like it!
no ones reading your posts
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You prove yourself wrong.
Every body is. As in proving themselves wrong
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Yes, Kijuki, we all know you hate Rev. But he hates you.
So that balances everything out.
Originally posted by MrMister
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
lol oh wow this has so turned out into something that it was not meant too.
I like it!
no ones reading your posts[/B]
Why did you leave?
Rhetorical question.
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Originally posted by Razor
Yes, Kijuki, we all know you hate Rev. But he hates you.
So that balances everything out.
This is where you utterly fail.
What signs of hatred. As in hate (1 a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b : extreme dislike or antipathy) has this thread shown? Not much. But your visual perspective is probably more extreme than mine.
I dont know if he hates me. Nah, I actually dont think he does. He just thinks I am a retarded dumb ****.
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
lol I love it when people think I'll be glad when someone I "disliked" leaves. As if the person mattered.
I'll not be better off today than I was yesterday. You made no Significant impact in my life, dont give so much credit to yourself.
Then again I don't know why you say this, you'll be back anyway, despite how many lazerz get charged and how many pew pew pews you hear, or how many 111!!!!11!!!!!!!11!111 are typed.
Edited to lessen margin of error.
This is the part where you need to tell everyone you don't care.
Because you need to make sure Rev didn't get the last word.
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Originally posted by Razor
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
lol I love it when people think I'll be glad when someone I "disliked" leaves. As if the person mattered.
I'll not be better off today than I was yesterday. You made no Significant impact in my life, dont give so much credit to yourself.
Then again I don't know why you say this, you'll be back anyway, despite how many lazerz get charged and how many pew pew pews you hear, or how many 111!!!!11!!!!!!!11!111 are typed.
Edited to lessen margin of error.
This is the part where you need to tell everyone you don't care.
Because you need to make sure Rev didn't get the last word.[/B]
he's going to a party at the gym
too busy to post
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Hmm, rly? SO he's still here? And can still make the last word?
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To: the moderator / administrator staff of Charas
I'm still not sure about Kijuki's position as a site member, and am kind of annoyed the mods never had the guts to clarify it. Technically Kijuki is a banned member, and the past has shown that any banned member that creates a dual account to attempt to get around the ban can be banned again instantly. But the mods obviously didn't ban HTML, yet they didn't unban Kijuki, and I wonder what's up with that.
Though, to be honest, they probably found themselves disagreeing with some of my policies to the point where they decided inaction was better than any action that could go horribly wrong, and so they're sitting here ignoring you like they ignore every other problem. Not so much you Razor, but hello to Moose on that one. Consider it a fair turn for you saying that my reign as admin was poor. You're doing worse. :D How are those attempts to revive the site going? You fire any inactive mods lately? Think of a contest or something that could stimulate interest? Didn't think so. "Peace" you claim and peace Charas has, but peace has a deadly cousin for an internet community - boredom.
Lord I hate falling into the same boat as Kijuki on the "Charas is dying!" issue, but it is. Charas 3.0 will be the same problems with a new interface. And yes Moose is working hard, but, despite his estimates, it seems to me it is still weeks or months away, which is weeks or months of relative inaction and putting off problems until some sort of mystical new interface magically solves them.
Which it won't. Because people like Rev are leaving. Even though he hasn't really left, just like Kijuki and MrMister are still hovering, but that crowd is hardly the backbone of a good community. And that's what this really is about - a good community. Charas isn't a dead community right now, but it's declining. Like in the old days, the mods have lost a lot of respect - people listen, occasionally, out of fear of atuority rather than out of friendship and faith in good judgement.
And while Charas has a purpose - that whole RPGMaker thing - it sucks pretty hard at it so people just go to better sites. And the software itself isn't getting any younger. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before there is a better RPG making tool, if there isn't one already. There's nothing you can do about any of that except try to strengthen the community, which nobody is showing any signs of actually doing.
The mods will probably consider this sort of unfair, which maybe it is. You disagreed with some of my policies and were ignored; I won't complain about similar treatment. But you're the ones that were eyeing my job for a year or more, so maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and try to do less cleaning of threads like this and more proactive encoruagement of growth out there in All of All and Requests and Games were you still have a shot at making a difference.
Just a thought.
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WIthout retaliating yet; I am utterly confused by your post :S
I have no idea who you are talking to at some parts.
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Grammer and late-night ranting are not allies.
The post has hopefully been suitable modified.
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Originally posted by SaiKar
You're doing worse.
Hardly. As bad, maybe, but not worse.
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I concur, i was falling asleep while reading it, cause ia m quite tired.
Retaliation: HTML was built before dual account laws, before i was banned, before razor (that one was for lols). HTML was not initally built to be a double account, it kinda just turned that way then used to hide myself while testing forum's loopholes. Razor gave me the idea to come back to charas as HTML. I thought all my accounts were banned (since that was your judgement), but he said this one wasnt. I have actually followed rules up straight, even when i was bonk a while ago, I followed the bonk's order w/o questioning it.
But in return you are right. In reality, i was expecting to get banned 10 days i got active on HTML for same issue, but I wasn't. (Not that I want to get banned again)
With Osmose thinking I am an idiot though I dont think I'll be far from that reality.
I am either agreeing with the rest or just nodding since the problem stated above.
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
HTML was not initally built to be a double account, it kinda just turned that way then used to hide myself while testing forum's loopholes. Razor gave me the idea to come back to charas as HTML.
So this is Razor's fault.
You see, I FUCKIN' knew it.
Sai is right, get some stuff happening here, or elect new mods who will see the opportunity as a privelege to be made the most of, not a chore to be done in a half-assed manner.
Yeah, I said it. New mods. To anyone who responds to this idea negatively: screw you.
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Originally posted by Dragonium
Yeah, I said it. New mods. To anyone who responds to this idea negatively: screw you.
:Plight: You know, for bringing that up, I wish I could put down those two fingers and up with the middle finger. J/K
The way I see it, this thread is exactly how I remember charas.
Hot discussions, people constantly ranting the mods for doing a bad job, somebody leaves ect.
Isn't that how it's always been?
3.0 will probably not bring much of change on that fact, but it sure will be cool.
And I think, Osmose deserves more credit for trying so hard.
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Originally posted by SaiKar
To: the moderator / administrator staff of Charas
I'm still not sure about Kijuki's position as a site member, and am kind of annoyed the mods never had the guts to clarify it. Technically Kijuki is a banned member, and the past has shown that any banned member that creates a dual account to attempt to get around the ban can be banned again instantly. But the mods obviously didn't ban HTML, yet they didn't unban Kijuki, and I wonder what's up with that.
Initially the plan was to ban him, but decided to let him use HTML for awhile and see if he could behave himself (And he's not doing a very good job of that and is close to being banned again, but we're merciful masters. :P). The idea is that in the old days Alex saw bans as a last resort - we didn't have have an IP ban. The site has a history of forgiving most - did you ban Kairou when he showed up as Lightning-something?
Though, to be honest, they probably found themselves disagreeing with some of my policies to the point where they decided inaction was better than any action that could go horribly wrong, and so they're sitting here ignoring you like they ignore every other problem. Not so much you Razor, but hello to Moose on that one. Consider it a fair turn for you saying that my reign as admin was poor. You're doing worse. :D How are those attempts to revive the site going? You fire any inactive mods lately? Think of a contest or something that could stimulate interest? Didn't think so. "Peace" you claim and peace Charas has, but peace has a deadly cousin for an internet community - boredom.
I'd feel a little better if you didn't seem to be ranting out of spite because, oh noes, I was offended when you told me that you encouraged trouble such as Raffles because you thought it would be good for activity. You may claim that it did indeed raise activity, but I claim that it was a stupid thing to do.
I concede that we've been bad at firing inactive mods and coming up with stuff to spur activity. Part of it is because I'm so preoccupied with 3.0 when perhaps I should focus more on stuff that takes immediate effect. :o
Lord I hate falling into the same boat as Kijuki on the "Charas is dying!" issue, but it is. Charas 3.0 will be the same problems with a new interface. And yes Moose is working hard, but, despite his estimates, it seems to me it is still weeks or months away, which is weeks or months of relative inaction and putting off problems until some sort of mystical new interface magically solves them.
The plan was not just to offer new stuff to people, but to encourage them to use it. Having RMXP generators allows us to encourage RMXP resources - perhaps a new Charas Resource Contest? Winners would be listed on the main site as usual as well as getting nifty awards on their post-side profile (Which everyone enjoys, don't lie :P).
Or perhaps we'll use the new Games section to coordinate game days where everyone showcases the best they have in a game, and encourages them to have a good demo ready. Again, awards could be handed out as incentive, as well as other rewards that we can think of - code access gives us a lot more options than we have now. I more than anyone feel the pain of taking so long - it's my fault for not having the skill to work faster.
Which it won't. Because people like Rev are leaving. Even though he hasn't really left, just like Kijuki and MrMister are still hovering, but that crowd is hardly the backbone of a good community. And that's what this really is about - a good community. Charas isn't a dead community right now, but it's declining. Like in the old days, the mods have lost a lot of respect - people listen, occasionally, out of fear of atuority rather than out of friendship and faith in good judgement.
I'm sure you ranting about how you hate us is really going to help people give us the respect we need. -_-
And while Charas has a purpose - that whole RPGMaker thing - it sucks pretty hard at it so people just go to better sites. And the software itself isn't getting any younger. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before there is a better RPG making tool, if there isn't one already. There's nothing you can do about any of that except try to strengthen the community, which nobody is showing any signs of actually doing.
Perhaps we'll expand to other makers. The generators certainly can handle other sprite layouts. The CR can handle new sections (In the new system :P). It's a thought that could use some serious consideration. As for strengthening the community, I'm at a loss for an idea that doesn't involve creating trouble for people to "unite" against.
The mods will probably consider this sort of unfair, which maybe it is. You disagreed with some of my policies and were ignored; I won't complain about similar treatment. But you're the ones that were eyeing my job for a year or more, so maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and try to do less cleaning of threads like this and more proactive encoruagement of growth out there in All of All and Requests and Games were you still have a shot at making a difference.
I think it's unfair that you claim that what we've done so far is already as bad as the worst you've ever done. You were gone from the site entirely for longer than me and Razor have been admins at all. As I've mentioned before, you resorted to making problems that, admittedly, you didn't start, a big deal to garner some sort of sense of "community" from the people who side with you. That's the wrong way to go about things.
I respect you. I think you're a smart person. I hope that you don't hate me over this :P.
But I used to think you were an okay admin until you told me about the aforementioned encouragement. If it was something obvious that I should've noticed and I didn't, sorry I didn't speak out about it sooner, but I just disagree with that too much. If thinking that's wrong is calling your reign crappy, then yes, I think your reign was crappy. If that is part of the reason why you hate Charas, I'm sorry that you carry a grudge like.
I would appreciate you giving suggestions and such in a more respectful manner than bashing the site publicly just to get an ear. You've mentioned some of these things before to my in private, but saying, "You need to help the site," without giving a suggestion doesn't really help me - I KNOW I have to help the site. My problem is coming up with ideas. I can't speak for Razor since I'm not him, but I assume he's having the same problem as myself.
Why don't you try talking to us directly instead of "being ignored" and then whining about it on the forum? Anyone who wants to give their input has ALWAYS been welcome to give them to me or Razor or any staff member who can pass them up the line.
Wall of text countered w/ Great Wall of Text.
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There's always been a lack of ideas for new things to do within the community. It is not as though all of a sudden we have no brilliant ideas left; we never had any brilliant ideas to start with. Certainly Charas 3.0 is the priority, but we cannot hide behind our supposedly new lack of ideas and hope everything clears up.
You must admit, Charas is a very poor social board. And you must also admit that people will eventually lose interest in RPG Maker. So if they're not staying for the RPG Maker aspect of the community, and the social aspect is completely hopeless, what do people have to stay for?
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Mr. Mister - Claims to have leaved but still posts here.
Rev. - Mr.Mr N° 2
Sai'Kar - Obviously regretful of not being an Admin animore.
Kijuki - ...I hadn't even noticed you're here, yes. I'd prefer you to be banned, because, really, that's only the fair thing to do.
Osmose - Tries to build a better Charas, through the wrong way. Also has engaged Sai'Kar in a pseudo-fight.
Razor - Kijuki's accomplice. Seriously.
Grandy - Really pissed off of how people can't just get along. Won't add "anymore" to the end of the previous sentence because that's how Charas has aways been.
Lord Raffles & friends - Reading this thread and laughing their asses off because, really, that's pretty much everything they said.
Now, let me tell something:
This forum, is full of boring. And why? Because. EVERYONE. FUCKING. WANTS. RPGMAKER.
How so? When was the last time any project that was not RPG-Maker related ever appeared? Remember the good old sprite comics that Osmose did? And the midi and signature threads, where have they gone? Charas Pub is near closing down because nobody who really cares post there anymore, and if they do, it's usually an one-liner kinda post.
The last thing Charas need is RPG Maker. We have the generators, and the games part of the forum, but that is ALL WE NEED. The forum doesn't need to spin around RPG Makers anymore, because, quite frankly, everyone here but a few excedptions is full of it.
Want to revive the forums? Encourage people to do something new.
You there, Lucas, keep working in those sprites.
Mr.Mister, have you ever though about directing that anger of yours to something actually good to read? Rants are actually funny and I'm sure you'd do great in it.
Drenrin, your music was great to hear, try and make it more.
MT11, Razor, both your comics are just great on their own way, don't stop making those anytime soon.
Sai'Kar, stop being so damn serious. Go to Forum Gaming sometime, or the spam bin. You have only 38 FG posts, after all this time.
Warxe, you have great ideas for stories, why don't you try and write some of them down?
To anyone who might care, start a contest, there need to be no prize, just for fun. Anyone can go there and try to revive the Charas Magazine for one day or so.
Let's also change this place a bit. Make a subforum for talking about movies, so we don't have to put it all in All of All remove the smilies that aren't ever used EVER. Like this one :*: or _pumpkin_ or :smurf: or :cow: . I wouldn't mind changing the forum color to something more friendly, maybe a lighter blue.
People who can draw, draw, and not only themselves. Try and draw other Charas members, or take requests. Everyone loves requests.
We need to stop just thinking of how this place is horrible, it's not.
There *IS* lots of things to do here, we just have to get on our feet and actually do it. Who's with me?
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Harvey, those words were very harsh ya know. I know you've gone a little "I hate life" on us and all, but come on. Moose is right about the kijuki ban, we argued/debated or whatever about it and left it as that because he wasn't bothering anyone. But YOU were suppose to ban his other accounts, and we (me, you and possibly moose) spoke about this. And you said you did it. No offense Kiju, happy you're back. So please don't try to push that on razor and moose. You didn't do your job.
And charas started "dying" out around the time alex was barely here which was a little before he made you admin. Can't really complain much.. everyone talks about "community spirit" and so on.. but no matter how much you or anyone tries to force everyone together it wont change the fact that people get... BORED. Rev is right, that's the problem. Boredom. Talking to the same people all the time, about the same things. It gets old. And hopefully with the updated charas, it will attract more people.
Different kinds of people. We all have something in common. We're attracted to shiny things.. *ooog XD* And hopefully a few of the older members will stop bitchin to the newbies and give them a chance to grow up. So that way the site will stop "dying" And to hear everyone bitch and complain... it gets fuckin old after a while. Real old. It's the same thing every time. Someone decides to leave, cause the site and members are "lame" or whatever. Then everyone gets offended and says harsh things to one another and it gets bigger and bigger.
And what's fucked up about it is that if the mods get in the middle, we're bad either way. Lock it, and we're power-hungry whores who need to be replaced. Leave it open, and we're stupidass-slackers who need to be replaced. Either way it's always the staff who gets blamed first. That needs to stop. There are too many people being too demanding on how we should act. As for the replacements. Whose really good enough to deal with the pressure..? You know how many times over the years I've been here, even before I got modded, that I've sat and listened to that same old converstation?
Almost every other night. Going through list of names and personalities and so on. There have been some bad choices, there are always going to be some bad choices. But lemmie use someone else's words... we're at the bottom of the barrel right now. There really is no one to use as replacements basically. And the mods we have now from what I've seen haven't overdone their jobs. But there really isn't that much activity to overdo their jobs.
But I must admit, I loved the drama as much as harvey did. It kept me interested for a little while. Maybe ya'll should just grow up a little and try and be helpful by offering suggestions that are HELPFUL not saying "WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING CHARAS IS DYING!!!!" and other kinds of bitchin.
And harvey, stop with the comments. If you really hate this place that much, there is a logout button. Use it. As much as I get pissed with the way people act, with the way I, myself act I'm at least trying to see how things end. And I am trying to help. You left. You decided to resign. There really isn't much holding you here except the need to be a sarcastic brat. Yes, as much as I love ya *** you need to stop. Grow up. Stop taking all the life and charas things to heart and just let it go. All this **** is getting old. If you ain't gonna talk to your friends about it then stop bringing it to the forums. Use your damn journal.
Oh sorry for saying all that moose, couldn't help it.. :| *sigh*
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Charas is an RPG Maker forum. Always has been. We can't just say "hell, let's not be an RPG Maker forum any more!". Otherwise we're the same as every other dysfunctional game-related social forum on the internet. And they don't work.
Sadly, the case is that we need more RPG Maker stuff, and people don't really use RPG Maker any more. Not for RPG Making anyway. I dabble in it from time to time, but usually to make other types of games that aren't RPGs.
EDIT: There's an idea. How about more support for non-RPG games in RPG Maker? Tutorials, resources, etc. wouldn't go amiss.
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We could focus more on games in general, including RPGs. We'd attract a much larger crowd.
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Originally posted by Dragonium
Charas is an RPG Maker forum. Always has been. We can't just say "hell, let's not be an RPG Maker forum any more!". Otherwise we're the same as every other dysfunctional game-related social forum on the internet. And they don't work.
Sadly, the case is that we need more RPG Maker stuff, and people don't really use RPG Maker any more. Not for RPG Making anyway. I dabble in it from time to time, but usually to make other types of games that aren't RPGs.
EDIT: There's an idea. How about more support for non-RPG games in RPG Maker? Tutorials, resources, etc. wouldn't go amiss.
How about we stop being a forum ONLY for RPG Maker and becoma a forum in general which just happens to support RPG Maker?
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We could support Game Maker and any other sort of "Maker" that comes out. Wasn't there one some random dude posted that was going to be freeware and was a Platform Game Maker?
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OH Y HALO THAR IMPORTANT PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH ME.
DONT LOCK THREAD PLEASE.
Okay well, FIRST OFF. TOO ANYONE WHO SAYS "R U LEAVIN OR WUT?" AFTER I POST THIS, shutup. This is way too big to just leave. Yes I am leaving, but I shall do so when this thread dies.
Jesus Christ people, I go to sleep and I wake up with the pages tripled. Party at the gym was great, thanks for asking. For once I laughed at Kijuki. I don't hate him, I just think he should learn to LAUGH AT HIMSELF and not always throw his guard up when his name is mentioned.
But I don't like him, that I don't. :flower:
That Carrionmarksman + MrMr response made me laugh. Seriously who the hell is that guy.
By the way, to Drenrin, you hush, because obviously I'm not the only person who thinks all of this. The majority here are bland and all fall into 3 categories which I stated previously. Making a big deal about? It's my thread, lol. I posted the reasons I'm leaving. If you guys wanted to make it a big deal, you were free to do so, and you did. Now look at it.
I think the mod team is fine. They do their part just fine. Maybe with a stick up their *** at times, but for the most part they do a good job. One thing I don't like is how this is blamed on them. They have nothing to do with it. It's the COMMUNITY ITSELF.
While some people want to push it on the mods, I say its the community. Its the website itself. You can really do some cool things with 3.0 and if you don't then you'll have the same problems. No one is really interested in RPG making like they were when the site began.
By the way, I'm totally not Mrmr.
We could focus more on games in general, including RPGs. We'd attract a much larger crowd.
Isn't that what I said and I got yelled at for. So what now you agree that we need a better community?
You guys confuse me.
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Originally Posted by drenrin2120
We could support Game Maker and any other sort of "Maker" that comes out. Wasn't there one some random dude posted that was going to be freeware and was a Platform Game Maker?
I think that program was called Sketchit or Sketchup or something.
We could try to add resource section of this site that doesn't exactly pertain to RPG Maker. I remember seeing a few sites with both general sprite sheets as well as RM stuff, like Spriteaholic and RPG Icon.
Originally Posted by Dragonium
There's an idea. How about more support for non-RPG games in RPG Maker? Tutorials, resources, etc. wouldn't go amiss.
That is a good idea. What kind of games can be made though? RPG Maker is mostly for RPGs and ABSs.
Maybe we could ask around other communities to help make "Templates" for stuff like Fighting Games and Platformers. I remember playing a nice Mario styled platformer by a guy named Ineluki from the German Community. Like, Dragonblaze's customizable CBS...maybe we can make a resource section for something like that.
I'm borrowing this thread. Feel free to ditch.
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You obviously missed my point pretty bad rev. I never yelled at you because I thought devoting the forum to things other than RPGMaker was a bad idea.
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Oh rev, dun leave. You're actually one of my favorites! *clingie* Come back.
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Originally posted by Revolution911
We could focus more on games in general, including RPGs. We'd attract a much larger crowd.
Isn't that what I said and I got yelled at for. So what now you agree that we need a better community?
You guys confuse me. [/B]
No, we yelled at you because you complained and presented no solution at all.
There's a diference beetwen "THIS PLACE SUCKS" and "I have an idea of how to make this place better."
But really, this place could indeed use a buffer.
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Ok I don't know how a simple leaving thread could turn into six pages (and probably more over time) of some spam, a few walls of text and a lot of arguing. I would think that it is his decision and a "farewell" or "goodbye" would suffice rather than debating it.
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Originally posted by Darkfox
Ok I don't know how a simple leaving thread could turn into six pages (and probably more over time) of some spam, a few walls of text and a lot of arguing. I would think that it is his decision and a "farewell" or "goodbye" would suffice rather than debating it.
Because people dying of an new dicease is perfectly cool and we don't have to find a way to stop that dicease.
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Anyone who makes sense and doesn't misspell "disease" could maybe rectify an answer?
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Originally posted by Darkfox
Anyone who makes sense and doesn't misspell "disease" could maybe rectify an answer?
If member are leaving, means we have a problem, as such, we have to solve that problem.
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Members leave but they also tend to come back. In any case words alone, no matter how many you put in, are not enough to solve a problem. And certainly must not boil down to using a single or a few members as a scapegoat.
But as I have said members do leave but they have the tendency to pop back up. I've seen it numerous times already, this one is no different.
Edit: Why do I get this faint hint of Chicken Little?
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Fap fap fap fap fap fap fap
Seriously, six pages, what the hell?
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i suck
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i mean i pwn
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You pwn at sucking.
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
You pwn at sucking.
I am, Bill S. Preston Esquire.. and this is Ted 'Theodore' Logan.. and we are.. Wyld Stallions!
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:O
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I have no Idea where this is even going anymore.
but I'm liking it.
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Wait wait, how did Saikar turned into an antagonist for a post?
And I am not doing a good job at behaving? Seriously, what i've been posting is what everyone else has posted at some point. Besides this post, I have not, AT ALL, brought up anything that Kijuki_Magazaki was arguing for, and as far as I know that was a high sin for making one fight too many. So if there where a reason for banning, then it should be because of a double account, not because of bad behaviour, cause that's bull ****.
And if you are talking about unmod, then I feel pitty.
And no Razor is not an accomplice. Nor was I blaming him. I was just trying to state how and even why I came here.
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dun even worry about it..
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Wait wait, how did Saikar turned into an antagonist for a post?
Turn, not turned. Seriously, nobody on Charas seems to be able to get this right. Sort it out, Charas.
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
And no Razor is not an accomplice. Nor was I blaming him. I was just trying to state how and even why I came here.
Are you saying Razor is innocent? Because Razor is definetely not innocent.
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Originally posted by Dragonium
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Wait wait, how did Saikar turned into an antagonist for a post?
Turn, not turned. Seriously, nobody on Charas seems to be able to get this right. Sort it out, Charas.
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
And no Razor is not an accomplice. Nor was I blaming him. I was just trying to state how and even why I came here.
Are you saying Razor is innocent? Because Razor is definetely not innocent.[/B]
Sorry my online grammar and spelling has long failed me so yes I suck.
And not recurring his innocense or anything, but usually I don't like having someone looking like my shield.
But really, since I dont really want to get re-banned, i am gonna divert my attention to some other thread.
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Hey, good shields are hard to find. Make the most of Razor while he's still usable.
Anyway, in order to get this thread back on topic, goodbye Rev. We'll miss you.
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Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
Wait wait, how did Saikar turned into an antagonist for a post?
Maybe it was a really good post? :dry:
Hello, guys! Years of you saying you didn't like my ideas. One post almost six months after I resigned saying I don't like some of yours, and you tell me to log out and go away? That's weak and you know it.
But no. The mods are using the fallback of "it's an community effort to save Charas!" but that's a bit dry because I know better. I know that there are things they could do. They can't change things entirely by themselves, but they can encourage change, and they're just not. It's easier to blame people like me because I'm posting. Because eventually this thread will die and they can continue safely ignoring things.
Really, in shooting to help Charas, my aim is not so poor as to hit the mods. I was hoping to make other people more concerned about how things are going, and I think I have. So it's cool, I'm done here. We'll talk more about this later, okay?
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I agree with Sai.
I'm tired and I don't feel like constructing my own arguments any more, so I'll just follow Sai. Don't complain at me, complain at him.
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Originally posted by Darkfox
Anyone who makes sense and doesn't misspell "disease" could maybe rectify an answer?
Because Grandy's first language is English. Oh wait.
Originally posted by Dragonium
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
And no Razor is not an accomplice. Nor was I blaming him. I was just trying to state how and even why I came here.
Are you saying Razor is innocent? Because Razor is definetely not innocent.[/B]
What the Hell are you even talking about anymore? You make it sound like I planned everything from the start. Whatever "everything" is.
Originally posted by SaiKar
Hello, guys! Years of you saying you didn't like my ideas. One post almost six months after I resigned saying I don't like some of yours, and you tell me to log out and go away? That's weak and you know it.
But no. The mods are using the fallback of "it's an community effort to save Charas!" but that's a bit dry because I know better. I know that there are things they could do. They can't change things entirely by themselves, but they can encourage change, and they're just not. It's easier to blame people like me because I'm posting. Because eventually this thread will die and they can continue safely ignoring things.
Really, in shooting to help Charas, my aim is not so poor as to hit the mods. I was hoping to make other people more concerned about how things are going, and I think I have. So it's cool, I'm done here. We'll talk more about this later, okay?
What I find is the ultimate irony is that I supported absolutely everything you did, from start till end, and even after that.
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Originally posted by Razor
Originally posted by Dragonium
Originally posted by HackersTotalMassLaser
And no Razor is not an accomplice. Nor was I blaming him. I was just trying to state how and even why I came here.
Are you saying Razor is innocent? Because Razor is definetely not innocent.[/B]
What the Hell are you even talking about anymore? You make it sound like I planned everything from the start. Whatever "everything is".[/B]
I didn't say you were not innocent of stuff related to this thread. I just said that your overall status in life is towards the Not Innocent side of the Innocence Guage.
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What the Hell ARE you talking about anymore?
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Shut up. It's 00:32 here and I'm too tired to think any more.
I'm going to bed now. I will participate if this thread is still alive in the morning.
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Heres an idea. Give me powuh. That'll solve things.
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I'm sorry Razor. You really are just in the crossfire. It's the people that that reacted more harshly to my first post that are being addressed here.
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This whole thing is silly.
Let rev leave.
Let Mister Mister come back and tell us how retarded the staff is.
Let the Others quip.
How come every "Im leaving" thread turns into a Charassux thread... or a pro/cons of 3.0 thread. If you dont like the community, leave.
I know that this dosent mean much coming from me...And I know that some of you dont hold my opinion in any regard whatsoever...but seriously, shut up
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Originally posted by gemini
This whole thing is silly.
Let rev leave.
Let Mister Mister come back and tell us how retarded the staff is.
Let the Others quip.
How come every "Im leaving" thread turns into a Charassux thread... or a pro/cons of 3.0 thread. If you dont like the community, leave.
I know that this dosent mean much coming from me...And I know that some of you dont hold my opinion in any regard whatsoever...but seriously, shut up
HA! ...HA! ....
I can't find flaws in your post. =(
Appart the fact that I know why every "I'm leaving" thread turns into a Charassux thread: It's because invariably people who are leaving complain about why they are leaving, and then try and say that they don't care anymore, and then when we say okay, we don't care that you care anymore, the people go all "AND THAT'S WHY I'M LEAVING!"
It's like talking to a woman on her period, really.
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Charas IS a bloody blue period.
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Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
Charas IS a bloody blue period.
You meant that Charas "is bloody blue, period", or that it is "a bloody blue period" like as in a period that just happens to have fallen into a jar with blue alien blood?
Oh, wait, I got it.
You meant is like a period a woman has and which is bloody, which is english to "really fuckin'" and blue because it's blue. Did I get it right?
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No, it's a period, but instead of red blood, it's blue.
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all i have to say is this:
i am Vladimir Shadeu, and quite new to the site.
when i saw this place, the first thing i saw was the charset generator. that and that alone sent me looking for completes. then i saw them here. then i made myself known as the wacko i am and i love this place.
you just don't get it, just use this place, man. people care for you, wheter you care back or not. people begin to sort of know people. this site is no can in the street it is more like a home, it has all you need, and a couple friends to boot.so, just give it a chance, for good ol' times sake. remember? i don't, i wasn't there, but do YOU remember? [GLOW]null[/GLOW]
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a period can't be blue.
HA! ...HA! ....
I can't find flaws in your post. =(
how about him making it impossible for me to just Ctrl+F for 'mrmister' and not have to sift through mountains of melodramatic bullshit
:jest: :firefox: *spamlas*
^^ vladster, i remember good members that all left
which basically ruins your shit
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You want bad? Go to VGMusic: the only place where a dying person can get brutally flamed and exiled from the community, on the basis that she's dying!
(true story: happened to someone I knew, and made me sick).
My point is, though I'm somewhat new, this place isn't all that bad. The staff is actually respectful to some extent, and there's not as many doucherockets running around here as there were/are at other forums I've been to/am at. I agree with Gemini:
This whole thing is silly.
Let rev leave.
Let Mister Mister come back and tell us how retarded the staff is.
Let the Others quip.
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I like you. ^
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I like'em too.
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Umm, I would say me too but I don't see his posts too often. :blush:
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I do :P
(spelling errors due to tiredness)
But yeah. Just try to comprimise with eachother and if people want to go, let them go.
:hi:
Bye Bye Whiny Members
If you think that's harsh, I've dealt with this stuff before and sometimes it's the only way to solve the problem.
And the best advice ever given to me:
"If you don't like it, GTFO and don't come back"
So now that i've read this which has turned into the same
"goodbye/youallsuck/thissitesucks/randomimmatureness/flaming/completerandom conversations" thread that I've seen clones of for the last three years,
Hopefully whoever wants to leave makes up their mind and stops whining.
We all came here to operate under the Admins rules, they try hard and it is very difficult to run a forum with this many members.
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I'd type more but It's time for a break.
If anyone agrees with me, shout!
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i like it when dying people spend their last days on VGmusic
edit: if you've ever posted on vgmusic your life probably isn't worth living
im the ultimate troll wehehe
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GASP~! ANTI-VGM~~~~! BANZ~!
The only reason she posted there was b/c she had friends there (or thought she did). ANYWAYS...
edit: if you've ever posted on vgmusic your life probably isn't worth living
excluding a few ppl *coughcrunkmancough*, hit teh nail on teh head.
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I like YOU Mid.
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I like you too... << >> o.o;;
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omg, MrMister posted! :o
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Nine pages? Why is this thread still alive?
**** I'm contributing...
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MEH, I THOUGHT THIS SIGHT WAS MORE OR SO A RPG MAKER BOARD WHEN GHOSTCLOWN AND CARMEN WERE MODS.
Meh, i thought this site was more or so a rpg maker board when Ghostclown and Carmen were mods.
*Edit sorry for the Capital Letters and Homonym.
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Originally posted by Black Massacre
MEH, I THOUGHT THIS SIGHT WAS MORE OR SO A RPG MAKER BOARD WHEN GHOSTCLOWN AND CARMEN WERE MODS.
And boy, what a sight it is now.